Why don't Indians and Filipinos kill/ban journalists who publish news that portrays their entire countries as complete unlivable shitholes where nothing good could ever happen? Below is literally the only headlines about these countries on our local news sites... India: >muh poverty >muh human trafficking >muh Kashmir >muh pollution >muh sweatshops >muh rape
Philippines: >muh drug war >muh poverty >muh pedophilia >muh arrest of critics >muh kidnappings >muh IS
They never mention anything about how many people have moved out of poverty, how great the economies are booming, inspirational stories of people who faced struggle before but live a good life today? Why can't they say anything nice about the countries? These are one of the only countries that has persistent poverty porn being published. I can't recall any other where there's a constant flow of exclusively bad news
Because that would further strengthen the notion they are shitholes Mr poodiaspora
Brayden Diaz
>muh pedophilia publishing pedophilia is a positive advertisement for their tourism
Jason Sanders
I am not a diehard Duterte supporter, but.
The press (especially the western liberal media) portrays Duterte very unfairly. They paint him as a dictator when so far he has respected free speech and free press on a country that loves denocracy like mine. They paint him as ultra right wing when in essence his programs as both mayor and president are leftist ideals: universal healthcare, women and lgbt rights, equality of work and pay, free education, free trade, etc. Comparing him to Trump is disrespectful to Duterte. As a 2 decade mayor he transformed a rebel infested shithole into a metropolis with one of the highest quality of life in the country.
Sure, Duterte has flaws, but overall the west media should be ashamed.
John Howard
This He's literally a democratically elected leader and the socalled "critics" like that one dyke journalist has legitimate reasons to be facing charges. It pisses me off as she is portrayed as some sort of saint of truth despite having actually publishing fabricated news. I heard she claimed that shooting incident in Manila was an IS attack even though all evidence pointed out that it was some butthurt gambling addict who was banned. Do you know about this?
DELET THIS
Parker Williams
Cuz the philippines is
Source: born to and raised by flipinos
Joseph Powell
stay in HK, you self-hating prick. People like you deserve mandatory vasectomy
Jacob Green
Yes. I think her name was Maria Ressa IIRC. Anyways, sure Duterte is trying to jail her, and Rappler has been guilty of sensationalist news because he really hates the chick. But people forget that Duterte has stuck with the law in jailing her. Even if the law he's basing it on is shaky at best.
Duterte has respected democracy ever since he was mayor. Not once did he do dictator tier shit. Duterte isn't special in what he did. All the presidents before him took advantage of the country's weak institutions to jail critics.
Connor Bell
If you were filipino you’d be self hating too
Asher Nelson
Oh yeah the dude that lost and went on a shooting spree on the casino then realized what he did and killed himself
Chase Mitchell
Because both of our countries have a free press meaning that anything and everything can be published. Most other developing countries don't really have a free press which seems to disproportionately paint an image of India and Phillipines as violent, crime infested places while there's little to no news from other countries that seems to show their country in a negative light.
Gavin Cook
nah, then you would have pride in your country despite its flaws, because things are getting better
kek, that's what I also heard. Things he is condemned for today was done in the past and nobody cared. I think it's just that these journalists have realized that the country is improved and their poverty porn cash cow is running dry so they need something more controversial+he's a threat to the establishment they are backing
John Torres
damn sometimes, countries need a more regulated press until they have reached a certain poverty level and GDP per capita. I guess Thailand or Sri Lanka would be good thresholds
Connor Stewart
Because profits from tourism only increase every year.
Poverty Tourism has done wonders to India since ages and the past half a decade only boosted more white tourists to come to India as well. Especially guys like Baldr or Bald and Bankrupt who also showed the ground level of India, as much as we get negative comments on these videos we also get positive approval.
White people will still travel to India en masse because it's a dangerous hellhole, poverty Tourism and the corpse river memes have only made it better. Just like how Pewdiepie and the internet's fixation on T series made them even bigger than before. Now, they're collaborating with Pitbull and have Chinese and Latin American artists signing up apparently if that faggot CEO is to be believed.
