What do the rest of the slavs think about the south slavs?

Austin Peterson
Austin Peterson

What do the rest of the slavs think about the south slavs?

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sms.zrc-sazu.si/Si/SMS4/Marjeta4.html
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stećak
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Jordan Nguyen
Jordan Nguyen

Nothing

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

Bulgarians not included

Benjamin Lee
Benjamin Lee

different flavors or serbs

Christopher Jackson
Christopher Jackson

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Luke Hall
Luke Hall

based ltalian saying it how it is

Jose Morgan
Jose Morgan

most people here just see south slavic countries as affordable vacation destinations. especially croatia and bulgaria.

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

They are stupid and turkish rapebabies.

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

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Nolan Wood
Nolan Wood

notice how the present day south slav is considered to be the tallest, has a warrior skull, big nose for more air intake and dark hair for adopting to med climate

Dominic Wood
Dominic Wood

took it from the byzantine Empire
What retard wrote this?
When we came there were already Avars here.

Gavin Thomas
Gavin Thomas

but east slavs look like aborted fetuses with fatal alcohol syndrome

Liam Diaz
Liam Diaz

between the fall of the roman empire and the settling of slavs, byzantine ruled the balkans, and then the slavs settled it and raided as far as the pelopones

Jose Cooper
Jose Cooper

When we came there were already Avars here.
only at the Northern parts.

Christopher Long
Christopher Long

why is that slav holding a lab flask though

Grayson Kelly
Grayson Kelly

they clearly didn't mean you, Nikola

Kayden Nguyen
Kayden Nguyen

we drink rakija from that

Mason Murphy
Mason Murphy

I may be wrong, but I think their's languages sound like Latvian, but in Latvian a Russian-speaking man can't understand a word (maybe except "how" in Latvian).

Bentley Martin
Bentley Martin

literally turked.com

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

Latvian
what

Ethan Green
Ethan Green

are romanians slav?

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

ROMAnians are not slavs

Josiah Taylor
Josiah Taylor

as much as germans are

Andrew Morales
Andrew Morales

no but they were strongly influenced by their slavic orthodox neighbours

Nathaniel Young
Nathaniel Young

not sure what this is supposed to mean since ossis are half slav and wessis aren't

Aaron Barnes
Aaron Barnes

e ossis are half slav and wessis aren't

Not only Ossis

Parker Sanders
Parker Sanders

South slavs have lower murder, abortion, suicide and HIV rate compared to Eastern slavs.
Even with less money, we are morally superior.

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Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

youtube.com/watch?v=6yO14lat2hg

youtube.com/watch?v=icD1gWsBWSM

Michael Torres
Michael Torres

Even with less money, we are morally superior.
Are you really poorer than them? Ukraine is the poorest cunt in Europe together with Moldova and I'd place Bulgaria a bit above Russia.

Evan Martin
Evan Martin

what you call "turkish" influence, is, in fact, influence from tribes south slavs absorbed back in the 7th century, like scythians, dacians, illyrians. ottoman empire didn't leave a significant genetic influence in the balkans. the "ottoman" army which attacked croatia was all bosnians and serbs, not actual turks.

John Gray
John Gray

ottoman empire didn't leave a significant genetic influence in the balkans

lol, maybe not on Slovenians, Croats and Albanbians but all others got Turked to various extent.

Kayden Morgan
Kayden Morgan

the absolute state of thia flag

Ryan Jackson
Ryan Jackson

Latvia is one of the Baltic States.

Lincoln Turner
Lincoln Turner

maybe culturally but genetically not even the turks got TURKd.

William Nguyen
William Nguyen

i know.
idk, that sounds closer to finnish than south slavic to me.

Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez

It has similiar phonetics to south slavic languages (except Bulgarian and maybe Macedonian).

1) long-short vowels with musical tones
2) rare patalisation

Daniel Hernandez
Daniel Hernandez

We are slightly poorer than Russia even after 12 years in the EU.
Ukraine and Moldova are buffer states that sadly will forever be fucked by Russia. It's not logical to compare to them.
South slavs are shit at the current economic game.

Brandon Martinez
Brandon Martinez

Not much at all. And when we do, we think of them as just "Balkans".

Poles were always against Panslavism, which itself is nowadays nothing but a meme.

Charles Reed
Charles Reed

proofs?

