Would you support the CSA if we rose up against the eternal y*Nk again?

The normie southerners will rise once the military officers do.
The main concern would be shaping the new nation to be a model society. The model society is democratic at a local level while being arisocratic/military dominated at the national level. Democracy can't function with high populations

>Canadian military
Bring the whole commonwealth. We're fighting a damn juggernaut.

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Imagine your comrades singing this around a fire to drown out the sounds of artillery while surrounded by yankee corpses.
youtu.be/2uXbM3o2dGQ

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Southerners are ANGLOS. Not filthy g*Rmanics like in your pic.

We are an Anglo Saxon country
I move that we put Hengist and Horsa on our seal, which is what Jefferson wanted to be put on the USA seal

Join the South and we will start the QT azn boi breeding camps. They will be the new slaves.

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Basado.

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Union banter is better, but yes I would support the CSA
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Can’t wait to flashburn you lads until nothing is left but burning marshes and charred hicks.

Anglos are Germanic tho.

Born in New York, I'm a proud yankee volunteer.

Kek, americucks would be too afraid of hurting their (Israel's) industry and minorities to bomb us.

Could you please give me a tl;dr on the civil war? What were the reasons for the conflict?

Good guys in grey, bad guys in blue.
The bad guys unfortunately won and now we have to take their shit. This flag is not mine.

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Of course, the Irish brigade would need fresh troops

stfu dixiemutt. You are a people of nationwreckers

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>some states (southern ones) have slavery, others (northern ones ) don't
>new states are added to the Union
>south states push to allow slavery in these new states
>north states want no slavery in the new states, also want to abolish slavery in the southern states
>southern elites see this as disrespecting the right of states to determine their own laws and also as a threat to their slave-based economy
>go to war
>industrialized north has better weapons and more soldiers
>north wins
>south remains eternally butthurt under the yoke of the yankee

Then let us out if you don't want us. This god forsaken union needs to break apart.

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Ideal map of the states.

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yes of course!
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>Literally just watched that video
Based Portuguese. Honorary Dixie.

Retarded LARPers the bunch of you

>America becomes independent
>The 13 new states have irreconcilable differences, the most apparent being slavery; they agree to a national document before the Constitution, called the Articles of Confederation
>Under the Articles the Federal Government has only two powers, the ability to declare war and raise an army, the latter the states have to power to do also, but nothing beyond that. Not even the power to raise taxes or tariffs or event to set up a national currency. The government is made up of just a Congress, which consisted of a Senate with one senator per state, there was no President, House of Representatives, neither was there a Supreme Court.
>States have an extreme amount of autonomy. They set up tariffs against other states, create their own currency and army, pretty much independent except they cannot issue war declarations
>This causes a problem, there is a large amount of debt the Federal Government had amassed from the Revolutionary War with Britain. It was spent on creating a navy and an army, setting up international embassies, et cetera. Veterans from the war received pensions and since Congress couldn't raise revenue except through gifts from the states, they went into heavy debt.
>Smaller states also went into debt paying their veterans from the Revolutionary War and also from the fact that they were so small as far as population goes and the bigger states placed giant tariffs on their products, causing about half of the states to go into debt.
>Eventually only Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, and Massachusetts are happy with the Articles and their current situation, in being the largest in population.
>Congress, the sole national government, is unhappy with the current arrangements too and decide to hold a secret meeting, now called the Constitutional Convention, but wasn't called that at the time, to create potential edits to the Articles and try to sway the states to approve of them.
cont.

The Yankee devils are not nearly small enough.
4/10

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thanks partner

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they can't win in victoria 2

YES

they will rise again in HoI4 later this month

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>Not posting the greater CSA

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So the topic of slavery was "merely" the casus belli? There must've been more dynamics involved.
As in, the assassination Ferndinand didnt cause WW1

North-cucks will say it was about slavery. It was about the tyrant Lincoln setting the stage for America to become the tyrant police state it is now.

why do people talk about this incident like it was a major war crime when literally nobody was harmed?

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There was a political balance of slave vs. free states before the west opened up.

But yes it was basically just about centralization of power and the issue that sparked it could've been anything. These civil wars happened all across the globe, the American one is mainly notable because most historians consider it the first modern war because of the technologies they used - railroads, telegraphs, ironclad ships etc.

absolutely

Based Putin.

