British Nationalism has to be liberal in spirit

Mosley was one of the greatest, most inspirational men of all time. That speech is legendary. When I listen to it I feel like I have Tiger Blood coursing through my veins

Are you slow? Fascism is a moral system that is against capitalism and exploitation. Why should capitalists be able to plunder and exploit peoples for capital? Who does that benefit? The British Worker? The natives? No a subset of capitalists who are mainly Jewish in race or in allegiance.

What a pathetic creature, a husk of a human being who sees profit and base greed and avarice as the model upon which to base your life.

Better yourself man, seek richness in culture and kin rather than the shekels you and your greedy grandfather chased.

By the way Sir, I meant no disrespect to the Germanic peoples in my criticism of Hitler. Just to clarify I have the highest of respect for the Germanic peoples and myself, I am a Germanic whose ancestors came from Germany many many centuries ago.

There indeed could of been a balance of power if Hitler had not taken control of the German state. His views and supremacist and nordicist views were at odds with everyone else in Europe and guaranteed a war.

If Strasser had won we would of had the perfect balance:

1 - German athoritarian Aryan spirit

2 - Latin (Spanish, Italian) Romantic, religious and cultural bastion of Europe

3 - British liberal and industrial powerhouse of Europe.

Mosley wanted Europe a nation, all seperate nations of Europe to sit at a round table and make decisions together for the betterment of the race as a whole, rather that capitalist inter-racial competition that only leads to antagonism and war and benefits no European in the long run, only the jew gains from the inevitable brother wars capitalism causes.

>Who does that benefit?
The British workers because of cheap raw materials power domestic factories, cheap goods mean increased purchasing power for the British worker. The Colonial Settler gains an increased standard of life that they could not have back home from cheaper land to the opportunity to have their own servants, while the British Investor gains a higher return on his Capital Invested than in the domestic market. Its Basically positive for all, the only people who oppose it must be against their own race and Kith and Kin from benefiting both at home and abroad

>Nationalism
>Liberalism
Pick one faggot.

We could do that fairly without exploiting blacks and other natives. We could be moral Faustian men creating order and righteousness in this world. Not Jewish minded neoliberals pushing debt slavery and emiseration on labouring masses for a cheap TV at the supermarket.

Are you this economically illiterate that you have swallowed the neoliberal exploitation that people like destiny and other globalists promote?

Are you a Jew or just acting like one?

>We could do that fairly without exploiting blacks and other natives.
no you couldn't they sit on land and resources that are not being used and worship their pagan gods the only way to Christianize them and turn them productive is by Force, but what would you even know about the Empire, your just a pommy sitting in England thinking about the Noble Savage myth

I am of Royal Blood, my Great Great Grandfather was a Royal Admiral, My mother is a Lady descended from a Baroness and Father a Viscount of another European house.

Pretty much all my ancestors within the last few centuries were part of the colonial apparatus. Please don't talk about things you have no understanding of.

>I am of Royal Blood,
So am I, but you would not a damned idea what ever happened in the Empire

you forgot to mention that you're an incel

Brits are faggots

I am actually married with two kids. I am deeply religious since my conversion to the Orthodox Church while in Russia.

I was a virgin until marriage as was my wife. I converted at 16 and married her at 20. I am not ashamed of such a standard, I am rather proud of the maturity I had to wait and find such a bond with a true and beautiful wife.

The British Empire was literally about economic prosperity, without exploitation of the third world it has no point in existing you gormless nigger

How is that an insult though? I don't hate gay people. I am not that insecure. I hope you find peace.

We might as well bring back slavery too right?
What a morally contemptuous being

>We might as well bring back slavery too right?
Are you Pro Negro or Pro Anglo Saxon

>They love their own people but don't and won't ever be convinced to hate others.
Then how can you fight back?

nobody cares about your life story boomer

Are you pro reproduction or anti rape?

Do you see how much of an idiot you sound like?

You either have to give away the rights and privileges of colonial settlers if you want to give them also them to the natives

Mosley wasn't a liberal, fascism is anti-liberal by definition -- covered in this tweet on José Antonio Primo De Rivera, the founder of the Spanish Falange.
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Hitler didn't want to genocide slavic peoples, and there was no force used in encouraging Positive Christianity. And for all Mosley's soft touch attitudes, he failed to win power. He could've won power if he marched on London in 1940, in the same way Mussolini did. Big mistake.

