When will Chinese go back to wearing Hanfu?

Blake Jackson
Blake Jackson

When will Chinese go back to wearing Hanfu?

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Nathaniel Moore
Nathaniel Moore

yellow lady, give me hanfu job NOW plz

Liam Nelson
Liam Nelson

That would the the ultimate wuwuz. Shit died and should be dead

Julian James
Julian James

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Brayden Sanders
Brayden Sanders

hanfu was quite strict, it was nothing like that

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Juan Watson
Juan Watson

What's different from the one in OP and this one?

Tyler Baker
Tyler Baker

cool graph
now give yellow lady

Zachary Barnes
Zachary Barnes

go back
That sounds racist

David Ward
David Ward

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Nathaniel Parker
Nathaniel Parker

Fuck off

Gavin Torres
Gavin Torres

I don't like the full on hanfu, but I like robe inspired clothes

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Jose Rodriguez
Jose Rodriguez

none, i was just posting modern "hanfu"
historic hanfu most of the time was very tight and various material rules had to be followed
notice the shirt they were, it is all the way up the neck

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Lucas Murphy
Lucas Murphy

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Anthony Smith
Anthony Smith

were
wore

Connor Walker
Connor Walker

Post more.

Dominic Miller
Dominic Miller

I've studied fashion patterns.

People tend to follow what the elite wear.

I can't imagine Jack Ma or Xi walking around in handy anytime

Luis Cruz
Luis Cruz

Does Qing court dress count as Hanfu?

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Owen Lee
Owen Lee

notice the third women, they are literally working with sleeves up and she still has her shirt neck closed tight

the thing is the qing introduced standard wear and most chinese forgot how restrictive the code was

hanfu is developed like chinese eating etiquette it is very rule based, seating have precedence and so on the same for dress, it is just conveniently overlooked in the goal of trying to dig out some ancient custom they don't appreciate

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Ryder Wood
Ryder Wood

no, it's manchu

Cooper Lewis
Cooper Lewis

Well, tbf aren't there different styles of Hanfu from different dynasties? This is from the Song dynasty

Anthony Richardson
Anthony Richardson

Are you blind

David Young
David Young

this is han, one thousand years before the song

notice the 1st and 2nd attendants, they have an inner robe and another small shirt all up to the neck, these are basic servants

there is no modern comparison to how restrictive these dresses were

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Gabriel Cruz
Gabriel Cruz

here is a han warrior, 3 layers of clothes up to the chin + armor

in ancient chinese culture not wearing your clothes properly is impropriety to the highest, it means you are a failure in the strictest sense

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Jordan Smith
Jordan Smith

the reason why manchu clothing was so ready adopted because they don't have to follow restrictive rules anymore, within a short time no one wore hanfu
the old pictures of man with queue were wearing manchu style clothing

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Brayden Taylor
Brayden Taylor

notice the similarity, its just different material and no pauldrons

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Xavier Peterson
Xavier Peterson

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Alexander James
Alexander James

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Gavin Butler
Gavin Butler

I thought there were laws preventing Han from adopting Manchu dress. Or maybe it was just certain stuff like having three earrings on each ear for married Manchu women? Cause I've also read Han men had to wear their hair Manchu style
What are they doing? Practicing to wear flower pot shoes?

Cooper Baker
Cooper Baker

So then absolutely none of the clothes people wear in stuff like Story of Yanxi Palace or Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace is Hanfu? Even for the Han characters? :(

Ryan Lewis
Ryan Lewis

I thought there were laws preventing Han from adopting Manchu dress
the other way around, manchu was the ruling class
yes the queue is the hair style
What are they doing? Practicing to wear flower pot shoes?
they are reshaping the bones
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding

they are both manchu

three kingdoms is hanfu but no one understands how restrictive it was so it is pretty lose

Dominic Bailey
Dominic Bailey

Do you have pics for Ming court dress?
three kingdoms is hanfu but no one understands how restrictive it was so it is pretty lose
I haven't seen that series

Leo Evans
Leo Evans

youtube.com/watch?v=nkDxJ26qiTU

ancient Chinese painters always tried to depict the inner shirt being shown in their paintings so it is probably likely that is how they wore it
but in modern renditions no tv show actually shows that inner shirt, there is a gap of knowledge i think

Dylan Jackson
Dylan Jackson

ming court officials and mandarins had a big overall like a poncho, they were famous for it because each picture represented a rank, the normal commoners wore hanfu

the also had a wood circle for a belt, it was pretty silly

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Jason Butler
Jason Butler

notice that shirt again

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Josiah Fisher
Josiah Fisher

t. 阿三混蛋

the reason why manchu clothing was so ready adopted because they don't have to follow restrictive rules anymore, within a short time no one wore hanfu
Lol no, that's not the main reason. Not everyone was a scholar-official (see pic).

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Luis Fisher
Luis Fisher

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Blake Kelly
Blake Kelly

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Dominic Green
Dominic Green

What was the reason, then? And what are the pics you're posting of?

Isaac Morris
Isaac Morris

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Julian Davis
Julian Davis

Someone already mentioned it: top-down fashion displacement by Manchu-style clothing. Sumptuary rules (e.g. the queue) were strict anyways in the Qing Dynasty and there were remnants of Hanfu in more remote areas right up until the end of the Qing.
The pics are some historical paintings to show that not all "Hanfu" were confined to the social elite and their mores.

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Julian Roberts
Julian Roberts

I wanna coom inside her

Jose Stewart
Jose Stewart

If you want to see Han Dynasty culture, give up
If you want to see Tang Dynasty culture, go to Japan
If you want to see Song Dynasty culture, go to Vietnam
If you want to see Yuan dynasty culture, go to Mongol
If you want to see Ming Dynasty culture, go to Korea
If you want to see the culture of the Manchu people, go to """China""""

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Christopher Thomas
Christopher Thomas

What about this one?

