Is holocaust denial legal in your country?

Is holocaust denial legal in your country?

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Nope. It's even punished by jail time.

Illegal.

We dont have free speech

Most likely not it's illegal to make references to Nazis , so u can't even play Erika in front of a lefty

>I want it to be legal to deny the holocaust

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It's not directly forbidden by law, but case law has clarified that holocaust denial falls under the same legal clause that forbids hurting the feelings of groups. Yes, the same legal clause under which Wilders was judged for asking his supporters whether they wanted more or less Moroccans in the Netherlands.

Sometimes it really does feel like America is the only place that actually has free speech.

why do yanks hate freedom so much?

>The truth? Why, the truth is whatever the government tells me the truth it. It's not as if the truth is a lion that can defend itself, and it's ridiculous to believe governments ever lied to their people. I trust my government!

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How could I deny something that never happened?

*Ahem*
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FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK GYPSIES
FUCK SOVIETS
FUCK ALLIED FORCES

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NEVER SHOULD'VE SURRENDERED

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I genuinely have no idea. I'm gonna assume it's not legal considering we saved the jews that were living here.

He's probably from commiefornia or jew york

Yes, I don't live in a third world police state

Mocking the Holocaust victims is illegal in Spain. Denying the Holocaust itself is not specifically adressed in the Spanish criminal code.

>wtf do you mean we killed 6 million jews there's no way, you must be a kike if you think otherwise
>of course the government would push a false narrative, they're owned by the jews!1!!

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We don't have any laws regarding it even though we're apparently a nanny state

>Noooo! You can't allow dissenting opinions, what if people start believing the wrong thing?!
>The truth has never floated to the top because of discourse and the measuring of arguments, the truth is victorious because the government outlaws all other opinions!

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Don't worry, there is a "shocking" amount of people in the UK who have the wrong opinion so I'm sure Comerade Corbachev will outlaw it soon enough.

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Technically not but I doubt anyone gives a fuck.

>the holocaust didn't happen

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No, it's actually encouraged

Anything regarding nazi shit should be illegal.

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JIDF aren't even trying to be subtle anymore lmao

Why?

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I wouldn't deny it myself and I believe only creeps and retards would do it but I think it's a problem to condemn them for that.
History is supposed to be a science. If there are some things you are not allowed to say, you put a restraint to research.

No such thing as Holocaust. Hitler's achievement are more highlighted here like das auto, fashions and economic upturned.

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He's a nigger/jew

Ask him why Communism isn't illegal, when it killed more people.

When did I say that, bitch? Quote me denying the holocaust once. Just because I believe it happened does not mean I believe the government should be allowed to dictate what happened, nor that it should punish dissenters.

If you're retarded enough to push the "hurr durr the government should tell us what's right" narrative then you have to justify why anti-vaxx or flat earth isn't illegal. Or why criticizing the government in general shouldn't be illegal in China, because why would the arbiters of the truth be flawed?

Good job betraying the founding principles of your republic. This is why I hate what your country has become.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_of_the_Citizen#Articles
>Article IV – Liberty consists of doing anything which does not harm others: thus, the exercise of the natural rights of each man has only those borders which assure other members of the society the fruition of these same rights.
Long story short, a proper liberal government does not have the right to forbid that which does not infringe on the rights of others. No, feelings are not rights.

This. France has a literal Socialist Party, a literal Communist Party and one of its overly powerful (and legally empowered) labor unions is downright communist. At least Americans are non-hypocrites and has a Nazi Party of America. Nobody fucking votes for them (luckily) but it exists and they have the right to collude and run for elections.

Not a jew and whiter than you, mongoloid. Holocaust denial is for brainlets.

>This. France has a literal Socialist Party, a literal Communist Party and one of its overly powerful (and legally empowered) labor unions is downright communist. At least Americans are non-hypocrites and has a Nazi Party of America. Nobody fucking votes for them (luckily) but it exists and they have the right to collude and run for elections.

Holy shit shut the fuck up retard... you don't know shit

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C'est vrai, cependant.