Matthew Davis
Matthew Davis

Okay, if you count only original half mongol tribes as Turks that's probably correct. But if you count in all the Anatolian-Kurdish-Gipsy-Caucasian-mongrels we know today as Turks then I'm pretty sure there is plenty of their DNA spread all over Bulgaria, (southern) Serbia and Greece .

South Slavic languages are much closer to Russian than Latvian. There might be some weak similarities between Lithuanian and some archaic dialects like Chakavian but even then other slavic languages (Ukrainian, Russisn etc. are closer than Baltic languages):

see this, I'm sure slavs of any kind will understand many words:

youtube.com/watch?v=ghmxcnIM4TU

youtube.com/watch?v=BzXA67QWQU0

Connor Lee
Connor Lee

this desu, i'm not a puny slav, i'm a direct descendant of Khan Kuber

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Austin Phillips
Austin Phillips

seething

Brody Howard
Brody Howard

or take statistics very bad

Aaron Long
Aaron Long

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Daniel Young
Daniel Young

turks invaded france and sweden?

Ian Campbell
Ian Campbell

highest concentrations in azerbaijan, iran, italy and turkey
also random blotches all the way to china
i'm gonna need more convincing user

Juan Thomas
Juan Thomas

turks didn't invade france and sweden

Ryan Gomez
Ryan Gomez

Catholic because we're close to Rome
That's kind of true, but only in the sense of the myth. In actuality it's much more complicated. For example, the powerhouse of Croatia back then was the coast and it was almost always under direct Byzantine control. Also keep in mind before Franks took everything, Croatian lands used to be under the Byzantine Empire, not Rome.
When we're talking about being close to Rome, the land was politically and religiously closer to Byzantines instead.

When Croats came and found Illyrians, Romans and various Slavs the church was strong in Byzantine areas, or what you'd call Orthodox today. Christianization of Croats, the ruling caste came from the Franks on the coast and from Byzantines on the east. For example, the Croatian glagolitic alphabet we used all the way until the 19th century was given to us by Byzantine monks.

The picture of Croatia in the 10th and 11th centuries was bizarre. You had a strong Byzantine/Rome split in the church on the coast and Rome biased interior of the country which was Christianized by the Byzantines. While Byzantines called Croats down here, it was Rome which proclaimed our rulers into kings, which made them sway the Roman way. After a few almost civil wars due to the divide in the church, Croats settled for Rome.
Still, our Church history is one of using a Byzantine derived alphabet, rights to Old Church Slavonic mass and even today we don't say Jesus, but Isus like Greeks. Or, for example, we still say pop (as in, the root word for pope) instead of priest. A long history of Croatian Greek rite Catholicism died by the late 19th century, though as nationalism made a shitty strawman from religion and after some shenanigans with Serbs we doubled down on Rome.

Benjamin Long
Benjamin Long

you are the most slaved

Jace Martinez
Jace Martinez

Ah yes, getting turk'd somehow makes you the tallest nations on the planet and very physically robust on average.
Retard

Ethan Evans
Ethan Evans

Stop lying. Poles were the biggest weebs for Yugoslavia

Eli Mitchell
Eli Mitchell

Slovenia is West Slavic
Poland should be reclassified as East Slavic

Logan Cooper
Logan Cooper

never though a russian could be this fucking BASED and redpilled

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Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

It's obvious for everyone who has working brain

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Sebastian Cruz
Sebastian Cruz

Interesting. What about your paganism? How long it persisted and what's left of it?

Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

glad you’ve finally come to terms with being a slav

Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez

croatians are catholic serbs

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Anthony Smith
Anthony Smith

There's almost nothing left of old paganism. Our state was almost fully christian by the 10th century. Pagan researches speculate that last actual paganism was probably dead by the 13th century. What's left of it today are some landmark names and motifs in songs repurposed to be Christian. It's really not much.

The main thing is that the country became predominantly Christian before anyone except the church could write meaning pagans were not a big threat and so there were no persecutions and those landmarks were left with those names. As for actual slavic pagan beliefs, it's all speculation. The most overtly pagan thing I can think of now is a festival in Rijeka where you can see some weird traditional animal costumes.
Though Illyrians did worship some animist gods and snakes beforehand, but it's also fully lost.

