The biggest shitcoin of them all

Literally no use case outside of speculation. And no, 20 people using it on the dark web 10 years ago doesnt count.

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this.

and still these fortnite kids think that it will go 20k. it wont happen ever again.

>Main trading pair.
>only coin with any actual use

It's a binary thing, either it will moon or it won't

Always good to hold some just in case

20k lol? try 350k and then 1million!

Bitcoin will deliver us from usury and bondage, PBUH.

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there will probably be one more boom past 20k imo. all the normies will get in, lose their asses, realize its a scam and pursue legal recourse against exchanges. This will effectively kill / mutate crypto into the niche market it really is where sketchy start ups create stablecoins for random shitholes across the world in exchange for huge political favors.

this

Tx near ath.
Fees near atl.
Price near 2y low.
Literally sets the direction of the market.
More than half the mcap.
The only coin that has massive brand recognition.
Every major financial player invested in it.
Not going anywhere anytime soon.

Hold bitcoin or get rekd, the choice is yours I guess.

buutcoin getting BTFO by BNB

i think so too...it will minimum go to 100.000,- USD / coin, likely even beyond that. It’s a matter of time though, i’m talking years and decades.

also :
smartest & biggest dev community
lightning
longest around
‘the original one’
tried & tested

Nothing you said here gives me any confidence BTC will even be a thing 5 years from now. Just a bunch of technobabble and usual shill talking points. Also lmao @ "every financial player being in btc"

Most of the serious investment bank hold a stake of/in bitcoin. Either via influence, or exchange. Far from being their main activity yes.
I don't mean to convince anyone (I don't care), merely stating facts.

You must be very new. You fell for the BTC is a meme meme.

BTC is literally the only coin right now with fundamentals and intrinsic value.

you need to work the topic of bitcoin for a quite some time in full detail and extend. you’ll get a sense where it will be one day, i cant break that fully down for you, its too much.
i personally do believe it will ONE DAY be THE world reservere currency. BUT i may not be around when this happens. We’re still very early in this whole market. I really think 40-50 years ahead with this. i also have no doubt that BTC will crash again and again in this timeframe but come back stronger everytime.

Nice, I can just feel the end of the bear market shaking off weak hands. I predict just one more dip maybe to 3.4k, and after that it is moon.

newfag detected. bitcoin is shit and has no intrinsic value you stupid fuck

Lmao okay dumbass get ready to miss the boat for the fourth time

There are still multiple whales under the surface, selling their assets in small pieces over the time.

As long as the whales are not working together there will be no new rise. If one whale buys, the others will sell. Every whale has to buy, or at least stop selling.

Problem is that there is no more idiot money pouring in.

Don't concern yourself with the actions of whales. We are at a point where they wouldn't buy (for the reasons you outlined) and they wouldn't sell because they risk devaluing their bags which are worth more if, as you said it, they sell it on small chunks over time.

>Problem is that there is no more idiot money pouring in.
Yes, this is the fundamental problem of trading. A problem that Wall Street solved a long time ago. That is why all we have to do is wait patiently for ETFs and other vehicles. The moment some mutual funds start picking up bitcoin and other shit, it is moon. How many times has Wall Street tricked normal people to invest 1k to 10k in the stock market, only to JUST them with a bubble? They are the experts of this shit. Let them play, and they will bring their strategies for dumb money acquisition.|

Bitcoin is literally the only coin that is really used for anything. The entire DarkNetMarkets industry was possible only because of Bitcoin. Fucking Backpage.com which all escorts and prostitutes used to post ads was only able to keep running for 2 years after Mastercard and Visa stopped banned them because it used Bitcoin.

You are a fucking moron. Monero is awesome but the entire DarkNetMarket users are so entrenched in Bitcoin that Monero is hardly used.

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Omg fuck off dude hope you’re price averaging your FUD campaign isn’t working. WE WONT SELL.

wan't the altcoiners that burned berlin down

t. 2017-era newcomer who knows nothing about crypto

OP loves central authorites governing his assets. The epitome of an NPC. just end it already.

this isnt inherently a bad thing. everyone knows this except for crypto autists

>communism just hasnt been done correctly so far

binance could unironically unlist btc as a trading pair and be fine

speculating intensifies

Yes let’s all live under a king instead of a government with a separation of powers.

Moron.

Yes. Some form of monarchy is actually the supreme form of government.

Trading it with other shitcoins is not a real use case

>hurr durr no use case
>look at my advanced shitcoin, sure it costs like $35 to 51% attack it but IT HAS A USE CASE hehe so much better than the dinosaur coin hah! Im here for the tech, look at me everyone, is my vritue signaling strong enough?

if bitcoin doesn't have a use case for you then so doesn't gold or FIAT.
Keep your vechain or whatever the fuck youre holding thinking that "blockchain, not bitcoin!" will get you anywhere.

Disgusting retdred boomer logic, "yeah, bitcoin was first but BLOCKCHAIN is where it's at hehe" (look how smart and better than everyone else I am, BLOCKCHAIN, you hear me hah!)

blockchain is a meme, it's a fucking tool that's useful for bitcoin's purpose, everyone who think they can monetize open source code/blockchain alone is a retard

based and quality postpilled

BTC is like a geriatric dried out pot roast.

