There's literally no good argument against open borders

>literally advocating eugenics in the 21st century
You mean we're too far gone to save the human species now?

not necessarily pro-eugenics, just anti-dysgenics. sure, you could call that a weaker form of eugenics

Opening borders allows American and English cultural imperialism to become more pervasive.

If it is open it defeats the purpose of having borders, nationalities, and citizenship. In that case open the world to everyone.

>Migrants are for cheap labor. Cheap labor is for profit of big corporations.
Pretty much all of society profits from the most basic services not costing half a house.

It may raise the (((GDP))) but there much more important things in life than economic growth

For example preservation of language, culture, traditions, and ethnic heritage all of which are destroyed by immigration

Not to mention immigration only benefits the rich look at Toronto or Hongcouver they are the most globalized cities in Canada are are incredibly expensive gentrified identityless consumerist hellscapes

Quebec is a far better city to live. Trust me.

when will we open the borders to north sentinel island?

>eugenics are bad because... euhm.... retards with an IQ of 80 like me are fun to have around too xD

There exist multiple cultures, many of which cannot coexist. Multiculturalism has never worked and never will. That alone is reason enough not to open borders.

It doesn' work like this.
If you can pay for some service that much - you will pay for this service that much - and capitalist will take the difference between how much it cost to him and how much he can take for it from you.
Mostly like this. Did price of services became much lower, since migrants arrived to western countries?

that's not really a good argument because every metric proves otherwise
that's why wages haven't grown in 40 years
Also you're still arguing economics. There's more to a nation than money.

>Here are some good points as to why you shouldn't have open borders
>But ignore all that, because human beings have feelings, and corporations need cheaper labor
Yeah alright

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based. swing those doors right open lads

It creates more racism and social instability

Race mixing isnt dysgenic

I see Jow Forums hasn't overcome their anti-foreign bias. Watch this video for a quick economics lesson.

youtu.be/uXMnAPGY1uE

>muh IQ lol
How can people spend their whole lives believing exclusively pseudoscience and unproven half truth. I can't believe idiots like you are allowed to make decisions.

Wages always tend toward the lowest a capitalist has to pay you to keep you alive anyway.

t. tyrone smith-hernandez

The only country that should have open borders is Israel.

But criterias about "keeping alive" are different.
"Keeping alive" europeans and migrants are really two different things.
I think, it is because europeans are living in a more or less prosperous families and poverty don't do much pressure on them - they don't need work to be alive. So, without additional concurency, capitalists must raise wages, to make them work.

The reason Europeans get more money is because the third world picks up most of the slack.

kek, and as what would you like to LARP? Ye olde puritan anglo immigrant?

It's funny that people compain that multi-culturalism doesn't work, while it's the western countries that have no culture or ideology to offer. To what exactly should immigrants assimilate to? Milquetoast conservatives upholding dead customs with no idea what to do next? Nihilistic leftists? Western culture is a husk with no driving idea that could stand above Islam or tribalism that immigrants bring. In fact, West is telling those people that western civilization is no better than their own and they should keep their ways, so what we're talking about?

Also, if you think more people working around you makes you poorer you are a retard.

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racemixing = better health, physique and intellect
while all purebreds are sick and retarded

>Also, if you think more people working around you makes you poorer you are a retard.

Are you serious?
Imagine situation: you have a work with 1000 places and 1500 people and one owner of work. And 1000 of you are making some work, earning 1.5$ each, and capitalist gets 1000 of cookies and sell it for 2$ each to you and get 500$ to himself and for this 500$ he hire rest of people to scratch his heels.

Imagine you add to this system 1000 migrants more.
Now you immediately lower wages, and 1000 people will work for 1$, and owner of the work will take 1000$ of profit and will hire even more people to scratch his heels, because they will be cheaper.

Even if owner of the work will expand a bit - and there will be more workplaces - there also will be more people, to eat cookies, and balance in the end will depend of the many-many things, but in most cases it will be not profitable for workers (if we considering situation, where first workers weren't pressured by hunger and poverty too much - and new workers are pressured).