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Anthony Adams
Anthony Adams

slava Perunu brate

Charles Parker
Charles Parker

A lot of our cultural shit has pagan roots, with some Christian name slapped on it. I was wondering if you're the same. Our transition to Christianity wasn't so painless and for centuries after we became Christian we had both pagan and christian place of worship in one place.

Jaxon Evans
Jaxon Evans

I remember an episode of "Na rubu znanosti" where they talked about paganism and that it supposedly survived in Gorski Kotar up until ww1

Andrew Diaz
Andrew Diaz

Yes, I'm vaguely aware of how it went and that irradiated Chernobyl zone was one of the last areas where old pagan customs lived in a legit way. Oh well, researchers today have to explore rural Belarus. Acceptance of Christianity around here seems to have been painless.

Ethan Morris
Ethan Morris

I think I know what you're talking about. It's not Gorski kotar, it's the valley of Soča in Slovenia. The first blow was an Austro-Hungarian railway and the second blow was WWI. Afterwards the people never reconnected with their roots. Although I wouldn't call it slavic paganism. It was something very weird.

Mason Lopez
Mason Lopez

this sounds super interesting so i did a bit of googling and found a book called "Razkrite skrivnosti staroverstva". A man who lived there claims claim stat what is now called Belnovo used to be called "Belinovo", after the pagan god Belin or Belibog
apparently there was some sort of canyon or cave where pagans burnt bonfires (kresi) and did rituals but it was all destroyed during ww1 and turned into a bunker

a book from 1882 also claims the same (apparently): sms.zrc-sazu.si/Si/SMS4/Marjeta4.html

some cool shit

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Tyler Johnson
Tyler Johnson

there is another book, it's called "s nevidime strane neba" and they worshipped a different god, there was some snake worship and they had a lunar calendar

Grayson Ward
Grayson Ward

youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_hdKR-DaA

Kayden Clark
Kayden Clark

/thread

this fucking nailed it

Easton King
Easton King

Even with less money
lol wat

Nicholas Parker
Nicholas Parker

I'm familiar with two stories, one of shepherds in the mountains near Tolmin, towards Bohinj who believed in a mythological sky bull and a different community somewhere in the region where some pre-Slavic beliefs survived where people journeyed to a sacred cave and took stones from it to bring magical power into their homes. There was also something about some sacred hills. Allegedly, an ethnologist found fresh offerings in the cave a few years ago, although it is said that most of the communities were crippled during WW1 and the beliefs died out once the last old people associated with the beliefs carried them to their graves in the years after WW2.

Benjamin Taylor
Benjamin Taylor

south slavs
Slovenians are almost okay, but they are extremely arrogant and dickish
Bulgarians and Croatians I very much like, interesting cultures and long histories. Also really comfy climates and nature
The rest are irrelevant.
And Serbia was a mistake

Daniel Young
Daniel Young

So what slavs are Bulgarians?

Colton Price
Colton Price

also south.

Jayden Roberts
Jayden Roberts

we
you are not slav, retard

Liam Morales
Liam Morales

December, everyone preaches about how Christmas is about the birth of Christ and not the superficial acts of gift giving, almost everyone goes to mass, priests visit homes to bless food and land
February: Everyone puts on sheep skull masks to banish the evil ghosts of winter, ritual burning of wickermen and effigies
I always found the contrasts hilarious here.

Nathan Mitchell
Nathan Mitchell

South Slavs have the lowest HIV rates in the whole world

Ryder Bennett
Ryder Bennett

He's not wrong, sounds like Russian

Angel Brown
Angel Brown

They are the only human form of Slavic that exists till modern times due to the whole influence from the Mediterranean nations such as Italy or Greece
Also, they look the best (except of Bulgars, sorry they look like seljaks)

Juan Kelly
Juan Kelly

homocides
this image doesn't seem reputable

Elijah Cruz
Elijah Cruz

Mi svi znamo da si hrvat. U redo je.

Also the head of my political science department is Bulgarian. He's a smart dude although his name is retarded
Ivan Ivanov

Carter Hill
Carter Hill

Ivan Ivanov
That seems to be the name of every second Bulgarian

Landon Russell
Landon Russell

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Mason Long
Mason Long

I'm serious, I've heard of a dozen Ivan Ivanovs.

