Do Americans really though?

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>all white
Thank god. Hopefully NYC has a measles epidemic and wipes them all out.

>the vaccinated children need to be protected from the unvaccinated ones

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>God is my govoner
>govoner

Our antivaxxers are based. They were involuntarily vaccined by the government so they are just killing zoomers

If vaccines cause autism why don't older kids become autistic when they get shots?

Imagine if preventable diseases just swarmed down on all of them because they congregated for these protests

WOAH VACCINES WOAH MEDICINE

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Some vaccines only work about 85% of the time. Anything above 80% gives herd immunity (as long as everyone gets vaccine) since in a rare case someone with the disease enters population, the chance of that person being able to pass the illness to someone because they just happened upon the unlucky person who didn't develop immunity despite getting the vaccine is very low.

Deliberately not getting the vaccine is pushing down the percentage of people with immunity below 80% in a lot of places in the U.S., and that's why people are dying from previously irradicated illness now .

unvaccinated gigachads infect soyjaks tiers with immune systems so weak they cant even fight shit off even with the help vaccines

*soyjak tiers
*help of
WOAH PROOFREADING

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Yes, we look like this.
Yes, we eat hamburgers.
Yes, we own guns.
Yes, we are richer than you.
Yes, you are our vassal state and subject.

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>God is my govonor
>Govonor

>all those posters
gesú cristo, it's like they live to contradict themselves

vaccination to form herd immunity is a totalitarian policy that undermines freedom, the first step to communism, and real americans are hard-wired to stand up to commies.

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Parents who refuse to vaccinate should have their children taken away from them for child abuse.

An American's right to extend their fist ends at my face. Likewise, an American's right to make their own decisions ends when those same decisions put mine and millions of other families at risk of dying over something completely preventable.

>2019
>Sending your kids to the hellhole that is modern American public schools
>Protesting to send your kids to the hellhole
They deserve to lose all parent privileges

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. Fuck those anti-science, pro-plague nutjobs. Why should they be allowed to spread preventable diseases?

WOAH SCIENCE

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Why are white people so afraid of vaccines? The reason your kids are autistic is because you wait until you are in your thirties to reproduce. Try having kids in your twenties like us hispanics instead. Also vaccinate.

WOW YOU HAVE CONVINCED ME FUCK BODILY AUTONOMY.

meanwhile illegal aliens are totally permitted, in fact they get scholarships and grants

>wh*toid gets cornered
>immediately throws red herring out
Typical. No wonder china is eroding your hegemony.

School Choice.
Vouchers now.

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If you're antivaxxer you should unironically be castrated sent to jail and have your kids be sent to foster care.

>vouchers
The government shouldn't subsidize private schools. That's literal socialism. Fuck off.

This. Being an antivaxxer is on par with those nutjobs that think prayer will heal their child's cancer, or trying to force babies to be vegan and then wondering why they died of starvation.

it's not a red herring, they are basically punishing classes of people they don't like and promoting classes of people they do like. It's because of voting patterns. If your demographic votes Democrat, expect them to give you privileges up the ass.

It's not a society based on justice or fairness, it's an insane society based on ideological purity.

Did you know illegals get a free house and computer upon entering the country and claiming they are illegal?

I've seen the threads trying to reason with it on Jow Forums. Apparently it's because a jew invented vaccines so they can never trust it. They call it a "secret medical genocide" because they believe Jewish doctors poison white children with vaccines to lessen their chances of fertility. I'm not joking, they actually believe that and there was even a FB page dedicated to it that was full of nothing but boomers supporting the theory.

>Punishing retards that don't vaccinate their children
Sounds about right.
It's not about liking someone, its about fucking common sense.

don't give americans any ideas, next they will claim it's mexico fault for spreading those diseases or some shit

There would need to be all these vaccines if you didn't have illegal immigrants crossing over from fucking Senegal.

>They call it a "secret medical genocide" because they believe Jewish doctors poison white children with vaccines to lessen their chances of fertility.
Ayy fucking lmao.

They've already said that, actually.

based
It's always justified insofar as such funds are substituting public school funding.

learn english nigger

Senegal has higher rates of vaccination for some diseases compared to the USA, desu.
apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/globalsummary/countries?countrycriteria[country][]=SEN
apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/globalsummary/countries?countrycriteria[country][]=USA

I hope they really believe it, that'd be poetic

Stop trying to genocide Americans, senpai. They don't need your help.

Yeah, a real paradise over there.