This is why India never pays people to shill for tourism. It runs itself unlike our neighbouring countries
White tourists will be the first to visit India if we make some news up about a magic tree that kills everyone who isn't Indian touches it just to bust myths or make vlogs about it. We're actually thankful for all the memes desu
Negative PR is still PR
Andrew Campbell
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Michael Bailey
My dad travelled to india once for business and said he had to drive with some shitty bus through a jungle. The driver ran over some old woman and my dad asked him if he noticed and why he isnt stopping. Guy said that it was A) a woman B) she was old so he doesnt give a fuck
Cooper Reyes
Why would I be proud of a country of barbarians that was of no historical significance and will always be a backwards shithole. At least you have history you can be proud of, I have fuckall.
Tyler Johnson
based that's 1 minue 1.2 billion
Alexander Ortiz
People die when it is written in their destiny
Camden Peterson
Bad press will motivate them to improve. And one day you'll wake up to two new superpowers
Liam Hall
>I can't recall any other where there's a constant flow of exclusively bad news all of Africa
Nathaniel Clark
OFW 1st gen immigrant shits are the worst scum in our countrym they vote for the ABSOLUTE WORST people almost everytime.
Don't vote and stay away from my country you faggot
Robert Cruz
I love this copy pasta
Adrian Hill
The first world gets the news they want to listen to, for the most part.
That doesn't mean our Americanized media isn't shit and isn't to blame.
It's because Duterte is attacking them. He's like Trump that attacks the press constantly. He has a beef with Rappler when they started attacking his BFF, who's his special assistant.
>Why can't they say anything nice about the countries?
The Pulitzer Prize is practically only ever awarded for poverty and suffering porn. There's no incentive for them to cover developing nations otherwise.
I'm glad the internet is wrecking their business model.
Bentley Gray
Gladly, I never wanted to be born into this shithole anyway
Joseph Morales
To fix the problems. You need someone to point them out first.
David Sullivan
Why do I feel this is made up bullshit.
Charles Torres
He probably ran over a monkey in the jungle. Doubt your German could see the difference cmonBruh
Carter Davis
You dont have much time till 2020 anymore
He had no reason to lie to me, but I cant know for sure.
thats pretty rude towards the woman.
Easton Bennett
Because we are soft targets and dont raise our voice. This country IS a shithole, but it is nowhere near the level which western news channels and some posters here like to portray.
Juan Clark
>copy pasta We're not as stupid as Americans apparently Why did you vote from Trump when he literally has proven nothing as a leader apart from being in a reality show
Just call him and inform de Vater that he is full of Shit. And that he should know better than make up stories for his son that make him seem better than the lying piece of shit that he is. Thanks.
And also similar to this BJP is a center right and holds hands with a hard right party. They can be lunatics sometimes, but them being elected just showed the extreme minority(mainly muslim) appeasement of the previous regime and downtrodding of the majority.
Mason Gutierrez
The Indian government is hostile to journalists and organizations which actively work against its interests. The problem is that many international media outlets, like CNN, employ citizen correspondents who cannot be deported or have visas rescinded.
Several years back, an Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) was deported and stripped of their citizenship for reporting on alleged human rights abuses in Kashmir; similarly, a Scandinavian academic was banned from re-entering the country after publishing material explicitly supportive of Maoist insurgents.
However, there isn't really anything the government can do to citizens reporting on India from India, aside from some extrajudicial tactics. But I don't really think that's likely to happen to journalists unless they're using coverage to target specific political parties or figures.
Caleb Hall
>Why can't they say anything nice about the countries?
The opposite is actually happening, its duterte that keep silencing the critics. What the western media shows is actually very petty compared to what corrupt bullshit he is really up to
Doesnt answer OP's question but this is true as well.