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Chase Powell
Chase Powell

there were remnants of Hanfu in more remote areas right up until the end of the Qing.
Do you have pics of these?

Jackson Foster
Jackson Foster

Sure, the one you replied to is one of them. Here are some others.

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Thomas Edwards
Thomas Edwards

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Nathan Ross
Nathan Ross

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Owen Campbell
Owen Campbell

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Jacob Young
Jacob Young

Even the Qianlong Emperor liked to LARP in Hanfu sometimes

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Chase Adams
Chase Adams

You can see Hanfu up close in this one

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Dominic Cook
Dominic Cook

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Wyatt Baker
Wyatt Baker

Courtesan Sai Jinhua in the late Qing. Even though Han-style clothing was becoming an emblem of anti-Manchu feeling during the late Qing, she didn't really express Han nationalism during her life.

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Grayson Cox
Grayson Cox

Last one

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Angel Morgan
Angel Morgan

Pretty cool pics. Thanks

Kayden White
Kayden White

No problemo

Lincoln Collins
Lincoln Collins

looks like scrubs that doctors and nurses wear

Blake Gray
Blake Gray

Why do Chinese hate qipqo and want to return to Hanfu?

Colton Johnson
Colton Johnson

1. Historical dramas
2. It looks good
3. Han nationalism
4. They think popular Qipao is too slutty and Western

Tyler Bennett
Tyler Bennett

They think that the rule of the Qing Dynasty is colonial rule and the best humiliation in their history
So they hate all of the legacy of the Qing Dynasty

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Wyatt Long
Wyatt Long

Qipao is basically fake Manchu sexy clothes worn by some prostitutes
And Han nationalists aka most of Han Chinese thinking that Yuan and Qing is bad

Christian Peterson
Christian Peterson

Perhaps because its origin is Manchu and they're Han
Don't Koreans and Japanese always mock the Chinese for the Qing and Yuan?

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

Yeah almost like a hospital patient

Mason Diaz
Mason Diaz

Don't worry Mexibro, as much as I hate putonghua for being inspired by filthy Manchu language rather than Chad Han, once China restores Chinese civilization to its rightful position as the world's supreme civilization, Korea and Japan will have no choice but to concede to us Han Chinese once again.

Evan Martin
Evan Martin

Same

Noah Murphy
Noah Murphy

In what ways is Mandarin affected by the Manchu language?
Also pls see desuarchive.org/int/thread/111116581/

Blake Foster
Blake Foster

What do they think of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere?

Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

Korea and Japan will have no choice but to concede to us Han Chinese once again.
Bitch please. You’re just an anglicised chink on a tiny island that lost all his bond with the mainland. That remains a fact no matter how hard you claim your chinese-ness. Even your country’s founder didn’t consider himself chinese but singaporean.

You have nothing to do with the dominance of PRC nor would it get you anything. Now concede chinkaporean qts to us.

Jose Garcia
Jose Garcia

In the past Northern and Southern Chinese spoke different dialects. Both could still understand the other because of a common script and being able to just pickup other dialects. Putonghua was originally a Northern dialect that got reified into becoming the national language because in the 1910s when Chinese revolutionaries decided to expel the Qing Manchu, they elected to use putonghua as the new language of China.

In contrast Southern dialects are Hokkien, Cantonese, Teochew, Shanghainese, Hakka etc. Even till today southern parts of China such as Fujian Province and Guangdong Province (where most chinese immigrants to the overseas are from) still mainly speak in dialect.

Samuel Bell
Samuel Bell

Chinese culture was killed by mao calultiral revolution
Modern chink has no real culture as like korean level

Real Culture level: Shity modern communist chink= Shitty korean

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Christopher Green
Christopher Green

Cringe

Liam Thompson
Liam Thompson

They don't care about that, because Japan wasn't that bad at ASEAN cunts because local people hated colonizers
So they are not sympathized with ASEAN cunts and hence they don't care

Hunter Richardson
Hunter Richardson

Real Chinese culture was dead by mao cultural revolution and Chinese culture now is fake soulless and plastic as Korean level.
This is facts

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Caleb Turner
Caleb Turner

That's very true Koreabro, I'm incredibly anglicised. My ancestors left the mainland in the Ming Dynasty to seek their fortunes overseas. There wasn't even a PRC or ROC in that time, it was still traditional dynastic China. But I don't see how my anglicisation stops me from reclaiming my ancestry.

A lot of Mainland Chinese acknowledge that Singapore is an independant country with a heavily Singaporean populace. Yet at the same time they see Overseas Chinese as 'one of us', and most Overseas Chinese who are not whitewashed are mainly reciprocal in that fact.

The same way that you have to be Korean to understand the Koreans, and the same way you have to be Japanese to understand how the Japanese mind works, unless you are true to the blood Han Chinese, its very hard to understand the nuanced nature and relationship that the Overseas Chinese have with both Mainland China and Chinese civilization. Each East Asian civilization is unique in its own right, but you cannot deny that Korean and Japanese culture have basic roots in Chinese ones.

Both Japanbros make good and true points. Modern Chinese culture has lost its glorious Han roots, but Xi is attempting to fix that by reviving the notion of 華夏 and Han consciousness. I do not doubt that in time China will regain its former Han glory. Although I'm a big fan of the Tang as well.

Luis Bailey
Luis Bailey

I'll remember this saying, its a nice one

Dominic Ramirez
Dominic Ramirez

This comment was from Chinese poster.

