Is Netanyahu a fascist?

Mason Hughes
Mason Hughes

is Netanyahu a fascist?

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nytimes.com/interactive/2019/us/politics/israel-human-rights-democratic-candidates.html
youtube.com/watch?v=1u5Z0GZ1WsE
theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/10/netanyahu-vows-annex-large-parts-occupied-west-bank-trump
youtube.com/watch?v=TOaxAckFCuQ

Camden Hall
Camden Hall

If only

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James Foster
James Foster

no

Easton James
Easton James

is this ok?

aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/netanyahu-announces-post-election-plan-annex-jordan-valley-190910155523634.html

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Tyler Roberts
Tyler Roberts

I hope he becomes even more of a dictator and a civil war starts.

Joshua Jones
Joshua Jones

So fitting

Leo Gray
Leo Gray

No , he's the leader of the liberal party
Ayelet is fascist

Thomas Martinez
Thomas Martinez

Yes it's a good idea

Owen Nelson
Owen Nelson

Crypto-fascist.

Ayden Morris
Ayden Morris

what would happen if she was prime minister

Nicholas Barnes
Nicholas Barnes

Yes, fascism is misunderstood by plebs. It's what bourgeois democracy turns into after the cartelization of finance capital leaves the major productive means of society in the hands of a few firms. After that the financiers are in the position to make the real decisions, and the role of the state becomes arbitrating and mediating between the factions of monopoly finance, and managing the workers in their interests.

Fascism is this type of political economy. It behaves a few different ways depending on the conditions-

ascendant, as in some parts of eastern europe, it presents itself as almost a sort of social democracy, with social programs and a strong sense of civic duty.

In power, but not totally secure, it unleashes a repressive terror (as all insecure dictatorships have to,) and tells workers bluntly: "get in the mines or die."

In power securely, fascism accomplished its task easily- the workers do their jobs, the financial cartels make their money, and the major civil matters are handled by the monopolists. Some mild dissent is even allowed.

Fascism is a political system created by a developmental stage of capital accumulation. Most western countries are fascist, or are comprador regimes. Netanyahu is fascist. Trump is fascist. Obama and Clinton were fascist. Trudeau and Merkel are fascist.

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Joshua Smith
Joshua Smith

Likud
inheritor to Lehi and Menachem Begin
Liberal
terrible bait

Thomas Morris
Thomas Morris

Nukes on Gaza,Ramallah,Lebanon,Syria,Iraq,Iran 10 mins after she's sworn in.

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Jack Allen
Jack Allen

Likud is inheritor to jabotinski not to Lehi , their ideology is the polar opposite of Lehi.
Likud types were the ones that fired on Lehi when they initially refused to disband

Charles Myers
Charles Myers

is that based?
what's lehi? i feel like i've heard of it before

Blake Long
Blake Long

No.
nytimes.com/interactive/2019/us/politics/israel-human-rights-democratic-candidates.html

Dominic Barnes
Dominic Barnes

Lehi were fascists/nazis

Carter Cook
Carter Cook

it was founded in 1973 by Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon in an alliance with several right-wing parties.
In 1942 he joined the Irgun (Etzel)

Begin's and Sharon's action don't look like muh center right to me.

Jaxson Stewart
Jaxson Stewart

fascists/nazis
what. what does that mean in the context of israel

Austin Sullivan
Austin Sullivan

Stern Gang is even more interesting. Actual Jewish fascists which wanted to ally with the Reich against the Anglo Menace and (((democracy))). But at the time, Mr Hilter didn't want to piss of his Arab allies and declined their proposals. Was some more geo-politics involved aswell which I can't remember. I think war had already broken out with the Soviet Union and of course war was already all over North Africa

Ryder Kelly
Ryder Kelly

Exactly what he said. Had world history gone down a little different, we'd have a 3rd Reich-Zionist alliance. It's one of those things that's hardly discussed, because it would divert from the evil mustache man wanted to conquer world and kill all the Jews then noble America came to save them all, etc.

Jayden Ortiz
Jayden Ortiz

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Samuel James
Samuel James

that's pretty interesting. thanks

Tyler Miller
Tyler Miller

They wanted to create a fascist regime , secure labensraum/ greater Israel and expel all foreigners from our lands

Jackson Brown
Jackson Brown

Unz had some articles about that recently. Also about 'Judeo-Bolshevism', 'holocaust denial laws' and 'bloody passover' in his American Pravda series. Might want to read them, if you are interested in that kind of stuff.

It literally is like reading western news as a soviet dissident, if you live in my country. 100% crime thought.

