If not for gommunism, would Eastern Euro countries be first world by today?

If not for gommunism, would Eastern Euro countries be first world by today?

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Baltics, visehrad countries,Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro and maybe Bulgaria yes. Rest is more doubtful.

Why Montenegro and Bulgaria, yes but not Romania or Serbia?

Eastern EU members would be much closer to western EU members, but not quite as wealthy.

The Estonia - Croatia belt would be about as wealthy and developed as Spain/Italy, some countries would be like Finland (Slovenia, Czech Republic, Estonia.)

Bulgaria and Romania would be slightly behind, but still at least Portugal or Greece tier.

Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Albania, Serbia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Northern Macedonia would be Estonia tier.

Prague had the same wages as other European capitals before the war

Because he's a retard.
Countries near Germany like Checkia, Slovakia, Poland, or Austria like Slovenia, Croatia and Hungary would be wealthy.
Balkan would still be a shithole.

>Bulgaria and Romania would be slightly behind, but still at least Portugal or Greece tier.

Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Albania, Serbia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Northern Macedonia would be Estonia tier.
I mixed up these two. Bulgaria and Romania would be Estonia tier, the rest Portugal/Greece tier.

Greece was way more developed and wealthier than Portugal.

And Estonia or any Eastern country.
It's a bad comparison.

Too many ifs.
Did WWII happen?
Did the Soviets kill of the elite everywhere?
Was there a Marshal plan for these countries?

No, look at Greece

Eastern Europe has no easy access to the atlantic ocean so they wouldn't be able to trade

unlike the swiss, who have easy access to the atlantic

All of the statements in this post are wrong.
Good job.

You do realize that Greece is more developed than 95% of the world, retarded Latino.

any slav country would be developed as their western neighbour, germany to poland, ukraine to poland, etc

memes aside, greece is still a developed nation, when you have been developed for so long, you can't just lose your status so easily, that's why argentina remains relative decent, even with all their economic crisis

This. It doesn't matter if your infrastructure looks shit so long as you have it and it is functional.

ITT: too delusional

EE would be like Argentina, Egypt, Morocco, Colombia, Brazil


prove wrong

protip: you fuckin cant

WW2 yes, but retconned so that most of Europe is liberated by allies and no puppet states established by Soviets in the east.

Or the USSR was never involved in the war at all, remaining neutral, thus retaining its pre-war borders (no eastern Poland, no Baltics). This scenario would be interesting as Germany and Poland would almost certainly have kept their pre-war borders to this day.

Czechoslovakia at least would be a very wealthy country I think. I think Poland and Hungary also would have been successful. The rest is more doubtful.

>Argentina, Egypt, Morocco, Colombia, Brazil
Do you think these countries are comparable to each other?

If it wasnt for communism Moldova wouldn't exist

Yes if not for judeo bolshevist lans theft and oppression east europe would be as rich as west

Did you check his flag?

no all these EE cunts would be worse off than Turkey and Greece. It's delusional to think they would be anything other than another argentina or brazil

yes, all irrelevant capitalist shitholes like your homeland, puto

none of these cunts would be anything greater than turkey. you would literally be a colony of turkey by now

>delusional retards thinking you would be anything above turkey

turkey, greece, egypt, morocco, algeria are some of the capitalist countries in the region that escaped communism. EE would have been an algerian-tier shithole

They weren't as developed as Western Europe before gommunism. Ever since the Middle Ages the region has just been a source of raw materials for Germany.

Brb gotta start a religion based insurgency in the mountains.

proofs

Why didn't you keep going East across Europe after defeating Germany then?

Several things.

1. The climate is colder and drier and the soil not as good as Western Europe's
2. Eastern Europe kept getting devastated throughout the Dark and Middle Ages by Asiatic invaders which retarded development
3. Being inland without access to the open ocean limited the region's ability to participate in international trade
4. A middle class never properly developed--Eastern Europe remained a land of poor peasants living in serfdom on feudal estates
5. The educational systems traditionally value liberal arts and philosophy over STEM
6. The Renaissance only affected Catholic regions such as Poland, it didn't touch the Orthodox areas half of which were under Ottoman occupation
7. Orthodoxy doesn't value personal liberty or education as much as Catholicism or Protestantism

doesn't ukraine have one of the best agricultural soils in the world?

And finally, Eastern Europe was lacking in the resources needed for heavy industry such as coal and iron ore.

In there you can find an exception since the air flow from the Black Sea warms Ukraine.

>morocco and algeria
that geography wtf aside, 4 out of 5 countries you listed are muslim countries which is the natural enemy of "capitalism done right". greece is just... greece.

The most successful civilizations nearly always seem to be ones with a coastline because coastal regions are naturally suited for overseas trade and business..

It should be noted although Czechia today is considered Eastern European, historically it was seen as Central Europe. Unlike Romania or something, the Czech lands had a thriving middle class since medieval times, an industrial base, and participated in all the major political and cultural upheavals Europe experienced over time.

Slovakia was the complete opposite, the place was always the ultimate impoverished Eastern European shithole with little economic base outside subsistence agriculture and it was also a Hungarian province for a millenia.

oh turkroach
y u soooo gay?

the reason western europe became rich after ww2 was because eastern europe and the entire half of the planet was blocked

that meant that all investment and development was internal

if EE was open during this time, WE would be alot poorer due to cheap labor from EE

so if communism never happened, both EE and WE would be poor af, like turkey or some indian shithole

now fuck off

yeah you're a retard alright

ohh turkroach
y u sooo poor and inbred?

No, because it's full of slavs.
Communism is just a excuse

>listed are muslim countries which is the natural enemy of "capitalism done right
The same stuff applies to christianity. Usury is a vital part of the capitalist economy, and a horrible sin in christianity.

Retard

Any YT videos that gives good information on which countries are good at farming and why?

They are far more advanced than west ever was.

They are just smart enough to hide it so the greedy ratfolks of capitalism don't know where to look for it.

please become the Presidium of the Supreme Neo-Soviet of the Neo-USSR, headquartered in Praha