>Many famous people attend the Constitutional Convention, such as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, and many others unmentioned.
>They decide to screw and scrap the Articles altogether, and make a new document.
>Three main issues arise in the Convention, the issue over how powerful the government should be, the anger between small states and large states, and the animosity between slave (southern) and free (northern) states
>The first and the second sort of bled into one and other, and these two the attendees focused most of their time on, various plans were proposed to fix these two issues (the Virginia Plan, the New Jersey Plan, the Hamilton Plan, the Pinckney Plan, but most importantly the Connecticut Plan, which was the one they eventually went with)
>the smaller states and the larger states were happy, and everyone agreed, except for two or three radical anarchists, with the power they allotted to the Federal Government
>After many months and even years of arguing over that, they finally needed to look at slavery
>The first issue was since the Connecticut Plan, which was now how the body of the Federal Government would look like, said the House of Representatives would have its members elected from first-past-the-posts seats which were allotted to the states through the Federal Census, which is given every 10 years. Furthermore, according to the Connecticut Plan, the Electoral College will be and is based off of the amount of representation in Congress, and if you got more seats in the House of Representatives, you got more electoral votes. The issue was whether slaves should be counted as people or not. If they were to be counted as people this would give the slave states far more seats in the House of Representatives, vice versa if they weren't. Naturally, the free states were against this proposal of counting them as people, and the slave states were for it.
Cont.

based and gaypilled

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But what about naval forces?
Start up USS Texas and sail to Norfolk to blow up everything?

>Southern states have economies built around slavery
>Southern states join union under the pretense that slavery would be protected
>Republican Party gets elected, which saw I self as enlightened (it was reddit as fuck) and had a large abolitionist faction
>Southern states secede because of this

>Eventually they decided on a compromise, called the 3/5ths Compromise, where for every five slaves counted, three would be put into the formula for the allocation of seats in the House of Representatives.
>The free and slave states agreed to this; since it would give the South a boost in seats and electoral votes enough so the free and slave states were practically equal in the House of Representatives and the Electoral College
>The next issue was over the importation of slaves, the Slave Trade
>All Northerners wanted the Slave Trade to end, believing it that it would fill up the South with slaves, who would eventually rebel, and then flood into the free states
>The South was divided over the issue, about half of them wanted it to continue indefinitely, while the other half wanted it to end, to either increase the value of slaves and therefore their wealth, or if they shared the same fears as the North.
>Eventually they agreed the Slave Trade should end, but thought that ending it then would be too much of a shock for the slave states and cause them not to back the Constitution, so they agreed to protect the slave trade, legally, for 20 years after ratification, so until 1808.
>There was some argument over what should happen after those 20 years were up, the North wanted it to be immediately banned, whereas the South wanted Congress to decide
>The South won on that argument since they threatened to walk out and abandon the Constitution if it were to be banned after the 20 years, saying that the new country needed the openness in case something changed.
>Lastly, the last issue which they deliberated on was the issue of slaves escaping and fleeing to the free states, only this time it was extremely easy for the South to convince the North that they should be considered fugitive slaves and not be given manumission upon entrance to the North, considering the North wanted nothing to do with Negros.
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Lincoln got elected. South chimped out and seceded. Proceeds to attack Union fort almost immediately. Gets ass handed to them in long run.

Fck yeahhh

>With the most pressing issues in terms of slavery were fixed and the issue over how powerful the Federal Government should be and the animosity between the small and large states quenched practically forever, although it still bubbles up ever now then, the Constitution was easily ratified in 1788, after being drafted and proposed in 1787.
>On the Westward territory, that being everything east of the Mississippi River minus Louisiana a discussion ensued in Congress over how those territories would become states and the legality of slavery therein.
>Eventually they decided the Ohio River would be the line between the slave and free states, everything north of that river would be free, whereas everything South would be slave. This was decided in 1789
>The slavery debate seemed to have ended there, from 1789 to 1820 it was dormant, excepting a national ban on the slave trade which was passed practically unanimously in 1808, the first year in which it was constitutionally legal to do so
>By 1820 the South had seen their share of the Electoral College and the House of Representatives plummet. This was due to a giant population boom in the North from an immigration wave from England and Germany, which were attracted to the North due to a quickly industrializing New England and New York, and the fertile lands of the Midwest, which were given out to immigrants and settlers from the Eastern states for free. Also from a much more prominent religious fervor, where it was normal for women to have 15+ children in the North, which cased the North's population to boom compared to the gradual growing South.
>Coincidentally, at the time there was an equal amount of free an slave states, which gave both sides a perfectly equal amount of representation in the Senate, which meant in order for a bill to pass the Senate, which was necessary in order for it to become law, it needed support from both Northerners and Southerners, and neither could be ignored.
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Yes.
Reminder that Lincoln was a literal tyrant-king who owned both the judicial and legislative branch and used them to prosecute those who tried to oppose him. He even suspended habeas corpus which is about as much of a tyrant you can be

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To make the south seem worse than they actually were

