I have been making some professional quality vidya art along with my own OC characters. I haven't put any of it on my website because I'm afraid people will steal my art and sell it. I made some OC stuff on put it on /v/ for fun and in less than a week it was on fucking etsy and other websites being sold. So this time I'm waiting to sell at conventions.
My question is is it profitable? How much should I spend on prints and stickers? It looks like I'm going to need to spend at least 2k on all my merch to sell. My gf doesn't really want to partner up with me and I find that a little disheartening. I'm not asking her for money just to contribute her art into my OC project and she could keep the money on whatever she sells.
Have you looked into any of the sites that let you sell art, for example the Unity Asset Store?
John Cruz
>I have been making some professional quality vidya art along with my own OC characters. I haven't put any of it on my website because I'm afraid people will steal my art and sell it. I made some OC stuff on put it on /v/ for fun and in less than a week it was on fucking etsy and other websites being sold. You should be copyrighting you art so you can sue people who try to sell it. >My question is is it profitable? Depends entirely on how you market it. Going to a convention is a good move.
Alexander Long
think she's good in the sack?
Landon Smith
Graphic designer // drawfag here I sell mtg playmats online and it's a great source of passive income. Rakes in about 2500 / month which is not bad at all.
Convention profits will largely depend on the location and your sponsor. If you have to take a plane // book hotel on your own, it will obviously be harder to break even.
Charles Hernandez
Do you think other trading card mats would sell besides mtg?
>2500 a month fuck I gotta get in on this. I've been watching proko vids and just trying to draw as much as possible but I have a long way to go. I can't draw eyes to save my life and my anatomy is usually off because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing
>I'm afraid people will steal my art and sell it your probably not that good lol. your skills as an artist should not be valued as your static end work but rather the utility you can provide. also i wouldnt worry about people selling crap on etsy because they probably arent making a lot of money. (pro tip i know artfags are autistic about image compression but seriously never post your hi res files online for free always save as jpg or smaller png...)
also how big is your online following? personally i wouldnt try to sell anything till i reached at least a total net of around 5000 people at the bare minimum. ideally 10k, where if your lucky 10% of those people will buy whatever your selling, so example $20 print x 1000 people = $$20k
but until you reach that point its probably not worth the investment of selling unless you are willing to lose money to promote yourself with t shirts or whatever....
Hmm some good tips thanks user. I'm building my portfolio and then going to do the whole social media explosion thing. The stuff I have posted is immediately stolen and sold so I guess thats a good thing.
how does this art meme work? for example, you have sakimichan who gets all of her art stolen. but it helps her popularity spread. also a lot of her work are of unlicensed popular characters because it's easier working from an established fanbase than trying to hawk original characters that nobody cares about. if she sold officially licensed merch, she'd have to compete against a million cheap knockoffs. if she sold her own intellectual property, it'd get ripped off anyway. but if your OC is popular enough, others may want to license it. let them worry about the knockoffs. or do the patreon/crowdfunding thing? wat do?
Whats your roi on playmats. Do you have a website print and ship them for you?
Jacob Phillips
>how does this art meme work? she occupies a niche but large market that no one who competes with her has reached the same level as her. she was also was in the right place at the right time when you could still get big on certain sites like DA >but if your OC is popular enough, others may want to license it. let them worry about the knockoffs. or do the patreon/crowdfunding thing? this is kinda an unreality pipe dream. i think the "OC" mindset will hinder you from actually making good original IP's. IP is more important and broader than "OC" and people dont really care about 1 character usually theyre set in some kind of IP framework. it seems like making money as an artist doing your own thing is mostly a popularity contest, and most of the best artists are mostly behind the scenes under NDAs etc.
Anthony Russell
Yeah I've explained to my gf its mostly about marketing. Most artists are pretty good, the great marketers are the ones making money.
There's a furfag that makes 27k/month doing like 1 commission a month. Every 6 months he posts sure "teaser" screenshots for some furry VN he's apparently working on but it's obvious he's not actually coded anything and just does the odd Photoshop pic to keep the money going.
Go to /d/, or e or h even. Pick an obscure fetish with almost no new OC and start drawing.
Benjamin Robinson
Jfc that’s a beautiful woman
Gabriel Barnes
I have a card game that I'm buying artwork for, what's a throwaway email I can contact you at? Got any examples?
Isaiah Martin
Got a link to this fag’s work?
Jason Barnes
This might be the most perfect roastie I've ever seen, even the chick in looks like a dog by comparison
Isaac Allen
>Is quite obviously into furry porn.
