Explain to me why any american that wasnt born into wealth shouldnt enlist. You get free job training...

Easy with the supremacist speech. This is a board of peace.

German here.

Wouldnt chosing the Navy secure your life?

Thats why you plan ahead and get in shape ahead of time.

The people who join the military are just too retarded to make it on their own

30 yo euro boomer
retirement is after 25 years at 55 years of age
I would barely not qualify for sweet gibs and end up with 0 retirement
Otherwise I'd probably work for ZOG
Downside is also ban on any business activities for 25 years

not compelling at all unless you've coming from literal third world conditions as a child. if you have a heartbeat and can show up on time trades are a much more appealing proposition if university isn't a consideration. do the fuck what you want, make comfy income, oh, and statistically far less likely to wind up living under an overpass or offing yourself too. you sound like my highschool recruiter, fucking kek

lol spoken like someone that's never worked a day as a tradesman in his life. People on here here think you just magically become a plumber or electrician and the money just pours in.

t. loser that will never make it under any circumstances

i'm an electrician. i was literally making $25/hr as an apprentice living at home in my late teens. i almost signed my papers before my veteran father and grandfather put me in a corner and forced my underdeveloped brain the redpill. a decade later i have plenty of regrets but listening to the old man is not one of them lmao

my uncle did the army lived over in Germany for several years then came back stateside and retired out at like 45-50 years old then turned around and got hired back as a safety contractor. He's unironically based af

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>i'm an electrician.
Got any proof or are you larping? What union and local?

>if you have a heartbeat and can show up on time trades are a much more appealing proposition if university isn't a consideration

There is still not so much to make in trades, desu.
Take being a welder, as it is thrown around here again and again - it is a hard job which needs a bit more than showing up and being alive. Still, the median income of a welder is less than $40k in the US, so a guy doing welding for 20 years is likely to make less than a fresh undergrad of finance right after university. After a couple of years, the undergrad likely went +20% (at least), while the welder might have +10%, if he got lucky.

To be frank, if someone has the discipline to go from being obese to meeting even the army fitness standard, they also have the discipline to go to school for something more lucrative. If your only motivation for enlisting is the money, there are better ways to use your time.

Your uncle is smart cause overseas he's allowed to earn like $90k before having to pay uncle sam anything. I probably would have ended up as a civilian contractor overseas in a place like Qatar if I didnt end up with a good career option domestically.
Now how come you're not following in his footsteps?

>hey also have the discipline to go to school for something more lucrative.
Like what? And who is gonna pay for it? Try to use your brain before you reply.

yea joined during peace time my ass would have been balls deep in afganistan

The top universitas in America are very well known for being free if you come from a normal family and if you don't who gives a fuck

IBEW local DEEZNUTZ. did i pass your test? please validate me on this anonymous shrimp farming image board senpai. look i don't want to invalidate anyone who is interested in enlisting. but you asked for reasons why anyone not born into wealth shouldn't and the answers are obvious and plentiful, as evidenced by the military continually failing to meet recruitment expectations.

I thought IEDs are what fucks up most soldiers in the middle east. Based guerrilla tactics taking down subhuman imperialfags.

I knew it. Larp bitch.
See kids, he didnt enlist so now he has to play make-believe on the 4channel all day lmao what a fucking loser.

Literally anything that pays more than an E-3 makes.
Career opportunities and scholarships abound. Most communities have options for 18 year-olds. If they don't, then sure, the military might be your best bet. That's just not the case for most.

You are missing the part where competition is fierce for desirable career fields that translate into civilian sector jobs. You are also missing the part where your barracks gets VBIED'd at 2am and 6 of your friends die screaming in collapsed rubble, because the U.S. government thinks Ugandan security contractors are adequate protection for housing of active duty us military overseas.

It is one of the easiest paths to a security clearance, however. That opens a lot of doors. Especially for a "minority" since its a lifelong free pass to a big paycheck since you can't ever be fired once you are diversity hired.

>Jambo intensifies

I told you to use your brain and you still couldnt come up with one thing. Pathetic. You're never gonna have success in life.

>The military knows how to build weak losers with no self esteem into proper men with confidence

Lol, it builds brainless machines ready to die for (((them)))

I'm personally not interested in going to war and risking getting blown up or shot, but I have nothing against people who are.

>You are missing the part where competition is fierce for desirable career fields that translate into civilian sector jobs.
Is it though? What I've read and heard is that the military is hurting for bodies across the board. To hard to find kids to enlist that arent fat and can pass a drug test.

>You are also missing the part where your barracks gets VBIED'd at 2am and 6 of your friends die screaming in collapsed rubble
Ok well guess what, people die in vehicle collisions, people get shot going to concerts. Life is gonna have bad moments and you're gonna lose friends no matter what.

