When is the coding bubble going to pop? it is literally just 1's and 0's

50 IQ

1s and 0s maker cope

So software provides no value? Go ahead and throw out all your computers, iPad, etc. What a literal retard.

I don't know the specifics maybe, but I'm pretty confident a lot of coders are going to be replaced by AI pretty soon. I disagree that 1s and 0s have no value, that's fucking stupid, but the real problem is once computers can write their own code what do we do with all the coders? It's the same issue as once driverless cars are here, what do we do with all these uber, taxi and bus drivers?

Computers can't "just write their own code", the problem of transforming abstract and informal linguistic definitions into detailed computer instructions is very hard to automate. Once we reach that point humanity will be useless anyway, machines can do everything. But you're right that some smaller and simpler tasks like making a very basic website might become automated in the near future.

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I would agree that writing shitty code wont get you far, but most "coders" dont actually code the majority of the time, creating software is also about maintaining,testing,deploying,bugfixing code etc. and talking with customers/managers. Before AI could do those things, most other jobs would get JUST'ed first.

People will buy driverless cars and lease it out to services like uber, just like ATMs and vending machines now.

>Computers can't "just write their own code", the problem of transforming abstract and informal linguistic definitions into detailed computer instructions is very hard to automate.
They are getting there though. Have you read about DeepCoder? My understanding is that it takes code that humans wrote from other software and puts it together to form new things. It seems to me that a lot of programming uses a lot of the same stuff, just done in creative ways. I mean if you look at the Uber app or something, for example, the app was impressive because of how it was used to call a driver, but none of the programming or anything was all the special. It was the idea, not the code.

Complex programming might not get done by AI right away, but the simple stuff seems like it could. So there is Tindr, then someone made Grindr which was pretty much the same shit just gay, now if someone makes a Transdr or something DeepCoder (when more advanced) should be able to write that since the system is already there.

>Once we reach that point humanity will be useless anyway, machines can do everything.
It will for sure change the economy. I'm an engineering project manager and I would think AI could do a lot of the scheduling work I do a lot better than I can. Could it make the blue ocean type decisions? Not for a long time.

>But you're right that some smaller and simpler tasks like making a very basic website might become automated in the near future.
That's already here. WYSIWYG editors that made shitty but functional sites were around in the late 90s. Now you have SquareSpace and Shopify and stuff that is maybe not AI but it's the bridge before it.

Well you'd have some programmers that interface, but all the "code-monkeys" would probably not be needed. I imagine finding bugs would be something AI would be pretty good at.

The Uber driver will be replaced by a car with a black box in it that drives itself.

I'm gonna guess only like 20% of posters have detected OP's trolling.

Has anyone started obtusely answering their question with crypto use cases (drug and gambling markets, hyperinflation hedging, decentralized governments, etc.)?

tax evasion
unconscionable asset
moon ready
and then all the other things

>They are getting there though. Have you read about DeepCoder? My understanding is that it takes code that humans wrote from other software and puts it together to form new things. It seems to me that a lot of programming uses a lot of the same stuff, just done in creative ways. I mean if you look at the Uber app or something, for example, the app was impressive because of how it was used to call a driver, but none of the programming or anything was all the special. It was the idea, not the code.
Never heard of it, but that's still nowhere near converting an informal description about Uber into an actual piece of software. I'm not sure how useful such a tool would be in practice yet.
>Complex programming might not get done by AI right away, but the simple stuff seems like it could. So there is Tindr, then someone made Grindr which was pretty much the same shit just gay, now if someone makes a Transdr or something DeepCoder (when more advanced) should be able to write that since the system is already there.
You can just copy the code and change a few things yourself, no need for a machine. You can't tell an AI "here's tinder source code, now make it more gay".
>It will for sure change the economy. I'm an engineering project manager and I would think AI could do a lot of the scheduling work I do a lot better than I can. Could it make the blue ocean type decisions? Not for a long time.
What I'm saying that AI is entirely irrelevant when it comes to programming job prospects. When AI takes over moderately hard programming jobs we've already reached singularity and ALL jobs will be gone.
>That's already here. WYSIWYG editors that made shitty but functional sites were around in the late 90s. Now you have SquareSpace and Shopify and stuff that is maybe not AI but it's the bridge before it.
Not AI indeed. Maybe they'll make some more use of it in the future, but it's not a big breakthrough waiting to happen.

Sure, there are lots of tools that cut out work for programmers, like database engines or frameworks.

The problem is that computers/frameworks are not "intelligent" in a way that humans are. They just follow instructions, simple and stupid, they can not truly "understand" what needs to be done, they just blindly do things. Creating a program that actually understands what a project manager wants is simply impossible. Also you dont seem to understand what AI is. It is a program that recognizes patterns, and gets better at it over time, but it is still not "intelligent", it does not understand what it is doing, it is not a conscious entity.