Yes Hitler did plan on genociding millions of Slavs, we have the documentation proving it, we have the dispossession and expulsion of Slavs, the so called "cleansings" in Poland and Russia.

You have to be a very low IQ ideological rube to fall for such shallow denial of historical records.

We have more proof of these than we do that Hannibal existed. Do you doubt the veracity of Hannibal existing?

>Hitler didn't want to genocide slavic peoples,
did you even read mein kampf

>liberal
Does this have a different meaning in the UK?

yes

Cite the historical records then, but given you claimed Mosley wanted to offer billions in foreign aid to empire countries (he didn't) I think you're full of shit.

"Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter, with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It's a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command, and I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad, that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death's-head formation in readiness, for the present only in the East, with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

HITLER DINDU NUFFIN!

>but given you claimed Mosley wanted to offer billions in foreign aid to empire countries (he didn't) I think you're full of shit.
wrong poster mate and also regarding the slavs where do yo think they are going to be put after hitler achieves Lebensraum

Sage for implying the empire was bad. No. Catholicism is bad. Logic and advancement is good. Helping people is good.

brits are the original communists. They love their leftist dictatorship. Take away guns - they cheer. Take away free speech - they cheer. Imprison those speaking out against the regime - they cheer. Orwell wasn't warning against a brutal future - he was describing his own sexual fantasies. Have fun in your nigger-tier dystopia, chav.

>letting yourself be duped in to believing that liberalism = good moral character
Well done, you've fallen to the mind rot.

Good men have existed prior to liberalism. People had a conception of the value of freedom before liberalism (a much more sensible one over all). Liberalism has usurped the european tradition of which we were a part, in the way of our own nationality.

You have bought the snake oil and instead of accepting the loss are now trying to sell the rest on and I won't have it. Pour it down the fucking drain.

>We need to deport all non whites, try the political and banking classes for their crimes and establish a homogeneous homeland

This requires a decisively illiberal and authoritarian state in charge to accomplish.

Yes, and it makes no mention of the genocide of slavic peoples. Poles likely would've been turned into a smaller rump state similar to Slovakia, and the same would've happened to Russia. That isn't genocide, in the same way it wasn't genocide when the Germans lost Alsace-Lorraine to France.

>by Force
Thats the thing though. The Empire wasn't in the spirit of conquest in the vain of those before it but in facilitating purchase of foreign land. It was an ignoble enterprise overall, regardless whether it had a "positive" material effect.

See

Are you an art dealer?

People confuse liberal character with the modern political stance of "liberalism". Liberal character was a unique disposition of one race and one subsection of the white race, the North Western European.

This was a foundational civilisational characteristic of North Western Europeans, whose frigid climate lead to very high trust, high cooperation, high respect societies.

This lead to a unique stance on property rights, the role of central power over communities, individualism, which only we as a subset of one single race had developed, due to human evolution and the evolutionary strategy developed by North western Europeans.

We can see the unique linerlism of these peoples as being mainly responsible for 1 of the 3 original progenitors of the modern white race. The NorthWestern ice age hunter gatherers.

Hunter gatherers were highly communal, had property concepts and individualistic concepts that were highly unique, both individualistic and moralistic but also communal in the broader culture.

These people mixed with Indo Europeans who were amazing warrior bands and the middle eastern farmers who were the first agricultural masters, long term herders and traders.

All whites carry these 3 subset genes, but Northwestern Europeans carry more of those highly egalitarian hunter gatherers. This gives us our liberal character.

Why do you think it was always the north western European arguing against slavery, against oppression of women and workers etc.

We are at heart liberal people, we however need an all white ethnostate to have that genetic trait be a healthy outgrowth rather than a weakness exploited by jews and foreigners.

>It was an ignoble enterprise overall,
Well Obviously, its a pure commercial venture

Is it like American conservatism?

No I am part of the aristocracy, my life revolves around going to dinners, education that never ends and meeting foreign guests or being a foreign guest.

I am active in the Orthodox Church however and that is where most of my time is currently spent.

