The guy in the middle is Neil Strauss. He wrote The Game, one of the most influential books in the pickup industry...

He he he

He helps the black man make baby with the white girl

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That too. It becomes obvious after, I don't know, the 20th program that's been produced by the same company.
The people who run PUA companies are shady as fuck and clearly in it for money/power, which ironically is what really gets women.

Two reasons:
1) online dating, flirting becomes less of a problem. Both parties obviously know that they are into each other
2) pua were super gay to start with. They use methods of confusion and getting their way with a half ass consent. It's basically acting like a woman towards women and hiding raw sexual energy as well. Some went up to hypnosis which isn't necessarily gay but super fucked up.

I've read his book and the only word that I could think of was PUSSY.

My Motto is be yourself and if it works out, it works out. Also get rid of fear of rejection because that's your biggest enemy.

It's not bullshit, just gay and women are more aware now. It's like buying bitcoin for 20k and trying to sell it to someone for 25k now...

All these efforts to pick up a nice woman... all of this to literally end up in the cuck shed while she fucks Tyrone, sad!

PUA is still very much going, but now it's just dressed up in self help crap to help sell it

because it only works on drunk girls

The inherent flaw in PUA is that it over-complicates the entire thing making a science out of nothing. It will mess you up psychologically and make you appear desperate/trying too hard/insecure which girls can easily sense and are disgusted at.

because you dont need to know all these tricks if you can pass shit tests

>outside, at the park
>"here, user, can you hold my purse for me? im gonna go to the bathroom"
>"yeah, of course. no problem"
>she goes in
>take her purse and go hang it off a low-lying tree branch, just out of her reach
>"user! you're such a jerk"
>make her agree to do your dirty laundry before you'll take it back down

Good take

>tried, failed, blames the system
What you said is literally untrue

Women are stupid thats why

nope. boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

I think PUA thrived earlier on in the internet because a lack of female awareness of the topic, so there was a lack of adequate ridicule from women, and women not knowing what it was made it seem to a lot of guys like it might be a legit way to manipulate women into sex. The PUA industry still exists and makes money holding expensive seminars and so on, it's basically a scammy world just like a lot of the fitness world is.

He is right, tho. During the interaction you think about the meme PUA stuff and don't act natural. Women can sense that.
All you need to do is eye contact, pass shit tests and not be a thirsty beta.

julian what kind of hairline you want

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>using a head prosthetic
>still shorter than a gril
When will they ever learn?

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What the hell are you talking about, hypnosis? Hahah
Most PUA's tell you yo dress nice, start talking to people to get the ball rolling and then escalating on a some slut which showed you interest. Which is how normal human interaction usualy works you fukin basment dweler

Never read into ´the game´ stuff. Seemed kindoff weird.

However there was this guy David D or something. Who said all you need to do is be cocky and funny. Like the user above with the purse situation.

Thats a good one. Have the balance right and you win, all the time.

Why is there a load of people hamstrung about telling everyone that PUA while describing it in a way that's completely untrue to what it is?

It’s just evolved... more about turning yourself into a confident Chad through self improvement. Check out RSD Max

Tits or gtfo

Also, dating has gotten even harder for average looking men because of things like Tinder and social media. Even average looking girls are showered with attention on there. I think a lot of guys just feel like dating isn’t worth the time and effort anymore. At least that’s how I feel.

If it wasn’t clear, what I meant was that tinder and social media lead to women having unrealistic standards.

this

Girls around the world are heavily influenced by american girls. Basic principles work everywhere due to female nature.

Are you 14? Just hold the purse you fucking autist

Theres shit testing and then theres needing a favor. If she's using that to shit test you then 1. She's not worth your time becuase that's equally as autistic as you assuming it's a shit test and 2. You can still pass the shit test by holding it as long as you don't overthink it (ie. Assume it's a shit-test).

Just don't be a thirsty turbo-beta and act like a genuine A-class person for the sake of being a genuine A-class person and not for the sake of women (or anyone else for that matter).

Fuck america

Why would a woman need someone to hold her purse anyway?

>The Game
fuck, i lost

Dating is not worth the time, money or effort. Most women on Tinder are trash people who treat you as disposable simply because of all the options they have. It is a degenerate culture. I am not playing that game anymore, I am focusing on making money.