I understand that, I'm not saying it would completely replace programmers. But by handling the more tedious parts of programming, you would only need human coders to focus on more sophisticated work. And I would say the number of programmers useful at that would be a sliver of the current coding population.

Or to take it away from coders. There are a lot of engineers that do routine stuff that a computer could probably do if it was self-learning (not aware, but just self learning). So maybe you'd need a staff of 5 engineers on the job, rather than 10.

can you create a gf?

Obviously when AI can do more it'll cause a small dent on programmer demand, but it's not gonna touch the jobs of those who are even remotely competent in anything, so no, not 5 in 10 people losing their jobs, probably closer to 1 in 100.

if/when coding has been mostly automated by AI, every other shit job will have been automated as well. Doctors and lawyers will be cucked before programmers because they are essentially just shitty organic databases anyway.

spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/biomedical/devices/in-fleshcutting-task-autonomous-robot-surgeon-beats-human-surgeons

AI is already better at basic surgical tasks, in a decade most routine surgeries will be done by AI

>oil and gas are just some hydrocarbons in a chain, there's no value there
troll or retard

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I think maybe its someplace inbetween. For sure low level jobs are fucked, people working fast food, drivers (there are a ton of drivers if you think about it), checkout people, warehouse staff, etc. That's for sure this decade. Some of that I wouldn't file under AI though, although there will be elements of it in those designs.

There is such a shortage of doctors right now and it will only get worse as socialized medicine takes hold in America (since why become a doctor when you have to go into terrible debt and then you can't get paid enough to pay it off?). I think we will need all the help we can get from robots in medicine. Took me three months to get my stomach checked.

when is the life bubble going to pop it’s just protons neutrons and electrons

Please don't procreate.

Create me a gf then thanks

We'll be dead long before the singularity ever happens

>nigger learns that binary is 1s and 0s

>coding for 8 years
>still can't make a gf

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If you can code with 1's and 0's, you'll never be out of work.

Maybe when an actual AI is developed. Not in your lifetime. "AI" right now is skip logic, not real AI, and there won't be AI generated code any time now.

The problem is code bloat - it takes millions of lines of code for anything now, because coders have taken advantage of faster processors and memory, but that's slowed down to a crawl, so the bloat is getting more and more apparent. The next generation of coders need to go back to the basics and start stripping shit out, and let the old dogs in the app world die their bloated deaths.

But, because of the bloat, it led to a hiring frenzy of code moneys to maintain small chunks of code at a time, and a lot of it got to sent to undercutting poos, who fuck it up even more.

Companies like Microsoft, Apple, Adobe, all that's going away, because they and their old, bloated code are dinosaurs.

>The Uber driver will be replaced by a car with a black box in it that drives itself.

Not happening. Too many people got killed testing driverless cars, that whole area is dead in the water right now. I know someone who is working on that for Tesla. Or was, he's quietly looking for a new job.

Probably not anytime soon. Standard code monkeys will lose jobs but tech companies will continue to thrive

T. Programmer working for a fuck huge tech company

>I don't understand the ramifications of the halting problem.

Not in your lifetime, you won't.

There is no true "AI", and the skip logic systems they're trying kill people.

Driverless cars is the biggest smoke and mirrors out there, maybe the high speed trains in the US are a bigger scam. Maybe.

So, I'm not surprised you low IQ morons are all in on it.

Probably in the next decade. AI will render all coding/IT/software development useless, they'll all be out of a job. People say blue-collar will be automated but its actually much easier for a machine to do something that involves brainpower than something physically moving around. Now if your the person who develops those AIS then you will be retard rich

Why would anyone willingly want to be a programmer lol

This.
Because coding like a drug causes some sort of addiction pushing you constant tinkering overdrive, without any sane balance between theory/domain and empirical methods. By its very nature CS is a generic subject and unless you merge that with some sort of domain knowledge (biology / finance / insurance etc.) you are always replaceable as automation creeps in. Domain knowledge erects a qualitative competitive advantage that grows with experience as opposed to quant knowledge. And BTW, even before AI destructs programming jobs, the reality is majority of quantitative jobs can be outsourced to specilaised vendors (look at Alteryx) including much-hyped "Data Science". Without domain knowledge you are just a "Data Drone"/Data Engineer.

Because TechCrunch and SV VC-brigade brainwashed the fuck out of some retarded souls.

Programming salaries are already stagnating. There aren't any junior dev positions that offer $100k anymore (and even if they did, in SV that's the equivalent of getting paid ~$60k/year due to rent alone.) Data Science (which is more mathematics than programming) is taking over.

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>Data Science (which is more mathematics than programming) is taking over.

True. However, always focus on a domain and build up barrier by acquiring qualitative knowledge. This simple fact is hard to get by Quants who arrogantly tend to think domain is useless and then gets automated out either by specialised vendors of full-fledge AI. Get some Right-brain magics and you are good.