>Socialist Party, a literal Communist Party

Alerte au gogol

Allowing people to say the holocaust didn't happen or implying that the government not allowing people to deny the holocaust is suppressing "truth" as you put it is the same as denying the holocaust.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Communist_Party
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Confederation_of_Labour_(France)

One of the most detestable qualities of the French people is their inability to take any form of criticism, preferring to deny the truth over denying their flaws.

Explain.

If you can't dress in an SS uniform, open carry a rifle, and deny the holocaust on a bullhorn out in public, are you really free?

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If you can't advocate fascism while complaining about lack of free speech, you're not really free

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>One of the most detestable qualities of the French people is their inability to take any form of criticism, preferring to deny the truth over denying their flaws.
Would you say one might gradually come to hate them?

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No it's illegal. And that's possible because things that are proven wrong don't fall under the protection of freedom of speech

Yes, but most people in NZ know that you're crazy if you deny the holocaust.

Oh l'autre est con mais ferme un peu ta gueule le batave.
Balaie devant ta porte avant de nous emmerder.

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But yeah go ahead and post those ever changing numbers?
2 million? 4.3? or maybe just ONE?

Which will he pick....

*drum roll please....*

>Ask him why Communism isn't illegal, when it killed more people.

Can you prove gulags existed? Or that they weren't holiday camps? Remember: testimonies aren't worth anything, like for the holocaust. Also can you show me the bodies? Of course you can't, and if commies tried to starve everyone then why there are still russians hhmmm? My opinion is that a few people died due to bad planning and that "the dead of communism" is just propaganda.
>muh holohoax
>muh 50 billions

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Antisemitism is legal in my country, "Jew" is used frequently as an insult.
The holocaust isn't even taught in our history classes, even though WW1 & WW2 are mandatory teaching through middle and highschool

Mass graves, faggot, the skulls are counted.
Also prison transfer documents, DUMMY.

Smelly garlic Jew.

>The truth? Why, the truth is whatever the government tells me the truth it. It's not as if the truth is a lion that can defend itself, and it's ridiculous to believe governments ever lied to their people. I trust my government!
>Noooo! You can't allow dissenting opinions, what if people start believing the wrong thing?!
>The truth has never floated to the top because of discourse and the measuring of arguments, the truth is victorious because the government outlaws all other opinions!
Such language about holocaust denial laws are more or less the same as denying the holocaust.

Ok show me 100 millions skulls, cuck

>Also prison transfer documents

Forged, obviously

Go fight for Israel in the Middle-East, GOY.

You do realize I'm not carrying them in my fucking inventory you crypto-commie Jew?

>Forged, obviously
now apply that logic to the Holohoax, nigger.

>the what-o-caust?

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>now apply that logic to the Holohoax, nigger.

That's exactly what deniers do

Show me the 100 billions skulls or it didn't happen

Lmao are you a gymnast?
Because your mental gymnastics are out of this world.

Oh I see you don't have proofs then
>muh 100 trillions

I don't know but I doubt it if there are any laws that punishes it. Most people don't care about The Holocaust since it never affects their life and mostly know it as "Oh that was when the Germans kill the Jews" event.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_graves_from_Soviet_mass_executions

Mass graves in the Soviet Union were used for the burial of mass numbers of citizens and foreigners executed by the government of the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin.[1] These mass killings were carried out by the security organisations, such as the NKVD, and reached their peak in the Great Purge of 1937–38.

List of mass graves

Following the demise of the USSR in 1991, many of the killing and burial sites were uncovered,[2][3][4] one as recently as 2010.[5]

Bykivnia Graves – containing an estimated 30,000[6]–225,000 corpses[7]
Kurapaty – At least 50,000 with considerably higher estimates in the Soviet press[8]
Toksovo, near Saint Petersburg – 30,000 killed[9]
Butovo – over 20,000 confirmed killed[10]
Yekaterinburg – 18,000 executed and buried
Communarka – about 10,000 killed [11]
Sandarmokh – over 9,000 bodies discovered[12]
Kolpashevo – over 1,000 bodies discovered in 1979, and then disposed of on instruction of the local party chief.[13]
In the areas near Kiev alone, there are mass graves in Uman, Bila Tserkva, Cherkasy and Zhytomyr.[14]
Katyn massacre
Vinnytsia massacre – 9,432 corpses exhumed[15]
In July 2010, a mass grave was discovered at St. Petersburg, which contained the corpses of 80 military officers executed during the Bolshevik Red Terror of 1918–21.[16]
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Based

EXtremely based

The most based post in the thread

>Allowing people you disagree with to speak their mind is the same as agreeing with them
ok retard

>denying the truth is the same as disagreeing or agreeing on an issue

I think so. Even if it wasn't, cops don't give a shit about imaginary crimes. Same shit as piracy.