Easton Myers
Easton Myers

They had a great anthem, your kike language sounds pretty good i'll give you that.
youtube.com/watch?v=1u5Z0GZ1WsE

Isaac Gray
Isaac Gray

And that's bad, because...?

Zachary Williams
Zachary Williams

I wouldn't want to live in a left wing country , it would be shit
I admire and respect them for killing the an*Los that illegally occupied our land for 30 years but they have no place in actual israel.

Eli Garcia
Eli Garcia

Heil Lehi! Today Jerusalem, tomorrow the world!

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Austin Gutierrez
Austin Gutierrez

N*tanyajew is dead meat whom Hezbollah will frag soon.

Screencap this.

Easton Martinez
Easton Martinez

Muh National Socialism is left wing
are you a boomer?

But ofc there is literally nothing wrong with fighting the Anglo Menace.

Hunter Long
Hunter Long

Polish Jihadi

Jackson Wilson
Jackson Wilson

Fascism = super far left. Far right extreme is ancapism

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

but they have no place in actual israel.
Why? they were true nationalists and warriors, if they were in charge of Israel today I would sympathize with you way more.

Asher Fisher
Asher Fisher

Not, it literally isn't. If you want to go by the meme graph, NS is literally radical centrism.

But when it comes to the left-right dichotomy we have to go to first principlies, because even the diversion of the French General Assembly was just one time and is simply a meme.

Right-Wing: hierarchy, hereditary identity (culturally and genetics) and power systems, religion and a culture as an expression of the collective self and subconscious.

It's also why the USA was the first nation in which both major parties were actually on the political left. And ancapism, as a radical form of libertarianism, is actually on the poltical left.

Ian Evans
Ian Evans

Their left wing rule would have made us weak and poor ( as the rule of other socialists did historically)
Only we were a democracy so people learned at some point that that shit doesn't work and switched to superior right wing policies that made israel strong.

Ian Wilson
Ian Wilson

No real Euro-Zionism, as long as the leftist diaspora is fucking everything up. No matter who is in charge in Israel or the West.

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

I'm talking about the modern form of left/right
Left= big government, authoritarian, government controls markets. Worship poverty and want the country to be poor
Right= small government,freedom. Market is free and they want the country to prosper.

Christian Foster
Christian Foster

Their left wing rule
wtf are you talking about? prior to their autistic nazbol phase they were proud fascists.
I hate disapora jews with passion but ultimately I became aware that all diaspora people tend to be retarded, immigration is the cancer of the modern world.

Luke Murphy
Luke Murphy

Fascism is far left

Bentley Adams
Bentley Adams

I know what definition you used and I was trying to explain to you why it's a burger meme definition.

And there is free enterprise, private property and corporational industry under National Socialism. However the corporations are oblieged by a social contract to work in the interests of the common good and usuray is banned. Not too different from Social Market Economy, which is essentially a democratized and in the beginning under Ludwig Erhard libertarian version of the Volksgemeinschaft. Especially the economic policies of Hjalmar Schact were very effective and much more successful than Roosevelt's New Deal in glorious capitalist America. One of the primary factors for the buildup to WW2.

Granted, i don't know Irgun's economic ideas.

Lucas Fisher
Lucas Fisher

Nigger, it still isn't. Jesus. Did you grow up in the USA? What is this autism.

Carter Fisher
Carter Fisher

Fascism has a lot of different interpretations depending on the country and culture but it's generally recognized as economicaly centrist/center-left and socially far-right.
Fascism is in no way a far-left ideology.

Wyatt Howard
Wyatt Howard

the corporations are oblieged by a social contract to work in the interests of the common
So the government controls private corporations , that's communism which is left wing as I said
What you said is 'free Enterprise' is literally the opposite

John Wood
John Wood

Fascism is just economic far left combined with social far left under an authoritarian government

Brody Howard
Brody Howard

You really sound like a burger. There is a middle ground between neo-liberal, total deregulated capitalism and COMMUNISM you know.

Jayden Stewart
Jayden Stewart

There is no such thing
If the free market isn't free from government interference it's a communist regime.

Parker Diaz
Parker Diaz

Politics are not two-dimentional, you can be autoritarian and right-wing, also government interference in the economy was nothing to do with communism

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Carson Hall
Carson Hall

The fucking autism
Perfect dialogue for 5:30 in the morning.

Also: literally show a single situation where ancapistan existed outside Mad Max and a teenager larp fantasy.

Noah Anderson
Noah Anderson

If the free market isn't free from government interference it's a communist regime.
lole

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Parker Parker
Parker Parker

Well, all I can say is
pic related
is what Jewish fascism produces. Compare that to George Soros, or some Hollywood soykike and you got yourself a good scale of archetypes which either political system attracts.

