IT boss slams lazy Aussies who 'expect to get paid for working'

>According to Ms Tsymay, they were tasked with building websites and doing other unsupervised work.

>“What we’re doing should be paid. We’re not really assisting an employee, we’re doing an entire project, pretty much starting a new business. It’s a lot of website design work, we have to design the whole website ourselves, do all of the market research, it’s just so much work.”

>She said Mr Habib promised a job at the end of the three months for “only the best candidates who I’ve seen the best performance from”.

>Ms Tsymay said she “honestly didn’t know that you have to be paid for certain work” until she described what she was doing during a job interview.

>Mr Habib denied exploiting anyone or benefiting from their work. “We wanted to create real-live examples, commercial ideas, so if I don’t hire you your potential employers can see your idea launched.”

>Mr Habib, who came to Australia from Pakistan in 2014, said he started the internship program to give something back to the community and help tackle youth unemployment.

>“It’s for their own good. If they think I’m exploiting them I should draw a line, let them know it’s not a good way to pay someone back who is giving you a favour,” Mr Habib said.

>“I’ll put a hold on this program. I don’t have any incentive to give Australians the job if they don’t appreciate it. These Aussies would rather work in a warehouse, a bar, a restaurant, or a Bunnings than do hard work, learn some skills and do some unpaid internships to advance their career.”

>He said now he would simply send the jobs offshore. “I was getting it done five times cheaper in India, Pakistan, the Philippines, I’ll do the same now,” he said.

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Coding and web design are over as careers. Pajeet will do the work for 1/100 of what you cost.

that motherfucker

Thanks for this. I always get into arguments with boomers who says "well those Indians and Chinese they just work harder than you"

Dumb fucking boomers didn't realize that importing these 2nd rate human beings gives you a 2nd rate culture.

Unless it's difficult yes. Otherwise you're right. The only jobs left are trades and ones where you're working hands on like healthcare. The only office jobs left are for the children of rich kids to work at hedge funds, Stacys' who work as receptionists and HR the rest of us have to slave/free internships to stay competitive

If you want to save yourself a lot of time and struggle in life just completely disassociate from pajeets and SE Asians. Yeah there are some good amongst them but overall they're are very lousy people.

Economic maxim no 2853; If a monkey can be paid to do the job, a monkey will be paid to do the job, and a human will not be able to make a living out of it.
People need to aim at solving the problems at the maximum level of complexity and demand that they can possibly muster, then they'll fit into their natural position by default. If that means you're getting paid 2 bucks an hour in mumbai to cut photoshop templates into basic html, that's what it means. Life isn't fair and you're not owed a fucking thing.
Those of us who can do the more complicated stuff that relies on information that is harder to access, organise, sort and act upon will do as we always do; flourish at your expense.

>Dumb fucking boomers didn't realize that importing these 2nd rate human beings gives you a 2nd rate culture.
they say you shouldnt assign malice where you could assign incompetence. it also applies the other way around.

at the elite at the top know but the boomers in the middle of it all probably didnt know or didnt care to know

Stay mad
Pajeets and chinks that grew up in a mud pile have taken you over and you're saying that they're NOT working harder? Kek, strong cope faggot
If you hate the way they smell that's one thing, but I kinda feel like you're projecting here
Gtfo with the malice and incompetence bullshit, Pajeets are just better than you despite your head start. What a fucking failure, kek

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> Pajeets and chinks that grew up in a mud pile have taken you over and you're saying that they're NOT working harder?
they dont work harder retard they do the bare minimum but for very little money

The person bitching about being undercompensated is a woman and the person saying they were compensated (given a laptop and work experience and other shit) is a pajeet. Literally can’t trust either of them.

People who chased pigs up until a few years ago are in a position to hire.
People who received 1st world education bitch about working conditions ...
You should have made better use of your privileged status, faggot, not compare yourself with Pajeets

fuck off, paki

You're not addressing my points. You're going on a spiel instead.

Your points are essentially "I was born here and had it easier but I'm so dumb that some streetshitters have surpassed me in wealth in status, someone should do something for me".
You're pathetic and I sincerely doubt you're white

reminder that labor unions destroyed this mentality and a similar strategy would destroy it again. literally disallow people from buying labor of any kind at below market wages

>Mr Habib
lebbo ripping off curries
who cares

The fact that they couldn't get a real job shows that they are no-skill brainlets.
They signed up for an three-month unpaid internship voluntarily. What's there to bitch about?
That said the pajeet is probably a terrible boss but if you don't like it leave.