I feel like that PUA shit wouldn't work and even it did so many women are aware of the concepts about peacocking and negging and all of that fucking shit and even joke about PUA faggotry constantly so I doubt walking up to a woman like an over confident jock when you're 5 foot 4 and have acne would even phase your average bar whore that this PUA shit is supposed to be used on when they're already aware of the tricks

I know that tickling my dick shouldn't be pleasurable due to masturbation being despicable, yet I find it pleasurable.

That's not a fucking shit test, she just asked you to hold her purse while she went to take a shit you fucking social retard. And I'm not knocking on having fun and teasing your date, it's fine and its usually funny for both parties but if you construe someone asking you to do a simple favor as a shit test you're legitimately insane

You find touching your dick pleasurable because you're stimulating nerve endings. Your analogy is retarded. Women on the other hand are extremely socially aware and if they know about PUA and see you trying to 'game' them they're likely going to realize you're some sweaty nerd that read a book on how to get laid, which is absolutely unattractive

It works very similarly, even on a neural level. She has a set of neural pathways that are primed for response in man-woman interactions, which are as real to our bodies as sensation of eating food or touching dick. The fact that she knows those are techniques doesn't stop them from firing - conversation isn't don't on a spiritual level.

Contemporary pua is basically teaching men what women want to see in a man. Women always knew what she wants on a subconscious level, so only PUA that would make her disinterested is incorrectly executed PUA.

cringe af

Wtf is pua? Someone give me a quick rundown on the technique. I've slways just picked up women at school by being chsrming and hard working.

I couldn't honestly tell you why, but that's not the point. If you genuinely think she's shit testing you then just say no and don't go on another date with her I guess. That's shitty childish behavior and not a game I personally have the time or patience to play.

But most normal people are not these high-function autist caricatures that Jow Forums and reddit and youtube make them out to be. Most people just want to have a good time and get their mind off the day to day drag - all I'm saying is stop looking for excuses to roll in the mud with the pigs, be a decent person, and youll be much more successful in all aspects of life.

>That's shitty childish behavior and not a game I personally have the time or patience to play.
One can assume she's subconsciously wanting to see how do you deal with childish behavior because the end goal for her is to see if you'll be a good father. Also being able to deal with conflict is what makes a man able to secure a family.

BLACKED

Not to mention all the master PUA's went insane. Mystery transitioned and became an sjw, tyler became L Rob Hubbard, Roosh is in Serbia talking about pol memes on youtube.

In 2009 betas could still get lucky once in a while and would often attribute their luck to PUA.

In 2019 the twin satans of instagram and tinder shot womens' expectations into the stratosphere. They honestly expect a 7 foot tall olympic swimmer that drives a lamborghini.

Nice digits.

Anyway, I started reading a lot about pua in uni and some of it worked great for me eventually after years of practice.

Some stuff I tried was super cringy in retrospect but I didn't do the ridiculous stuff like magic or peacocking.

"Cocky Comedy" was the thing that resonated with me the most. I'm also now much more confident and better looking (body too) even though I'm going bald pretty rapidly. The piss taking and light touching is what helped the most, plus you generally know after 30 seconds if it's a goer or not regardless.

I'd still be shit at cold approaches though but dates are easy as are other situations where I'm put together with a girl like some kind of group dinner setting or whatever.

>bald
>beard
>glasses
checks out

>Blatant cuck thread
>Not about business in any way at all

>Janny leaves it up

What did he mean by this?

Ok then I should specify: if she's obviously being a cunt on purpose just gtfo. Subconscious or light-hearted shit testing is super normal human behavior between all genders all the time.

If it seems like she genuinely needs her purse held then just hold it and do be a beta about it (ie. "oh of course I will, ill do anything for you" etc). The point I was trying to make is that trying to inject "game" into everything is going to cause you to shit test women all the time and then youll project you're own shitty manipulative behavior onto them.

When you start to blow up something as simple as "hold my purse for a sec please" into some turbo autist situation where you try and get her to clean your dirty laundry by hanging the purse too high in a tree, you've gone too far. What an embarassingly childish reaction - youre better off just not interacting with people ever if you're going to act like that.

Or maybe I'm just not an ugly faggot so I don't understand the need to try and play games with everyone to feel important.