Daniel Turner
>kek, that's what I also heard. Things he is condemned for today was done in the past and nobody cared. I think it's just that these journalists have realized that the country is improved and their poverty porn cash cow is running dry so they need something more controversial+he's a threat to the establishment they are backing
Not to mention his links to big time chinese druglords are now being exposed, more and more people are coming out of hiding cause the have death threaths
oh fuck, tagfag is here Everybody call him a subhuman and hide his posts >imagine being so based as a President that you live rent free inside some brown subhuman's head to the point where he has a terrabyte of government-critical shitty memes and must whine about how much he hates you every single day
Shut the fuck up fag >unemployment has actually gone down since 2016 but hasn't changed that much over the years. Underemployment on the other hand has been reduced >corruption perception index has improved >propose how Marawi should have been liberated without getting destroyed >National debt is literally irrelevant as it's actually one of the lowest in the world >peso actually becoming the biggest gainer in Asia in 2019 >"Everything will go up!" Forex reserves is going down to pay for the BBB projects. It went up since 2010 because last admin underspent, which you probably think is a great thing >inflation has actually eased and a revolutionary legislature has been passed that will make rice shortage virtually impossible. Also implies "high" inflation is new to the Philippines and that the inflation Philippines faced was Venezuela tier >SSS rate has been increased to extend lifetime to 2035 for now. SSS has always had a definite lifetime >there has been no islands taken by China. Infact the admin has drawn a red line already with Pag-Asa. On the other hand, Scarborough shoal incident has eased. There was fabricated news that Chinese vessels have denied fishermen recently from entering Scarborough shoal >murder rate has gone down. Some BoC employees are guilty for what has happened but atleast we can now see some is caught unlike before where such findings were seldom reported >Peter Lim is actually being manhunted since August and threatened by the President. It's ironic because Reddit will whine about EJKs yet they demand some sort of extra judicial justice towards Peter Lim without probe >factually wrong. Only leftists and some students protested martial law in Mindanao. Most people in Mindanao is indifferent to Martial law and some even welcome it. Sources: ask someone from Mindanao fag >not anymore after the Rice Tariffication bill
Wyatt Butler
Yeah it gets worse. Even the rice tariffs(poor farmers) and now the lack of water supply.
The Philippines is also one of the most protectionist places in the world from foreign ownership.
Congress is swiftly moving to amend that with laws. They are bordering towards "constitutionally questionable". Most of these amendments would really open up the country.
The country is one of the most ripe for an economic miracle. All the countries that opened up their economies experienced economic miracles.
inb4 Manila Water Crisis as it's the concessionaire's fault for not warning about it before it was too late, but the Kaliwa Dam is long overdue and was propossed 2 decades ago. Oh no, faggot. Can't use your reddit meme to back up your rent free hatred of the most based Pres in the world?
It's even beyond me why you somehow seem to have nothing against the irregular impeachment of CJ Corona. It's too obvious who you root for
Caleb Young
They dont even focus on this in our media MATRIX AND SUMMARY OF DIGONG’S CORRUPTION ACTIVITIES IN DAVAO CITY (1/3)
• In 2007, the Davao City Government under Mayor Rodrigo Duterte procured garbage cans for P200 Million. The small garbage bin which City Hall bought from Duterte's favored supplier for P6,295 per piece would only cost P2,199 at local Department Stores and Hardware. The bigger bins which Duterte bought for P11,000 a piece is only worth 5,150 if purchased from Department Stores and Hardware.
• In 1996 the Davao City government under Mayor Rodrigo Duterte built a two-story Sangguniang Panlungsod building for P150-Million. During that same period, the management of the nearby Apo View Hotel has built a nine-story building that only cost P140 Million. How can a two-story government building be more expensive than a nine-story hotel?
• In 2007, Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte decided to demolish Davao City's only sports facility called the Kapitan Tomas Monteverde Sports Center and built a "tree park" instead. For simple concrete walkways and trees that were planted in a 7-hectare lot, the Davao City government had to spend P87 Million! With that amount, you can already reforest an entire mountain!
• Based on Commission on Audit's annual report from December 31, 2003, up to 2007, Mayor Duterte and the City Council headed by his daughter Sara have yet to account for P2.9 Billion worth of equipment and properties which were procured by the City Hall. The COA reported that a colossal 82% of Davao City Hall's declared assets valued at P2,933,909,784.17 could not be ascertained because of the failure of the city government to conduct physical count and for failure to prepare and submit a report of such physical count.
(2/3) • Based on the 2008 audit report by COA, the Davao City government collected some P180-million for Special Education Fund. The amount is a percentage of the real estate taxes being collected by City Hall from businessmen and real property owners. SEF is required by law to help public schools. Instead of using the money solely for improving public school facilities, Duterte spent nearly P11 Million in just one month for lavish restaurant parties and groceries. COA revealed that for just one month, City Hall used the SEF to pay Ayang Food Caterer (P975,000), Yellow Fin Seafoods & Restaurant (P487,000), Lola Maming Restaurant & Catering Services (P487,000), Metro Plaza (P1,603,660) and NCCC (P7.8-million). That 11 Million would have been enough to build 22 new classrooms by then.