It has its actual meaning rather than your silly and highly mutable definition - one developed because your entire country exists upon a liberal foundation.

>Is it like American conservatism?
No, but Americans seem to use leftist/liberal interchangeably

>No I am part of the aristocracy, my life revolves around going to dinners, education that never ends and meeting foreign guests or being a foreign guest.
If you were aristocracy then your whole life would be sitting in a crumbling country house trying to scrape together enough money every year to try and not have the whole place crash down on you

LARP trying to slander aristocracy desu. Nice try.

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next he will claim he went to Eton or Harrow then onto Oxbridge

We don't live in stately homes for the most part. Once the servants class left and the empire was winding down, we generally turned these into national trust sites.

There are still some used but most are not anymore. My mothers estate is now a deer and wildlife reserve with the Manor and stables kept up for tourism.

The life of the old aristocracy is actually really sad now. Those who remember the glory days just make the rest of us depressed and our depression at events makes them depressed.

My Grandfather was Prussian Nobility and he would always say the British aristocracy reminded him of the horses wounded in battle. Panicked and confused.

>we generally turned these into national trust sites.
more like got smacked up by Inheritance tax and had to sell

It is considered poor form for blue bloods to get an education in their own country. Studying in Russia was in vogue when I was younger for people like me. I actually converted to the Orthodox church and met my wife there.

Generally the rule of thumb is you only go to study where there is a defacto blue blood only policy. This isn't a real rule, but you will be embarrassed in company if you don't follow etiquette.

The Obersalzberg speech makes no mention of genocide of slavic peoples, and we're not arguing whether Hitler was morally just as might makes right. The speech also comes from the Nuremberg Trials, and the extended speech you cite comes from a book written by Louis P. Lochner with no source. Not trustworthy and doesn't help your case.

>It is considered poor form for blue bloods to get an education in their own country.
Yeah I'm sure William and Harry are really embarrassed

nationalism is liberal at its core
it started as a liberal movement, just became right wing when right wing before it got destroyed and they replaced it
now progressives are trying to do the same

before nationalism entire world looked more like belgium today

Yeah, liberal here is the stereotypical leftist. Pro-gay, anti-gun (they don’t usually admit this openly), pro-illegal immigration, etc.

It is nothing but Liberalism is responsible for the mess we're in. Anglo-American Liberalism is the root of all evil in this world.

in europe sjws are a small minority, nobody takes them seriously except this eu official policy bullshit, but thats out of touch with common people

however ordinary guy is much much more liberal than in the us and its totally socially homogenous

couldnt you just made some kind of a business out of them, growing crops, manufacturing or something
its really really sad to hear that

Its not the root, its more like the trunk.

They are not thought well of. First of all there is the fact their mother was despised by the aristocratic families. Another is one of them is clearly not Royal on either the Maternal or Paternal line.

William and Harry, nor the Windsor wider family, have any standing within the community. Both are stupid, considered oafish and gutteral. One married a negress which saw him coincidentally drop all this years engagements at several blue blood events and ceremonies. He knows he isn't respected.

Lower class wealthy citiens like David Cameron and Boris Johnson go to British public schools. These are the types who are treated as spectacles by actual aristocracy.

Lady Melissa Percy is what is to be considered the true blue blood and somewhat of a jewel in the British Upper Crust society.

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Your ancestors and mine had this genetic tendency, German liberal society was responsible for some of the highest and most regal forms of art and music and culture.

Lets not pretend liberalism is the problem in an all white society. The problem is subversive elements and races who are not liberals but ethno-religious parasites who manipulate and subvert us for their own group interest.

actual problem is that you sided against legitimists and agaisnt the legitimate king back in the day for profits and convenience and now its come to bite you in the ass
its Gods way to punish you for what you did to prince charlie

also this liberal society, superiority of art and culture and ethno religious subversion is a load of crap you tell yourself to comfort and explain to yourself retardation of the modern age

Unfortunately not, most of the aristocracy refused to even make a profit on them out of principle and those who did are now sort of ex-communicated from the community for being debased.

Most of the community have a kind of racial solidarity, this is true of all nobility and aristocracy as we are all one greater Germanic family. I have Royal cousins everywhere from Russia, Germany and Sweden.