The issue is the tremendous quantity of vaccines. It isn't just one or two, it's dozens and dozens of them. It goes up every single year. We don't know what effect it's having, anyone who says we do is lying. People have the right to live how they want, raise their children how they want. If they don't want to vaccinate, that's up to them.

What's funny is states like New York who want to ban kids from school for vaccinating are also trying to ban kids from being homeschooled

Actually their anti-vaccine bullshit is affecting us.

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>It's always justified insofar as such funds are substituting public school funding.
No it isn't. Listen to yourself. You are literally promoting the idea that the federal government should subsidize private business. It's authoritarian and anti-capitalist. Again, fuck off.

It's Russia fucking the U.S., making it waste energy on unnecessary internal stifles and retarded shit.

See also: Black Panthers, "CIA created AIDS"

news articles like this are pure propaganda

>Yes, we are richer than you.

>Yeah, a real paradise over there.
Compared to America, yeah.

What effect is it having then?

In what way?

I would go further and arrest the parents

This happens since some years ago, American kids infect babies and immunocompromised people in Mexico.

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You don't know, and neither do I, and neither does anyone. That's why parents have the right to opt out.

They are even trying to give these vaccines to children >1 year old, before they even have an immune system.
They've gone way too far with it, and nobody is allowed to push back.

There is also historical evidence for populations being harmed by vaccines.
youtube.com/watch?v=TB5-Y08qbjo

Do the French really?

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absolute
fucking
hell
these antivaxxers are the reason shit goes wrong in healthcare. these people walk into oncology floor of hospitals thinking "it's all good pham" and kill patients as a result of their negligence. Herd immunity is a conspiracy to them and this is coming from a catholic who believes the LV shooter was an agenda. I absolutely cannot stand people who choose not to get vaccinations, and they're the reason why people who can't get vaccinated die. These people need to be sent to their own island with whooping cough that affects adults so they know what it's like to break their fucking ribs and burst blood vessels in their eyes from it. Absolute cretins. Their children are victims and indoctrinated into lies. It is maddening to me beyond describable levels as a medfag and they're the ones that are absolute cancers on society.

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So you're whining about effects that you don't know or understand as compared to the effects that we do know and understand (and hence the reason why we have vaccines in the first place). To say that babies don't have immune systems is wrong, or else they'd all die out.

And these parents can opt out, their kids just can't go to school, which is completely reasonable.

>oh they'll pass alright
BASED

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The scientific community knows better than some dumb shit parents. As long as their kids have to interact with the rest of society, immunisation ought be mandatory.

babies below 1 year old do not have an immune system. They inherit their immunities from the mother

Oh and I forgot to mention that there's also tons of historical evidence that populations were harmed without vaccines too.

The government has no right to say what you put in your body

yeah bro, the commissar knows far better how to distribute resources as well. Just let them make these decisions, forget individual rights

They literally do.

Having an immature immune system is not the same thing as having no immune system. Inheriting it makes no difference.

You have the right to get the fuck away from society. You don't have the right to be a disease vector and spread death.

>They literally do.

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>conflating mandatory vaccinations with full blown totalitarianism
And you wonder why people think you're a retard.
>what are scheduled substances

such may be but you're no better than someone shooting up a school (and statistically more deadly) when you go around unvaccinated because "muh guvment can't say so". you absolute have no idea how terrible there preventable diseases are and the growing number of innocent children and immunocompromised patients suffer as a result. don't support these people and by God, vaccinate your spawn

Science isn't some strict hierarchy where the higher ups form a "board of truth". Demonstrate a better immunization system than vaccines and you'll probably get a Nobel and a few million dollars in grants, even get blowjobs from every doctor in the world

This. Thank god I live in a free society where meth and heroin are legal and readily available.

When it's a matter of public health and safety, they do

pumping a vaccine in a baby which was just born (which they are literally doing) has 0 effect.
Vaccines work by stimulating the immune system to create antibodies, there is no immune system to stimulate in a baby that age

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They do however have a right to say what you cannot put into someone else, which is the result of refusing to vaccinate. If you can't shoot someone, why should you be allowed to infect someone with a potentially deadly and contagious disease?
How does Polio not violate the NAP?

BASED New York

>NO METH AND HEROIN SHOULDNT BE LEGAL IM A LITERAL RETARD AND CANT BE TRUSTED WITH ANYTHING DANGEROUS BAN GUNS

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Oh wow is that what I did? I thought I just showed how centralized decisionmaking from super smart scientific "experts" often completely fails, especially when you are trampling on individual rights and forcing everyone to comply with a gun to their head.