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William Anderson
William Anderson

I never said it's an effective form of government. I just said ancapism is the most far- right you can realistically get.
I'm more of a night- watchman state libertarian that supports shit like state emergency medicine and firefighters.i do recognize that having state interference in the firefighting and emergency medicine is communism but I think if we restrict it to those sectors we'll be fine

Joseph Myers
Joseph Myers

Stern was kinda s o y desu
Pic related is a real patriot

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Alexander Gonzalez
Alexander Gonzalez

Jewish fascism is based the only good form of racial supremacy with the actual master race, unlike aryan soy boys with low iq

Jose Young
Jose Young

Since Islam is Fascism anybody that opposes muslim expansion is an Anti-Fascist.

Jason Bennett
Jason Bennett

.i do recognize that having state interference in the firefighting and emergency medicine is communism but I think if we restrict it to those sectors we'll be fine
LMAO Okay, this is turning into Seinfeld.

Nah, he looks like a Japanese burgermutt with a shaved off monobrow. Stern was aristocratic. Well defined, charismatic, clean cute feature without the fully developed decadence of the urbanite Jew. Although I admit it is there. But nearly as close as a real decadent kike like Michel Friedmann for example.

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Brandon Morales
Brandon Morales

Jewish fascism is based the only good form of racial supremacy with the actual master race, unlike aryan soy boys with low iq

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Owen Garcia
Owen Garcia

If you think Stern looks good you're blind bruh
Look at the nose
Zeev is far more aesthetic

Justin Perez
Justin Perez

That's particularly aristocratic in Stern's case. It is long, slender, yet romanized and not hook-nosed. Where with jabotinsky it is stubby and basically goyish. You can't even really tell he's a Jew. So basically a Mischling.

Chase Campbell
Chase Campbell

Stern doesn't look Jewish at all to me , maybe Italian . His nose is ugly as fuck and I'm not sure what you mean by aristocratic.
More then anything he just looks like a soya man trying to look impressive, he's not a natural Chad like our other leaders

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Jaxson Lee
Jaxson Lee

Well, Bibi turned from somewhat beachbro Chad to a goblin married to a goblina. It's actually quite tragic. And he's getting fat, too.

Nevertheless, Stern got shot by the Eternal Anglo menace

Press F to pay respects

Owen Ortiz
Owen Ortiz

I admire and respect them for killing the an*Los that illegally occupied our land for 30 years but they have no place in actual israel.
Do you think Jews have a place in Anglo lands?

Juan Powell
Juan Powell

Retard

Luis Brown
Luis Brown

bibi got snatched by an energy draining succubus but he's so chad that he's still relatively high energy.
he's the probably the head of state with the most kills in the world (as in personally killing people not ordering), or atlest the most kills in combat in case some dictator really loves executing prisoners or something. i served in a sayeret and trained with the matkal guys a few times and fought with them in 2014 and i gotta say those guys are probably the scariest army unit on earth.

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Dylan Baker
Dylan Baker

israel isnt anglo land, anglos told us if we helped them fight the ottomans they'd help us take our land back. we helped them, had a jewish army unit in the anglo army and the yeshuv spied on the ottomans for them and when the war was over the anglos backstabbed us

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Leo Howard
Leo Howard

I am more concenred about private contractors, because your units are bound to international law. At least in theory. If I ever get bombed for shitposting, it will be those contractors. But yeah, matkal looks interesting. Benjamin N. also lost his brother Yonathan in Entebbe. Explains his radical approach to politics, I think. All in all, it's quite sad your diaspora has to be so cancerous. Otherwise we could be genuine friends.

Elijah Foster
Elijah Foster

when the war was over the anglos backstabbed us
We truly never heard that story before

Nathaniel Gonzalez
Nathaniel Gonzalez

why would anyone bomb you for shitposting bruh ? i wasnt implying matkal is a danger to you or anything if you somehow interpreted that wrong.
why would anyone hire private contractors to fuck with you?
matkal guys are so spooky because even to an experienced soldier those guys look so well drilled that they seem like a hivemind together. there's always rumors about them and in recent years it's become quite apparent from public information that they can and do routinely get just about anywhere.

angl*s were at war with kra*toids and it was pretty much at a stalemate so they started promising shit to various peoples hoping to get allies in the war. they wanted to have the jews on their side in the war so they promised to give us our homeland back if we help them.

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Isaiah Martin
Isaiah Martin

Retard

Jace Flores
Jace Flores

why would anyone bomb you for shitposting bruh ?
Dunno, since that boomer went full retard on the synagogue and some other developments, the ADL and others went into full shut it down mode. And my own government went full retard aswell since the rise of the nu right. I got kinda paranoid. Especially since the burgers are making arrests now for (in minecraft) jokes.