You niggers better pay a few % more to get shit done by Slav.
Really the problem is the way you model your society in a boomer-like greed.
You rather support pajeets to save $10 then wonder what went wrong and why your kids will love in brown shithole and working for $5/hr after college.
We brought you eth and link.
Pajeets are subhuman scammers with bazingacoin and 0xbtc.

> disallow people from buying labor of any kind at below market wages
Implying they wouldn't just buy the labor in another streetshitting country anyway.
Face it faggots, the west is undeservedly richer, and things are normalizing. Most westerners (who obviously have higher IQ than streetshitters) can easily handle global free markets, only pathetic bitches fail to take advantage.
If labor is too cheap, think of a business idea that takes advantage of the lowered prices, don't just bitch like a loser. because you're too lazy to adapt.
I struggle to comprehend how you fucking retards live with yourselves while literal thirdworlders are proving themselves better than you and all you can think about is asking big daddy for help

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Pajeets in the west are from wealthy, smart families. The pajeets people try to offshore to are usually 80 IQ spaghetti coders who fuck up everything. Simple crud apps are worthwhile to give them if you find a good off shoring company, but anything complex or actually valuable - you want to keep onshore.

>literally supporting communism
You need to go back.

that's not literally communism moron

you're obviously retarded but I can't tell if you're a i) jew, ii) mutt or iii) pajeet.

> Face it faggots, the west is undeservedly richer, and things are normalizing
> undeservedly
I would ask how so. But you're a dumbfuck so I am not going to get a smart response from you. The West through investments in capital, protectionism, tarriffs and low population density relative to Africa and Asia was able to develop economically. Also thanks to Protestantism and high Europeans IQs and trust.

> If labor is too cheap, think of a business idea that takes advantage of the lowered prices, don't just bitch like a loser. because you're too lazy to adapt.
Just like a boomer. How about take advantage of the situation but work to rectify it.

> I struggle to comprehend how you fucking retards live with yourselves while literal thirdworlders are proving themselves better than you and all you can think about is asking big daddy for help
Just like your other moronic friend you fail to realize that they're not better they just work for less.

You do realize there are more Indians with an IQ over 130 than there are people in most Western countries. Indians could do all our jobs. It's not my fault you're a mutt/jew/pajeet and too dumb to grasp this concept.

This is a highly underrated post.

You will only get paid well for doing the difficult work that's highly specialised and in demand. Monkey work gets outsourced for a reason, it's cheap to do (accounting black magic is used) so and it does work for shit jobs.

I consult in a technical IT field, it requires lots of communication, relationship building and face to face meetings. Pajeets cannot do this job on a technical or personal level, they have tried and failed miserably.

IT hopefuls need to focus on IT security, blockchain, machine learning/AI and data science in the future. Get across a range of technologies, fields and products and you will easily get over 100k/year.

>come to a white man's country
>benefit from stable society, superior infrastructure, better business protections and regulations, more educated workforce to draw labour from
>hires a bunch of cucks without pay to develop business projects in order to enrich yourself and say you are "giving back to the community"

Nothing is worse than a fucking "business owner" that slaps together a LTD co. and thinks the world owes them a favour.

we're also developed because we kept the business within our economies even if meant paying more

its underrated because you're stupid

all the stuff you listed could be done by someone overseas. why couldn't it?

why couldn't some smart person in china, ukraine, india or whereever do machine learning, blockchain (which is a meme)?

I am not saying it support help desk should pay 100k. But jobs should afford someone a basic standard of living. We need to look out for each other. I don't mean you looking out for me. But for your own countrymen, and me for my own.

This paki needs his companies audited ASAP.

t. Worked for UK gov for 5 years doing tax audits and pajeets would always be the biggest offenders.

Treat him like he is home
Burn his family and stone him publicly to dead Bruce

lmao as another point these brownskins have shitty economies because they have all or nothing entrepreneurial culture. they either have to make a fuck ton of money cutting corners everywhere (on wages, safety, tools) or not bother at all

Yep look at the typical pajeet business:

>curry restaurant
>workers all undocumented illegals on overstayed student visas without right to work
>dont have to pay them minimum wage and they wont say shit because they might get deported
>cash heavy businesses with zero cash controls, money goes missing every day
>company keeps going insolvent with shitloads of creditors and tax debt and popping up the following day carrying on the same business but registered in Mr Pajeets wife's name or one of his 12 kids
>cash siphoned off the business goes straight into buying slumlord rentals to house his army of illegal workers where he takes massive chunks of their already underpaid wages to enrich himself

Pajeets are the worst.

the guy's just trying to make it, dont be hypocrites. Since when did biz become like this

>dont be hypocrites
>half the board are literal NEETs who refuse to participate in exploitative capitalism

The guy did nothing wrong, those workers took the job willingly and then complains? What the fuck?

