Is Netanyahu a fascist?

Yes, fascism is misunderstood by plebs. It's what bourgeois democracy turns into after the cartelization of finance capital leaves the major productive means of society in the hands of a few firms. After that the financiers are in the position to make the real decisions, and the role of the state becomes arbitrating and mediating between the factions of monopoly finance, and managing the workers in their interests.

Fascism is this type of political economy. It behaves a few different ways depending on the conditions-

ascendant, as in some parts of eastern europe, it presents itself as almost a sort of social democracy, with social programs and a strong sense of civic duty.

In power, but not totally secure, it unleashes a repressive terror (as all insecure dictatorships have to,) and tells workers bluntly: "get in the mines or die."

In power securely, fascism accomplished its task easily- the workers do their jobs, the financial cartels make their money, and the major civil matters are handled by the monopolists. Some mild dissent is even allowed.

Fascism is a political system created by a developmental stage of capital accumulation. Most western countries are fascist, or are comprador regimes. Netanyahu is fascist. Trump is fascist. Obama and Clinton were fascist. Trudeau and Merkel are fascist.

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>Likud
>inheritor to Lehi and Menachem Begin
>Liberal
terrible bait

Nukes on Gaza,Ramallah,Lebanon,Syria,Iraq,Iran 10 mins after she's sworn in.

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Likud is inheritor to jabotinski not to Lehi , their ideology is the polar opposite of Lehi.
Likud types were the ones that fired on Lehi when they initially refused to disband

is that based?
what's lehi? i feel like i've heard of it before

No.
nytimes.com/interactive/2019/us/politics/israel-human-rights-democratic-candidates.html

Lehi were fascists/nazis

>it was founded in 1973 by Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon in an alliance with several right-wing parties.
>In 1942 he joined the Irgun (Etzel)

Begin's and Sharon's action don't look like muh center right to me.

>fascists/nazis
what. what does that mean in the context of israel

Stern Gang is even more interesting. Actual Jewish fascists which wanted to ally with the Reich against the Anglo Menace and (((democracy))). But at the time, Mr Hilter didn't want to piss of his Arab allies and declined their proposals. Was some more geo-politics involved aswell which I can't remember. I think war had already broken out with the Soviet Union and of course war was already all over North Africa

Exactly what he said. Had world history gone down a little different, we'd have a 3rd Reich-Zionist alliance. It's one of those things that's hardly discussed, because it would divert from the evil mustache man wanted to conquer world and kill all the Jews then noble America came to save them all, etc.

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that's pretty interesting. thanks

They wanted to create a fascist regime , secure labensraum/ greater Israel and expel all foreigners from our lands

Unz had some articles about that recently. Also about 'Judeo-Bolshevism', 'holocaust denial laws' and 'bloody passover' in his American Pravda series. Might want to read them, if you are interested in that kind of stuff.

It literally is like reading western news as a soviet dissident, if you live in my country. 100% crime thought.

They had a great anthem, your kike language sounds pretty good i'll give you that.
youtube.com/watch?v=1u5Z0GZ1WsE

And that's bad, because...?

I wouldn't want to live in a left wing country , it would be shit
I admire and respect them for killing the an*Los that illegally occupied our land for 30 years but they have no place in actual israel.

Heil Lehi! Today Jerusalem, tomorrow the world!

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N*tanyajew is dead meat whom Hezbollah will frag soon.

Screencap this.

>Muh National Socialism is left wing
are you a boomer?

But ofc there is literally nothing wrong with fighting the Anglo Menace.

>Polish Jihadi

Fascism = super far left. Far right extreme is ancapism

>but they have no place in actual israel.
Why? they were true nationalists and warriors, if they were in charge of Israel today I would sympathize with you way more.

Not, it literally isn't. If you want to go by the meme graph, NS is literally radical centrism.

But when it comes to the left-right dichotomy we have to go to first principlies, because even the diversion of the French General Assembly was just one time and is simply a meme.

Right-Wing: hierarchy, hereditary identity (culturally and genetics) and power systems, religion and a culture as an expression of the collective self and subconscious.

It's also why the USA was the first nation in which both major parties were actually on the political left. And ancapism, as a radical form of libertarianism, is actually on the poltical left.