• In 2000, Duterte claims that he only had P2Million in assets in his Statement of Assets Liabilities and Net worth. His registered income was his salary as mayor and part owner of the Honda showroom in General Santos City. That was the time when the marriage of Duterte and his wife Elizabeth Zimmerman. But in 2007, upon their entry into politics, his son Paolo declared in his SALN that had P20 Million and Sarah also had P18M. Both were jobless before they decided to enter politics. When asked where they got their money, Sarah said in public debate that they got the money by way of the so-called advance legitim (inheritance) as a result of the annulment of their parents' marriage. So how can Duterte, whose net worth 7 years before was only 2 Million, raise a minimum of P38 Million which was shared by Sarah and Paolo as part of their inheritance from their father?
Just stop replying to him. No matter how much he gets BTFO, He just spams his anti-duterte memes until you stop replying and he "proclaims victory"
Robert Cruz
(3/3)
• In 1994, San Miguel Corporation wanted to put up a big brewery in Davao City. This would have generated thousands of employment for the people of Davao. However, SMC decided to relocate in the adjoining town of Sta. Cruz, Davao del Sur because of alleged extortion by members of the city council. Duterte was not named in the attempted extortion but as mayor, he simply looked the other way and never reprimanded the members of the City Council, all of whom are his political allies. Extortion has become a normal practice among members of the City council particularly the so-called DLBM Gang who are all staunch allies of Mayor Duterte.
• In 2008, the entire City Council then headed by daughter Sarah was rocked by a payoff scandal involving a property developer Interbev Philippines Davao which allegedly paid P300,000 to secure a zoning approval. The issue generated a lot of public uproars that Sarah admitted publicly that there was indeed an attempt to bribe the city council. The tough-talking Duterte was silent all throughout and never took any action even just to investigate the issue.
• In 2006 his son Paolo Duterte managed to corner the city's advertising contract for all of Davao City's center islands. Paolo's Genesis Advertising which is co-owned by his smuggling partner Glen Escandor was able to secure the advertising deal for FREE! Under the agreement, the Genesis Advertising was allowed to build and operate decorative lamps with advertisement spaces purposely for the Asian Tourism Forum in 2006 at no cost to the city government but they would be given the option to maintaining these ad spaces even after the event. If Duterte becomes President, the entire stretch of EDSA will be filled with Paolo Duterte's advertising decorative lamps. Cool!
current water supply crisis in Metro Manila might be planned by the administration to get some China-backed infrastructure projects going, and that report from PAGASA that says it's not El Niño that's causing the water shortage--
I did some reading and learned that the government has been aggressively pushing for the construction of the dam last year. Xi Jinping has already signed off on the loan during his state visit in November 2018.
This, despite concerns about the Chinese debt trap, the irreversible damage the dam will bring to the ancestral domain of the native Dumagat-Remontado tribe, and the threat to biodiversity in the Sierra Madre area.
Why not consider other water sources, instead of destroying lives and nature and getting us deeper into Chinese debt with this project? Also, why do I feel like the water shortage crisis is just their way to encourage the public to support this project?
negative news always get more traction than positive news
Joshua Hernandez
>cheaper rice+P10b fund tbad >QR that has caused rice in Philippines to be twice as expensive as Thai and Vietnamese rice good
>corruption perception index has improved >he actually believe the BS spouted by Pork Barrel addict Andaya oh fuck you can't be this retarded >"CLTG Builders stood out in PCIJ’s research because all of its joint-venture projects with big contractors in 2017 failed to complete projects by the original deadline. With just a B license, the firm could not have implemented the big-ticket projects it won in 2017 without having a partner." >still unironically believing a person with graft-charges and close ally of "muh corrupt female president" >Teo stuff is the only factual shit you have mentioned so far >cognitive dissonance >can't comment on Revilla( or GMA), but it's a case of the judicial system in the Philippines >believing in Trillanes spreadsheets which he constantly brings up but does nothing further about it >shelving projects is completely normal in a society. Lot's of money goes to waste because of that, and has nothing to do with corruption
that's the thing. Philippines somehow have massive growth and yet hasn't realized the potential growth that comes with foreign investment influx
approved by NEDA. Just like almost all the PPP projects, there wasn't much news about it past the bidding happening in September 2015, most likely because it stalled at bureaucracy and dealing with residents that will get displaced.