Lol no
What kind of cuck nation would allow the Jews to fuck them so hard to make that illegal?

Thought OP said illegal to deny
So yes, it is legal to deny it, because freedom of speech

>wikipedia
lmao
Founders of wikipedia:
>Jimmy Wales
>Larry Sanger
>Ward Cunningham
>Richard Stallman

All americans. Coincidence? I think not, but you're free to believe western propaganda, you cuck

>Would you say one might gradually come to hate them?
I know what you're referring to, but unironically less. The more I love the country, the more I despise the people who live in it, pollute it, ruin it, drag it down and riot against everyone who even remotely tries to improve it. A popular joke here is "France is a beautiful country, such a shame about the French" and now I more and more realize the truth behind that joke. The country would be great if it weren't inhabited by the most arrogant and entitled people this side of the Urals.

No laws explicitly prohibit holocaust denial.

We are a free country after all.

Also, the soviets were right about invading finland, they did for security reason. Source: soviet propaganda, and propaganda is a valid source since nazi apologists consider nazi propaganda the truth.

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How is ww1 taught? Are we still the bad guy?

>Ask him why Communism isn't illegal, when it killed more people.
Same reason capitalism isn't illegal, despite having killed a lot more.

Yes

9/11 was a real holocaust because a lot of people were holocausted ( which means burnt offering in jewish) to the devil by the dancing bizraelis

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I hope you aren't capitalist because otherwise, you shouldn't have any problem with ruining and polluting shit.

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>Markets free from government intervention kill people
Really makes me go "Hmmmm... wait a second, that doesn't add up!"

>I hope you aren't capitalist
Of course you'd hope that.

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>A popular joke here is "France is a beautiful country, such a shame about the French"

Please tell us more boomer jokes, those are hilarious

No, it's taught in a neutral "Industrial revolution made the war inevitable" kind of fashion, but you're the bad guys in WW2.
But it really depends on the teacher, I remember my 1st HS year teacher making a fake Hitler quote about Jews and then switching to discuss Israel's war crimes
"I could've exterminated all of the Jews but I left some of them alive for the world to see how vile they truly are" - Hitler, something along these lines

imagine calling yourself a free country while also making holocaust denial illegal

BASED

based

Americans... sure.

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>>Markets free from government intervention kill people
>Really makes me go "Hmmmm... wait a second, that doesn't add up!"
Oh really?
I guess nobody ever died because the ""free market"" put a price on his medicine or food that he couldn't pay.
And most importantly, not many people die in capitalist regimes. Because those don't wage wars, don't sponsor coup d'etats, don't genocide and don't imprison political dissidents.
Guantanamo doesn't exist, Chile and bay of pigs never happened, the Iraq/Afghanistan/Whateverstan war was purely on terror, etc. etc. .

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>"I could've exterminated all of the Jews but I left some of them alive for the world to see how vile they truly are" - Hitler, something along these lines
Gosh, i hope Jow Forumstards will never see this.

Then why'd you post it

Yes

Oh so you agree what is on wikipedia can't be trusted, meaning that this post can be completely ignored

yes. holocaust never happened

Yes, There is freedom of speech and press after all.

But doesn't that mean that you agree that what is on wikipedia can't be trusted, meaning that the lie which is the Holocaust can be completely ignored?

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Imagine being unable to deny a historical event

If it is illegal you should just organize to simply.not mention or reply to.anything mentioning it.

Absolutely based and redpilled
Lapland War worst day of my life

absolutely fucking based

>I guess nobody ever died because the ""free market"" put a price on his medicine or food that he couldn't pay.
Alright, then present a viable alternative. If you present a better and functional alternative to curing the ill or feeding the hungry, then I'll instantly advocate for it. The problem is that all presented alternatives have failed.