Their left wing rule would have made us weak and poor ( as the rule of other socialists did historically)
Only we were a democracy so people learned at some point that that shit doesn't work and switched to superior right wing policies that made israel strong.

No real Euro-Zionism, as long as the leftist diaspora is fucking everything up. No matter who is in charge in Israel or the West.

I'm talking about the modern form of left/right
Left= big government, authoritarian, government controls markets. Worship poverty and want the country to be poor
Right= small government,freedom. Market is free and they want the country to prosper.

>Their left wing rule
wtf are you talking about? prior to their autistic nazbol phase they were proud fascists.
I hate disapora jews with passion but ultimately I became aware that all diaspora people tend to be retarded, immigration is the cancer of the modern world.

Fascism is far left

I know what definition you used and I was trying to explain to you why it's a burger meme definition.

And there is free enterprise, private property and corporational industry under National Socialism. However the corporations are oblieged by a social contract to work in the interests of the common good and usuray is banned. Not too different from Social Market Economy, which is essentially a democratized and in the beginning under Ludwig Erhard libertarian version of the Volksgemeinschaft. Especially the economic policies of Hjalmar Schact were very effective and much more successful than Roosevelt's New Deal in glorious capitalist America. One of the primary factors for the buildup to WW2.

Granted, i don't know Irgun's economic ideas.

Nigger, it still isn't. Jesus. Did you grow up in the USA? What is this autism.

Fascism has a lot of different interpretations depending on the country and culture but it's generally recognized as economicaly centrist/center-left and socially far-right.
Fascism is in no way a far-left ideology.

>the corporations are oblieged by a social contract to work in the interests of the common
So the government controls private corporations , that's communism which is left wing as I said
What you said is 'free Enterprise' is literally the opposite

Fascism is just economic far left combined with social far left under an authoritarian government

You really sound like a burger. There is a middle ground between neo-liberal, total deregulated capitalism and COMMUNISM you know.

There is no such thing
If the free market isn't free from government interference it's a communist regime.

Politics are not two-dimentional, you can be autoritarian and right-wing, also government interference in the economy was nothing to do with communism

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>The fucking autism
Perfect dialogue for 5:30 in the morning.

Also: literally show a single situation where ancapistan existed outside Mad Max and a teenager larp fantasy.

>If the free market isn't free from government interference it's a communist regime.
lole

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Well, all I can say is
>pic related
is what Jewish fascism produces. Compare that to George Soros, or some Hollywood soykike and you got yourself a good scale of archetypes which either political system attracts.

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I never said it's an effective form of government. I just said ancapism is the most far- right you can realistically get.
I'm more of a night- watchman state libertarian that supports shit like state emergency medicine and firefighters.i do recognize that having state interference in the firefighting and emergency medicine is communism but I think if we restrict it to those sectors we'll be fine

Stern was kinda s o y desu
Pic related is a real patriot

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Jewish fascism is based the only good form of racial supremacy with the actual master race, unlike aryan soy boys with low iq

Since Islam is Fascism anybody that opposes muslim expansion is an Anti-Fascist.

>.i do recognize that having state interference in the firefighting and emergency medicine is communism but I think if we restrict it to those sectors we'll be fine
LMAO Okay, this is turning into Seinfeld.

Nah, he looks like a Japanese burgermutt with a shaved off monobrow. Stern was aristocratic. Well defined, charismatic, clean cute feature without the fully developed decadence of the urbanite Jew. Although I admit it is there. But nearly as close as a real decadent kike like Michel Friedmann for example.

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>Jewish fascism is based the only good form of racial supremacy with the actual master race, unlike aryan soy boys with low iq

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If you think Stern looks good you're blind bruh
Look at the nose
Zeev is far more aesthetic

That's particularly aristocratic in Stern's case. It is long, slender, yet romanized and not hook-nosed. Where with jabotinsky it is stubby and basically goyish. You can't even really tell he's a Jew. So basically a Mischling.

Stern doesn't look Jewish at all to me , maybe Italian . His nose is ugly as fuck and I'm not sure what you mean by aristocratic.
More then anything he just looks like a soya man trying to look impressive, he's not a natural Chad like our other leaders

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Well, Bibi turned from somewhat beachbro Chad to a goblin married to a goblina. It's actually quite tragic. And he's getting fat, too.

