Why do asian countries like Japan hate gays? They don't have abrahamic religions. I'm curious

This is good. they can go be gay under their own roof. No need for some queer ass queerparades no gay worth a shit will do that queer shit.

Gay marriage makes zero fucking sense to anyone with two braincells to rub together and a traditional understanding of marriage. For most of human history and in most parts of the world marriage is a contract where a woman subjugates herself to the man in exchange for his protection and provision. This already is a raw deal for the man, considering he's getting something of infinitely lesser value than he's offering. Yet he accepts because the purpose of a marriage is not this exchange per se, but the woman's fertility being used as a means to guarantee his own proginy. That's the sole purpose a marriage serves: providing an environment for reproduction, childrearing and through it a "retirement plan" (having lots of strong children who can take care of you). Gay "marriage" does not fit into that in the slightest, which is why advocates of gay marriage seek to undermine every single part of it. From facilitating divorces to government mandated retirement plans (de-emphasizing the need to have children, which ironically destroys these pension schemes) to that retarded "parent 1 parent 2" bullshit France is pulling.

If you read the fucking screencap you yourself posted you see this exact reasoning: the goal of all marriage is reproduction. Those who cannot reproduce (at least not without requiring expensive treatments (on the bill of the taxpayer of course) and a "third" parent (who's actually the second parent because IVF isn't fucking magic)) are not entitled to marriage.
>D-DOES THIS MEAN A MAN AND A WOMAN WHO HATE EACHOTHER ARE MORE ENTITLED TO MARRIAGE THAN TWO MEN WHO LOVE EACHOTHER?!?!?!?!
Yes
>B-BUT WHAT IF THE WOMAN IS INFERTILE
Then even the most conservative Catholic (au contraire: ESPECIALLY the most conservative Catholic) will acknowledge this as grounds for annullment. Precisely because the goal of marriage is reproduction, one that cannot lead to reproduction is assumed to have never been valid.

Based Colgate dropping truth bombs

why do gays hate straight people?

>Liberal Democratic
>hates faggots and trannies

???

Is the Jap definition of liberal different from the rest of the world or is the Liberal Democratic Party nothing more but a misnomer?

It means they aren't fascists like they used to be and that they aren't communists either. That is about it, the bar is set very low in Japan.

It's the reverse, America's definition of liberal is different from the rest of the world. In America, pinko's have co-opted the term liberal to mean progressive or proto-socialist (which the rise of "democratic socialism" in America today only confirms). In the rest of the world liberal means "keep the government out of our shit". The question of gay "marriage" is merely about whether the government acknowledges it as valid or not (which only really influences some administrative bullshit and whether or not they're entitled to tax benefits that are intended to ensure these couples have more money left by the end of the day to raise and feed children with). Not acknowledging gay marriage isn't the same as criminalizing homosexuality.

Some hard truth there bruv

l really wonder why she could become a politician

>It means they aren't fascists like they used to be and that they aren't communists either
That's what Liberalism is, it doesn't have to do with being nice at all

>Guys marry guys
>Children no produced
It's simple

They were never fascists. Just an extreme imperialist monarchist state.

Taiwan allow gay marriage.

Taiwan is somewhat most liberal country in Asia

>annullment
Or you can just do what Iran does. Allow the man to marry a second wife with the consent of the first one.

That colaborated with nazi germany and fascist italy.

気持ち悪いんだよオカマ野郎
俺に近付くな

Because homosexuality is an arrest of sexual development and thus a mental disease, its just useful for politicians to promote it since it reduces the amount of strong families within a society.

Redpilled

Except monogamy is what made the West great and polygamous countries tend to be unstable shitholes. Monogamy is a social pact that guarantees that every man can (publically) only have one wife, effectively giving everyone the guarantee of marriage and the aforementioned progeny/"retirement". Polygamy means women will, due to their naturally hypergamous nature, flock to the men at the top. Given that under normal circumstances the gender ratio's tend to be rather even, for every man with two wives there's one man without one. Which naturally leads to instability, which partially explains why the Middle East never has any shortage of terrorists (if they live they get to fuck the wives of the enemy, if they lose they get 72 virgins in paradise, a brilliant system of lies and debauchery if you think about it).