Blockchain has a use case. And the cold hard black pill is that BTC isn’t the best example of how to execute such utility.

Literally no use case outside speculation. And no, people using it in the Middle and Modern Ages doesn't count anymore.

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if not the best example, but the only one trustless permissionless decentralized public ledger that is secure in existence.

Next decade we will see a million dollar bitcoin.

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crypto is dead... the new crypto is security tokens.. the only way non-accredited investors can profit from the upcoming sto bubble is by holding chx... they just announced a huge partnership today.. 10,000 chx to make it

that would be my guess too only probably sooner. once it goes past $500k there will be no stopping under $1mil. $100k is the next peak more likely than not then fall back to probably to the $20k region.

>security tokens
kek, go ahead be a retard see if i care!
>crypto is dead
moronic assumption of course.

That's a flawed argument because gold does have use cases. Jewelry, electronics and coins. It was also used as currency before the fiat scam

fiat is not a scam it's an evolutionary step in the form of money that freed the economy from constant inflation deflation waves that made lending unreliable and the economic growth stunted in potential.
but... if you give anyone a money press. he will abuse it. sooner or later he will. it's not a question just that, when?
the next evolutionary step in money is a system that self regulates the creation and destruction of currency based on supply and demand. where no many is in control of it, but rather it seeks a price equilibrium i'm thinking of a system like dai where smart contracts govern it and market actors are incentivized to maintain balance for meager profits.

Does another secure decentralized blockchain even exist in the world? All the forks and ERC tokens are ultimately under central control so they're equivalent to Disney bucks.

>Does another secure decentralized blockchain even exist in the world?
maybe, but not one that is also trustless and permissionless.
it's very easy to make trustful permissioned crypto systems secure.

no blockchain has no other use cases. After 10 years bitcoin (money/transfering value) is the only use case, everything else is completely retarded (dapps) or simply not worth the hassle because centralized solutions scale better.

Money is the only thing that needs to be decentralized. Separation of money and state. It's the biggest and best things about the whole cryptocurrency/blockchain industry

>he thinks normies won't fall for the get rich quick meme twice

If retards are still posting on biz about how its going to moon, then the bear market hasn't even started.

>BTC is literally the only coin right now with fundamentals and intrinsic value.
should be
>BTC WAS literally the only coin BACK THEN with fundamentals and intrinsic value.
This was until utter brainlets took over core and kicked the real bitcoin developers out. Those created bitcoin cash, which also failed.
Now none of these coins will make it into mainstream adoption, and unlike BTC, alts are at least capable of doing x10 moon missions when retards start buying

> (OP)
>Tx near ath.
>Fees near atl.
>Price near 2y low.
>Literally sets the direction of the market.
>More than half the mcap.
>The only coin that has massive brand recognition.
>Every major financial player invested in it.
>Not going anywhere anytime soon.
>Hold bitcoin or get rekd, the choice is yours I guess.


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Tx near ath
Fees near atl
Price near 2 y low
Literally sets the direction of market for chicken dicks
More than half the market cap of chicken dicks
The only chicken dick that has massive brand recognition
No
Not going anywhere any time soon
Buy chicken cocks or get rekt, the decision is yours


No wonder you are a wagecuck

I can tell from your posts in this thread you are smart and know what you are talking about. As a newbie do you think I should hold ETH or should I just only hold 100% BTC?

Nah, dapps are the future. What’s the point of decentralising money if we still hand over utter control over all data and power to Facebook google and amazon.


Stfu you corecuck brainlet

>still asking why bitcoin has value in 2019
bullish

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kys you absolute retard.
dapps make 0 sense because there is competition between apps and servies, there is no competition in the money market. Separating the state from the printing press is the only problem that matters. Decentralizing kikebook, pornhunb or some other retarded normie shit doesn't fucking matter.

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Goodbye Corecucks

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1/10 FUD. Try harder faggot.

The problem with regular usage is regulations.
Bitcoin doesn't work for legal business because you need to refund people and pay them back the same btc value regardless of market fluctuation. This means mandatory refund laws can be abused to put all risk to the shop - if price falls you resell the goods holding original value, if price drops you refund and take the rise in btc value. As long as this is not either adressed with new regulations or btc becomes as stable as usd it will remain unusable for regular online-shops.

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literally a coin that only still has value because the exchanges prop it up as the peg and refuse to replace it. You want to know who the real btc whales are? look no further than the exchanges and coinbase. that's who realy owns and controls btc.

You parasites shilling scamcoins are the most retarded people on this planet
Bitcoin is the only decentralized consensus with apps integrating in a scaleable way
LN surpassed 25k channels today

A bitcoin sidechain RSK has 20x more hashing power than your ScamVishnu

You are seriously misinformed (like most brainlets here)

>LN
if i wanted digital banking i wouldn't need crypto.

actually shorting was invented for exactly this reason. to remove price drop risk in a reasonable amount of time for a business that has it's costs in usd but income in btc.

unless you want digital banking (with all the safety and convenience) where you remain in full custody of your funds... then you need crypto.

