Who else living in a (semi-developed) 2nd world country here?
>doesn't have to pretend we have ""problems"" like fake depression, like firstoids do because we actually have serious problems
>isn't living in the worst living conditions like 3rd world nations do either
Feels good.
2nd world means being a communist country during the cold war, not the level of development.
That's the old definition
It's the only definition, since it's not used anymore.
>>isn't living in the worst living conditions like 3rd world nations do either
dude the majority of your cunt has people living in slums near to trash dumps. it has a few good cities but it's still third world.
here
Firstoid
While this place is a shithole, it isn't as bad as actual 3rd worlders.
2nd worlder here, pretty comfy. No whites down here.
>isn't as bad as actual 3rd worlders
oh i am laffing
why?
You're presumably from a wealthier family. I used to think the same too, but then I found out that nearly 58% of young people here live below poverty and that I was one of the lucky kids who was better off financially speaking.
I'm not from a wealthier family. I'm middle class.
I don't live in the capital (the biggest shithole in this country), I live in a safe, comfy city with low standards of living and a predominant middle class.
And the poor here is around 21%, compared to 26% 4 years ago.
>I'm not from a wealthier family. I'm middle class
Exactly, I'm also part of the middle class, but even that by itself can be considered privileged enough to not face the same issues that a poor person from our country would face. I even realized that some people in my island still don't have AC.
I don't know much about Phillipines and poverty, so I'll abstain from making a comment there.
Lmao Philippines is the most third world country I can think of
Mate Philippines has GDP per capita of what? Like 2000$? Very first world kek that's worse than even my cunt
Not me, I live in a third world shithole
Even better if you are upper class. I travel abroad every year, have everything i need and more. My parents will pay for my post-graduate degrees, and so i'm gonna make even more money than them.
It's nice being wealthy since it frees me up to grow intellectually, without worries.
Of course that's ours too.
But what I mean is that these problems aren't as hopeless as actual 3rd world countries. Things are getting better.
The poor have universal healthcare now. Free education to some extent. Cash transfers as well.
The poverty rate is bloated mostly outside the cities.
But still, that doesn't mean everything's comfy. we also have problems. No water, rotating brownouts, slow as fuck internet, corruption and extortion and in some places high crime rates. We actually have problems unlike firstoid losers with their "depression" and social welfare.
Firstoid
Didn't say we were first world. Indon is semi-developed 2nd world too
that's great and all but it's still third world.
2nd world
Who cares lmao we can claim to be as rich or poor as we want but if others don't think the same it won't matter. Work on making your country an actual 2nd or even 1st world tier, then maybe people will start classifying it as such (even though it's all useless bullshit for people who lust for recognition)
If Philippines isn't 3rd world who are 3rd world then? African countries and...?
>Philippines
>pretending to not be third world
How pathetic. You're a thirdie just like the rest of us. Stop being delusional.
Most of the former USSR never fully recovered from the fall of the Soviet Union.
So technically we're both 2nd world in terms of development now.
Gdp per capita doesn't mean shit. Even equatorial guinea has a higher gdp per capita than the Philippines.
>former Soviet republics who were 2nd world are now as poor as us, can't you see how 2nd world we are?
Mate that's not really going to convince people. Instead of being a total whingy monkey like
>hurr can't you see how developed my country is? Just look at these charts haha
you should actually work on serving your country and make it better. Everyone is not going to perceive you as being developed unless you actually achieve that status, not posting tedious charts online.
Is puerto rico that bad?
What you mean with "that bad"? They aren't Haiti tier but is not a good place to live too
You are 2nd world
Parts of the middle east?
Places like bangledesh and maybe india?
We are considered lower middle income countries
Lol India is much more powerful and more advanced than the Philippines.
2nd world never meant a level of development you retarded ape. It meant a "world", meaning a different grand scheme organizing the lives of people, capitalism, democracy and freedom for the first world, usser-style socialism, communism for the second world and all the rest, the uncivilized savages, the decolonizing westernslave colonies, the not soviet-aligned communists were the non-aligned third world. It became associated with human development, but was never meant to be a tier system for hdi or gdp.
Militarily, probably
No. Economically, politically, and industrially, but yes, also militarily.