Christopher James
obviously. She has a life time of sucking and fucking chad under her belt
Julian Carter
exemplary taste anons. Jesus fucking christ she is decent
Aiden Sanchez
Nah, the fact is that she was she was feeded and seeded at a young age.
I will be into it for money if that’s what it takes
Jason Reed
Better start drawing then fur fag.
Camden Lewis
Jow Forums doesn't deserve bxbc >free airdrop >platformtoken like BNB >garunteed to go to $1 >2000 BXBC for signup with throwaway mail >another 2000 for using ref code >ITS FUCKING FREE MONEY >Binance airdropped 1000 BNB (BNB is $12 RN) >did i mention its FREE? ZFEU7UVU the code i used.
Isaac Price
low test
Grayson Walker
Can you post some heavily watermarked low res shit just to see what you make.
Christian White
I went to a con to try to get laid once and it was the most consumerist shit I have ever seen in my life down to the $50+ish entrance fee and no I did not get laid but at least I did 3-4 approaches.
Sebastian Morgan
Used to use myself as a model for my drawings, but then realized (via poor sales) that neither good art nor the image of an attractive female body is rare enough to command any decent compensation. I have a particular set of conventions that I now quietly offer to pose as a model (during the convention or after) for aspiring artists at an hourly rate. Guess what? If I spend an hour drawing, I might make $100 if the conditions are just right. If I get someone excited to draw me naked for an hour, I'll get twice that and have bookings lined up, not to mention the very high amount of extra money I may make in tips if the vibe turns out right (never promised, but it does happen.)
Kayden Thomas
Never heard of watermarks or low-quality previews?
Leo Robinson
you got any tips for music?
Colton Stewart
What are your goals?
Luke Torres
right now is finish 59 songs by the end of may
Isaac Phillips
Here is a step by step plan to become successful as a musician >1.Put up an ad somewhere asking for musicians to work on your project for free. >2.Get hundreds of replies from really talanted people >3.Realise the retail value of your songs is approx zero >4. Get an accounting job in an office Now you are successful, and like literally everyone else on the planet you can still claim to be a musician
Leo Phillips
what instrument do you play?
Charles Garcia
Suing people is a good way to make money tho. Probably more money than most people make off of art itself.
Ian Green
>also how big is your online following? personally i wouldn't try to sell anything till i reached at least a total net of around 5000 people at the bare minimum. ideally 10k, where if your lucky 10% of those people will buy whatever your selling, so example $20 print x 1000 people = $$20k Way to pull absolutely irrelevant numbers out of your ass. That's bullshit and you know it, just like you know that you are LARPing. >not worth the investment of selling unless you are willing to lose money to promote yourself with t shirts or whatever.... Swear to god, Jow Forums is absolute shittiest board when it comes to actual business advice outside of memecoin shilling.
If you want to sell shirts you can start with as little as 50$ and turn it into passive income of 100$ to 3000$ or even higher a month without ANY Social Network shilling. You will have to stand out with your designs though, unless you ace some meme design when it's on the peak of popularity. Inspiration is everywhere with trends rapidly shifting, the more niche it is the easier it is to generate profits and be the 1st one to do so. Generally, some meme slogans will have much harder time to generate income over some interesting, NON-SHIT graphics. The problem is however, that a lot of starting designers think their creations are hot shit while in reality is garbage tier. There is quiet simple test to determine whether your design is yay or nay. If you designed something you wouldn't wear yourself publicly and proudly, it's not worth selling.
>t. started online business selling items without a single post on social network, in fact, I've created FB and Instagram page for my business only like 2 years down the road. >70k$ gross 1st year with about 40k$ of pure profit pocketed.
I don’t really want to sell shirts but prints. If you sell shirts have you tried amazon merch? I got approved recently but haven’t uploaded anything yet. Your designs must be really good, 40k profit would be awesome.
god dam when u so ugly not even x100 horny teen beaner is turned on
Jaxon Cruz
Yep.
You just make a design and they sell it. You do need to do a little research to learn what's in in Mtg. Like, what cards are good, what characters people like, etc. I have some original designs that sold really badly by comparison.
Gabriel Mitchell
Piano. Very well
Aaron Green
may I see a design you made please?
and that's how you feel about music? Do you see a therapist? Piano players can get $500 a night in my city if they're good and more if they busk
Cooper Baker
It's basically same thing honestly. Shirts, Prints in all sizes and shapes, pillows, phone cases. All of those things revolve around same concept, be good designer and make things that are desirable. The initial, mere 50$ or less of starting capital applies to all of it and that's only because it's generally good to order the Color Swatch printed on the medium of choice to calibrate your artwork to get the best possible result. The rest is just making quality work.