Ryan Butler
Ryan Butler

that's an ancient farmer haplogroup that was spread in the neolithic and doesn't have much to do with the ottomans

Connor Butler
Connor Butler

Serbians are good frens

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Austin Nelson
Austin Nelson

pre-Slavic beliefs
So Avar shit or something else?

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

who knows? those pagan practices in slovenia are unique, it might have been invented by the people in those villages 300 years ago, it might be 10 000 years old

Easton Mitchell
Easton Mitchell

There were no Avars in the Soča river region and our Slavic ancestors came here with the Avars. A lot of it is Celtic (like the worship of the god Belin which I believe was mentioned earlier in this thread) but the stone worshippers were allegedly following even older traditions.

Justin Carter
Justin Carter

I thought the Avars came from the east and Slavs from the north.

I did see the comment about Belin and assumed it was Celtic (Belenos, Beltane, etc).

Lincoln Baker
Lincoln Baker

Have you got any standing stones or other ancient shit in Croatia?

Camden Gomez
Camden Gomez

Only the Serbocroatians are truly South Slavic. Bulgarians are heavily Russian-influenced and Slovenes are heavily West Slav-influenced.

Justin Scott
Justin Scott

There were two main waves of migration into Slovene lands, the first one from the north, from Moravia and the second from the east, across Pannonia.

Adam Wright
Adam Wright

across Pannonia.
So from Ukraine area?

Matthew James
Matthew James

this for example
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stećak
the motives look like from the stone age, and some have weird stuff on them, like elephants

Owen Baker
Owen Baker

Other way around

Wyatt Jackson
Wyatt Jackson

That's very cool. I didn't know there was an independent Bosnian church.

Liam Ross
Liam Ross

From around Galicia, I suppose, or maybe they were already living in Pannonia and just moved further to the west.

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Aiden Foster
Aiden Foster

Weird that the area of the Avar Khaganate was repopulated by another non-Slavic people.

Zachary King
Zachary King

the Slavs were forest and hill people. They failed in the Alps when confronted with German highland colonization and they failed in Pannonia when pitched against nomadic peoples.

Kevin Bailey
Kevin Bailey

n*mads have a hard on for the carpathian basin. first the huns then the avars then the magyars and then the gypsies.

Jack Campbell
Jack Campbell

Highly based as usual

Jeremiah Cooper
Jeremiah Cooper

no mention of the Bulgar's Turkic origins

Ayden Bennett
Ayden Bennett

Thanks for the explanation.

Gonna see if I can find a subtitled version of that TV programme about paganism mentioned upthread.

Ayden Nelson
Ayden Nelson

they had giant heads since ancient times

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Wyatt Ramirez
Wyatt Ramirez

We are kara boğa

Gavin Moore
Gavin Moore

What do the rest of the slavs think about the south slavs?
I've never talked with one irl, but I knew one Bulgarian in an MMO and he was a mental piece of shit.
I've also talked to some serbs on discord, half of them were alright, the other half was full-blown kremlinbots that fried their brain on RT
propaganda and hated the West fanatically (and also never really had to talk about anything, besides Politics ofc)

t. Ukrainian

Ayden Lewis
Ayden Lewis

The Avars themselves settled there for a reason. Nomadic horsemen needed flat plains which is why they all found the Pannonian basin the perfect place to settle down.

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Logan Gutierrez
Logan Gutierrez

Ljubjana

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Brandon Rogers
Brandon Rogers

Bullshit. Poland was supporting Hungary and Romania over Yugoslavia during the interwar period. After WW2 we were on USSR's leash, so any fraternizing with Tito was limited.
Goran Bregović was cool, though.

Nolan Miller
Nolan Miller

Who was displaced by the nomads? Celts?

William Richardson
William Richardson

The Avars arrived when the Lombards crushed the Gepid state in 568 AD and then migrated to Italy, leaving a power vaccum. Both of the former were Germanic.

Brandon Carter
Brandon Carter

Če se ne bi afnali in bi bila Ljubljana normalno Lublana, ne bi imel noben tujec problemov z zapisom.

Hunter Bennett
Hunter Bennett

also, it's worth noting that the arrival of the Avars was the single most important event in the creation of the South Slavs, as massive Slavic invasions of the Balkans from Serbia to Austria took place within 15 years of it, with the Avars playing an active role in the breaking of the Byzantine hold over the Balkans and the settling of Slavs in the conquered areas, who were their subordinates.