They train you to DO AS YOURE TOLD. They break you down and build you back up for that reason, nothing else. Textbook mercenaries. I’m sorry, but get redpilled

>bluepilled the post.
Usually I see the die for oil, etc. But this is next level retarded.

I was curious and looked up military culture a few weeks ago. Military seems like it's the LAST thing you should ever pursue if you have brain cells. I'm so glad I had the discipline to complete school and get a great career on my own.

co.grafton.nh.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Military-Culture-PDF.pdf

Buddy did this. He joined the air force. Training was shorter than other services (then; he joined in 2003). Landed a gig working on big cargo planes fuel systems in S.C once his training was over with. He liked it cause he was good at that kinda stuff anyway. Way he told it working on one was easy shit, long as you could read and follow the maintenance guide book that is. He's still in, in texas now as an instructor. Just 4 more years and he'll have 20 yrs in. Full retirement if he wants it. He went in at 19. He'll come out at 39 fully retired. Meanwhile how old do you gotta work in the private sector again, 65 I think it is?

Hon. discharged from the Army in 2002, I definitely made out well. Most do not however.

Quite true.

What's the latest you can join because if I get stuck at this call center for another year I'll do it.

>Explain to me why any american that wasnt born into wealth shouldnt enlist.

Because you're getting paid minimum wage to secure the national interests of Israel?

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Fucking kek. What are you even talking about faggot?

If you had fuck all going for your life then military will be one of the best options. Yea it's for Israel, but you'll get your life on track. Just keep in mind it's for jews.

and also they control what you wear, cook your food, schedule your day, and they out rank you. the majority of my time in was playing fuck fuck games with retards. that last 10%, although rare, are probably some of the finest people I've ever met in my life.

I'm thinking about the military. Also to all the niggers complaining about getting shot, the war is pretty much over. Regular army/marine/air force rarely deploy to zones. If you go navy though, you might be deploying to those areas more often, but you're on a ship. Other than that, only special operations are the ones constantly deploying.
Air force is the most like a 9-5 job. Do well on the ASVAB and try for a decent job, or pick one if you go army. Something like 17C, at most you'll find arrogant people because they think they're smarter than everyone.

Deep down you regret joining so you’re rationalizing

To stay civil

I got chaptered out of the army for OCD I didn't know I had and the main thing they told us to be concerned about was a bunch of terrorists showing up on a hill with LMGs and RPGs.

>Dying for Israel is based and redpilled

>Regular army/marine/air force rarely deploy to zones
This simply isn't true. National Guard and reserves did so many tours over the last 15 years they were basically active duty.

IMO the coast guard is the most patrician branch.

Spot on

How physically strenuos is it? Can a skelly do it?

Because I don’t wan’t to be/die for the ZOG

Ive got a 130 IQ tested in public school but I'm 5'7. Which branch would be best? I'm sure I could score high on their tests so perhaps the coast guard? I've already got a great life, I more or less want to just go through basic training and attain a rank. Spending 6 years engaged doesnt sound appealing

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It is not uncle Sam you retarded kid. It is Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan, Schiff, Warburg. The Fed Shareholders.

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>dying for Israel

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This sound too stupid to be true. I wonder if it isn't disguised recruitment advertisement.

They know Jow Forums attract a lot of lost young boys.

yeah mate your fine i was skin and bones and started off doing site labor you get stronger and smarter on the job. you'll have to work in some uncomfortable positions, move heavy shit around and pulling can be a bitch but it's not as strenuous as most other construction trades

Because the military is filled with brainlets who thought the same thing you did only to realize GI Bill is a joke, the pay is slightly above poverty, and if you get disabled then you're basically homeless because hero worship is words only

I finished 3 degrees with my GI Bill, a nice 100k bill that I dont have to foot for the rest of my adult life.
The Air Force was amazing. It was a good quality of life. I lived in Japan in my early 20's. Got to date some amazing Japanese girls and came home with a pocket full of cash. 10/10 would do it again.

The GI Bill doesn't pay 100k towards degrees, you fucking LARPer

Propaganda

Yes it does. Yellow ribbon program my dude. I went to a private college, got my xray degree and my health sciences degree(in case I want to become a PA.) I finished my A.A at a community college. I got my CCAF a two year degree while I was in. The GI bill goes for 4 years. They will always let you finish your degree if you're close.
I took a small amount of loans out to cover the gaps in between semesters.
The cool thing is I worked per diem for xray as I finished my last year of college. Paid my Bill's with that and the stipend.
Used the Pell grant to pay back the loans. Truly based college life
I make 80k now debt free.

>the odds of you or your peers dying does not increase as a combatant in a combat zone.

This is the IQ of Jow Forums

You're on a business board, you should understand better than anything, that you were wrong as soon as you used the word "free." Nothing's free. Especially when the next war for Israel could start aaaaany day.

I can't stand being yelled at. It pisses me off. That's why I won't join

its the ultimate admission of beta.

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