Jeremiah Stewart
Sadly the Japanese one was better But Duterte need the chinese kickback money.
>This, despite concerns about the Chinese debt trap, the irreversible damage the dam will bring to the ancestral domain of the native Dumagat-Remontado tribe, and the threat to biodiversity in the Sierra Madre area. holy shit the cognitive dissonanceBesides grow up manbabby, the GDP, budget and growth of those countries falling into debt traps are fraction of that of Philippines'
Kek, literally banned a song by some dude on the internet because muh hurt feelings
Nathaniel Sanchez
>He said the 600 million liters of the Kaliwa Dam can be “expanded to about 2400 million liters per day.” On the other hand, the Japan proposal has a maximum of 550 million liters.
>“On the raw water conveyance tunnel capacity, the (China-funded) Kaliwa Dam provides 2400 million liters per day capacity, designed to accommodate additional raw water,” Velasco said.
>He also explained that the China-funded dam will have a conveyance tunnel 27.7 kilometers long which will connect it to treatment that will be built in in the town of Teresa, or Antipolo City. The one proposed by the Japanese firm is only 16 kilometers long and with a delivery point in Tanay.
>“From Tanay you need another conveyance tunnel to bring it to Antipolo or Teresa. That’s the reason why it would seem it is cheap,” Velasco said.
Do you have autism btw? I might look like an assburger but I really have nothing in my life right now so it's fun playing with this monkey
Ryder Diaz
>They never mention anything about how many people have moved out of poverty, how great the economies are booming, inspirational stories of people who faced struggle before but live a good life today? They do, but they also point out what these countries are lacking in order to guarantee an actual improvement or success. >Why can't they say anything nice about the countries? They also say nice things to both of these countries. But you can't get angry at journalists for spewing shit of any emerging economy when rape and murder, along with shit infrastructure, are common. You can also argue that there is some agenda being pushed in here, but I pretty much think that both India's and Philipines' case is nothing out of the ordinary.
For some context, GUDC, a Japanese corporation, wanted the government to
revisit a safer and cheaper option to increase water supply to Metro Manila that will tap the same resources under a Chinese-funded dam project. But Metropolitan Waterworks and Sewerage System (MWSS) Administrator Reynaldo Velasco said the PH-China deal on Kaliwa Dam is a "done deal."
"Ito ay na-bid na, gagawin na. Hindi na yan pupuwede, lalong made-delay. Naka-commit na ang gobyerno. Nagkapirmahan na tayo. This is a done deal," he said.
410m Japan vs 880m China which is an ODA and a loan is a huge rip-off.
It's already obvious who just want us to drown in debt.
Hmmm. I wonder where that extra $470m is going to end up?
Hunter Wright
Having that many politics memes ready to fire up is just pathetic no matter what way you put it.
I never even voted for him but people like you are such virulent assholes and crab mentally incarnates. So much so that I don't care what he does, I'll support Duterte just to spite people like you.
Bentley Sanders
Seems like there are multiple accusations of the Dutere clan either being involved with drugs, linked to drug lords or protecting drug lords.
Where there is smoke there is always fire.
Here we have the President basically demanding to kill this guy.
hey tagfag, I actually took my time to read all this. It turns out that all of this is literally a copy-paste from SilentNoMorePH's Facebook page, and I have actually tried to look up all allegations. I actually tried really hard because I am have debater persnality and really want to be proven wrong so I can reflect my current opinions, but I found absolutely no results at all. No articles from that time, no throwback from recent articles, sadly. :( Sorry, but this is what is also known as "libel". Lot's of these allegations are from local elections by Nograles, where let's be fair, all local elections are filled with baseless claims so that a candidate can get more voter's leverage.
Btw that second picture is totally irrelevant as TRAIN was never supposed to pay of debt. It's supposed to improve tax collection and at the same time increase tax revenue by around P100 billion. One doesn't pay off all debt in a year. That's what debt is: spending money you don't have yet at hand.
Mason Ross
>Japan proposal max 550 million liters >China proposal 600 million liters, possibly expanded to 2400 million liters >Japan's conveyance tunnel just half that of China's please explain why Japan has bagged most of the infra deals if this president only favors China.