Remember: polygamy favors women, monogamy favors men. Polygamy allows women to flock to the best and richest men, monogamy favors low quality women to marry low quality men, meaning they have something to lock forward to.

Mark my fucking words though: we'll seen an alliance between Islam and progressivism to break down monogamous marriages. It's a matter of decades before polygamy is legal and then we'll have a REAL "incel" problem.

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Why do gay couples want to get married?
It's just a paper you submit to your local office
Isn't loving each other enough?

By that logic, I favour polyandry tb-h.
I mean imagine being an incel in polyandry society.

Yep. Fascism =/= meanie regime

>Indonesia
Not surprised. I guess it could work with the social structures that some parts of Indonesia have. In some parts of your country the father impregnates a woman and fucks off while the maternal uncle acts like a father figure, right?

by that logic the usa and the uk were commies because they allied with the Soviet, or vice versa

It's not traditional polygamy, it's allowing the man to reproduce in the rare cases it turns out his wife is infertile. Is it really fair for someone who was born or became infertile to be tossed aside or be doomed to be alone forever? And if one of the women is infertile, why does it matter for you?

Just shitposting, mate. I just twisted your "polygamy favours women" words, because that means polyandry should favours men since polyandry allows men to flocks to the best women.
Also,
>In some parts of your country the father impregnates a woman and fucks off while the maternal uncle acts like a father figure, right?
Where the fuck is this? Legit don't know about that. What I know is some part in this cunt has matrilineal society, so the men tend to move away from the hometown since they wouldn't get inheritances from the family.

>And if one of the women is infertile, why does it matter for you?
Some people want to have offsprings and leave their mark in the world. I'd feel extremely sad if the woman who I love the most in this world turned out to be infertile. Sure, you can adopt children but they will end up having an identity crisis when they find out they're adopted too soon.

meant for

She's cute!

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OwO
I've never thought Dutch people say so
I thought the Netherlands is a gay country...

it's 2019 nigger why should the "traditional understanding" of marriage matter? Marriage is a meme at this point anyway(40-50% divorce rate) but if the fags want to play the game I say let them.

It's a meme because people make it a meme

>tfw no mio sugita gf

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Why aren't Japs fucking their women?

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she looks fertile ;)

agreed 100% Gayness is a disgusting mental illness and a disease, they should be executed.

Why aren't the Japs fucking their women?

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It doesn't work the other way around because men aren't hypergamous. Other than social or religious reasons, men would only freely agree to such an agreement if they're really desperate.

As for the rest, I was talking about avunculate marriages. I thought that in Eastern Indonesia those were a thing? Could be wrong.

Ah alright, that it kinda makes sense as a special circumstance thing. Not a big fan of it but I could see it working. In the West such infertile women would generally end up becoming nuns.

There are always people who go against the grain.

>it's 2019 nigger
Not an argument.

>why should the "traditional understanding" of marriage matter?
Because that understanding of marriage has provided the most succesful reproductive model for literally the entirety of human history? I think that's a pretty decent argument in its favor.

>Marriage is a meme at this point anyway(40-50% divorce rate)
Precisely because we moved towards a more "modern" understanding of marriage (muh love, muh parent 1 parent 2, muh IVF, muh retirement fund).

>but if the fags want to play the game I say let them
I actually agree. We're beyond saving. The sooner everything burns to the ground, the sooner we can start rebuilding. Assuming "we" aren't replaced by Sharia law practicing Muslims who are reproducing like there's no tomorrow precisely because they have a traditional (albeit polygamous) understanding of marriage.

>xDDD le jap weak bois white man gon' steal yo women
Go up to your average 24 year old woman in Japan (that's peak fertility FYI) and ask her why she isn't barefoot and pregnant. It's not because she's holding out for white cock, it's because she's working on her "career". Bitch should've been married at 20, having her first child at 22, her second at 25, her third at 28 and MAYBE at 35, when her youngest child is attending school, can she start thinking about her meme career.

Japanese conservative members of Congress

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l'd rather die a virgin
it's synonymous with dying a martyr in Japan

why?

Nothing to do with abrahamic religion, homosexuality is against human nature

Don't really care about marriage, but civil unions that have the same rights(tax breaks, I just mean tax breaks) should be recognised

So it is against human nature even though other animals exhibit it?