Also, 40k$ a year is absolutely nothing, only sky is the limit, if you work hard enough you could push it way higher. I was absolute fuckboy and thought that the business will roll on it's own until profits really dropped. Figured that it probably wouldn't hurt to invest back into it. Now I spend great amount of money back into it and I am sitting already at 47k$ gross for this year.
No. Take it at a face value. I don't have to prove anything and it absolutely does not bother me whether you listen to my genuine advice or not.
Jack Hernandez
Now that I think about it I unintentionally left out rather important detail. You might need some starting capital proportional to the price of your prints. Since in order to keep your initial costs as low as possible you will be using print on demand services but if you do not have established PayPal, your money will be held for 21 days afaik, so you will initially have to pay for it yourself, once you start generating sales on consistent basis, the funds will be available immediately. At least that's what some of the people said was the problem with "upfront" costs. Not sure if the same thing applies nowadays. There is absolutely no need to worry about losing money though, only about 1-3 out of 100 people are dicks, other than that people are genuinely chill. Also, their dickness is proportional to their poorness. It's usually the poor people who absolute entitled assholes so you don't have to worry about losing big buck because of that too.
Justin Allen
Imagine..
Dominic Bailey
>and that's how you feel about music? Do you see a therapist? Piano players can get $500 a night in my city if they're good and more if they busk
Haha thanks for your completely uninformed opinion. Playing in bars or hotels is a SHITTY gig. It's literally wagecucking except instead of working days like the rest of humanity you're working in the middle of the night on weekends and national holidays, with no benefits or job security. Good gigs are very competitive and jealously guarded, and the industry trend is only contracting. Piano bar gigs aren't even really "piano" gigs, they're singer/entertainer gigs, if you aren't an absolutely magnetic performer you can basically fuck off.
I make money in two ways, by teaching (and to make real money you have to teach university music, which is basically a ponzi scheme at this point) and by doing vanity studio gigs for delusional bands/songwriters who will never make it.
This is the truth, except most music majors don't even make it that far down the career path.
Benjamin Powell
Oh, and by the way, piano is one of the BEST musical areas to pursue professionally. You're trying to be an orchestral bassoonist? You're trying to make it as a death metal singer? Forget it.
Thomas Russell
Checked and baitpilled
Nathaniel Miller
don't forget needing connections to get anywhere!
Benjamin Harris
>don't forget needing connections to get anywhere! This is true, but I didn't want to dwell on it because people kinda get stuck on that idea and forget that even if they DO get those connections somehow, the whole industry is on life support.
Liam Rivera
She black or white ?
Cameron Barnes
She blacked to shit, user-kun
Connor Ortiz
Holy shit I just thought of a ridiculously profitable etsy idea by reading this thread
Thanks for the input. I sell on eBay and amazon, just used shit so I don't have to wait for funds. When I start selling my art that'll be nice. >color swatch printed on medium of choic to calibrate your artwork Fuck didnt even think of this, thanks user.
Poor reading comprehension is hindering you. No, I'm female; it isn't embarrassing for me to model; and getting laid isn't what I'm aiming for.
Alexander Long
Stop LARPing you homo, lmao.
Owen Nelson
You realize that figure modeling is forcing people to give you attention right? People who become figure models are so attention starved that they have to force attention on themselves by getting naked. Of course a woman would say, "it isn't embarrassing for me to model" because in fact most women are sociopaths. Also you're saying from your other post you command 200 dollars or more for a modeling session not including tips. Where I live figure models get paid 14-20 an hour and the sessions are usually 4 hours. Pretty shit pay to let a room full of people inspect your butthole, but you're getting attention so thats one of the three criteria met for women to not go completely insane.
Thanks again. She really is nice (the face is kinda average, but the rest is well maintained and proportional).
I wish I knew something relevant to aid your problem, but I don't. Far from art (thought I live with an artist), pretty far from all conventions. So, nothing useful for your case, I'm afraid.
But hey, I wish you well.
Nicholas Taylor
Loomis. There is a reason people won't shut about him.
Camden Phillips
throwing hot coffee at someone pointing a gun with the finger on the trigger might make them pull it involuntarily just from the reaction
>image except if he had more resources the pile of ladders would be big enough for him to see over the wall, demonstrating that some problems CAN be solved by just throwing more resources at it. the image is disproving what the text says.