"'Japan is the only country left carrying on the true legacy of thousands of years of East Asian civilization ironically. A highly developed Neo-Confucianism mixed with Mahayana Buddhism blended with local Jomon Shinto with the rising sun traditions and gods has created a vibrate society. China has gone to shit with the destruction and warping of their own culture and history because of Communism ,mao cultural revolution ,destruction of a lot of temple which is thousand of histrical art in it, and the Great Leap Forward. Korea has become a Christian shithole divided by two different kinds of Western ideology.
Vietnam's colonization by the French has destroyed their East Asian identity as well. High Classical East Asian Literature, philosophy, customs and values only now only truly exist in Japan. Yes, only in japan! I’m Chinese myself but I can say so honestly speaking. ""

Ryan Gray
Ryan Gray

Do not fooled by gook he is fucking wrong

Modern korean has no Ming culture but only Joseon Dynasty add shitty colonies culture which of west and japan culture mixed together.
No Ming culture in Korea but a Joseon Dynasty add west and Japanese culture in it.
Kpop type of plastic soulless shit. It’s typical korean fuckig fake culture

David Green
David Green

Isn't Jpop plastic as well?

Jason Wood
Jason Wood

Xi is attempting to fix that by reviving the notion of 華夏
lol I spot a 小五毛

Xi only cares about staying in power and throwing raw pork to the brainwashed masses fulfills that requirement.

He could care less about the 'new china' project if it didn't buy him a nicer palace and help him hunt down his political rivals

Samuel Roberts
Samuel Roberts

Japan is a combination of Chinese and Korean culture.

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Isaiah Diaz
Isaiah Diaz

Read

Jason Sullivan
Jason Sullivan

Why korean has such a stupid inferiority complex...so sad of them.

Korean whole culture revolves around hating Japan as natinalisim of korea and having plastic surgery.
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annexed by japanese
postcolonial state's national identity revolves around resentment and obsession about japan
all industries and institutions were made and/or assisted by japan
copies everything japan does/has, and then claims origin
"japan is this, japan is that" make up for like 99% of domestic arguments
"overcoming japan" is literally the national motto
even its sworn enemy, the northern brother, is a shitty wannabe imperial japan
so butthurt that even a name of sea, the sea of japan, triggers them because it has japan
the abnormal obsession is easily noticed by foreigners
the Korean government even had ads on the airport subway line complaining about the Dokdo/Takeshima dispute, trying to asset Korean sovereignty over them to every foreign visitors
japan puts the stalker on a watch list, an gooks confuse it with attention
can't help but post "see, korea is featured in a TV-show in dai-nippon! they are obsessed with us!" on a fucking japanese website
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What a sad people Koreans are...

What is korean culture exactly?
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Why korean has inferiority complexity toward japan so much?

Zachary Anderson
Zachary Anderson

is an independant country with a heavily Singaporean populace.
What do they mean by "Singaporean" populace?

Elijah Richardson
Elijah Richardson

Many Japanese traditional cultures are fake have been created since the mid-19th century.

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Alexander Gutierrez
Alexander Gutierrez

Stupid gook

Google ukiyoe and Japanese art and see how much beautiful Japanese traditions are and go copy af clame it’s origines as like you korean do every Japanese and Chinese culture. Lol

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Nathan Hall
Nathan Hall

It goes endless. How come we could imitate those huge amount of "fake" old record.

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Adam Russell
Adam Russell

this is truth jap

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Cameron Lopez
Cameron Lopez

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Jack Hall
Jack Hall

No country in the world calls clothes made in the mid-19th century as traditional costumes.

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Easton Rodriguez
Easton Rodriguez

What the fuck are you talking about?
Are you crazy?
Stylized Kimono in the late Heian period. A few centuries after Japan demolished connections with China.[7](The Tale of Genji, 12th century)

Now try to post the exact cultural record of korean culture from 12century

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Robert Turner
Robert Turner

Cringe
The Japanese cannot distinguish between nobles and commoners because of Delusional disorder

Public nudity was quite normal and commonplace in Japan until the Meiji Restoration. Commodore Matthew Perry's interpreter Rev. S. Well Williams wrote "Modesty, judging from what we see, might be said to be unknown, for the women make no attempt to hide the bosom, and every step shows the leg above the knee; while men generally go with the merest bit of rag, and that not always carefully put on. Naked men and women have both been seen in the streets, and uniformly resort to the same bath house, regardless of all decency. Lewd motions, pictures and talk seem to be the common expression of the viler acts and thoughts of the people, and this to such a degree as to disgust everybody."

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Josiah Wilson
Josiah Wilson

Han is Confucian cuck thought that pays hordes to peace
Qin is based legalism ideology that brings people discipline and law, kills and destroys dumb Confucian and hordes

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Henry Lewis
Henry Lewis

why do you hate your fellow asians? you are the same race

Jackson Wright
Jackson Wright

Are you ok? Korean until end of 20century was massive barbarians

Korean at that times of jeason dynasty was poorer than Africa.
And eating poop wine as barbarian.

Face the reality korean

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Adam Hall
Adam Hall

???
why do you hate your fellow asians. we need to unite

James Long
James Long

In 1872 a law was passed in Tokyo prohibiting public nudity, mixed bathing, and urinating in the street. Not only total nudity was banned, but naked thighs and upper torsos also resulted in fines. In 1876 more than 2,000 people were arrested for nudity offenses

The common people in Japan were all naked So it was prohibited by law.
The kimono you know is 150 years of history.

And the hanbok you brought is not characteristic of hanbok ,but customs of the lower class

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Cameron Hall
Cameron Hall

Why Japanese hate korean is simple.
South Korea is endless beggar of compensation about ww2 fucking 70years ago and helping Chinese aggression and NK behind that attitude!

How many times must Japan apologize?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_
of_war_apology_statements_issued_by
_Japan

And how much of money japan have to pay as compensation?

Are gooks beggar?

