Ok, so I just graduated college and have 10k in savings. With the recession looming, what are the best options for investments?
Here are my thoughts: -When credit-based purchases (car companies, and real estate) P/B drops below half of the previous year high = near bottom of the crash. - At bottom buy luxury (TIF, KORS), motor (GM, TM, NSANY), and real estate (LGIH, TOLL), and tech. - I could potentially short the same list as of right now, but I dont know enough.
farmland REITs >uncorrelated to stock market >farmland values go up each year even if commodities are in a bear market
Joshua Baker
based. michael burry from the movie Big Short loves farmland and water.
Ayden Ross
10k isn't enough to make anything lol. 50% gain on 10k is only 5k. i'd put that 10k in money market, short term bonds, and puts on s&p.
Charles Kelly
By the stock MRK they have a vaccine for ebola that they have mass produced and sold stock piles to america, spain, and the congo. The stock recently had a pull back due to the over all market loss over the last few days and is sitting around 76 a share with a forward PE ration of 13 of course this not taking into account the huge bonuses that could occur from the recent ourbreakn in the congo which has now spread to neighboring couuntry's and has made it into some all the larger cities in the region all while a civil wars is going whos muslim militants are shooting aid workers left and right under the assertion that they are there to "poisin" the populace as they local vacinators were administrating them to children without cleaning nedles and thusly spread the disease either way its going to get a shit load worse and MRK is poised to benifit get it in soon i bought like 2 weeks ago and have already made 10 percent
Michael Green
10k is very little to invest in the stock market. Even if you get 10% (which is A LOT), you will have made 1 grand. So what? You can't expect to get the same return every year as compound. I would rather invest in education. A mix of books, courses, and a small budget to test a real life business idea might provide MUCH more value in the long run.
Adam Thompson
This is sound advise OP but only if you dont know what your doing and or are risk aversed i made 35 Percent in 3 weeks on US steel after the first pull back due to the steel tarrifs
Nicholas Miller
the world is fighting over resources mayne, he's only following what top international security scholar's are saying. After crypto i'm going to spend my time investing in farmland and companies that have anything to do with the process of extracting and purifying water. it's a long game though. we have more than a decade to accumulate lol
Cooper Perry
just short the market.....?
Daniel Martin
got any short links or articles on this? i'm interested but not sure if to take action. it's a bit too apocalyptic, not sure if realistic.
Brayden Ramirez
People bearish on the market are stupid as fuck Just put it in one of the many Dividend paying stocks that have been pushed to discount from rising interest rates.
Bentley Baker
also wouldn't you prefer physical farmland over REIT?
Landon Rodriguez
>stock picking >bottom timing When the bottom actually comes in with support (if a recession happens at all in your timeline) you start buying. Buy SPY or SPXL if you like risk. Don’t waste time on individual picks. If you must larp as some kind of quasimoto, focus on sector rotation. >$1,000 isn’t a lot of money Getting any return >0 is sufficient for compound gains. You don’t get them by staying out of the market and reading get rich books. Though it is half refreshing to see Jow Forums regressing to the “business ideas” meme Liquidity is a bitch
Evan Campbell
Yeah, 5 years max holding time.
Gavin Baker
true. the water and farmland idea does appeal to me as a long hedge and as an uncorrelated asset. what should i look into buying?
You will get rekt The most expensive lesson an investor learns is that contrarianism rarely pays. Being early is being wrong. Go with the primary trends especially when they are macro trends. You are not Burry
Justin Rodriguez
yeah. personally i would do farmland + reits (it's a lot of work to own farmland). i was just suggesting that to OP since he's playing with 10k
here. this book was written just before the iraq war, and does a good job of amalgamating the actual policies of nations competing for resources (actual quotes from secretaries of defense, presidents, advisers, generals). Very very good resource, although Dr. Klare kind of is an environmentalist. Basically you don't need to agree with his prescription for the problem. His analysis of the whole setting changed my view of the world completely, and I completely understand the neo-cons now. I actually respect them. Hilary in this context isn't so bad either. Bernie is fucked for our national security
Camden Hall
>Liquidity is a bitch this can be a problem, but if you DYOR and buy some good land, you can always rent it out to a farmer. farmers stay for a long time too
Andrew Cruz
what are you doing to invest in farmlands?
Dominic Thomas
Saw an article about how crypto price to trends was 95% statistical correlation -> thought there might be an extension, but eh probably only in retrospect.
Josiah Brown
oh. didn't realize you were a brainlet. yes, every quant fund on earth uses AI techniques for this
Ian Edwards
bought ETH early
Xavier Sullivan
Dump it in a ETF/Fund such as S&P 500 index or a total retirement option. This will give you broad market exposure with the lest amount of risk yet also give you a decent return over time. I think the average return is 7%. Reinvest any payouts, this will only increase your return over time. Ex: S&P 500 index w/div's reinvested @ 7% return x 15 yrs. After 15 yrs turn off drip. Pocket the fat payout. This assumes you don't invest anymore other than the 10k. 7% is an assumption, it may be more or less depending. But historically 7% is on target. Yes 7% don't seem like a high amount but keep in mind your CD return is only 2%. Most banks shell out even less.
Easton Allen
no i mean like what etfs are you buying?
Gabriel Sanders
-Crypto has nothing to do with the real world... -People are looking up "recession" because of the 3/5 yield curve inversion which doesnt matter -people do not buy reits, 'agriculture' or commodities in recession, those things have a much worse pay off than holding stocks
The only thing that would protect you is treasry bonds, and money wont move their until the fed lowers rates. its impossible. So, buy stocks
Christopher Jackson
>The most expensive lesson an investor learns is that contrarianism rarely pays. Meta-contrarianism (contrarianism to the contrarians) does, though. That's why I come on Jow Forums, since you fags are all about contrarianism and doing the opposite of what "normies" do, I do the opposite of what you guys are doing and profit huge.
William Evans
>-people do not buy reits, 'agriculture' or commodities in recession, those things have a much worse pay off than holding stocks so don't buy farmland ETFs right now?
Henry Parker
like which one exactly?
If you mean one that tracks commodities I say no. For Reits POSSIBLY if money starts moving back into income investments 2019
Jeremiah Murphy
The only way you'll get rich fast in the market is if you get really really lucky with some stock that's bargain basement that skyrockets in 6 months or 5 yrs. The odds of that is slim. Amazon did not churn into the $1600 per share monster it is now over night. The ipo was $3 per share back in the day. It took 20 yrs to get to where it is now. Back then no one knew if it would sink or swim. Point is time is your friend and time is your only option. Tilray was another but it flamed out. If you were lucky and rode it till it hit $200 per then sold at the top you'd pocket some nice dough. But most stocks are not lucky like that. Most flame out.
Isaiah Ortiz
All in ChainLink (95%) and Ethereum (5%). Run a ChainLink node once mainnet is out.
Kayden Perry
It's not recession yet, it's still late cycle. During the recession accumulate real estate, info tech and industrials while they are on sale, dump them once they appreciate in the early cycle.
When the economy enters a downturn it takes 2 to 3 years for the stock market to bottom. For example after the dot com crash in 2000 the markets didn't bottom until 2003. After the 2007-2008 financial crisis the stock market didn't bottom until 2009.