Don't* be a beta about it

This bitch is a HB 3/10 max. An easy bang for me. Simple case of Bait, Hook, Reel, Release then Hit her with the flipped positive Neg and slowly work my way in and oscillate into being AMOG (Alpha male of group), maximise chances of #Close by using the Compliance Test and slipping into the C&F routine (Cocky & Funny). Next slap her with a Bitch Shield while I analyse her BL and try to avoid falling into any traps her BBF (beta boyfriend) might fall into himself since I want to BMOG him while he's not there. If she gives me any trouble I'll pull out the Don Juan special Grand Master style and force EC (emotional connection) before pushing for the Fuck Close.

If she has AWD then I simply know she's JAW and ditch, she probably doesn't have Survival and Reproduction Value anyway but if it's an SDL (same day lay, for the layman) then I'd SUAL and Check the Buying Temperature and Buy at the spike for a quick turn around. Bang! Easy.

you guys need to get off the internet. Spending more then 2 or three hrs a day will fuck your mind up

why not just steal it lol

If I didn't have a friend that unironically did this shit in college, I'd prob think it was satire and enjoy it. I will say it's impressive how much you fit a 15,000 dollar weekend retreat worth of lessons into one post.

Also check'd

>the PUA industry
I hate when people mix up the scammy "PUA industry" with some of the original basic ideas of the pickup community that are still useful to know about. All of the shit you need to know is available for free on blogs like Roissy in DC/Roosh from 10+ years ago, and you can read it in like an hour or two and be set for life. No need to ever pay any of these industry cucks for common sense knowledge that's been available for over a decade.

>Needing lessons on how to pull women
This is what happens when you grew up with no strong male role model.

It's second nature to anyone who isn't a s-oyboy addicted to video games. If you didn't know this instinctively at 15 years old then you will never learn it any point later, no one can teach it, those PUA camps are just like traders selling their guides, it would just be like learning one single formula but reality requires you to adapt on the fly.

The PUA guys are just selling hope to retards, they're in the business of selling dreams

I'm the guy you responded to, think my IP changed.
Yea I feel the same. I'm not an incel, I can get girls if I put in the effort, but I just really can't be bothered. For now I'm just focusing on my work, improving myself and making money. If I randomly meet a great girl, great, but it's really not my main priority.

He's Jewish what did you expect lol

>be with group of girls
>I ignore the one I'm interest in and go for her friend
>start talking about hypnosis and how easy it is
>let me show you
>close your eyes
>imagine the last time you were genuinely happy
>make it as vivid as possible
>what do you smell, what do you feel? can you feel the ground?
>now, try to locate the feeling in your body, where does it originate from
>keep your eyes closed and point to that place in your body
>now, try to associate a color to this feeling, what is it?
>green, very nice
>imagine this color dripping from that happy place in your body, gently become an increasing stream of pleasure

she should be halfway to orgasm at that point

>now imagine my hand tipping in a big bucket of paint that exact color, like a big big paintbrush
>how does that feel?

Then gently grab her. If she doesn't flinch in agony keep brushing her and then grab her by the pussy to assert dominance. If it didn't work you at least got away with grabbing her.

cringe who does this

>Mystery transitioned and became an sjw

Cringe

>tyler became L Rob Hubbard

Based

>Roosh is in Serbia talking about pol memes on youtube.

Based

Seems like only the super retards turned out badly like mystery and neil strauss, while the real smart guys like Tyler who is literally building a billion dollar business empire is doing well enough.

Lol someone should post the pic of the roastie who said her best accomplishment was that an Olympic swimmer messaged her on tinder and her biggest regret was not responding. What you Autists fail to realize is yes women are retarded children with insane expectations ON THE INTERNET. That “yaaassss slay queen don’t need no man” bullshit they pretend on tinder/insta disappears point blank in person if you have your shit together and are confident if your not in a fucking night club or bar (both places are the tinder of real life).

This
The internet is different to in real life

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You can turn this post into a seminar and make money from it you know.

>available for free on blogs like Roissy in DC/Roosh from 10+ years ago, and you can read it in like an hour or two and be set for life
Link for Roosh? I can't find anything other than reports of him being a rapist.

>he isnt taking pu advice from vince kelvin
not gonna make it

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it didnt collapse, rsd is making millions

Roissy is probably only one with decent IQ, also explains his transition into full blackpill GTKRWN

Mystery is fag. Tall, above average looking guy getting laid.. wow what a mystery indeed. Good roll at life specs, ends up with a mutt wife anyway. Well done bucko.