1965 in the Japan-Korea Basic Treaty , japan paid The total amount of 800 million dollars [currently converted 4,500 billion yen] to south korea.The total amount of 800 million dollars is 2.3 times the Korean national budget at the time.
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And Japan's private assets in Korea amount to 5.3 billion dollars (1.98 trillion yen, about 15 trillion yen now converted) was given for free.
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tre
aty_on_Basic_Relations_between_Japa
n_and_the_Republic_of_Korea
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Also at that time , Infrastructure improvement introduced in Korea by Japanese tax was【60 trillion yen】. And japan give up all of those investments and private assets in Korea.
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and 1994
The Asian Women's Fund
"$40million" was provided by the Government of Japan.
and "$5million"was donated by the people of Japan.
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And 2015 ,
the Japan-korea agreements made over comfort women.
"Japan paid 1 billion yen again in 2015."
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"At the Japan-US-Korea summit meeting held in New York in September 2017,Korean media reported.
The Korean president moon saied
"Japan is not an ally of korea because of Japanese war criminals of ww2 are not yet apologized . "
in front of PM Abe japan and president trump,

Korea is just whining and taking advantage of victimhood status to swindle Japanese corporations. Japanese today are not responsible for past atrocities. Korea is acting like a spoiled child, stop begging for money , Japan already paid stupidly huge money and apologized so many times, how many times do the Japanese have to apologize and hand out money? Korea needs to get over it

Adam Long
Adam Long

Statist cuck. Taoist ancap>(you)

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Leo Phillips
Leo Phillips

Japanese have no courage to admit the truth
And not only kimonos, your cultural heritage are all fake.

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Connor Rogers
Connor Rogers

I enjoy watching japs and koreans hate on each other. it's funny

Landon Morales
Landon Morales

Too stupid to even reply properly to brainlets korean inferiority complexly guy.

No one will Take such stupid saying

Whatever just die in endless economical sanctions from japan

Lincoln Rivera
Lincoln Rivera

If I was a wumao I wouldn't be writing Traditional Chinese. Mainlanders despise Traditional because of its political connotations and how Taiwan and Hong Kong still retain writing in the Traditional Chinese system.

The fact that you cannot tell the difference is no fault of your own, given how shit education in your country is.

That Chinese poster makes a good point as well. Mainlanders deride Overseas Chinese for being selfhating or mentally colonised, but it is incredibly ironic because we retain in greater degree the traditional Chinese ways of Confucianism and Buddhism. Sadly, Modern China culturally is still very much all over the place.

Sebastian Jenkins
Sebastian Jenkins

The truth is painful. Japkun

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Asher Martinez
Asher Martinez

do you like korean girls?

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Evan Rogers
Evan Rogers

Korean inferiority complexly

Bytheway South Korea is Enemy of democracy side.
South Korean is already the side of NK and china.

U.S. expresses disappointment over S. Korea's decision to withdraw from military information ...
m.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPpyiOlUvY
South Korea is Enemy of democracy side.
South Korean is already the side of NK and china.
Japan and USA never forgive you betrayer of democracy also endless beggar of compensation.
So korea is already ended.just die in endless Japanese economical sanctions

South Korea break the General Security of Military Information Agreement.

This is just benefits for NK and China so much.

And this will destroy the influence of USA in east Asia.

South Korea is doing whatever good for NK and China right now

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Asher Long
Asher Long

Korean girl is plastic subhuman

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Evan Phillips
Evan Phillips

Mainlanders despise Traditional because of its political connotations and how Taiwan and Hong Kong still retain writing in the Traditional Chinese system.
is this really the case? mainlanders continue to use the traditional script in artworks like caligraphy etc

William Collins
William Collins

Korean plastic subhuman

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Michael Cruz
Michael Cruz

so if you had to choose to kill a korean vs a caucasian
who would you murder?

Evan Scott
Evan Scott

Read Westerner is ally of japan and USA and democracy side.

Korean is Judas Iscariot for democracy world.

South Korea break the General Security of Military Information Agreement.

This is just benefits for NK and China so much.

And this will destroy the influence of USA in east Asia.

South Korea is doing whatever good for NK and China right now

Again South Korea is enemy of democracy side

Die korean betrayer

James Martin
James Martin

There it goes you fucking autists, we had a nice thread before your stupid ass war began again.
Bunch of cunts

Jaxon Campbell
Jaxon Campbell

Yes, they still use Traditional in these ceremonial and nominal ways, but Simplified Chinese is used 99% of the time. If you go on sites where Mainlanders congregate like Zhihu and Weibo, most write in Simplified. Overseas Chinese on the other hand have no biases towards either and can read/write in both relatively fluently.

Traditional Chinese has a flair which I'm very fond of, but I do confess that Simplified is very much easier and less tiring to write.

Jose Brown
Jose Brown

Yes Japanese poster is the worst
They always mess up threads

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Xavier Richardson
Xavier Richardson

why are asian men so fragile?

Aiden Gonzalez
Aiden Gonzalez

You a retard or what?

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Elijah Nelson
Elijah Nelson

never
the world is fucked by british
no one has any culture nor national dress anymore, it's all copies of usa, which is a shitty copy of britain, which is shit

Anthony Peterson
Anthony Peterson

What japanrse say in that image is all truth. Go spray that meme.

Carter Perry
Carter Perry

And Chinese lost that culture.
Manchurian communist western copied plastic fake southless culture as Korean level

This is chinese of now

Jack White
Jack White

I'm korean

if I go to japan will I be discrimination against.

Isaac Jackson
Isaac Jackson

People doesn’t care but people would feel " oh korean... I wish japanese economical sanctions will make them stop being endless beggar of compensation about ww2"
And be silent and keep walking.

Jose Miller
Jose Miller

Please get out of here. This thread is not a thread talking about the truth of Japan
I'll make that thread if you want

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Ayden Scott
Ayden Scott

This is just snapshots of bits of noble fashion until the 20th century.

Henry Gomez
Henry Gomez

you do realize that she literally is wearing a mongol underwear dress dont ya?

Michael Morgan
Michael Morgan

You are Typical korean who has Inferiority complitely toward japan.