The whole conspiracy theory about the water crisis shows that you will latch onto anything as long as it's anti-establishment with no regard for integrity whatsoever.
Brayden Powell
I think alot of these is from the commison of audit COA, finding some anomlaies.
The question is why not use PPP instead of ODA from China?
Why not use tax revenues raised from TRAIN to fund some projects over Chinese ODA which involve lots of concessions?
Take the current water crisis:
"The Aquino administration had been slow to act, but they left the Kaliwa Dam project with two prequalified bidders for a PPP venture. The Duterte administration, however, changed the mode to China funding and nothing has moved yet. "
I get sad when I see pics of protests like these. Because most of them are indigenous people who are actually exploited by the NPA and are politically powerless to have differing opinions. Their tribe leaders are often extorted to support NPA, thus they have no other choice but to stand for the NPA.
>Jose Barera, alias Gegs, 47, a Hanunuo tribal leader, was found floating on the Tumalo River at Sitio Liberty, Barangay Naibuan, San Jose with multiple gunshot wounds in the body. >His brother Boy Barrera identified the body and said a group of about seven NPA gunmen, some of them amazons, forcibly took Jose from their house on Friday afternoon. Jose’s wife and six children were crying and begged the terrorists to spare their father’s life, but were instead threatened that they would be shot. >According to his brother, the victim was tortured due to his defiance to support candidates favored by the NPAs and for and wanting to live a normal life.
nop, I actually looked up on all the COA arguments, using different keywords. Nada. The only results I got was accusations by Nograles during campaigning. If any of these were even somewhat true, I assume you'd see Rappler and Inquirer spam their headlines with these alleged COA findings
Luke Phillips
As a disillusioned former government employee, this doesn't surprise me. Because it's all the same kickback modus but on a grander scale.
The reason the government is pushing for this isn't water: it's money. Billions of Chinese money. It's an open secret that not all of the funds will go to actually building the dams and other infra: a portion of that will go as kickbacks to politicians who have a say in the project, from the kapitan of the barangay where the dam will be built way up to good ol' Tatay Digs. DPWH pa lang tiba-tiba na. And that doesn't include the bribes from third-party contractors that will handle the misc. tasks of the project.
So yeah, this dam thing has to be pushed. Or else the money won't materialize, and that would be especially bad for certain people who have already made certain promises especially with a certain election coming soon.
Lincoln Ross
PPP projects move very slowly because government bureaucracy plays a huge role in them. That's a primary reason why ODA is preferred now. Previous admin had 6 years and their infra-projects were mostly PPP. Yet almost no PPP project were even started during these 6 years. ODA on the other hand moves much faster because it's mostly the bidder who takes on most of the project rather than the slow bureaucracy of Philippines. The only exception is Right of Way acquisition which is something only Philippine nationals are permitted to do. I cannot comment on the speed of the Chinese ODA projects(some are supposed to start construction in Q2 2019) but the Japanese ones are moving ahead and the Manila-Malolos railway is already starting construction.
>As a disillusioned former government employee, as a son of a Nintendo-employee, stop samefagging and larping as someone else
Interesting so japan followed the proper water litter capacity while chinks just wanted some extra for extra money.
Daniel Lewis
Most PPP porjects are inked and done deal already with Aquino/Japan those are the infra projects that you will mostly see prop up. Unless they get delayed again with chinese and duterte medeling.
Connor Diaz
>It is when your arguments are complete bullshit. The hipocrisy of it all posting anti manila anti tagalog bullshit.
>The whole conspiracy theory about the water crisis shows that you will latch onto anything as long as it's anti-establishment. When bullshit is bullshit i dont care if it duterte or it hurts your feelings. It is what it is, it did check out for the most part china got its way.
Ryan Hall
>mfw perufag is the only one here who gets it.
Gabriel Flores
>"From a public-private partnership however, the project will now be financed through the Official Development Assistance with China funding 85 percent of the P12.2 billion project cost, contrary to reports by CNN and media that the Kaliwa Dam’s Project will cost USD 800 million or P42.1 billion."
