What the fuck happened to Italy? Why doesn't its economy grow and why do so...

Kayden Brown
Kayden Brown

What the fuck happened to Italy? Why doesn't its economy grow and why do so many people leave? With its good climate and multiple famous cities, shouldn't it always be a top country? How did it get fucked up?

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Julian Harris
Julian Harris

EU and euro

Landon Rivera
Landon Rivera

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Eli Mitchell
Eli Mitchell

fucked leadership, corruption, no one paying taxes.

Josiah Scott
Josiah Scott

why do the same corrupt politicians get elected over and over again?

Ayden Brown
Ayden Brown

Despite everything, Italy is still one of the top economies of the world and definitely one of the best countries to live in.

Brayden Lewis
Brayden Lewis

Spain replaced it

Aiden Gomez
Aiden Gomez

Because they like them on a personal level.

Jack Hall
Jack Hall

Italy hasn't changed much in the last couple of millennia, deal with it and move on praising baltic whiteness or whatever

Cameron Butler
Cameron Butler

damm it's over innit?

Nathan Hernandez
Nathan Hernandez

Because we are shit like we have always been, brown people deserve brown countries

Dominic Peterson
Dominic Peterson

Based

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

Everything takes years of bureaucracy so companies are leaving. EU offers better opportunities for young people so they all go to UK and Germany. Their governments never manage to last 5 years so the country always seems unstable (and not a good investment)

Jeremiah Wood
Jeremiah Wood

which is weird because Italy has never been as stable as today, compared to the 1970s-1990s.

Alexander Garcia
Alexander Garcia

It's all because of the Southern part of Italia, which is at best Africa tier.

Dylan Fisher
Dylan Fisher

During that period you had a lot of important companies (FIAT, Olivetti, rubber/plastic companies, etc) that now are less interesting or don't exist anymore. I think you didn't catch up with internet revolution, among other things. Sad, considering that Olivetti was so promising.

Oliver Williams
Oliver Williams

yeah but we had like a terror attack every other week

the south's only chance is to become a seaside resort for poor tourists like Spain, there's potential but it's wasted right now

Xavier Rogers
Xavier Rogers

have you ever seen a socialist country succed?

David Cook
David Cook

All those points remind me of home

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Elijah Johnson
Elijah Johnson

This wouldnt fucking happen with IL DVCE

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Sebastian Peterson
Sebastian Peterson

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Michael Hill
Michael Hill

Yes the USSR

Jason Cox
Jason Cox

based. Italy needed hard communism after ww2

Noah Bell
Noah Bell

Italy needed hard communism
yes, everyone knows kids need to be vaccinated to prevent future diseases

Elijah Gomez
Elijah Gomez

Political situation was more clear imo. I mean you had like 200 Andreotti governments lmao Today it seems all so confused. Salvini and M5S seems dangerous for the EU and Berlusconi and Renzi are basically dead so there's no clear opponent. This is what scares the markets imo

Cooper Edwards
Cooper Edwards

Italy is the Argentina of Europe
And Argentina is the Italy of the Americas

And no, that's not a good thing

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Josiah Morgan
Josiah Morgan

This is what scares the markets

propaganda and lies scare them

Asher Russell
Asher Russell

Wrong pic. But I'm too lazy to delete and search again so whatever

Grayson Martinez
Grayson Martinez

Yeah, propaganda and lies by the government

Hudson Sanders
Hudson Sanders

Well that's also true since I doubt they'll try to go out of EU but both parties were anti euro/ anti eu before. So I can see why EU don't like them

Ryan Williams
Ryan Williams

the state of Piedmontcucks
without Turin it would be even worse

Jace Watson
Jace Watson

corruption happens everywhere and tax evasion is due to a lot of factors like high level of taxes, taxation system too complicate, etc.
The real problem is that with the end of the old parties in the 90s we haven't had anymore good politicians

Blake Baker
Blake Baker

i love italy
youre lying op
itqly is greater than u

Jeremiah Morgan
Jeremiah Morgan

This is the only correct answer.

Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

cute

stay safe and beware of the eternal frog

Zachary Nelson
Zachary Nelson

Solve this riddle to find out.

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Xavier Collins
Xavier Collins

thank you greatest african ally. i'm sad for your country situation. stay safe

Eli Reyes
Eli Reyes

Because democracy is a lie?

Hudson Moore
Hudson Moore

It sucks Italy was so inept and making an empire and allowed the Spanish and french to spread their faggot languages so far

Landon Martin
Landon Martin

Italian language is gay as a fuck too.
French is manlier than any other language.
Spanish is indeed atrocious. My first thought when I see someone speak spanish is to cut their tongues with a butter knife

Nathaniel Collins
Nathaniel Collins

A

Noah Gutierrez
Noah Gutierrez

french is manlier than any other language

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Luis Hall
Luis Hall

Well. They have lots of niggers who don’t contribute, and they also have a Mussolini who is still in power..

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Cooper Morgan
Cooper Morgan

youtu.be/sr078vS8l_4
italy
etalia
ايطاليا
talyan

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Nolan Garcia
Nolan Garcia

the richest part was stolen from austria and speaks german

Mason Moore
Mason Moore

Left: Croatian model
Right: Italians reaction

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Sebastian Campbell
Sebastian Campbell

Left: Croatian soldiers
Right: Italian soldiers

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Ryan Bennett
Ryan Bennett

Tell Haftar I said hi and wish him well (make sure he is eating his greens)

Grayson Bennett
Grayson Bennett

the south's only chance is to become a seaside resort
Why isn't South Italy popular for tourists? Isn't it a bit like Greece?