Ask someone else about your thinking
hey Singapore chinese bro. How do you think those non sense korean inferiority complitely ??

Kevin Watson
Kevin Watson

why are koreans more racist than japanese?

Ryder Lopez
Ryder Lopez

This.
Chinese was fucked up by mongol showily shitty culture before mao cultural revolution of communism fucked up again.
China and Korean cultural base is mongol
More exactly say, mongol communist who cosplay chinese culture which cosplay western and Japanese culture is modern Chinese and korean culture

Henry Davis
Henry Davis

Korean is already enemy of us
Enemy of japan and all the democracy side

Korean attack japan to get compensation money about ww2 endlessly and behind that do whatever good for china and nk and attack the benefits of USA in east Asia

Again korean is already enemy

Parker Peterson
Parker Peterson

Communists destroyed their culture so no.

Kayden Wright
Kayden Wright

The Mongol invasions of Korea (1231–1259) comprised a series of campaigns between 1231 and 1270 by the Mongol Empire against the Kingdom of Goryeo (the proto-state of modern-day Korea). There were seven major campaigns at tremendous cost to civilian lives throughout the Korean Peninsula, ultimately resulting in Korea becoming a vassal state[1] of the Mongol Yuan dynasty for approximately 80 years.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasions_of_Korea

John Lopez
John Lopez

Chinese and Xi only care about trite nationalism. Fuel for nationalism rather than respect and understanding for the past. They will never regain it, only continue spitting on it. LARPy clothing being just one example.

Robert Gray
Robert Gray

Not everyone but korean ha inferiority complitely Timor’s Japanese becouse if those post .obviously

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Also read this

Hudson Gray
Hudson Gray

huh? Only you don't know it

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Julian Nelson
Julian Nelson

South Korean is Judas Iscariot for democracy world.

Do not fooled by gook betrayer

Gabriel Moore
Gabriel Moore

Korean inferiority complitely lost again

Hōryūji: A Brief History
The grounds of Hōryūji (Hōryū Temple) house the world's oldest surviving wooden structures, conveying images of Japan as it existed more than 1,300 years ago, during the Asuka Period (A.D. mid 6th - beginning of 8th c.). The story of Hōryūji's founding can be discovered in the historical writings engraved on the back of the halo of the Yakushi Nyorai Buddha statue, located on the eastern side of the room in the temple's Main Hall, and in the official inventory of Hōryūji property holdings recorded in 747.

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Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

Take a look at this. This is Horyuji, an ancient Japanese temple, built in 607 AD. It is the world’s oldest surviving wooden structure. Horyuji was constructed from Japanese cypress that were roughly 2,000 years old. It has been 1,300 years since the cypress were cut down, and the wood still stands firm.

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Juan Scott
Juan Scott

Why don't Japanese admit that their culture is fake?
Brainwashing is scary

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Jordan Moore
Jordan Moore

Chinks are not socially mindful at all, their manners are almost nonexistent, and they have no sense of aesthetics or orderliness. Given the nature of the Chinese tradition, which is heavy in these things, it's impossible to say presentday Chinese 'people' have anything to do with the past people that merely happened to inhabit the same place. Han chink nationalists must be blind, to not see the uncivilised mess before them. Or rather that's proof of it, they don't realise what the problem is, being part of the problem.

Benjamin Reed
Benjamin Reed

You think Repair is fake.
I see.

Everyone,This is the reason korean has no any real culture at all.

Zachary Cox
Zachary Cox

Koreans tell lies as if to breath
Koreans tell lies as if to breath
Koreans tell lies as if to breath

Don't tell a lie
Many historical heritage architectures in Japan are very old
Therefore those are sometimes repaired
Of course, there are restored Japanese architectures , but most of them are "repaired"

修復(修築) = repair
復元 = restore

Jose Cruz
Jose Cruz

THis is true. Thats why some Chinese confessed those thinking of them .read this

Evan Robinson
Evan Robinson

How do you feel when realize the truth of culture?

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

There are now some Hanfu interest group in China but they are of about same size as people who wear e.g. lolita fashion.

Carter Morgan
Carter Morgan

I'll give you this aphorism
Koreans tell lies as if to breath

Jack Collins
Jack Collins

Koreans tell lies as if to breath

Japanese finally began to deny reality

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Gavin Sullivan
Gavin Sullivan

See this endless nonsense inferiority complitely of typical korean.
Read the fucking truth South Korean is Judas Iscariot for democracy world.

Do not fooled by gook betrayer

Sebastian Flores
Sebastian Flores

Chinese traditions are dead and now being subculture fashion as like Lolita as he says

Sebastian Edwards
Sebastian Edwards

WHAT IS A HAN?

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Henry Mitchell
Henry Mitchell

Sadly you have some truth in what you are saying Ausbro. The only traditional Chinese that are left are those who left before all the chaos and fled to all parts of the world, eventually becoming known as the Overseas Chinese or the Chinese Diaspora. We are a scattered and lost civilisation with multiple heads, arguing over who is the true carrier of Chinese civilisation and who is not.

The Chinese revolutionary Sun Yat Sen used to describe the Chinese as a sheet of lose sand, which I fear is true. There are so many schools of thought, each wanting to reunite in disparate and different ways. I grieve immensely for the state of my civilisation. I have deep yearnings to see it restored to its former Han glory.

William Jackson
William Jackson

I believe some people do realize this, and they try their best but the society has taken so much damage that it will take a long time to fix

Zachary Wilson
Zachary Wilson

Korean - Based on proof
Japanese - “FUCK!!! KOREA!!!I HATE YOU!!! U ARU LAIA!!! WE DON'TU DESU!!!!”