What do you mean by that, incel?
Being an Olympic winner and a literal millionaire you still do not deserve such a magnificent and accomplished queen as...

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>ends up with a mutt wife anyway. Well done bucko
the mother of his children has blue eyes but he's a deadeat dad and he isnt allowed to see his daughters

Yea men need to boycott tinder that girl is a 3 maybe 4/10 on a good day. If he approached her in real life she would spill spaghetti all over the fucking place but he can’t even get a response on that god forsaken app. Some autist needs to program something to balance things out, something like the makeup remover but on a larger scale.

holy fuck, 3/10 denying this amazing man. How do compete?

How did he indicate that he was any of those things? She made the correct judgement given the information that she had. His messages reek beta.
>But i'm speshul. Shes supposed to know that telepathically
lel

Looks like his strategy involves watching niggers fuck old women.

This. She is a fuckin 2 man. I sometimes fuck 4s which i hide from family and friends because of shame. Focus on her face ugh

but seriously, whats up with his head?

Because Julien Blanc was out raping girls and sexually assualting people on video

the fundamental fact is that despite any changes the internet has brought, men are just less interested in women of 2019 than they were of women in 2009, or 1999, or 1989, etc.

and ironically, the more that internet affects dating and increases the inequality of it, the less men have any reason to entertain women in any aspect of life, which will just regress any progress that had at one point been made regarding workplace equality, political, etc. they don't seem to realize they're sealing their own fate by becoming less and less attractive as the years roll on.

I was there when book came out. I was one of the guys sarging and going to workshops. Pick up theory works. The problem nowdays is politicly correct stuff. You cant be politicly correct if you are doing pu. And since our society now breeds incels, betas and other trash, you cant market pua to the masses.

Its still very much alive tho.

It hasn't collapsed, it just went underground because it's attacked by the extreme liberal culture that's dominant in society. The demand is higher than ever.

As said above, your average men have basically given up on dating. No man wants to invest resources and "settle" for a woman that a dozen Chad's got for free.

Then he released Transformation Mastery which makes you realize you don't really need pussy, you mostly want it out of insecurity.

PUA has breed a generation of retards.

>attracting chads
>my greatest accomplishment

ok

Rollo is high IQ too, and not as black pill as Roissy, but only because Rollo doesn't do politics. Truth is women are lame. Find meaning in your life elsewhere. They will not fulfill it.

I don't know, but it made 2007-2010 picking up chicks a nightmare because any type of causal flirting with them, their female and male friends would say you were trying to PUA them.....

This is embarrassing as fuck, but I look like I could be the twin of Neil Strauss and only a few years younger. People in Dallas would ask me if I was him all,the God damn time

yes and no, PUA pritty much programs you to believe your own lie, so your subconcious slowly programs you into a douchebag slowly that hence puts you at better odds getting chicks. i dont say douchebag with a sour taste, its just a reality that is true. women rather go after a guy who is wrong, but says and talk with authority that gives offs the vibe as being confident and right, than a lets say a more humble men who says hes not sure, or say maybe alot more, but he might be much more accurate than the first mentioned. but due to the passive wordings/femine gesture, women will be turned off.
>cut to the chase, most people are normies, women are the bigger normies of the sexes, and to normies, words speak louder than action, despite always saying the otherwise. the most "alpha" is the one to talk the most, although it would be the opposite imo. yet people perceive and accecpt the loudest dog to be the most powerful/influential and wise in this world atm than the quiet wisdom.
>TL:DR, most people are retarded and dont know what they are, or what they want. myself semi included.

>My Motto is be yourself
Unironically neck yourself. This is the worst and most feminine advice one can give or take

Most people's "self" is awful and in need of tremendous self growth

"Being yourself" is the antithesis of self growth and everything wrong with "men" today.

I swear to god, I'd love to meet you one day and rape you in the ass and make you suck your shit off my dick you fucking onions faggot

>"Good thabks!"

always makes me lmao. Absolute Chad probably sending the same message to 100 different Tinder thots

People who need to develop themselves are inferior and beta by definition

hey bro, whats your motive? you trying to run PUA game on my friend bro?? she said you said 'hi' to her??