Blame yourself for not being able to compete against overseas pajeet despite being born in first world western country

is this the same guy as before but he's posting with his 3rd id

This company looks most likely to be literally broke. What we have here is ex cab driving pajeets being called out for trying to swing the big dick. No way to make any money from it so just relax, goy.

No, the entire board has always been about making money. You either make it or you dont nobody will look out for you

some of it, yes.
other programming requires white men on location working as a team.

Ok well if we are talking about making money, this pajeet just lost a whole lot with a metric fucktonne of bad press from this article.

More exploitative fucks should get called out like this.

go make it in your own country faggot.
>oh wait nvm

The thing is he wasnt being explotative, it was a voluntary contract that clearly states it being an internship. The workers were free to leave it anytime but they took it anyway.

Pol infestation, biz is not stock market culture anymore. Just stormies

If people accept working for free it's their problem. No one is forcing them to work. They can always walk away.

then fuck off back to the /oven/
14/88 Sieg Heil
Ein Reich Ein Volk Ein Führer

keep biz to biz, pol to pol. Biz is about helping fellow biznessmen to make it, no matter who or where you are.

based and Jow Forumspilled

Definitely fuck off back to plebbit and farm upboats

i look out for my bizlets. the faggoty neets amongst us need to stick together

there are many smart cunts in pol but you're just another braindead parrot

fuck off Jow Forums is a Jow Forums colony

yeah and none of us wants to associate with you faggot

WIR MUSSEN DIE JUDEN AUSROTTEN

>biz is about helping

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Why are you guys working. Just plant your seeds in SNOW.

21 to make it

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helping separate user from money

biz is and have always been about helping, it's just that the gold are dressed in shit to deter retards. People who dont find Jow Forums interesting tend to be npcs

Blockchain is far from a meme, guy. There's a reason why IBM are throwing millions of dollars at running PoC's with financial companies and investing so heavily into hyperledger.

Going off your comment, you sound like one of the monkeys that will be replaced by Pajeets. But let me break some of these down for you as you're too simple to research on your own.

IT Security is a specialised field that requires access to protected systems, Pajeets cannot legally access many of these systems due to government regulations and company policies. It requires a lot of internal company consultation which is simply something pajeets cannot do, the job is not reading from a script. Some area's can be outsourced (i.e. application monitoring in certain systems) but not the policy makers and designers.

Big data and data analytics requires a large degree of creative thought and a deep understanding of the customer/company and often tying these in with social contexts. You're making sense and finding patterns in swamps of data which are relevant for your businesses strategic thinkers and executives. Why do you think Pajeets cannot do this effectively?

Machine learning and AI requires understanding of existing systems and processes as well as being able to map this to specific outcomes (in a similar way to big data). Machine learning and big data frequently go alongside each other as it's heavily driven by statistics. Go find me some reputable tensor flow developers from India or the Phillipines and let me know how much they charge.

> alongside each other as it's heavily driven by statistics. Go find me some reputable tensor flow developers from India or the Phillipines and let me know how much they charge.
my point exactly

you're retarded

Oh I'm sure the anons who bought Espers or Kids coin would agree with you.

30 year old software engineer here.
at 25 working as a mid/senior developer on 95-100k depending on bonuses, no ethnic workers.

Fast forward 5 years, now working in a lead position with mostly ethnic team, $80k a year.

Shits gone backwards for sure, I could maybe earn $5-10k more else where but the demand wouldn't make it worth my while, been there done that.

Let's ignore the entire context of my post for a second and dismiss all comments right?

Alll your comments are showing a high level of saltiness. If someone can't perform better than a generic Pajeet and work their way into a high paying job then they deserve to be poor.

Literally quit comp sci job hunting 3 years ago and now I teach maths in an Australian Highschool.

40 week work year
9-3pm work hours
70-90k salary
Basically ultimate job security too

Not sure I'd want an autist from here near my kids desu

Would you prefer Mr Habib?

really where did you got to school for cs?

I have 70k dev job you low iq fuck

LOL 70k. If you're in Australia then you're earning below the average wage. No wonder why you're so salty.

Usyd.
My grades werent grade, probably had a credit average. I didn't take it seriously enough and skipped too many lectures. But looking back I had symptoms of depression so I don't blame myself too much and teaching isn't bad

lol average wage is like 40k cuck

my grades were shit too and i didnt go to a g8

didnt you apply for any jobs? even it support

I take that back I was wrong about average salaries.