But no, I know the Matkal guys are well trained.

James Lee
James Lee

this thread may be one of the most cancerous threads outside of /pol/ in recent memory, absolutely horrific quality
inane historical revisionism beyond the point of mental gymnastics, basic misunderstanding of political terms, random jingoism
i dont know about bibi, but the above posters certainly are fascists

Oliver Mitchell
Oliver Mitchell

The projection is strong in you

Mason Jones
Mason Jones

Dunno, since that boomer went full retard on the synagogue and some other developments
which one are you talking about ?
the ADL and others went into full shut it down mode.
isnt that some american satirical site that said pepe is racist ?
And my own government went full retard aswell since the rise of the nu right.
well yea modern germany is pretty fucking fascist, i almost got arrested in koln for doing a roman salute once. also the dudes on the train got super asshurt when i asked them if jews get to ride trains for free.

i guess you should feel paranoid but not from fucking israel bruh we're the most chill people on the planet.
why are you so asspained ?

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Isaiah Ortiz
Isaiah Ortiz

All the things he talks and he and his government do, point out that he's very authoritarian.

Juan Jenkins
Juan Jenkins

literally the opposite, likud are the liberals in the knesset.
bibi is basically the realistic version of feiglin, if likud had 120 mandates it would become the zehut party which is literally libertarian.
likud are center-libertarian on the libertarian-authoritarian scale

Bentley Baker
Bentley Baker

Based Hitler. All Jews are scum

Connor Cox
Connor Cox

Yeah, I know. I am mostly paranoid about my own government and its own retardation and the burgers behind it. And I think that Snyagogue boomer shooter was caled Bowers. Not sure, if he was actually consider such a big deal, or if he was mostly a media symbol.

Gabriel Morales
Gabriel Morales

Jews have no place in Palestine

Brody Anderson
Brody Anderson

you mean robert bowers ? the place he shot up wasnt actually a synagogue

Tyler Evans
Tyler Evans

wtf is palestine ?

Xavier Harris
Xavier Harris

Yes, Robert Bowers. And really? I thought he did. A snyagogue where HIAS supporters went to. And then there was this autistic /pol/tard this year, but he actually didn't even manage to kill anyone.

Kevin Sanchez
Kevin Sanchez

Land between river Jordan and the the Mediterranean sea

Bentley Ross
Bentley Ross

nah, those were americans LARPing as jews not actual jews
im between joran and the mediterranean and there's no palestine here

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Chase Torres
Chase Torres

The only illegal occupants were your grandparents swarming a neutral mandate like Mexican rats Moshe.

Oliver Bennett
Oliver Bennett

No. Maybe in your shithole he could be considered liberal, because the orthodox Jews are even more crazy, even though he supports annexing land, growing settlements, killing kids, having walls and heavy border control, having blockade on Gaza and making Palestinias' life very hard in every way. But in reality he's very authoritarian. Those things prove it. You haven't given me any explanation why he is liberal.

theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/10/netanyahu-vows-annex-large-parts-occupied-west-bank-trump

Joseph Hernandez
Joseph Hernandez

It's kind of strange, even the Republicans in the USA will make a point to go tour black neighborhoods, shake hands with blacks. This is basically the "white party" with over 90% of votes coming from whites, and yet they are still making an effort to win black and hispanic votes.

But I'm not seeing that from Netanyahu. Does he shake hands with arabs? Try his best to win arab votes? It really doesn't seem that way at all.

Parker Rogers
Parker Rogers

Just reading the article. Seems like we are splitting ultra-orthodx hairs here.

Bowers thought he was targeting a synagogue, the Jews in it considered it one, but it may not be by ultra-orthodox standards, yet

“I’ll say one simple thing: Any murder of a Jew in any corner of the world, because they are Jewish, is unforgivable, it’s a crime that cannot, under any circumstances, be ignored,” Lau told the Makor Rishon newspaper.

“They were killed because they were Jews. Does it matter which synagogue or liturgical tradition they pray in,” he said.

And especially since then pretty much anyone to the right of Crowder gets kicked off YouTube. And the push seems to come from the ADL.

Camden Parker
Camden Parker

The ADL is behind it all, they have connections to the Israeli government. They are mostly financed by Wall Street billionaires

Elijah Campbell
Elijah Campbell

I am aware of that. The question though is why they would even ban someone like James Allsup. He was literally as milquetoast as you can be.