I guarantee you use exchanges to hold your centralized shitcoins and think you're making a point
LN has the option to be fully decentralized and non custodial, a hybrid of non custodial but relying on a 3rd party, and fully custodial with some added benefits
You don't understand it but think you're smart
You're a fucking group think reddit tier brainlet

- has been around for 10 years and has never been hacked
- almost certainly the creator is dead so there is no figurehead steering the overall direction forward beside consensus
- widespread wallet/hardware wallet functionality
- no sign of any other coin even being close to flipping it

you know it's true. when the next bull run happens in anticipation of the halvening you will get wrecked if you don't own btc

this guy gets it

I was about to write out a comment, but I exceeded the text amount and realized I was wasting my time. There are more than enough gems in this thread right now for a critical thinker to start their research into understanding bitcoin's true capacity as sound money.

Speculation makes bitcoin a shit store of value. Digital cash should have a stable value. Lightning enables digital payments to be pretty easy and cheap. Its the retards that are trying to get rich quick that are the problem. Robert J Shiller wrote a Book Irrational Exuberance talking about how groupthink leads to ridiculous price bubbles. Look him up. Hes got a nobel prize in economics

who said OP was shilling scamcoins. Sounds like he was lumping everything together except BTC is the shittiest of the heap.

LATE ADOPTER RETARDS HAHAHAHAH

Bitcoin
>isnt scalable
>is slow as fuck
>mining is centralized
>china can 51% whenever they want
>has the worst TPS
>has extremely high fees
>is unsecure, due to mining centralization
>uses a shit ton of electricity, 33% of the population will never use it just because of environmental impact alone, because muh climate change

Also, pic related just BTFO’d you kids out of existence
>has never been hacked
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>he didnt know BTC got 51%’d

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Yeah its called XRP kid

Based

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agreed. if a crypto is ever gonna be usable or adopted itll need to be designed for stability. the crypto community is living in denial if it thinks adoption is gonna come without sacrificing the "moon missions"

Yikes

The very idea of LN reduces decentralization. The only real argument is if you use altcoins you also reduce decentralization since smaller chain means the same. The only valid option that doesn't fall victim to creating side channels and thereby reducing decentralization is increasing blocksize.

>banks own 99.9% premined and in full control
>trust us
kek

>Homos keep repeating "first mover advantage!"
>They don't realize that the first mover advantage only applies when nobody else is moving

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>I was about to write a comment
To this individual: Thought you would of got that reference, guess not

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>believing xrp fud
No retard, the banks dont own it all and there was no premine rofl

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So let me get this straight. Because bitcoin has gone up it will continue to go up. Will it then go up some more because it went up? Its lemmings like you that cause bubbles.

Conversely, its lemmings like ((you)) that miss it.

Miss what? Not not frontrunning people to steal there money?

Nice try coping BTC maximalists, us true early adopters, realized everything BTC stood for has been corrupted and destroyed

BTC will never be used as a global currency for peer to peer, XRP will though

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The consensus of the chain is the only thing that can determine decentralzation
Adding an alt with a foundation and low security isn't a benefit
Adding blocksize and limiting who can operate a node is not a benefit
You don't understand this at all

Read about S2X and learn about a consensus
Then reference other chains like ETH who has a central foundation and will rollback and give throughput decisions to the miners

People don't hold USD becuase they want to get wealthy. In reality, even gold is not immune to speculatve price bubbles. But so long as any "token" is constanly experiencing speculative price bubbles, it is not useful as money.

this naturally comes with adoption and larger market share niggas. once btc has golds market cap it will be much slower and calmer.

fuck off with that centralized trustful permissioned closed source piece of crap!

>The very idea of LN reduces decentralization.
no it doesn't it's just a sad consequence of the routing problem on a flat network.

Agreed. That would help. But look at the shit that has happened with the stock market. It's the narrative that "the price is always going to go up" which causes people to buy at any price that is the problem. People need to stop thinking like that to stop the bubbles.

>people need to stop being greedy
Yeah, good luck with that.

Lol. fair enough.

Not an argument idiot

Cant wait til jihan 51%’s your centralized mining, non scalable, slow as fuck, high fee shitcoin. You late adopters are going to get rekt so unbelievably hard. All you BTC hodlers will jump off a bridge the next day

People don't think the same way about USD though.

Yeah USD doesnt go up because its infinite supply

XRP is fixed supply, and faster than SWIFT

Yep shit is going down to 0 if anyone actually believes this shit is going for another run then their delusional as fuck. BTC had its chance to become mainstream and gain the adoption it needed but people are too happy being cucked to banks to ever trust some internet coin. Do you honestly think anyone will want to touch something which will lose 95% of its value?

As we move closer to a fully cashless society crypto/blockchain is going to get the adoption it needs but it won't be some random coin on CMC it will be government controlled currency for each country.

Would be great to re read all these comments in exactly 2 years from now. Only if there was a way to archive this thread

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