Most of us make a living from what is essentially teaming up and running projects for commerce and trade which we then help each other earn money to keep up appearances.

Most of my older relatives don't miss the wealth or the presumed power, they miss Grand Church, having a purpose to serve and a sense of duty.

>their mother was despised by the aristocratic families.
THE SPENCERS ARE ARISTOCRATS NOW STOP LARPING YOU FUCKING CUNT

>Unfortunately not, most of the aristocracy refused to even make a profit on them out of principle and those who did are now sort of ex-communicated from the community for being debased.
i can understand that, but there must be some way, after all they were viable before and their primary use is agriculture after all

i might come as combatative, but you know that this white nationalism stuff isnt real, that is a load of liberal crap

That was not us, that was some of the shall we say, universal members of the Windsor family. I will say this, watching eyes wide shut as a member of the aristocracy really does expose the machinations of the rotten aspects of the ruling class.

Spencer was from a mildly rich family by common standards in relation to his supposed aristocratic nature. His blood isn't of the old family lines and he is not aristocratic in any true sense.

People seem to think being wealthy means you are of the flock. This isn't the perception from inside.

Except for India the colonies were never really profitable, they cost more to maintain and administer than the wealth they brought it. And ruling over a billion people was never really feasible in the long run anyway. Germany was a lot better off when the tumors known as its colonies were seized.

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No it fucking doesn't you retarded faggot. Liberalism is degeneracy, it was syphilis that infected our country and we must be rid of it, our people aren't inherently Liberal, they are taught to be liberal. We must change our culture, Mosley was like a retarded version of Adolf Hitler, I love him, but his ideology was ridiculous.
>We support free speech
Communists should be gassed, communist professors should be hanged and shot, we must out the communists, Marxists, and Trotskyists from our institutions and then punish them for their crimes, this means that freedom of speech, as far as communism is concerned, is untenable
>property rights
I agree with property rights in general, but when those property rights interfere with government programs and projects or go against the people's interest they should be done away with.
>freedom of expression
Same thing I said for Freedom of speech must go for Freedom of expression, only, on top of this degeneracy, particularly in public space, must be destroyed, trannies should not be allowed to exist in public, sexual deviancy shouldn't be allowed in the public space, anti-fascism must not be allowed in the public space. Freedom of Expression would end where the negative impact on society began.
rights for gay people
Sure, but public displays of degeneracy (pride parades and the like) should be banned. Idolizing homosexuality should be banned, homosexual propaganda should be banned.
>liberal positions from everything to environmentalism
Fascists and National Socialists are already pro environmentalism.
>religious tolerance
No, only Paganism, atheism and Christianity may exist in Britain.
>animal welfare
To some degree I'm okay with this, but it ends where it effects our traditions (fox hunting should be legalized).
>limited state power over the individual
I support a codified constitution, I support firearm rights, I support Freedom of choice regarding careers, I support many rights, but I believe you want more

Nope, Imperialism is part of the British spirit, so there. We will take back much of the British empire and use it to forward Britain's goals.

>>British people are liberal in character
>>We need to deport all non whites, try the political and banking classes for their crimes and establish a homogeneous homeland
The first makes the 2nd impossible.

>British people are kind turned off by gassing jews, invading white nations, planning to genocide proud Russians, Poles etc.
This didn't happen.
>Hitler on the other hand wanted to gencocide other whites, such as Slavs, wanted to enforce positive state Christianity on the German population, established an overbearing authoritarian state.
This didn't happen.
Gosh, the fucking cringe, yeah, you need to be fucking gassed. If aristocrats are like you then to hell with you, you retarded faggots are entitled and unintelligent, you must be done away with.

honestly, you should blame less on secret society corruption and more on people being shitty
but thats just my opinion

All the documentation alone proves it did, as did the treatment of Slavic people by the expansionist German subjugation of the Slavic people.

Yeah gas the high IQ genetically pure people who are descended from the Monarchs who created Europe and defended it against Saracens, Asiatic hordes and jewish communist plots for centuries.

How traditional and racially conscious.

Free masonry and secret societies are at work within the aristocracy and need to be combated. My Great Grandfather was involved with one such society and being on the inside you realise these people have rather sinister and ignoble intentions that goes beyond mere self interest.