>This prompted the Missouri Compromise, which declared that in order for a free territory to become a state, it must have a slave territory paring which would also become a state at the same time, and vice versa. In order to keep that balance in the Senate.
>Furthermore, it also established 36°30 parallel as the line between the free states and the slave states, since at the time the Mexican-American War hadn't happened yet and neither did the Texan Revolution, very little non-state territory lied on either side of that line.
>Furthermore, it also granted Missouri statehood as a slave state, as an exemption to the line I mentioned before, and gave it Maine, which was formerly apart of Massachusetts, as a free state paring. This was decided in 1820
>Once again the slavery debate fell dormant, but another issue stifled the nation, the tariff debate

Before I get into the Tariff Debate and the Nullification Crisis I just realized I neglected to mention the War of 1812, which had little effect on slavery, but a huge one on the Civil War. There, the South, the Mid-Atlantic states (save New Jersey), and the Midwest was ardently for the war, and voted in near unanimously for it, meanwhile, the New England representatives and senators voted nearly unanimously against it, while the Declaration of War did pass, it received little to no support from New England. New England, feeling as if their voice doesn't matter, New English representatives convened at a convention in Hartford, Connecticut, called the Hartford Convention. There, the struggling Federalist party, which had pretty much been confined to New England at that point, made a strong showing. There, they voiced strong support for independence for New England, and that was apart of their proposed resolution which came out of that convention. By that time, in 1814, the war ended shortly thereafter the resolution of the Convention, but nonetheless it legitimized succession.

Cont.

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yes

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>Andrew Jackson becomes president in 1829, along with him a protectionist Northern Congress
>Congress passes higher tariffs, which angers the South
>The North and the South were divided over tariffs because of the South's lack of diversity in their economy and the North's diversity. In the South, the entire economy was based off of tobacco, cotton, indigo, and rice plantation cultivation, because of this, the South needed to import in order to get their most basic their most basic goods and tariffs raised the prices of those said goods, angering them. Meanwhile in the North, their economy was rapidly industrializing. Local farmers produced grain, wheat, milk, corn, apples, mutton, and beef and sold those goods for low prices making the North self-reliant for their food source, alas since there was more money to be made in the industrial sector, the farming sector in the North only grew as the population of the North grew, they couldn't send their goods South because they'd spoil and because as priory mentioned, there was more money in industry. Meanwhile Northern farmers and miners there also produced wool, iron, and coal for their industry while that industry also in took cotton, tobacco, and dyes from the South to make into manufactured goods, making tariffs a reasonable choice economically for the North.
>Jackson signed this law and it went into effect, South Carolina, the hardest hit state in this mess, nullified this law.
>Nullification is when a state nullifies a federal law, it is hinted in the Constitution that this is allowed as it is hinted that the Supreme Court has the right of judicial review, meaning they may review laws passed by Congress and signed by the president as well as laws passed by the states and determine if they're constitutional or not. If they are not Constitutional, the Supreme Court throws out the law. Nullification is extremely controversial when tried, as it had been only tried twice before
cont.

>The two times it was tried, when Kentucky and Virginia nullified the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1799 was met with popular response from the general public, but nonetheless caused a crisis, a crisis which would only be solved when Jefferson became president in 1801 and worked with his Congress to repeal the law on a federal level, therefore ending that crisis. When a state nullifies a law, it means the state government and all the governments under them (the county government and the municipal government) do not enforce the law and the judges in that state do not recognize it, making it quasi-legal to avoid those tariffs.
>Once South Carolina nullified the tariffs, President Jackson threatened to send in the federal military to invade South Carolina, and also declared South Carolina to be in open rebellion when they declined his request to stop nullifying the law.
>Eventually Congress acts and compromises on the tariffs, lowering them pleasing South Carolina enough so they stop nullifying the tariffs, ending the Nullification Crisis in 1833. Alas, the free trade-protectionism debate between the North and the South never ends until the Civil War, albeit the Nullification Crisis was the height of that debate.
>Meanwhile, in 1835, Texas declares independence from Mexico in the Texan Revolution. In 1836 Mexico is beaten back by volunteers from America and the Texan military. Texas becomes independent, this will be important a little later.
>In 1836 the slavery debate resurfaced, especially within Congress. Bills from Northern representatives which banned or limited slavery never passed, but they were annoying and inflammatory nonetheless. So, in 1836, the House of Representatives passed a gag rule which banned any proposal to ban or impede slavery in any state in the House of Representatives. This soothed abolitionism a little bit, but also angered Northern radicals a little bit too.
>In 1845, Texas petitions the Congress for statehood.
Cont.
cont.

>i don't like this, therefore ((()))

Is anyone reading these? I'll stop if no-one is

>dicksie honestly thinks the issue is with yanks and not the feds

honestly southerners are cancer and suggesting that the south is somehow superior is autistic as fuck

I was but its ok if you want to stop

yeah just so I wouldn't have to deal with you fags anymore