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>make a fuckton of children cartoons that turn guys into faggots
>against gay rights
based

Jap government playing 6D chess

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>which partially explains why the Middle East never has any shortage of terrorists
It's a nice theory but I suspect the bigger culprit is the inbreeding

based post

Based Nippon!

But it isn't true. There are gay clubs bars etc We don't have gay marriage too but simply because people don't care I think. It's a non-issue

Somebody already explained it somewhere. It's because nip women are materialistic whores with vastly overblown expectations.

my penis couldn't live up to their expectations

Because faggots are disgusting, and it's not something exclusive to your ebil religion or your parents.

Learn it already.

Women love big dick. We asian have smol dick. Do the math.

>So it is against human nature
>even though other animals exhibit
Uh, yes? Other animals aren't human.

>For most of human history and in most parts of the world marriage is a contract where a woman subjugates herself to the man in exchange for his protection and provision. This already is a raw deal for the man, considering he's getting something of infinitely lesser value than he's offering.

For most of human history domestic work was immensely more challenging than it is today. It's possible that the exchange wasn't equal, but handling cooking without modern preservation and logistics, or clothing without off-the-rack options and modern appliances still meant that women were doing a fair amount of work.

>That's the sole purpose a marriage serves: providing an environment for reproduction, childrearing and through it a "retirement plan" (having lots of strong children who can take care of you).

You do understand that socially, at a time when your social circle was much more fixed, marriage was for many people the *only* option for reproduction right? On the retirement front, this need and desire lessened due to a massive shift in incomes for the majority of families.

Because sodomites evoke a feeling of disgust and repulsion to all normal people who haven't been conditioned/socialized to think otherwise

I work in a field where there are many sodomites and I have to interact with those freaks very often and I feel nothing but contempt and revulsion towards them and I am an atheist

Oh so you're just objectively correct.

>that retarded "parent 1 parent 2" bullshit France is pulling
a quick rundown on this pls

>smart
>abe has to literally make up economic data to make the country seem productive
Pick one

define human nature

>For most of human history domestic work was immensely more challenging than it is today. It's possible that the exchange wasn't equal, but handling cooking without modern preservation and logistics, or clothing without off-the-rack options and modern appliances still meant that women were doing a fair amount of work.
Fair enough.

>You do understand that socially, at a time when your social circle was much more fixed, marriage was for many people the *only* option for reproduction right?
True, but on the other hand women who just whored around were also stuck with a lot of children and no man willing to pay for them. Which fits into the "environment suitable for production" thing: it gives the man a reason (or rather an obligation) to stick around.

>On the retirement front, this need and desire lessened due to a massive shift in incomes for the majority of families.
If income alone was responsible for this, we wouldn't have socialized retirement plans and everyone would just have a private retirement. This need did not disappear, it was just co-opted by the state in an an attempt (or if we're being more generous: with the unforeseen consequence) to destroy the family unit.

telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/14/schools-france-replace-mother-father-parent-1-2-controversial/
tl;dr: Using letters that adress the "father and mother" are presumptuous and homophobic so instead "parent 1 and parent 2" are used.

it's like saying that having a mental disease is in human nature. It is sort of natural but it's not a favorable condition

I saw two meter tall nigger tranny in subway train today
fuck american cultural impact

it's a primitive notion

It's like the sensationalistic media reporting about the most sensationalistic remark from the most sensationalistic politician in japan

giving me a headache

Based Aquafresh. I hope that world will repeal faggot """marriage""" as soon as possible
>its [current yeat]
>soyboy.jpg

Women have equal value to society as a worker in the services industry as men, and should focus on a successful career in the service-based economy, not reproduce. The idea that all men and women need mates is obsolete in a globalised and borderless world based on service provision, it is acceptable for the vast majority of the world to work and never reproduce, and our population growth would still be positive. Men and women who are lifelong virgins are good for the economy as they don't waste time on relationships.

>it is acceptable for the vast majority of the world to work and never reproduce, and our population growth would still be positive
>Men and women who are lifelong virgins are good for the economy as they don't waste time on relationships.
Yes!