Politically, no.
Maybe industrially.
But with a billion in population, that GDP doesn't help much.
>politically, no
India is a power of its own. They have a higher bargaining power in the world stage.
What is the Philippines? Chinese lapdog?
>Tier 4
Yeah okay.
I respect you opinion since you are not a crybaby firstoid, but..
With that logic Jokowi is a chinese puppet as well
Tier 4 looks like the middle to me, sorta developed at the same time still a long ways to go
I don't need a firstoid telling me about my country
>jokowi is a chinese puppet
Sure you can make the case for that. India is powerful enough to compete with all of ASEAN combined. I know that we like to joke about India superpooper or whatever, but you have to admit India is much more powerful than the Philippines or Indonesia in the world stage.
You described Tier2/3. Tier 4 are literal shitholes.
Not saying it isn't but being powerful on the world stage doesn't mean you are not a 3rd world country.
That's your firstoid ranking which is an opinion that belongs in the trash
I never said it's not. Because like others have said, the first-second-third world categorization refers to political alignment during the cold war, which is irrelevant today.
More specifically, it means being USSR-aligned, rather than simply communist.
Yugoslavia, for instance, while communist, was third-world. Romania also was communist but (debatably) neutral, and thus third-world. Austria is an example of a non-communist third-world country that isn't a shit-hole like the Philippines.
The Philippines, of course, is not only a third-world country, but is also a backwards, undeveloped, dreadful place.
This isn't really a good measure of development since it considers a whole lot of extraneous politically-charged issues.
Which I believe is an old definition. If 1st and 3rd world countries today refer to development, I don't see why the term 2nd world shouldn't adapt as well.
Another ignorant firstoid I see
lol
Why do firstoids think they know shit about life outside their safe space?
Life is pretty good in middle tier countries.
>1st and 3rd world countries today refer to development
It doesn't. Anyone that says it does is an idiot that doesn't understand shit.
>1st and 3rd world countries today refer to development
Which is a giant misinterpretation in and of itself; the terms you're looking for are developed, developing and underdeveloped. Using these classifications you can sleep well at night knowing that your country no longer belongs to the bottommost tier, rather the middle one.
Yes it does, and people who says it isn't is as stupid.
People use the term that way and when widely embraced, so it has become exactly that. that's how language works. That's how the entire english language works.
You logic is specious, at best.
If a country isn't underdeveloped then why would it need to be developing?
>brownshit thirdie thinking he knows anything about English
I said language in general.
Lol.
I thought firstoids went to good educational institutions
I personally like to think of it as emphasising the fact that little has been (or is being) done to tackle the underdevelopment. You can see significant (positive) changes over a relatively short period of time in countries classified as "developing" but the situation remains relatively stagnant in underdeveloped ones.
No one uses it like you're using it though. When people use it like that, they only use "first" and "third", " first" meaning developed, "third" meaning developing. So you trying to change the meaning of second world to make yourself feel better is very pathetic.
>That's how the entire english language works.
>I said language in general
So which is it you dumb flip? You can't even remember what you're typing lol
>he unironically thinks that the Philippines isn't a third-world country
Wew lad!
Language in general, and that includes english, Indon user.
I won't call you dumb because I respect all the opinions of my fellow anons outside privileged first world countries, but I'm just saying my opinion regarding the matter.
>So you trying to change the meaning of second world to make yourself feel better is very pathetic.
I'm just saying the term "2nd world" should also apply with the change in terms. Nothing really wrong about that. but I understand and respect your opinion.
My education alone is worth more than everything you will ever own. How does that feel?
Although you did attempt to reach the subject in the broadmost sense, you failed when you specified a particular language though: English, thus making the insult of the Briton valid.
>not a new IP according to Jow Forums X
Lol firstoid trying to samefag, for what reason?
I know what the intention is but I think it's mincing words.
That's how language in general works, though. It includes english. Things becaome part of it by usage. It would be very stupid if it weren't so.
It unfortunately comes with the confusion you mentioned, I have to concur. I thought it was the most prevalent way to classify nations for in this case OP is trying to get people to think that his country does not belong to the bottommost tier, and I fail to see many other classification systems that appease his lust best.
