American city planners are so afraid of walkable cities and probably more than 90% of the US, you need a car to get around. There are literally no benefits to it but there are tons of benefits to a walkable town.
Is there a reason for American city designs being so awful?
weak bait. this country is made by the people for the people. they do what they like via voting and checks and balances. if most people saw the benefits they would make that happen. your opinion doesn't count, sorry.
Ryder Richardson
American city planners have had wet dreams about walkable cities for at least 40 years. It's not so easy to fix the damage that has been done in the inner ring suburbs, and it's not so easy to compete with the economics of cookie cutter houses in the exurbs.
David Clark
Here's your you
Colton Price
>Is there a reason for American city designs being so awful? Oil and car companies will fund your reelection.
Juan Cruz
How is it bait? But what caused the suburbs in the first place? Whose idea was it to say "spread the buildings out so you need a car."
Michael Sanchez
then why don't they make a new city, as an experiment
Brody Baker
Because if they make them spread out, you buy a car and gas.
Ethan Morris
>muh illluminati but most conspiracy theories claim that a tiny percentage of billionaires control everything. so they would just re-invest into public transport instead of the automobile industry.
Alexander Harris
It happened organically. Developers bought up land outside the cities and sold cheap homes to people fleeing the inner cities. Nobody thought ahead. The developers were trying to make money, and the people buying the houses wanted cheap houses and more space than they would have in a walkable city.
The same dynamic still drives development that is going on today, although new things built within the city tend to try to be 'walkable'
William Butler
But the only people who care about that are car and oil companies. The city planners, mayor, etc. don't care about that. They care about making a good town.
Hunter Bell
but nobody wants to live in the cities. most people older than 30 prefer suburbs. nothing can compete with your own home. who wants to live in commie blocks??
Nathan Thompson
The mayors of the central cities did not control what happened outside their borders.
Michael White
What do you mean? I'm talking about the mayor of each city, town, etc. Not just of one town.
Nicholas Martin
I know this gets said a lot around here but “the Jews did it”
Anthony Rogers
yeah the 'only' people who care about that are millions of happy middle class/upper middle class homeowners. while poor fags/liberals/trannies flock to cities. to each her own. nothing to argue about. live where you want as long as you are happy and stop forcing your shitty agenda on others.
Jaxson Cooper
It's not an agenda. There are so many benefits to walkable cities that there's no point in having a driving city. So I don't get it.
Grayson Wilson
Not all suburbs were incorporated as a city first before the development was built. And I imagine the authorities in small towns didn't have a lot of power to shape the way things developed. Likely they didn't care either, back in the 50s or 60s
Austin Evans
Is there a reason why conservatives prefer the suburbs and liberals prefer the city?
Asher King
>But what caused the suburbs in the first place? unironically boomers. We can't all live in our cities centre
Alexander Young
You don't get why a lot of people do not want to live in a city, walkable or not?
Adrian Ward
I like public transportationsystems especially railways. Living in the society with good public transportation systems would free you from burden to maintain your own vehicls.
Carson Edwards
go back to europe
Anthony Martinez
The auto industry Suburbs are "conservative" because they're full of greedy middle class people who want low taxes. Cities are "liberal" because they're full of greedy lower class people who want welfare
It's a lot more complicated than that, especially with most of the suburbs flipping Democratic in the last election, but that's the gist of it
Landon Thompson
liberals are poor and faggoty and they like noise and 'things to do' and being around each other. conservatives are intellectuals and they have deep interests and hobbies so they need a house and a private piece of land to engage in their intellectual activities. most inventors and scientists lived in the suburbs for that reason. but we love our cars. driving is fun.
Brody Cruz
I'm not talking a "city" in the urban sense. I'm talking about walkability, even if it's a small town of a few thousand people.
Dylan Moore
Do you envision combing walkability with living in your own single family home? Sounds mutually exclusive. Walkability requires high population density that is only feasible in the urban areas.