>And most importantly, not many people die in capitalist regimes.
Compared to the alternatives, a lot less. Your odds of survival in America were always greater than in the Soviet Union, even in peacetime.

>Because those don't wage wars
While some ideologies are more militant than others (pro-tip: capitalism isn't one of them, as it generally supports free trade between countries), war is in the end just an inevitable reality of life.

>don't sponsor coup d'etats
Again, political strategy unrelated to ideology. You want allies and coups are great way to rob enemies of allies while winning one for yourself.

>don't genocide and don't imprison political dissidents.
Generally liberal regimes don't do that, no. Liberalism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin (hence the saying the freer the markets, the freer the people).

>Guantanamo doesn't exist, Chile and bay of pigs never happened, the Iraq/Afghanistan/Whateverstan war was purely on terror, etc. etc. .
That's criticism of policy, not of the free market model itself. In fact, the only viable criticism you've offered is that certain medication is too expensive and people who can't afford food don't eat. I still ask you to present a more viable alternatives, because all attempted alternatives were far more horrible than the problem they tried to remedy.

>Imagine being unable to deny a historical event
Imagine misinformation being an integral part of your country

there were less than 3 million juice in Europe back in the Adolf days, so that makes the hall of cost 6 billion not a credible claim
Moreover an oven needs hours to cremate a single person so its not feasible that they were gassed, burned and shit.

Moreover if i were given the means i would build the world largest oven and toss every single jew there, personally.

Thankfully this will never happen because God already devised a giant oven,furnace-like lake of fire that will have not only every jew but also every pagan, occultist, which and all other scum of the earth that hates God and hates thte truth in there. As we read in the bible
>And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
The good news is that the oven burns forever and the jews will burn forever there which is nice since if they burned up and were dead it wouldn't be enough of a satisfaction, so they will burn forever and ever.
Thats the real holocaust and the real oven.

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Why are you such a retarded christian larper?

no one cares about the holocaust or the nazis here

>Imagine believing biased shit that the winners wrote.
Do you also believe that gods descended and created Japan? Do you believe men are made from corn? That the world is 5000 years old?

Everything is up to debate. You can't know the truth, only those who lived it can know, nobody else. All we can do is believe things happened according to remains and artifacts which also can be modified, counterfeited or presented in an erroneous way. If you can believe these things, disbelief in them are also part of the process, and only when confronting both views you can choose to believe what happened. And so I have all the right to say the holocaust didn't happen.

You see, I can say El Mozote massacre and El Sumpul massacre happened in my country. Can you deny them from what you know?

yeah

>Alright, then present a viable alternative.
Government intervention to provide basic services to the whole population. Basic services include healthcare, education, elderly care and affordable food/rent.
Corporations will push for as much profit as they can and they don't give a fuck if you die or not.
But because they're greedy, if you forcibly restrict their profit to 5-10% of their current one, they'd still take it and remain on the market rather than close up because they can't profiteer enough.

>The problem is that all presented alternatives have failed.
Not really. Look at Sweden and Norway, Finland, etc. .

>Compared to the alternatives, a lot less. Your odds of survival in America were always greater than in the Soviet Union, even in peacetime.
India, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria are all capitalist, and same for Mexico, Brazil, etc. . While Norway and Sweden are socialist-like (not even communist). If you compare the chances of survival between those, it's not even funny, even if you include US in the group.
Even a backasswards tiny pisspoor blockaded island, Cuba, has lower infant mortality rates than US, and US is supposed to be the best capitalism has to offer? Insane.

>all the other points being about policy
Same applies for socialism or communism. You can't attribute the bad things that happened in socialist/communist ruled countries to the economic doctrine, but to the specific policies of those governments.

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>there were less than 3 million juice in Europe back in the Adolf days

What's the point of pulling shit out of your ass like this? Poland alone had 3 millions jews at the time

Yeah

> Can you deny them from what you know?

He can because proofs don't matters

My backyard alone has more than 3 million juice.

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>Is holocaust denial legal in your country?
The law is ''denying genocide and ethnic cleansing''. Holocaust would fit. Same goes for Armenian genocide and Communist genocide.

basierend

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