Whatever makes you happy I guess. No matter what I can never convince you, even when I've presented facts. I just hope you'll finally come to your senses when you've learned more and mature a little bit more. However I can tell you this : you can believe whatever you want, but the world would still move without you.
Exactly, regardless of whether you were correct, you stated your opinions about the English language, thus making it valid for the Briton to mock you for it. I'm not talking about who's correct, by the way.
One thing is for certain if your less developed than mexico your thirdworld , and the philipines fit that perfectly
>pakistan lower than india
yeah, ok
At least our nation isn't dying. Metro Manila alone is now a more significant economy than your entire country.
>muh economy
And yet the average salary is pennies compared to hungary
firstoids dont need you to validate whatever problems they have LMAO they will keep their problems are legitimate whether you think so or otherwise
no go back to washing my dishes maria santos
Based firstoid
why do thirdies always fall for the "muh gdp economy" meme? do they think their countries are mere economic areas?
>serbshit education
>fail to see many other classification systems that appease his lust best
The recent economic boom, lowering poverty rates, lowering unemployment rates, a massive infrastructure drive, and for the most part I am not living in a powerless shithole and can enjoy many comforts of life.
Honestly, I'm just happy we are part our the generation that made our respective countries great, and built it up.
Unlike f*rstoids that inherited all the comforts they have today. They never worked for it and they can never be proud of it.
It does not.
Pajeets and Flips practucally do most of the important work in Singachink lol
>he thinks he contributed anything to his country instead of just being born in a relatively well off family in a thirdie country
LOL
>social progress ranking
aha ha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ive come here to say Russia isn't 2nd country. Libtards, you can say everything and attach any imagine arguments, but anyone who doesn't have a psychic disease realizes that Russia is full of progressive characteristics, even more than other world
did i deny that? did i say normal singaporeans do hard work? im saying nobody really gives a shit about what you think is a real problem or not
based
I was born middle class
Now you're acting like an ignorant firstoid, I respectfully ask that you stop, out of respect for my fellow Indon 2nd worlder of course.
>I-I'm middle class guys I swear I'm suffering!
>H-how do I have the time to shitpost on Jow Forums? I swear I'm doing hard labour right now!
>middle class
>he thinks he knows shit about contributing to the country
>he thinks he can determine if a country is thirdie or not
your opinion on this matter is only relevant if you are :
a. a hardened farmer providing food for his country
b. a hard working worker moving the cogs of the industry
c. a wise business man that started from the bottom and has contributed to the country's economy and also providing hundreds of jobs for people
d. a down to earth and honest government official working for the good of his people
I have a feeling you don't fulfill any of these criteria
Well, 1st world problems aren't actually problems. They're very superficial.
>firstoid thinks regular extortion, high crime, no water, rotating blackouts, and serious traffic aren't problems
Well, I'm sure your problems like "depression" are so serious it makes you want to die. lmao
I am C. I own a small business.
I said started from the bottom, not continuing your parent's business, not using your parent's money to start the business. If anything, it's your parents that has a say in this matter
Now you're just moving the goalposts.
Well, I inherited my parent's business sure, but it was struggling. Now it's doing okay, but its seasonal.
When I was a kid I worked in that same business, and was a manager of it in college.
My parents gave me food and basic necessities sure, but I had to earn money because 1.) I am a greedy man who like earning money and 2.) I do it so I can buy the things I want, and also for my schooling and etc.
I also had sideline jobs apart from business.
4 paragraphs reply to my 2 posts, 0 valid counterpoints made.
Well, I think you're just shitposting because you are butthurt now.
I hope you have a good day fellow Indon 2nd world user and god bless ASEAN.
lol how privileged can a thirdie be. you literally have everything handed to you, your life is basically guaranteed, yet you still claim that you're struggling? how about you ask the poor farmers worried if their crops will fail, and the struggling workers working paycheck to paycheck whether or not they live in a third world or second world country?
remember to say thanks to your parents for providing you with such opportunities in life that your less fortunate countrymen can only dream of.
>boo youre butthurt
So are you going to actually prove any of my arguments wrong or are you going to prolong the ad hominem tomfoolery?