Caleb Barnes
Caleb Barnes

This is not a new thing. They are slowly banning everyone. Starting from the bottom, and moving up the chain. They are trying to get it all rolled up and tucked away. They are smart, so they are doing it slowly, but they have a timeline that they are following. Eventually they want Jow Forums too

Michael Green
Michael Green

Shut the fuck up kike

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

One reason why I am paranoid. Only a year ago you could shitpost in peace. Now your freedom of speech is essentially dead and your FBI seems to be arresting people for obvious jokes, or just raiding them. It's probably better to treat your internet, which is the internet of the west, the same as Europe now. Which means the end of memes essentially....

Evan Brown
Evan Brown

supports annexing land
that's not liberal or illiberal. a leftist israeli government created a special administrative region that turned out into a failed dictatorship with no freedom of speech, no rights for anyone and a leader that suspended elections after his term was done 9 years ago.
if anything restoring proper government is liberal.
growing settlements
building houses in your country is illiberal ? wtf ?
killing kids
the only ones that support the killing of kids are the terrorists that operate next to them and know they'll be collateral damage.
having walls and heavy border control
that's not illiberal that's just law enforcement, illegally crossing the border is a crime anywhere and when those criminals are also terrorist that want to murder people a good border is a good investment, has nothing to do with being or not being liberal.

having blockade on Gaza
gaza is a terrorist state that actively attacks us daily, blockading them is just common sense. again has nothing to do with liberalism.

i dont think you understand what liberalism means, israelis enjoy freedom of speech,freedom of movement, property rights and so on and all israelis are treated equally before the law, the principles that gave rise to our rights and freedoms and us being equal are liberalism.

Camden Rogers
Camden Rogers

I will say this, the 1st amendment is ironclad. The only thing they can do is get you doxxed and fired. But you aren't going to prison unless you are threatening imminent violence, or planning something.

Believe it or not, I'm allowed to say that I want an entire group genocided, it's covered by the 1st amendment, so long as I'm not threatening a specific individual in an imminent way.

But yeah, this is how the system works. It's soft power. They wield their strength through financial institutions, propaganda, legal organizations....etc. It's not a boot on your neck, it's more like a leash.

Juan Morales
Juan Morales

well that rabbi cucked because he was pressured but in reality that was no synagogue and none of the people in it were jews.
calling that attack antisemitic is like calling the 9/11 attacks islamophobic.

Easton Clark
Easton Clark

Based.

Landon Cruz
Landon Cruz

israelis enjoy freedom of speech,freedom of movement, property rights and so on and all israelis are treated equally before the law, the principles that gave rise to our rights and freedoms and us being equal are liberalism.
As long as you are Jewish. Netanyahu himself said, "Israel is not a nation of all its people".

Sebastian Jenkins
Sebastian Jenkins

Okay NOW I am really confused. And weren't the people murdered ethnically Jewish?

Joseph Garcia
Joseph Garcia

STOP YOURE RACIST FUCK YOU

Jonathan Wood
Jonathan Wood

no nation is a nation 'of all it's people' . nations are nations of their respective nationalities.
As long as you are Jewish.
that's bullshit bruh, all citizens are equal under the law. that's in our declaration of independence, that's in our basic law (basically constitution) and that is reflected in everyday reality in israel.

Kayden Nelson
Kayden Nelson

Killing brits is center af.

Bentley Turner
Bentley Turner

there's really no such thing as ethnically jewish, how would you define it ? everyone that descended from abraham ? everyone on earth probably has like 0.00000000001%.
there are very clear rules in jewish tradition on who is or isnt jewish and those people are not, they're basically LARPing american goyim.

apparently in USA it's very common to LARP as jewish.

Wyatt Cox
Wyatt Cox

I know. That applies to Americans. Not sure how and what applies to lowly Yuropoors though. I actually enjoyed talking to all the vastly different thinkin people over the years, but I think that era is coming to an end desu

And what was the new nation state law about then? From what I heard, it was essentially about getting rid of Arabs from Israel and stripping them of some of their rights.

Christopher Thompson
Christopher Thompson

I don't see why random unassociated people need to be punished because of one nutcase.

This is like what happened locally, where a jewish lady was going around putting up fliers to make people stop handing out peanut butter candy on Halloween, because her kids had a peanut allergy. So apparently everybody on the entire block had to change their behavior, just for her. It's the tyranny of a minority. It's like closing a skating rink because wheelchair people are left out.

If you can see what I'm trying to say, this is a fundamentally jewish impulse. Seeing the entire society like something that is against them, and everyone everywhere needs to always accommodate them no matter how much it interferes with their lives. Pushy, obnoxious, self-centered people. And even worse, they see everyone collectively. So somehow in their logic, James Allsup is responsible for Robert Bowers.