Nevertheless, Stern got shot by the Eternal Anglo menace

Press F to pay respects

>I admire and respect them for killing the an*Los that illegally occupied our land for 30 years but they have no place in actual israel.
Do you think Jews have a place in Anglo lands?

Retard

bibi got snatched by an energy draining succubus but he's so chad that he's still relatively high energy.
he's the probably the head of state with the most kills in the world (as in personally killing people not ordering), or atlest the most kills in combat in case some dictator really loves executing prisoners or something. i served in a sayeret and trained with the matkal guys a few times and fought with them in 2014 and i gotta say those guys are probably the scariest army unit on earth.

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israel isnt anglo land, anglos told us if we helped them fight the ottomans they'd help us take our land back. we helped them, had a jewish army unit in the anglo army and the yeshuv spied on the ottomans for them and when the war was over the anglos backstabbed us

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I am more concenred about private contractors, because your units are bound to international law. At least in theory. If I ever get bombed for shitposting, it will be those contractors. But yeah, matkal looks interesting. Benjamin N. also lost his brother Yonathan in Entebbe. Explains his radical approach to politics, I think. All in all, it's quite sad your diaspora has to be so cancerous. Otherwise we could be genuine friends.

>when the war was over the anglos backstabbed us
We truly never heard that story before

why would anyone bomb you for shitposting bruh ? i wasnt implying matkal is a danger to you or anything if you somehow interpreted that wrong.
why would anyone hire private contractors to fuck with you?
matkal guys are so spooky because even to an experienced soldier those guys look so well drilled that they seem like a hivemind together. there's always rumors about them and in recent years it's become quite apparent from public information that they can and do routinely get just about anywhere.

angl*s were at war with kra*toids and it was pretty much at a stalemate so they started promising shit to various peoples hoping to get allies in the war. they wanted to have the jews on their side in the war so they promised to give us our homeland back if we help them.

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Retard

>why would anyone bomb you for shitposting bruh ?
Dunno, since that boomer went full retard on the synagogue and some other developments, the ADL and others went into full shut it down mode. And my own government went full retard aswell since the rise of the nu right. I got kinda paranoid. Especially since the burgers are making arrests now for (in minecraft) jokes.

But no, I know the Matkal guys are well trained.

this thread may be one of the most cancerous threads outside of Jow Forums in recent memory, absolutely horrific quality
inane historical revisionism beyond the point of mental gymnastics, basic misunderstanding of political terms, random jingoism
i dont know about bibi, but the above posters certainly are fascists

The projection is strong in you

>Dunno, since that boomer went full retard on the synagogue and some other developments
which one are you talking about ?
>the ADL and others went into full shut it down mode.
isnt that some american satirical site that said pepe is racist ?
> And my own government went full retard aswell since the rise of the nu right.
well yea modern germany is pretty fucking fascist, i almost got arrested in koln for doing a roman salute once. also the dudes on the train got super asshurt when i asked them if jews get to ride trains for free.

i guess you should feel paranoid but not from fucking israel bruh we're the most chill people on the planet.
why are you so asspained ?

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All the things he talks and he and his government do, point out that he's very authoritarian.

literally the opposite, likud are the liberals in the knesset.
bibi is basically the realistic version of feiglin, if likud had 120 mandates it would become the zehut party which is literally libertarian.
likud are center-libertarian on the libertarian-authoritarian scale

Based Hitler. All Jews are scum

Yeah, I know. I am mostly paranoid about my own government and its own retardation and the burgers behind it. And I think that Snyagogue boomer shooter was caled Bowers. Not sure, if he was actually consider such a big deal, or if he was mostly a media symbol.

Jews have no place in Palestine

you mean robert bowers ? the place he shot up wasnt actually a synagogue

wtf is palestine ?

Yes, Robert Bowers. And really? I thought he did. A snyagogue where HIAS supporters went to. And then there was this autistic Jow Forumstard this year, but he actually didn't even manage to kill anyone.

Land between river Jordan and the the Mediterranean sea

nah, those were americans LARPing as jews not actual jews
im between joran and the mediterranean and there's no palestine here

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The only illegal occupants were your grandparents swarming a neutral mandate like Mexican rats Moshe.