>you can't tell me what I can or can't do with my body
>wtf why are you banning me from using public services, this is literally segregation

Herd immunity you dumb shit

>thinking guns and highly addictive drugs are on the same level
fuck off. nobody steals from their family like addicts do to buy ammo or an AR.

If there were any other situation where people were purposefully endangering the health of their children and everyone around them people would get pissed off, but anti-vaxxers threw their propaganda around to make it seem like they're being oppressed by the big bad government. Nobody is stopping them from going and living in the forest though. They'd be free to do without their vaccines then.

Has Mexico always been this based?

>I thought I just showed how centralized decisionmaking from super smart scientific "experts" often completely fails
The fact that we haven't had an outbreak of disease that has wiped out a significant proportion of the human population since we have began vaccinating, you haven't. Your boogeyman has saved hundreds of million of lives.

>be white american
>fail to have sex until you are 35 and your gf/future wife is 30
>eventually marry and have kids a year later
>get kid vaccinated
>kid starts showing signs of autism because his genetic makeup is degenerate due to the age of sperm and eggs
>"VACCINES DID THIS!!"
>Spend the rest of their lives campaigning against vaccines while their autistic freak son goes all in on Jow Forums and eventually commits a mass shooting
Meanwhile us hispanics have 5 kids each and all are healthy and will eventually have sex before they hit 30. We really are the future of this country.

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*sneezes*

nor did they when cocaine and heroin were legal and available at the drug store for 20 cents a bottle

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You didn't contradict anything I said and instead supported it regarding babies having immature immune systems with that picture. And babies are not vaccinated the moment they are born, save with one:

cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

No idea why you claim they have no immune system and then post evidence against it. Again, an immature system is not the same thing as having none, they start developing their immune systems in utero.

Ah yes remember the lovely 14th century, not a single nigger in Europe and no plagues at all. Remember 90% white America when polio didn't exist until those damn Africans brought it over?

>whites are genetically predispositioned to be dumber than hispanics
i have nothing wrong with you guys but don't act like you're inherently superior because some select dumbasses do this shit.

Holy shit do you actually think there's a fucking group of scientific experts that sit around and decide policies for the nation? LMAO that's adorable. Scientists make discoveries, they report on those discoveries in scientific journals, and then politicians and/or the electorate choose to implement policies based on the information provided to them. There is no fucking centralized "science experts" committee you absolute mongoloid. Holy fucking christ I feel like I'm arguing with a child. Get a basic education before deciding to chime in on topics that are clearly more advanced than your current level of comprehension. And as numerous other people have already pointed out in this thread, nobody is forcing you to take the vaccines. You can opt out, but it also means you will not be allowed to put your unvaccinated children in school where they put other peoples' children at risk.

you're right. they just died instead.

Based
If cocaine wasn’t more expensive than gold dust you think cokeheads would be out stripping and sucking cocks?

Corrupt political and business interests are involved here, not to mention the media.

The scientific community for decades upheld the health benefits for smoking.
They are basically just churning out papers to make grant money. They will often fill their papers with hotbutton keywords like "climate change" in order to generate more funding.

No. They'd be dying instead.

people only die from heroin because the quality is inconsistent
nobody even dies from coke unless theyre like 400lbs or 80 years old and have a heart attack

I wonder how high the percentage of anti-vaccine nutters has potato children born into the world via 40+ year old wombs. A lot of the shit they sperg out about seems to have a deeply personal root, as though they are trying to deflect the guilt of shitting out a kid a dew decades beyond a low risk pregnancy age.

As is their god given right
Faggots like you should fuck off to china to live like the bugmen you are

You do know all those "doctors" in those smoking commercials of the time weren't even qualified professionals in the first place right? They were literally shills dressing up as doctors to sell you their products because there were no standards and regulations in regards to advertising back then. You could make any bold claim you wanted.

>Corrupt political and business interests are involved here
>They will often fill their papers with hotbutton keywords like "climate change" in order to generate more funding.
Must be for all that pro-green energy, Koch money, right?
fucking lmao

people die from heroin because they shoot up so much that they stop breathing.
people die from coke because it induces heart problems real easily and often people freebase it, which does it even more frequently.

Regardless, you're still wrong for thinking vaccines should be a choice. Using cocaine and heroin as you described may not harm someone else, but choosing to be unvaccinated will for people who can't be vaccinated and be otherwise.