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That brit is right. Marriage isn't a physical law or something like that, was a made up term to integrate males and females into societies. If those societies are changing, marriage will do the same thing.

based

>Step 1 (one): study 9 hours a day in school
>Step 2 (two): go to uni and study even harder
>Step 3 (three): sign a lifetime job contract as a lowest office rat ever
>Step 4 (four): marry a random woman and start working harder than before
>Step 5 (five): take a mortgage and work as hard as it possible 12h/day/300days per year
>Step 6 (six): retire at age 70 and die
Japs are robots, so they need a script to live. They have no time to feel love

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marriage is made for reproduction, usurping it with something else is just usurping

Gays are mentally ill. Same sex marriage is unnatural and disgusting.

>Women have equal value to society as a worker in the services industry as men
Based on what exactly? Because the persistent wage gap despite the governments constantly throwing money at women (diversity quota's, scholarships, maternity leave et cetera) proves otherwise. Then there's also the fact that women as a group aren't even net taxpayers.

>and should focus on a successful career in the service-based economy, not reproduce.
Indeed, they shouldn't reproduce. Because the world is overpopulated. But then there's nobody left to pay our pensions. Which means we must now import people from part of the worlds that are ACTUALLY overpopulated so they can replace us in our own homeland. Hey, we've sold our future for short term gain but at least women are in the workforce now!

>The idea that all men and women need mates is obsolete
It will become obsolete once we learn how to reproduce asexually. Until then, ironically, those who believe that reproduction is obsolete are themselves only a generation away from obsolence.

>it is acceptable for the vast majority of the world to work and never reproduce
I... do you even understand how reproduction works?

>Men and women who are lifelong virgins are good for the economy as they don't waste time on relationships.
You know what's even better for the economy? Mass obesity. Think about it, if everyone were fucking obese then the economy would be great!
>Painful joints + easily fatigued = more driving, more automobile purchases and more oil consumption
>More sales of addictive foods loaded with sugar, transfats and additives
>Increases demand for diabetes medication and bypass surgeries
>Most people die before retirement age, solving the whole pension problem
Obviously we should ban breastfeeding and instead feed newborn babies lard.

Taiwan held a referendum on gay marriage and 67% voted against

Judaya ga nani o ichiban osoruka? Samurai da

BASED

>we'll seen an alliance between Islam and progressivism to break down monogamous marriages
Interesting point. I could see "polyamory" becoming officially accepted, and from there it's just a small step towards accepting polygamy, due to "religious discrimination" - a term that is used regularly as a discussion tool to undermine the separation between religion and state.

>Japanese Liberal Demogratic Party
LDP is as “liberal” as democrats are “democratic”

>so they can replace us in our own homeland.
>us
who?
>do you even understand how reproduction works?
I understand that automation and AI will remove the need for human populations as large as we have now. If it were to fall drastically in the coming years, it will benefit humanity in the long run as there will be less useless people in the economy.

>marriage is made for reproduction
It wasn't. When beta males were not able to compete with the alpha, they eventually leave the tribe. You can't build civilizations with that system, so marriage was made to attract those males that were left out, granting them a wife and offsprings.

Based and redpilled.

>I understand that automation and AI will remove the need for human populations as large as we have now
Yeah... X or Y has "removed the need for large human populations" for decades now. Throwing in Z won't change anything, it's just the hip go-to thing to justify something you useful idiots had already decided upon in advance. It's just the latest in a long line of excuses. Just like how as soon as the automation scare began, all the communists started crawling out of the woodworks and shouting "UBI!". They don't actually believe it will fix the problem (or even that there'll be a problem), they just need a convenient vehicle to implement what they already desired in the first place.

>If it were to fall drastically in the coming years, it will benefit humanity in the long run as there will be less useless people in the economy.
Alright then, after you.

>who?
immigrants with vastly different and incompatible cultural values from overpopulation parts of the world
>I understand that automation and AI will remove the need for human populations as large as we have now. If it were to fall drastically in the coming years, it will benefit humanity in the long run as there will be less useless people in the economy.
not a for a nigger...

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Why can't japs make baby

Based

>When beta males were not able to compete with the alpha, they eventually leave the tribe.
Dude, humans =/= canines.

>abrahamics invented hating gays
found the brainlet

itll take another half a century or so at the minimum for any east asian countries to pass a gay marriage law and thats a good thing