No. Maybe in your shithole he could be considered liberal, because the orthodox Jews are even more crazy, even though he supports annexing land, growing settlements, killing kids, having walls and heavy border control, having blockade on Gaza and making Palestinias' life very hard in every way. But in reality he's very authoritarian. Those things prove it. You haven't given me any explanation why he is liberal.

theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/10/netanyahu-vows-annex-large-parts-occupied-west-bank-trump

It's kind of strange, even the Republicans in the USA will make a point to go tour black neighborhoods, shake hands with blacks. This is basically the "white party" with over 90% of votes coming from whites, and yet they are still making an effort to win black and hispanic votes.

But I'm not seeing that from Netanyahu. Does he shake hands with arabs? Try his best to win arab votes? It really doesn't seem that way at all.

Just reading the article. Seems like we are splitting ultra-orthodx hairs here.

Bowers thought he was targeting a synagogue, the Jews in it considered it one, but it may not be by ultra-orthodox standards, yet

>“I’ll say one simple thing: Any murder of a Jew in any corner of the world, because they are Jewish, is unforgivable, it’s a crime that cannot, under any circumstances, be ignored,” Lau told the Makor Rishon newspaper.

>“They were killed because they were Jews. Does it matter which synagogue or liturgical tradition they pray in,” he said.

And especially since then pretty much anyone to the right of Crowder gets kicked off YouTube. And the push seems to come from the ADL.

The ADL is behind it all, they have connections to the Israeli government. They are mostly financed by Wall Street billionaires

I am aware of that. The question though is why they would even ban someone like James Allsup. He was literally as milquetoast as you can be.

This is not a new thing. They are slowly banning everyone. Starting from the bottom, and moving up the chain. They are trying to get it all rolled up and tucked away. They are smart, so they are doing it slowly, but they have a timeline that they are following. Eventually they want Jow Forums too

Shut the fuck up kike

One reason why I am paranoid. Only a year ago you could shitpost in peace. Now your freedom of speech is essentially dead and your FBI seems to be arresting people for obvious jokes, or just raiding them. It's probably better to treat your internet, which is the internet of the west, the same as Europe now. Which means the end of memes essentially....

> supports annexing land
that's not liberal or illiberal. a leftist israeli government created a special administrative region that turned out into a failed dictatorship with no freedom of speech, no rights for anyone and a leader that suspended elections after his term was done 9 years ago.
if anything restoring proper government is liberal.
>growing settlements
building houses in your country is illiberal ? wtf ?
>killing kids
the only ones that support the killing of kids are the terrorists that operate next to them and know they'll be collateral damage.
>having walls and heavy border control
that's not illiberal that's just law enforcement, illegally crossing the border is a crime anywhere and when those criminals are also terrorist that want to murder people a good border is a good investment, has nothing to do with being or not being liberal.

>having blockade on Gaza
gaza is a terrorist state that actively attacks us daily, blockading them is just common sense. again has nothing to do with liberalism.

i dont think you understand what liberalism means, israelis enjoy freedom of speech,freedom of movement, property rights and so on and all israelis are treated equally before the law, the principles that gave rise to our rights and freedoms and us being equal are liberalism.

I will say this, the 1st amendment is ironclad. The only thing they can do is get you doxxed and fired. But you aren't going to prison unless you are threatening imminent violence, or planning something.

Believe it or not, I'm allowed to say that I want an entire group genocided, it's covered by the 1st amendment, so long as I'm not threatening a specific individual in an imminent way.

But yeah, this is how the system works. It's soft power. They wield their strength through financial institutions, propaganda, legal organizations....etc. It's not a boot on your neck, it's more like a leash.

well that rabbi cucked because he was pressured but in reality that was no synagogue and none of the people in it were jews.
calling that attack antisemitic is like calling the 9/11 attacks islamophobic.

Based.

>israelis enjoy freedom of speech,freedom of movement, property rights and so on and all israelis are treated equally before the law, the principles that gave rise to our rights and freedoms and us being equal are liberalism.
As long as you are Jewish. Netanyahu himself said, "Israel is not a nation of all its people".

Okay NOW I am really confused. And weren't the people murdered ethnically Jewish?

STOP YOURE RACIST FUCK YOU

no nation is a nation 'of all it's people' . nations are nations of their respective nationalities.
>As long as you are Jewish.
that's bullshit bruh, all citizens are equal under the law. that's in our declaration of independence, that's in our basic law (basically constitution) and that is reflected in everyday reality in israel.