Here's an argument. if they keep going with this open borders, "no human is illegal" shit then White people are gonna start getting mad. It would be best for everyone if this doesn't happen!

White people should stop being mad.

We should genocide wh*teoids.

>muh human rights

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Also, how about those owners of bussiness, who wants migrants - would make some kind of deal with those exact migrants, they want to bring and governements - and then
1) Would pay for transferring and settlement of their migrants.
2) Would pay for integration and assimilation.
3) Would pay GIGANTIC penalties for every crime, their migrant commited(of course the migratnt himself would be put in jail also). Those penalties would include compensations to victims, payment for jail and judges and police, etc.
4) Basically would pay ALL government's spending, which are paid from people taxes now.

If migrants are really profitable for society - then owners of bussiness who need migrants definitely can do it - and still get profit.
Because as for now- society pays all this, and only owners of bussiness are getting profit - is it fair?

>racemixing = better health, physique and intellect

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You and people that make similar arguments conveniently forget that amount of wealth is not static. Current amount of wealth is result of X amount of work done and making X larger will make amount of wealth larger - and not linearly, since mass production cuts costs. Again - it is in your best interest to have more poeple doing more stuff around you.

Also your model is wrong since:
1. adding immigrant workforce presupposes that there is place for them
2. le evil corporation owners can't just take all new profits (at least in semi-free economy) since they would be outcompeted by people investing profits in more prodution, which drives prices down for everyone

No really OP, my argument is sincere. I believe that widespread extreme violence is an inevitable consequence of open borders. You tell me if that's worth some economic growth.

>Current amount of wealth is result of X amount of work done
>and making X larger will make amount of wealth larger
Second is wrong. All is depend of what type of work it is.

>1. adding immigrant workforce presupposes that there is place for them
Why? It is profitable for work-owners, to add migrants, even if there are no workplace for them, because they will be cheaper workers, than current ones.
>2. le evil corporation owners can't just take all new profits (at least in semi-free economy) since they would be outcompeted by people investing profits in more prodution, which drives prices down for everyone
Describe this process on example of simple model, please.

Also, again if this all is profitable for society - then why capitalist doesn't pay for THEIR costs of productions themself but put it on society

>There's literally no good argument against open borders.

White genocide.

He said arguments, not made up shit.

>I don't want people from the 2nd world and 3rd world coming to 1st world countries. Not because we're full or anything, we actually have plenty of room and could easily accommodate them, but rather because I want to deny them good lives and actively want them to suffer in their countries

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You must be dumb to not see it happening in your own country.

Was I born with a missing gene? I just don't understand the nativist mentality.

This but it's a refugee.

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>I just don't understand the nativist mentality.
You are either:
a) Woman
b) Faggot
c) Jew
d) Non-White

Because
1) High density of population makes people stop to want to make children.
2) Higher crime rates.
3) Interracial frictions. (Happens literally EVERYWHERE when there are many immigrants. Can lead to the different slaughers in the end, but VERY annoying even if it doesn't lead to it. Basically, very dangerous shit - why the fuck we must suffer - because bussiness need cheap labor, hah?)

Companies gain profit from sales. If profits would be eaten up too much by owners, other companies would use their profits to invest in production or lower prices in order to sell more, gaining more money and ruining competiton.

But this is possible if economy is free, not when it's controlled by politicians. This is another issue, since infamous giant corporation exist mostly because goverment involvement. Stimulus packages, profits from gov. programs, state-level infrastructure - goverment is effectively giving those corporations welfare.

As for This is just stupid. Immigrants coming to work are not the 2015 wave-type immigrants that cause trouble. Working migrants don't need gov spending for obvious reasons (and there shouldn't be gov spending for migrants anyway, but this is another topic).

>You are either:
>a) Woman
>b) Faggot
>c) Jew
>d) Non-White

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>Poland
Germans must've missed one.

I feel like this has some merit to it
White people have a long history of killing eachothers for whatever reasons
What is another bunch on top, that are just simply different skincolored and easier to alienate therefor