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Leo Hughes
Leo Hughes

Also, a few years ago, there was a news that when a Chinese girl wear Hanfu on the street, her clothing was being misidentified as Japanese kimono, thus she's being beaten and unclothed by the public (It was ~2012 when the tension between the two countries was high)

Jackson Moore
Jackson Moore

Because “Chinese nationalism” is a huge meme and there was no such thing in the past
Historical imperial China never saw itself as just some nation or a people, it saw itself as a sort of archetype and THE civilization.
Likewise anyone could “become” Chinese simply by being civilized in the model of the confucian ideal.
This is why many other asians had such close ties to china despite not being actual Han Chinese

Gavin Watson
Gavin Watson

Because the kimono is a copy of the Tang Hanfu LMAO

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Joshua Sullivan
Joshua Sullivan

Koreans tell lies as if to breath
Why is only what you Koreans can do is tell lies?

明治期の東大寺仏典の修復では、当時鉄鋼業が盛んであった英国のシェルトンスティール社製の鉄骨トラスが使われ、

When large scaled repair project the Meiji period, the Shelton steal in the UK where is popular to make steal at that time was used,

Jaxson Thompson
Jaxson Thompson

Reconstruction is alright if its faithful
I still have hope that one day the palace complex at Hue will finally be restored to its full glory.

Noah Smith
Noah Smith

world.taobao.com/product/漢服深衣女正規_2.htm
漢服深衣女正規教學|漢服深衣女正規品牌|

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Hunter Hughes
Hunter Hughes

That is part of the story. More importantly, the current Hanfu is a product reconstructed from past clothes of various era as they have been mostly extincted and of course they have also looked at clothing in area that are supposedly influenced by Han culture and take designs from them. Also, back then regular people in China have no idea there was something called traditional Hanfu not to mention knowing what they look like, so they thought they're Japanese clothings once they see something that look like that

Sebastian Brooks
Sebastian Brooks

鉄骨トラスが使われ、
鉄骨
STEEL FRAME

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Christian Cruz
Christian Cruz

you wrote """ The Todiji was restored """"
but actually that was """ When large scaled repair project the Meiji period, ""
And this is the reason why Koreans are hated by Japanese

Koreans tell lies as if to breath

Angel Gomez
Angel Gomez

YOU BOTH LOOK THE SAME

stop fighting

Luis Flores
Luis Flores

My cousin dressed up in a Hanfu once when I was visiting her family.

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David Jenkins
David Jenkins

Example of Japanese culture and achievements .

Ukiyoe (influences a lot of impressionist artist in 19cetury West as a japonisim like Van Gogh and so on ).

Makie (Japanese golden powder art work. Popular arround 18 to 19 century of the France in royal art collections. Even Marie Antoinette loved them.)

Samurai related culture and it’s character image ( if you think it’s copy from China or korea. Name one which is exactly the same things. It’s culture developed in japan by Japanese)
Even judo and BJJ is invented by jiujitsu from japan

Hapkido is made by aiki jiujitsu after ww2.

Ninja character image (influenced a lot of Hollywood action movie and common image as character.)

Kyouto culture like geisha.Zen philosophiy and zen art (developed by Japanese)

Sushi(one of the most expensive food yet very popular all over the world and it has big international market and make a lot of money by arround sushi culture)

A lot of industry and sience achievement.(Daily reminder that many manufacturer in this world ultilize FANUC robot hand which is a Japanese company.
Without robot hand of Japanese, many industry in the world can’t do even its business properly anymore.

IPS cell was founded by Japanese
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ind
uced_pluripotent_stem_cell

Who firstly made vitamins from the food was Japanese
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ume
taro_Suzuki
)

Two elements are found by Japanese.

and so on more and more.

Korea has ZERO Nobel Prize Bytheway.(except one peace prize. but it’s useless unless Not related sience or teacnology.

And anime
The movie Matrix is effected by anime camera work and effect like DBZ or Kurosawa samurai movie.
Star Wars is based on Japanese samurai culture and kurosawa samurai movie .
And matrix is one of the movie established nowadays style of the USA movie.
A lot of American celebrities or creator is openly saying they like or effected by Japanese modern and traditional art culture.

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Levi Brooks
Levi Brooks

foot binding is an abomination

Logan Hall
Logan Hall

Be a Japanese Temple
Made using wood
Ruined because of idnferior construction Japanese technology
Restoration using modern materials in the 19th century with Western technology
But Appearance is different than before
“why yes, this is great our temple desu!”

LMAO

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Carson Rivera
Carson Rivera

mandarin squares are effay as fuck, I want a sweater with one

Lucas Ortiz
Lucas Ortiz

See this endless nonsense inferiority complitely of typical korean.
Read the fucking truth (You) #
(You) #
(You) #
South Korean is Judas Iscariot for democracy world.
(You) #
(You) #

Do not fooled by gook betrayer

Ok?

David Ross
David Ross

HELL NO
Korea does not use steel frames and concrete to restore wooden cultural assets, but restores them along the original

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Anthony Moore
Anthony Moore

Koran shitty inferiority complitely toward japan

Liam Martin
Liam Martin

what i do is only tell the truths
i wish to leave him alone but koreans often spread fake information about japan
so i don't wish to do such meanless things, but we japanese have to do it

Carson Walker
Carson Walker

you are both the SAME people genetically.

Christopher Lee
Christopher Lee

Wooden Temple
Using Steel and concrete
Different appearance before and after recovery
Cultural Heritage

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Elijah Ortiz
Elijah Ortiz

Because our ancestors raped all the Japanese
But we are talking about truth of japanese culutre

About fake kimonos and traditional Japanese buildings

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Justin Jackson
Justin Jackson

Fucking wrong

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Robert Miller
Robert Miller

Korean was colony of japan even ancient times and its resurch result of western historical study

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John Green
John Green

"Samguk Sagi" the korean oldest histrical primary record is saying one of the king of silla korea is Japanese.
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wiki page here.
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tal
hae_of_Silla
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And Korean is Useing the samguk sagi as primary records of own korean national history officially by the gorvenment.