Liam Perry
>Walkability requires high population density that is only feasible in the urban areas. Japan seems to do it fine. All of their small towns and rural areas are walkable.
>Walkability requires high population density that is only feasible in the urban areas. Define high population density? In Europe from villages through towns, all the way to the capital cities are all perfectly walkable.
>All of their small towns and rural areas are walkable. lmao
Alexander Evans
You don't deserve a choice, you fucking parasite.
Liam Evans
They aren't? Do all the people in small towns own cars then?
Christian Richardson
Hungary is also the size of a typical state. It's just a bit smaller than the US as a whole.
Charles Sanders
I agree. Murica also taught my cunt "CAR ARE EVERYTHING PLZ BUY FORD" and it stuck now sidewalks are either non existent or fucked
There's a group here named MADAFAKAS who lobby for better sidewalks and walkable cities, and parks, etc
Gabriel Howard
Are you mad right now little buddy?
David Hall
Driving to and from work isn't fun
Hunter Nelson
N-no...
Brody Perez
Their cars are small as fuck too. Cars over here are pickups and SUVs for convenience. I also noticed this in the United States.
Japan also loves box type cars. Ugly as hell.
Isaac Edwards
americans on a fundamental level, literally, don't believe in society
Liam Howard
Yeah, it is fun driving in 2 hr traffic
Christopher Jackson
It seems like Americans with monies these days are going to the urban areas again. Else, all those gentrifications aren't happening.
I honestly think most Northeast big cities from Boston to DC will be fully gentrified and will become much more walkable. Hell, even Baltimore is slowly getting gentrified
Grayson Smith
t. Commie
Parker Rivera
There were some retard city planners from 1920-1950 that thought cars should take over and that really liked modernist thinkers le Corbusier. Also American whites don't want live by blacks and cars allow them to be separated.
american city planners didn't exist until like 2008
Levi Barnes
>There were some retard city planners from 1920-1950 that thought cars should take over
The American public already decided that with their pocketbooks. Car culture was firmly established during the 1920s.
Tyler Ward
>worst case assumptions in large metro areas there are trains / mass transit. maybe it is not as good as in europe but it is not the point. it is not like you always work within a walking distance even if you live in a walkable area. you still need to take public transport. and that is not too much fun either. some burger above is jealous of 'walkable japan'. he should try riding subway in tokyo.
Xavier Campbell
Car culture is a meme. City planners had a role in pushing it too.
Thomas Wood
nope, it only seems that way to you. just because you keep mentioning that doesn't mean it is true. i showed you the data with the urban/suburban/rural population trends last time but you didn't seem to know how to read it properly :D
Landon Scott
How is that a meme? What do you even mean by that.
Lincoln Ross
bro seriously who the fuck is paying you to post this shit. Not even the most vocal proponents of "democracy" actually believe voters have any serious power over how the country is run.
Eli Morales
Problem with that is gentrification of cities amounts to filling them with a million shitty hipster bars and cafes that don't actually produce anything, whereas pre-WWII, back before suburbanification, cities were industrial centers.
Samuel Bennett
i am on RT payroll. except the second post is not me. must be another sleeper agent.
Dylan Gomez
so what you're saying is murrifats want to be fat
Dominic Cox
Because I live in Oakland, California and would get mugged, robbed or jumped in broad daylight
Also: see Brazil
Christian Allen
that's your fault for living in little africa
Ethan Nelson
mugged by who? by the oalkand raiders? if you have a fucking nfl team, it can't be that bad.
William Ramirez
They tried that here by making the entire downtown a walking only area but fucked up so badly by deciding to also make all the stores open air while were in fucking Wisconsin. So after one year of all businesses shutting down they scrapped it. This year they finally got rid of the last brick walkway that became converted to a road. They're also trying again but without such a massive fuck up.
Isaiah Martin
Consumerism, gas consumption, car sales. Good for the economy, i guess, bad for people and the environment.
Ryan Ortiz
>Milennials want to kill the car industry!
Nathaniel Butler
Japan is smaller than California. They barely have space to do anything