>the life expectancy of natives exploded under the empire, their access to food, medicine, transport etc all went from 0 to 100.
Damn shame.

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fascism is a shameful revolutionary movement
it stands against all traditional values and the monarchy, i hope you are aware of that
also i hope you are aware that its not the dealers fault, but fault of the one who uses drugs because in the end its his decision to do wrong, devil just offers the deal, he cant come in unless you call him

No it isn't, good for them, I want all humans lifted from poverty. However the Jewish and financial elites corrupting western societies and subverting our laws and standards allowed them to flood into our lands.

This isn't because of being honourable to other races, it is because of Jewish machinations and a bare naked desire to end Europe as we know it, or rather, did know it.

this

Go back to Facebook JIDF insect

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>All the documentation
What documentation? It is just propaganda to slander a great man, that is Adolf Hitler.

>Yeah gas the high IQ genetically pure people who are descended from the Monarchs who created Europe and defended it against Saracens, Asiatic hordes and jewish communist plots for centuries.
The Aristocrats are incredibly infiltrated by Jewish blood, many of them are thralls to jews, plus their intelligence has clearly dwindled over the years, their advice carries very little weight with me. As far as I'm concerned, if aristocrats or the royal family get in the way of fascism then they shall be crushed. I'm okay with keeping the royal family so long as they do not exert their influence over the British people against fascism.

Fascism was great in Spain, in Italy, would of been great in Germany had the actual fascists won, instead of Hitler who had all the Fascists killed.

Fascism is a societal immune response to subversion and attack. Fascism is only a problem if it guts the national characteristic of the society.

>Fascism was great in Spain
>implying spain was ever really fascist
fascism is evil m8
i cant believe that anyone among the aristocracy would support that crap

Hitler's national socialism was superior to all other forms of fascism.

They wouldn't be invading our countries if we didn't give them our money, food, and technology. If we'd just subjugated the savages and taken "their" resources, they would not be a problem today.

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Holy shit I was always told that Mosley was an asshole but I agree with all of this. I would love the individual cultures of the world to flourish in their uniqueness but instead we get this cesspit of anger, what a waste of humanity's potential

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>Fascism was great in Spain
Franco wasn't a fascist

Most of us were and are supporters of a nationalist and fascist reaction to out subversion, we simply can't do anything as the populations have been so docile and conditioned that we would be set upon and deposed from our positions if we did anything.

Fascism has to come from the whole nation. We tried to steer national sentiment towards nationalist resurgence in the 20's and 30's but unfortunately when the population has already been subverted it can't really be rallied to its own interests.

Jews have indeed infiltrated, they have secret societies and open power, this again wasn't our call but western nations who ushered in capitalist democracies, which let in Jewish hard control of the entire economic system.

If you think people LARP on the boards, look at parties of the blue bloods, many a swastika and BUF armband come out. We on average are far more to the right than the general population.

Those aristocratic families who got into bed with the jews are no longer welcome at social functions and ceremonies amongst true blue bloods.

You have an open rift between the old families and all of the true old blooded families remained loyal. Those who didn't have had their relatives become prime ministers, Mp's, bankers and masters of finance. They are no longer of us, but of the jews and their lackeys.

Fascists were too supportive of the monarchy and half their country was handed to the Americans as a result.
He held many fascistic ideas but he was more of a nationalist. I still like Franco and Salazar though, as I like Mosley. I just wish Mosley would've seized power by force like Mussolini did.

Yes he was, Fascism is but an ideal of productive and racial interests for the Nation. Spain was on the far nationalist Monarchist side. Italy to the other. These were all on differing scales of the revolutionary forces of implicit reaction. Several authors have outlined this scale and Spain definitely fits the criteria.

aristocracy didnt support any kind of fascism and natsoc ever, maybe retards like windsors
at best it were people like stauffenberg

muh jooze isnt real

Clearly you are not, you want to liberalize the fascist movement, the fascist movement that is quickly making progress, all we need is a charismatic, ideologically dedicated leader.

Where do you think fascist movements the world over got funding from? Royalty was the only great contributor to Fascism as a movement for decades.