And silla is very important identity of korean people because that ancient country is the first time United whole korea as one country.

and it’s directly mentioned in the ancient primary record of korean themselfs that one of the king of the silla was japaneee.

It means one of the first king of the korea who United ancient three kingdom of them was Japanese Ainu Jomon and it was mentioned own Korean official ancient history record.
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Talhae of Silla (?–80, r. 57–80) was the fourth king of Silla, one of the Three Kingdoms of Korea. He is commonly called Talhae Isageum, isageum being the royal title in early Silla. Also known by his personal name as Seok Tal-hae(昔脫解).
Talhae of Silla
Hangul
탈해 이사금, 토해 이사금

He was a member of the Gyeongju Seok clan, one of the noble clans that shared the Silla throne during the early Common Era.
<<He was born in a small kingdom 1000 li1northeast of Wa (Japan).>>
According to the Samguk Sagi,
He has Japanese origin. Tal-hae also came over by ship. The location of his birth place Dapana Country is estimated as somewhere in Japan peninsula. It is precisely estimated some part in Kyushu.

1li is roughly equivalent to 400–500 meters.
2Tanba no kuni was located 460 km northeast of Wakoku Japan (hanja: 倭国)
On the other hand, there is a view that Ryongseong-guk (Hangul: 룡성국; Hanja: 龍城國) listed in Samguk yusa has been regarded as a nation of Ainu, and Tal-hae has been regarded as a citizen of Ainu.[5]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tal
hae_of_Silla

William Campbell
William Campbell

portugal is the sole remaining heir to the sino-korea-japanese tradition and that's a fact

Henry Butler
Henry Butler

Some of those architecture was supported by steals for the safety and so on. But we ha e all the original blue print and remain the original art work of architecture anyway.
That korean is keep on saying non sense crap.

Matthew James
Matthew James

what kind of autist thinks this way

Connor Collins
Connor Collins

Korea did not have contact with Portugal until the end of the 19th century.

Lincoln Foster
Lincoln Foster

NOBODY FUCKING CARES STOP WITH YOUR ENDLESS AUTISTIC CRUSADE IN SEVERAL THREADS EVERY DAY, SPAMMING COPYPASTAE AND HORRID ENGLISH

YOU HAVE SINGLEHANDEDLY LOWERED THE STANDING OF JAPAN ON THIS BOARD THROUGH YOUR HOMOSEXUAL OBSESSION

Alexander Brooks
Alexander Brooks

Say that to this gook you fucking retard

Jack Collins
Jack Collins

Why Japanese hate korean is becouse they never stop asking ton of compensation money from japan endlessly even now.
Korean is beggar and we japanese outrage about it right now

Korea is too annoying with their MUH APOLOGY AND ETERNAL JAPANESE SIN and that kinda stuff, and Zainichi did have fucks who collaborated with North Korea and South Korean Anti japan movements that endlessly hate Japan and refuse to naturalize despite living here for several generations. And asking ton of compensation money from japan even now every year.

Korean is beggar of Asia

At 2018 again the Korean government decided to force Japan to pay $24 billion with the money coming from the 245 Japanese companies operating in Korea. Korea tries to force this as compensation for WW2
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Each of the "220,000"of korean people is asking at least "$89,051.50 = ¥10000000".
South Korea already forcefully seize the property of some of Japanese companies in Korea at 2018.(crazy but this is the reality.)
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korean is always saying what they need is apologize from japan, then why they are keep on asking such a stupidly huge amount of the money again and again even at 2018.This is the hypocritical act of them
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""They fools the world, to get money and advantage from Japan endlessly.""
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The only reason? Money.

Korea is just whining and taking advantage of victimhood status to swindle Japanese corporations. Japanese today are not responsible for past atrocities. Korea is acting like a spoiled child, stop begging for money , Japan already paid stupidly huge money and apologized so many times, how many times do the Japanese have to apologize and hand out money? Korea needs to get over it

John Jackson
John Jackson

OOOOHHH NOOO HE SAID THE THING ABOUT JAPAN BETTER REV UP THE SPASTIC RETARD ENGINE SO I CAN PROVE HIM WRONG TO THE 0 PEOPLE WHO GIVE A SHIT OUTSIDE OF ME AND HIM

BETTER DO THIS EVERY FUCKING DAY BECAUSE IT HAS TO WORK SOME TIME

EVER HEARD OF MAGNANIMITY YOU GREASY FACED HIKKI?

Ian Perez
Ian Perez

Jap gook battle in this thread

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Jaxon Smith
Jaxon Smith

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Noah Lopez
Noah Lopez

he did it again

Gavin Lee
Gavin Lee

By the way what is interesting korean traditions?
Can you Someone point out even one?

Brody Diaz
Brody Diaz

Yes but even then there exists a hierarchy. Which admittedly was fluid given the flux and changes of various dynasties. During the Qing period the Hans were marginalised in place of the sinicized Manchu.

You have to understand that the Han Chinese have perennially been the majority race in China. The overthrow of the Manchu Qing guaranteed that the Han Chinese would reclaim the mantle of being the carriers of Chinese civilization. The idea of Han as being **the** possessors of Chinese civilization is more rampant than ever today.

To the Chinese, unless you are sufficiently fairskinned enough to match chinese skin colour, or are from the subset of Vietnamese that see themselves as 越南華人, I don't think the Chinese will willingly see you as part of their race/civilization. After all, hasn't Vietnam historically been proud of the fact that it has managed to ward off invasions by the Chinese multiple times in their history? I'm very patchy on Vietnam-Chinese history, so I stand to be corrected.

The Chinese do see the Koreans and Japanese as partially intertwined with them, both are 黃種族. I cannot see myself marrying anyone but another fellow goldenskin.