Isaac Moore
Isaac Moore

bibi aren't you supposed to be campaigning right now

Lincoln Turner
Lincoln Turner

there's really no such thing as ethnically jewish, how would you define it ?
Gene clustering and genetic testing, I guess. But there's indeed a lot of non-practicing "Jews" in the USA. I mean the Rabbi and adelson said so: the greatest threats are apathy, assimilation and not caring about Israel.

Tyler Reyes
Tyler Reyes

the nation state law was literally nothing.
our basic laws are based on the declaration of Independence and the declaration of Independence clearly states that israel is the country of the jewish people. while other things from the declaration were made into actual laws making them more official that part wasnt until recently.
it was never under any doubt that this is the case it just wasnt stated in basic law. they passed it into basic law to clarify things.

the fact that you're saying it's
essentially about getting rid of Arabs from Israel and stripping them of some of their rights.
i can tell that you've been reading far-left propaganda because that's what they wrote in all their publications.

Robert Price
Robert Price

Well, if you say Israel is the state of the Jewish people, which seems understandable, then you are an ethno-religious state though. So what's the status of the Arabs in Israel?

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

hamas was elected, hamas represents the gazan people and the gazan people want siege and conflict with israel so they get what they want.if attacks against israel stopped permanently the siege could be lifted.
if i have any criticism towards netanyahu it is that's hes being FAR too leniant towards hamas. all their water and electricity come from israel and they are years behind on payments if i was in charge i would cut them off from both until they pay all their debts.
if they want war they can have it without our water and electricity.

Parker Cruz
Parker Cruz

just like humans evolved on an individual level, we also evolved group-behavior.
Gather a group of gazelle, or lions, or fish together, you will see group-behavior that emerges. Groups evolve as well as individuals. And that is true for humans.

Jews fundamentally evolved a parasite-strategy. That is the main problem here.
The group-behavior of jews is always parasitic, harmful to the host nation, in every case, it's their fundamental nature.

Evan Rodriguez
Evan Rodriguez

Jews fundamentally evolved a parasite-strategy. That is the main problem here.
The group-behavior of jews is always parasitic, harmful to the host nation, in every case, it's their fundamental nature.
Explain Israel then.

Austin Thompson
Austin Thompson

youtube.com/watch?v=TOaxAckFCuQ

Dominic Bell
Dominic Bell

I would have no problem with Israel at all, except the fact they have their teeth in the neck of America. How many Americans died for them in Iraq? Fuck them so much

Daniel Gonzalez
Daniel Gonzalez

the practical difference is that jews get a right of return to their homeland given that the basic law stated that it is their country. the right of return predates the nation state law by more then half a century because the nation state declaration in the declaration of independence was always presumed to be interpreted as law.
the status of arabs is the same after as it was before the nation state law.

Nicholas Cooper
Nicholas Cooper

He's an amerimutt with 1/4 German ancestry who thinks he's connecting to his ancestors by following a crazy ideology which resulted in Germany's downfall. If he was actually a German patriot, he would have pride in pre-WWI Germany, which was glorious.

Kevin Hill
Kevin Hill

Or maybe what I'm saying is actually correct, and instead of trying to psychologize me, you should listen and consider

Ryan Torres
Ryan Torres

nah you're far from correct

Jose Wright
Jose Wright

Where the fuck am I?

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Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

Alright, that's a legal term. But do you consider the Arab citizens inside of Israel part of your nation? And if not, why do you have a problem, if Europeans want to have the same laws that would declare that Germany is the nation of the German people, Italy for the Italians, France for the French and so forth?

Well, I am interested what the Occidental Observer guys have to say about Israel then. Since it is a state built by and for Jews. Doesn't look parasistical to me and wouldn't work, if it was.

Henry Perez
Henry Perez

No that can't be allowed, because that excludes jews. And we can't have that.
See the hypocrisy? A nation for me, but not for thee.

Justin Parker
Justin Parker

Israel is the second most based nation in the world after Japan. It's sad that most developed nations are embracing suicidal behaviour en-masse. Israel and Japan may have many flaws, but at least they are open to the idea that it might not be a good idea for the Jews and Japanese respectively to become minorities in their own nations.

How about you make an ethnostate faggot rather than sitting on your swamparse bitching about da joos. I bet ya bottom dollar that Netanyahu wouldn't give a shit as long as you send the Jews to Israel rather than attempt genocide.