Parker Price
Parker Price

So Slavic history in the Balkans dates from the 5th century?

Carson Martin
Carson Martin

Are slavs a race? When you meet another slav do you consider him your brother/cousin? Or is it like meeting any other different nationality?

Ryder Diaz
Ryder Diaz

This was in the 6th century, or the 500s. At least in the case of Slovenia and Austria, historians have been able to pinpoint the chronology of the Slavic settlement down to the exact year for each part of the country by tracking the sudden extinction of the catholic dioceses in the wider region. The dates fall between 568 AD and 603 AD afaik.

Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez

Literally that they are south slavs we learnt it in school and that's it.

Nathaniel Kelly
Nathaniel Kelly

Are slavs a race?
No.
When you meet another slav do you consider him your brother/cousin?
Yes.

Slav is a cultural and a historical connection which can be very strong, but it's not a racial thing. South slavs have very little in common with lets say Russians genetically.

Adam Rodriguez
Adam Rodriguez

We only feel a sense of kinship because of the similarities in language. Us Slovenes are especially interested in the Czechs and the Serbocroats because we can understand them the best out of the lot.

Charles Long
Charles Long

Nuh, slavs kill each other all their history look at russians and us now. Though germans and all other big tribes do the same.

Jose Lee
Jose Lee

It's an ethno-linguistic group. We can understand at least a little bit of each other so there's a certain connection but nothing to go crazy over.

Jackson Foster
Jackson Foster

Yeah, sorry, I had the date 476 in my head for some reason.

Are there remains in Slovenia or nearby that have been attested to the Illyrian tribes?

Kevin Edwards
Kevin Edwards

Bulgars will always be partly steppe people to me.
There is an ethnic nationalist movement among Kazan Tatars that stresses descent from the Bulgars and is known as Bulgarism – there have been graffiti on the walls in the streets of Kazan with phrases such as "Bulgaria is alive" (Бyлгapия живa)

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Hudson Davis
Hudson Davis

How do slavs feel about pan slavism? Is the idea still alive or is it just a meme

Lucas Brown
Lucas Brown

It's not, and it was already a bit of a meme in the 19th century

Easton Butler
Easton Butler

Not many, but one Illyrian artifact that is widely known to the public is the Vače situla, which dates to preroman times. However, art historians do not share the enthusiasm that tourism promoters have for the vessel, calling it an unconvincing and awkward imitation of Greek art.

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Cameron Myers
Cameron Myers

pan slavism?
Some retards that are probably still communist like it, but no. Never. We're not even that similar. Some of us are catholic and lived in HRE, while others were orthodox and lived as peasants in Siberia. You can't reconcile that shit.

Our modern national founder Ante Starčević outright said pan-Slavism is a Russian invention made to bait us into servitude.

Kayden Wood
Kayden Wood

it was popular here at least amongst the nationalists in the 19th century. today its only supported by a few russiaboos. people here dont feel any affinity or comradery with other slavs except for czechs.

Jason Phillips
Jason Phillips

Vače situla
Iliri? Ne Kelti?

Matthew Jenkins
Matthew Jenkins

v članku piše, da je to izdelek severnih Ilirov, ki so pripadali halštatski kulturi

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vače_Situla

Nolan Perry
Nolan Perry

English please. I understood the first message but not the second.

Josiah Sullivan
Josiah Sullivan

calling it an unconvincing and awkward imitation of Greek art.
Who gives a shit, the fact that it still exists is amazing.

Lincoln Brooks
Lincoln Brooks

Vesel bi bil, če bi mi uspelo najti kak dober vir z vsemi znanimi plemeni. Iliri naj v resnici sploh ne bi bili neka prava skupina plemen, ampak ime, ki so ga Grki dali vsem ljudem severno od njih.

We were talking about whether the situlas were made by Illirian or Celtic people. I thought the location was a bit too far to the north but all sources seem to say it was the case after all.

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Robert Jones
Robert Jones

Thanks :)

Kevin Cruz
Kevin Cruz

no Mariborum

ka so te nori toti Rimljani

Joseph Brooks
Joseph Brooks

Pleme Viol nikoli ni podleglo rimskemu jarmu temveč je še naprej risalo po jamah in razbijalo kamne

John Rivera
John Rivera

i love how my attempt at a "we wuz" meme still gets around
i love Jow Forums

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