The most unorthodox view I have is that the East Asian civilizations have to work together to expel the white cancer. We are the epitome of what it means to be civilized. Western 蠻 do not deserve any place in any of our societies. They can destroy themselves all they want. East Asia will remain.

Lucas Howard
Lucas Howard

Sorry but japan is full faith ally of western democracy until the end.
And fuck Chinese communists
But korean is different.

Japanese economical sanctions on Korea is basically purpose of attacking supply chain of strategy materials from Korea to China.

Everyone who stand for korea for this issue is standing for chinese aggression.

SK is already enemy and betrayer of USA ,japan and western democracy.

SK was the big supply chain of strategy materials for NK and China and IRAN.

So USA got huge anger right now about it and let japan to do economical sanctions on South Korea.

Iranian official says oil-for-goods deal planned with South Korea
middleeasteye.net/news/
iranian-official-says-oil-goods-dea

l-planned-south-korea

Big amount of sensitive stuff just vanished in South Korea that could be used to create nukes, poison gas and so on. Korea sold that stuff to someone or "lost it" .
Those economic sanctions on Korea is part of attacking supply chane of communism nations. which is connected the USA economical sanctions against China.

Strategic goods illegally exported from S.Korea
Data from Seoul point to over 150 cases of illegal exports of strategic items by South Korea that can be used to produce weapons.

South Korea's trade ministry had compiled a report on the number of such cases last October and another this May, following requests by parliament.

The reports found 156 cases during the four years ending this March.

After that NK was started to rebuilding nuclear weapon.

""''>Korea seized after illegal export was happned.
So it did not prevent at all the outflow of strategic substances all over the world. """
NO ONE KNOWS ANYMORE WHERE THE ALL OF THOSE STRATEGIC SUBSTANCE WENT FROM KOREA. "

It's pretty obvious that the SK gave north korea the illegal export from Japan. Moon is pretty much an appeaser to Kim, and will do anything to be the one to reunite Korea.

So economical sanctions on Korea is unavoidable.

Cameron Harris
Cameron Harris

Traditional wooden buildings without concrete and rebar unlike Japan
Hanbok, have been worn for thousands of years unlike Japan

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Ryder Lewis
Ryder Lewis

North Vietnam was a Chinese province for over 1000 years, until a rebellion ended chinese control shortly after the collapse of Tang Dynasty. The Vietnamese and Cantonese both come from the same Yue tribal stock, but the latter were sinicized while the former were partially sincized. DESU mondern Han are formed of countless assimilated peoples and only 中原人can themselves O.G. chinese, assuming they didn't get bastardized by mongol, manchu, xianbei, di, etc wuhu barbarians

After the Qing conquered china proper, the Vietnamese considered themselves the inheritors of Chinese civilization and even called themselves "Trung Quốc" 中國

Kayden Peterson
Kayden Peterson

That's fine user. Nobody said being East Asian means that you are predisposed to being an autocracy. The Japanese have always imported foreign influence and transformed them into something uniquely Japanese.

I somewhat agree. I am very wary of the CCP's influence as well, they have eradicated a lot of what makes the Chinese Chinese. But uplifting a few hundred million people from the abject poverty of the misguided and utterly stupid Cultural Revolution does possess its own merits. Then again the Cultural Revolution was a stupidity of their own making.

What happens between state governments doesn't translate similarly at a societal level. Most Japanese I know and interacted with have a pleasant view of other Chinese dominant areas such as Taiwan and Singapore. In part that might be because the Japanese won't outright voice their innermost thoughts with others, but even then I don't think they would have much criticisms, otherwise there wouldn't be a sizable Overseas Japanese community in Singapore.

At the international level the SG and JP governments have been close allies for decades, with little strife in relationships.

Ayden Myers
Ayden Myers

Yup, the OG Chinese are those from central China. In the fallout of the one of the dynasties (I can't remember which, it was either Tang or Song), Northerners had to flee to South China to escaps the coming invaders from the North. They mixed enough with the South, sinicizing it to the extent that it's left a mark on the local dialects. Even to today the Hokkiens refer to themselves as 'tng lang' or 唐人.

Tbh your point about Modern Han being such an immense mixture of various races over the thousands of years of Chinese history is very much true. Now the Han Chinese are the Han Chinese as defined by China, for better or for worse. For Overseas Chinese such as myself, being of Han Chinese descent is irrefutable. This can be seen from how when Singapore had to stand with ASEAN in defending the South China Sea, both the government and people of China were greatly displeased with Singapore, because they view us as Han Chinese as well. Even today some mainlanders refer to Singapore as 坡省, which is a play on words to refer to Singapore as a province.

Gavin Mitchell
Gavin Mitchell

Based Korean Chad wins again
Japkuns just got BTFO

Asher Thompson
Asher Thompson

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Brayden Powell
Brayden Powell

Korean is Judas Iscariot for democracy world.

South Korea is Enemy of democracy side already .
Thy are already the side of NK and china.
Do not be fooled by gooks anymore.

South Korea break the General Security of Military Information Agreement.

This is just benefits for NK and China so much.

And this will destroy doramatically the nfluence and power and benefit of USA in east Asia.

South Korea is doing whatever good for NK and China right now

Again South Korea is enemy of democracy side

Die korean betrayer
U.S. expresses disappointment over S. Korea's decision to withdraw from military information ...
m.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPpyiOlUvY

Also korea is beggar of endless compensation. This anti Japanese statementscate works help units of South Korea China and noth Korea.
And destroy the relationship japan USA and South Korea.
Everything what korean do is benefit for china and nk.
Do not fooled by gook

Bentley Gomez
Bentley Gomez

Overseas Chinese as 'one of us', and most Overseas Chinese who are not whitewashed are mainly reciprocal in that fact.
Not really. Besides I may be Chinese (unironically) but I hate China and Chinese shills.

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