Nah, my autism wouldn't let me work on anything micro$oft related and I only wanted to work on open source code

You must either have brown skin or a brown brain.
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really? so you had job offers or you actually worked on stuff but didnt like it

most of the theoretical shit I learnt I've forgotten

can you explain the process of becoming a teacher in sydney

median salary is still ~$65k

Maybe you should take some of my advice from earlier and work on your interpersonal and technical skills. You should also take that huge chunk of salt off your shoulder.
You might actually earn more than the average person if you learn to improve yourself and stand out from the brown crowd.

mate you're low iq

I am just looking out for my fellow countrymen

I worked a bit as a coder doing android development and I built a complex web scraping program for a company. Tbh I found coding dull and couldn't see myself doing it for 40 years. I also resented the lack of job security and needing to go from contract to contract. I was not smart enough to work for Google or atlasian nor did I want to work 10+ hours a day like some do. So I gave up on computer programming. Also as others have said, you competing against third worlder brown faggots who will work for basically nothing.

Becoming a teacher in NSW is hard, it requires 5 years of university. If you already have a relevant bachelor's degree you will need to do a masters of teaching which is a 2 year course. But once you get a teaching job it's a job for life. And it pays very well here in Australia

Look out for them by sharing knowledge and not insulting those trying to give good advice.

I give preference to people born here in any interview I conduct, but when the other applicants have better skills and better personality traits it's hard to hire local.

the masters isnt a problem they're piss easy to do

but the pay seems lackluster compared to what I could be netting in the free market. can you teach math, like hsc level math?

Yeah plenty of teachers do tutoring on the side. It does pay well but I don't want to overwork myself.

I meant to say can you teach hsc math with a comp sci degree or do you need to be a math major

Yes you do. Which is overkill imo and why there's a shortage of maths teachers. usyd compsci had enough math units to qualify as a maths major and I did a few math subjects as electives.

lol so what do you/can you teach?

Maths man
I can also reach SDD but I don't want to

I teach at an international school, teaching is cool. sup bro. best work life balance I've ever had

I think any true leadership role rules out pajeets and chinks. There education system just focuses on high scores on exams and neglects so many other parts of development that white guy that struggled to compete with them in uni/college will shit all over them later in his career as he has free thinking skills and not just set knowledge to beat the exam system

Different species of humans with different socioeconomic & standards of what is expected as the norm give different results as normally expected!!?!

Just a capitalism on steroids
Coming from the 3rd World he knows the drill.
He wanted Aussies to work for free, because his home pajeets started to become exoensive.
Now since aussies won't work for free, pajeets are good again.

70k is shit I’m on 140k in an entry level warehouse and have been for the last 20 years (minus inflation) so job security is good, only negative is 9 hour days but that is offset by only working 4 days a week

Great. You make more money than me.

I wasn't saying that teaching is the best job, just that it isn't bad.

We're being fucked here mate, make no mistake.
>we are young
>but we are many

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Yeah I guess it is still above median. Was just being a jerk and pointing out that many a job that gets looked down upon actually earn acceptable coin often more than respected jobs. Guys holding stops signs at construction sites earning 150k+ seems to offend many people

140k in the entry warehouse job.
The average is around 50k..care to elaborate senpai.
Are trades really the answer, since there are no women legally obliged to be paid the same salary for no work at the cost of productive workers?

38 an hour, 15 an hour in bonus. Get paid for public holidays even if they ain’t on your rostered day, overtime is part of that I must admit and I do work saturdays as part of my roster. 36 hour week but I prob average 44

are you taking the piss lol

what fucking places pays you 140k in a warehouse

are you being paid australian dollars and do you have a phd in warehouse management from harvard?

How am I taking the piss? Guys on arvo shift are earning even more than me. Jobs that people don’t like doing pay decent in order to keep employees supply and demand simple. And yes in AUD

Congrats on this seriously. You made it.

No shit, I did some jewgle search and traffic controllers under union contract indeed get paid 130- 180k.
Allegedly the job requires 2 day training.

wtf yeah it confirms my suspicion that all office jobs are highly coveted and so pay has plummeted whereas if you dont mind standing on your feet for awhile it aint too bad

True.

It's more about Chad vs Beta incels though. Will you consider a white INFP for traditional leadership roles ?

Traditional (charisma-based) leadership roles are fucked any way. That's a different discussion.

where? post a link

I looked it up on indeed and got $70-75k for brisbane

>tek da poo poo

Don't forget to unZOG the kids, man.
Your job is a mission. Godspeed.