Matthew Collins
Matthew Collins

is Netanyahu a fascist?
His party isn't the only party allowed, nor he is a supreme leader. He doesn't oppose liberalism and democracy, nor restricting minorities' rights such as being able to vote, work in every sector etc.
So no, he isn't a fascist per definition, at best he's a nationalist

Isaiah Adams
Isaiah Adams

Why don't you explain why the ADL and various affiliated jewish organizations are spending 100's of millions of dollars, working day and night, to make sure nothing like that ever happens, or even gets talked about? You can probably say goodbye to Jow Forums in a few years because of these psychos

Noah Carter
Noah Carter

That's what I heard often from your side. I'd still like to know what an Israel thinks about it. It's never wrong to question, if what you perceive and are told is actually correct.

We obviously love Japan. The difference though is: Japanese diaspora doesn't tell us to open our borders, stop being Islamophobic, embrace mutli-culturalism, intermarry as much as possible and dominate western media though. That's the difference.

Wyatt Hall
Wyatt Hall

after the cartelization of finance capital leaves the major productive means of society in the hands of a few firm
I understand your impulse, but that's not exactly what happened with with Nazi fascism at least. Germany wasn't overloaded with monopolies before the Nazis, it had a diverse, crashing economy wherein big companies were declaring bankruptcy and falling apart because of inflation in the early 1920s and the depression in 1929. few german companies were profiting off those events - it was international countries who were able to take advantage of currency fluctuations. In 1931 the (very moderate) Social Democrat government had no choice but to bail out the biggest steel conglomerate. It was only after the rise of the fascists that industry became more cartelized, but only so that it could be centrally governed by the nazi party.

I think you're right that there's an totalitarian all-controlling urge in the cartelization of modern companies. people's "habits" must be perfectly predicted for the centrally-run economy of a single company. and what is the different between predicting someone's behavior and controlling it?

I think both things have the same root, but I don't think cartelization is the cause of fascism. I think the latter might be true. fascism is at least one of several causes for cartelization.

I can't provide you with an alternate theory for what causes fascism though.

Austin Rogers
Austin Rogers

It doesn't matter, Israel is ruled by crazy ethno-centric religious psychos. And the more religious and psycho they are, the more children they have. So you can expect that trend to double every generation. If you can find a few who see reason they are a drop in the bucket

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

But do you consider the Arab citizens inside of Israel part of your nation?
what do you mean 'part of your nation' ? as you said they're fucking citizens they have their own political parties ,serve in the army, run for knesset, hold elected offices and so on.

i would even argue that they're illegitimately being treated better then regular israelis because they receive the same things from the state as we do but do do not perform the duty of service. they also have government mandated easier standards to get into government funded universities which i think should be removed and so on.
last elections i voted for feiglin which says that citizenship (as in the right to vote and hold elected office) should only be given to those who swear allegiance to israel and do their national\army service. this would balance things since now if they dont perform their civic duty they wont get their citizenship.

if Europeans want to have the same laws that would declare that Germany is the nation of the German people, Italy for the Italians, France for the French and so forth?
sure why not ? if you can have a good operational definition of what a german,french,italian is so your foreign ministry can actually decide who to give citizenships to if they come asking.

Sebastian Watson
Sebastian Watson

ADL is an american organization not israeli

Ayden Ortiz
Ayden Ortiz

Oh come on, don't give me that. It's your people, living in New York City.

If I were a radical Polish nationalist and I moved to Britain, I would magically become the most left wing person on Earth. Tear down British monuments, increase welfare (to Poles!), reject British history, open Britain's borders. I'm not advocating this because I believe in it, but because I hate Britain and want to undermine them. This left wing stuff just targets a population for destruction.

That's exactly what's going on here. Jews in America are super left wing, trying to undermine and tear it all down. And in Israel they are super right wing, push out all the foreigners, expand the borders....etc. It's pretty obvious what's going on here.

Michael Price
Michael Price

ethno-centric religious psychos
Seems a broad generalization for so many people. And evangelicals or muslims don't seem really more reasonable to me.

Okay, that's what I also heard about the Arabs inside of Israel. Seems reasonable enough. Tbh the whole Palestine/Israel conflict is none of my business anyway. That is entirely between you and the Arabs.

if you can have a good operational definition of what a german,french,italian is so your foreign ministry can actually decide who to give citizenships to if they come asking.
What it was for centuries, for millenia now: genetic heritage obviously. You would be able to become culturally German, Italian, European. But that is rather a rare case where that is actually true, although it does exist. And I'd probably have similar ideas what requirements would be for citizenship, if you are not genetically German in Germany: an oath of loyalty and no dual loyalties, no special right and entirely self-fundet existence for yourself and your family. We should probably bring back the draft, too, and you have to serve in the military, if you want to apply for citizenship.