Brandon Hernandez
Brandon Hernandez

I‘ll be in vacation in Croatia this summer. Where can I find a Croatian qt even nearly hot like the goddess on the left?

Adam Turner
Adam Turner

wakata

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Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

Why isn't South Italy popular for tourists?
It is, just not as much as the north.

Noah Ward
Noah Ward

anglos need to learn to shut the fuck up

Jeremiah Jackson
Jeremiah Jackson

why korwatia?

Aiden Clark
Aiden Clark

Almost everyone who visits "Italy" just takes a Rome-Florence-Venice week trip. But seeing how aggressive this type of mass tourism is, I don't think I want it here.

Connor Garcia
Connor Garcia

Why not? Nice landscape, mountains, beaches and the people are also great. I have some Croatian friends and they are based as hell.

Caleb Williams
Caleb Williams

Shit infrastructure and natives unable to speak in English

Carson Torres
Carson Torres

No

Hunter Cooper
Hunter Cooper

It's just a phase.
A long one yet still just a phase.

Malaka come on, In comparisson to the mass immigration in the WW periods this is nothing AND it's more local.

Michael Watson
Michael Watson

the richest part what does produce to be so rich? Speck and Apples
They are rich only because they get taxes form the Italians that they dislike so much.
Fuck them and fuck you Amerimutt Germanboo

Benjamin Powell
Benjamin Powell

You can't really deny that french is a feminine language
I never said it sounded ugly just by no means manly

Jacob Long
Jacob Long

Hmm... this sounds strangely familiar...

Gabriel Mitchell
Gabriel Mitchell

this
the euro is too overvalued for our economy

David Ward
David Ward

they're rich because of tourists from germany

Chase Lee
Chase Lee

How so? We depend on energy imports

Justin Robinson
Justin Robinson

Public services are very good in every part of the country.

Nolan Williams
Nolan Williams

Implying near regions don't get German tourists

Nolan King
Nolan King

not as much as Sudtirolo, look up the numbers. It's also much less populated than Veneto and Lombardia so GDP per capita is higher

Grayson Parker
Grayson Parker

I doubt it's the tourists. Alto Adige is just like Veneto but with less taxes. It's obvious they do well

Luke Smith
Luke Smith

I genuinely believe that meds as a whole are completely incapable of making an even vaguely efficient institution

Sebastian Rogers
Sebastian Rogers

Argentinians are just Spanish'd Italians so of course it sounds familiar

Logan Turner
Logan Turner

they do tourism well

Jackson Lewis
Jackson Lewis

0 protestant work ethic. They're in the pope's sphere of laziness.

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Elijah Carter
Elijah Carter

So does Veneto, but it's not like their economy is based on tourism

Aaron Davis
Aaron Davis

Isn't Austria catholic?

Jack Parker
Jack Parker

like Ireland and south germany

Xavier Reyes
Xavier Reyes

two of the five top countries are Catholic and another one has a substantial amount of Catholics

Evan Rodriguez
Evan Rodriguez

is this accounted for cost of living, though?

Luke White
Luke White

Spain has surprassed Italy in every economic metric per capita at this point. Their industry is more competitive,their banking is much better,their infrastructure is miles better,its cities are tidier and cleaner, its population is more educated, its active population is as large as Italy's with less population and services in Spain have a much higher added value than Italy's. The north of Italy is in an industrial decay as they haven't figured out how to adpat to the new economic order. They are surviving using debt to finance their humongous public sector. Blaming the south for everything is a meme as the north of the country is as stagnant as decadent as the south at this point

Colton Miller
Colton Miller

How can the North revolutionize its industrial sector with one of the highest OCSE taxations and none of the returns?

Austin Martinez
Austin Martinez

Italian banks and hedge funds have invested very little in upcoming sectors and mostly invested all of their savings in national bonds and house mortages. The high fiscal pressure is an issue but is the only way that the country can sustain its current economic model of national debt and public employment. Italy needs a severe restructure of its public administration and a good reform to its education if it doesn't want to collapse. There is plenty of capable human capital in the country that has been wasted on sheer political incompetence

Jace Brooks
Jace Brooks

There's plenty of actual capital wasted in non-productive areas. Look at the levels of fiscal surplus in the northern regions. Way over the EU average, and this is even considering an absurdly high taxation and no investments

Jason Ward
Jason Ward

good climate makes people rich
wrong

Isaac Gray
Isaac Gray

Italian banks invest mostly on public bonds. Most of Italy's debt is own by its banks. All your savings are going to finance an inefficient burocracy and a corrupt political caste while banks get tax exempts in the form of loan interests to the state that are backed up by the European Central Bank. If Italy reduces the size of the Italian administration public bonds would not be emitted as often an Italian banks would invest in productive areas of the economy

Xavier Johnson
Xavier Johnson

You're just repeating yourself and not addressing my point

Easton Perez
Easton Perez

What point? That high taxes are the problem? Italy needs high taxes to pay its burocracy,its aging population and the constant debt influx by the BCE. It all boil downs to public employment believe it or not.

Jason Russell
Jason Russell

EU
Absolutely not
euro
Partially

Jackson Russell
Jackson Russell

No, you fucking retard, Italy had Keynesian economics for all of the 90s and they kept devaluing the currency so you exported a ton of shit to other places and it looked like you got reach.
But now not only you have joined the eurozone which prevents you from devaluing your currency all the time, your supply and demand balance is completely fucked because money was so cheap (everybody spent it cos it's value was so devalued all the time).
Oh it's also your answer (OP)

Jordan Long
Jordan Long

that is part of the reason, yes

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