>Most PPP porjects are inked and done deal already with Aquino/Japan those are the infra projects that you will mostly see prop up. No contract was signed, bro. All JICA projects are undertaken by Japanese bidders. Bicol railway Btw, you are not correct that the Kaliwa dam was originally supposed to be undertaken by Japanese firms. There was a Japanese firm that submitted a proposal in 2009, the same one which resubmitted it now. But nothing came out of it back then >"Original PPP route estimated to cost 18+ Billion was only finalized around 2013-14, in fact Pre Bidding qualification was only completed Nov 2015 and actual Bidding Process never pushed forward." That's why it changed to ODA because it was basically a "dead" PPP
I think the dude is a Manileyno.
Julian Gutierrez
>It is what it is, it did check out for the most part china got its way. kek brain malfunctioning. This sentence literally makes no sense
additinal info. The 2 pre-qualified bidders were Filipino companies >"In 2014, the Kaliwa Dam project was initially rolled out as a PPP project, with two qualifying bidders for the project: the SMC-K Water Consortium (San Miguel Holdings Corp. and Korea Water Resources Corp.) and the Abeima-Datem Consortium (Albeinsa Infraestructura Medio Ambiento S.A and Datem Inc.)."
It underwent public bidding under a private partnership framework via NEDA. It actually got delayed due to environmental concerns and conflicts with the indigenous people living within the proposed site. The bidding went to megawide
But once Duterte came into power, the public bidding was scrapped in favor of the Build, Build, Build program financed by China's Belt and Road Initiative.
at least it was under public bidding which had oversight from the CoA and the Ombudsman (and during the Carpio-Morales era that wasn't a joke). Now the Duterte admin is literally conniving with Beijing to get the money with virtually no questions asked (which we definitely shouldforeignpolicy.com/2018/12/06/bri-china-belt-road-initiative-blunder/) and no safeguards in place.
Carson Ortiz
>Putting up a lower dam which would allow river to flow also ensures the safety of nearby communities, GUDC vice president for business George Campos explained.
>Campos said their project does not pose environmental threats as this will be constructed far from the fault line. No one will be displaced or inundated since the water level would only increase by seven meters, below the residential area.
>GUDC will also pay for the whole of construction. All it needs is a go signal from the Philippine government
Its practically for free with Japan and alot more safe since the dam will be lower
Ryan Long
no, read again. It got 2 qualified bidders. Big difference from winning bidder. Now you're just grasping for straws and making shit up. Even the article you posted says MegaWide "WILL bid" not that they won the bid. I am doubting the Philippines has the highest literacy rates in developing Asia now. >In 2014, the Kaliwa Dam project was initially rolled out as a PPP project, with two --------------------------->QUALIFYING BIDDERSIts practically for free with Japan and alot more safe since the dam will be lower No it will cost P21.6 billion and is more of a short term solution, and progress sadly comes at sacrifice. These indigenous people would. We had the same problem here in Norway decades ago where Samis had to be displaced from their ancestral ground due to the construction of the Alta dam.
Brayden Richardson
based, pedophilia needs protection
Henry Williams
Not a fan of this filipino immigrant posting propaganda with a Norwegian flag, ill be honest with you.
Hudson Morgan
I am actually Norwegian I do try to bring factual arguments and struggle to go from a discussion as I am cursed with ENTP
>We cannot understand why MWSS wants such high dam, we need only 600 MLD (million liters per day). It does not make common sense," GUDC chief operating officer Toshikazu Nomura said.
Looks like the chink dam is going to be a disaster that we have to pay for for years to come.
Parker Cox
The one with Japan will cost 410 mil plus with safety precussions for long term use. Looking at the CNN articles Chinks will cost 800 mil with the risk of flooding the residents which mean more slums in the city ugh.
Hunter Sanchez
Oh my God, learn to read. MegaWide was INTERESTED in bidding. Nothing ever said they even became a prequalified bidder. Only SMC-K Water Consortium and Abeima-Datem Consortium became qualified bidders. Had the bidding occured(which it didn't), only either of them would win. Are you a MegaWide shill or something? >Chinks will cost 800 mil with the risk of flooding the residents which mean more slums in the city ugh. grasping for straws. Can you please disclose what makes the Japanese dam safe and the Chinese one not? Even this dam is living rent free in you
Benjamin Kelly
Everything is already on the CNN articles wtf Although Megawides bidding seems sleazy for buying it outright