Elijah Rivera
Elijah Rivera

the whole Palestine/Israel conflict is none of my business anyway. That is entirely between you and the Arabs.
this isnt a conflict inside of israel. israeli arabs outside of rare loners not violent against the rest of us. they have more rights and a better quality of life then any arab in the middle east. there's even many non druze arabs that are getting redpilled and nationalist and are enlisting in the army voluntarily because they dont want to be freeloaders and want the respect that a proper israeli law abiding army serving citizen gets.
the conflict is with groups outside israel like gaza or lebanon or special administrative areas in israel like the west bank. the west bank is much less violent in recent years which is why many in the goverment want to abolish the oslo accords and annex it back into israel. we will liberate those people who are living under a failed fascist palestinian regime with no rights and hopefully turn them into how the rest of the arabs in israel are which is peaceful and prosperous.

What it was for centuries, for millenia now: genetic heritage obviously.
do you really want to define your nationality on genetics ? what if some guy is the most german person you know but his family dosnt have the specific genes you defined as german ? what if future germans genetically modify themselves for various reasons and happen to change the genes that you now define as the definition of german ?
defining a nationality on genes is quite the slippery slope. i'd say simply have the regular stuff which is any descendant of a german is considered german and people can undergo naturalization if they give up foreign citizenship, pledge allegiance to germany and can pass some test of the principals,culture and history of germany.

We should probably bring back the draft, too, and you have to serve in the military, if you want to apply for citizenship.
dont you already have mandatory service for a few months ?

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Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

As long as we aren't flooded with violent Arabs, I have no real vested interests in the Middle East. I may or may not like what you do in the West Bank, but at the end of the day that is Israel's business, not mine.

do you really want to define your nationality on genetics ?
Basically, but I am not an autistic materialist. So essentially you would have to be the descendant of Germans for generation. But you have to define a German somehow. So genetics comes to mind. Or ancestral records is also a possibility.
what if some guy is the most german person you know but his family dosnt have the specific genes you defined as german ?
Well, as I said, there could be an optiona to become a Culture-German, which you would earn like a medal or through service towards the nation. And those cases where this is really the case are so rare, that it wouldn' matter in the grand scheme of things. Of course there is the whole history with the Nuremberg laws and all that. But that is basically a century ago now and has literally nothing to do with us today where 30% of the births in Wiesbaden are already Muslim and it gets continuously worse and worse.
what if future germans genetically modify themselves for various reasons and happen to change the genes that you now define as the definition of german ?
basically sci-fi larping. once we go full post-human, who knows if races, peoples, humanity even matters. but the same was promised with prosthetics and nano tech and none of that happened. at all.

dont you already have mandatory service for a few months ?
We had that and a good army in the Cold War. It was abolished, the army is in an abominable state and we live in a feminist Matriarchy now. But your lefty Jews seem to enjoy the veganism, gay-bars and moccachinos in Berlin....

Elijah Ramirez
Elijah Ramirez

how would you define it ? everyone that descended from abraham ?

Everyone who descends from isaac and yes.

Jose Nguyen
Jose Nguyen

what they do in west bank and rest of the middle east, one way or another, causes you to get flooded with arabs. same applies to other countries. whole world is much more intertwined compared to 100 years ago you cannot simply turn a blind eye anymore.

Luke Murphy
Luke Murphy

Silly cockroach, it's not the Joos fault that Arabs are aboslute savages.

Brandon Long
Brandon Long

no need to be angry about truth.

Robert Barnes
Robert Barnes

Lol, jews being greedy, news at eleven.

Luis Johnson
Luis Johnson

He believes in nothing but in being of a noble breed which deserves to rule.

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Adrian Wilson

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Brody Butler
Brody Butler

What it was for centuries, for millenia now: genetic heritage obviously.

Really? A millenia ago the German nation was ruled by kings, who had subjects, certainly a lot of these subjects were assimilated trough conquest into the German nation. So whatever the German nation is today is of a different character then the original Proto-Germanic tribes. No doubt there is a core of the 'German' and it manifests itself trough both the German language and tribes, but the rigid genetic structure you give is too restricted and ignores hundreds of years of assimilation of people who at some point would have been outside of the German core.

I think that the problem with your line of thinking is that you are too localized in time and conscious of identity as something that does not evolve over time.

Lucas Anderson
Lucas Anderson

As for Israel, they are in the position of defining themselves as a nation-state as invaders of a land the majority of the population has no ties to other than the religious connection that gives them legitimacy.

It truly is a mind blowing concept that Zionism was a successful political project, given that it can only be legitimized by the acceptance that religious conviction can serve as the foundation for a nation. It is difficult to accept this as morally correct because this legitimization hinges on the acceptance of the divine law and special relationship between God and the Jews.

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