Is it true? Will the solution to Mexican migrants be to give them lots of money until we stop seeing illegal immigrants?

Is it true? Will the solution to Mexican migrants be to give them lots of money until we stop seeing illegal immigrants?

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no, they'll keep demanding more money.

>Mexican
Many of them are part Jewish

brown people are fucking corrupt and stupid, so no

No. The solution is to send them all back.
Make it impossible for them to stay, take away any incentive to come.

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But if you send them all back, America will surely collapse!

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Mexico has the 15th largest economy in the world, out of like 185 countries.

but that's not enough for them, they can barely keep the country running without narco gangs chopping heads off. Giving them more money isn't a solution, but it's the only solution the left has to anything.

MONEY WILL FIX IT SOMEHOW!!!

So the US should nation build it's neighbors?

Fuck no. A country with unlimited funds and manpower could go in there, rebuild the entirety of Mexico into an absolute wonderland, and make sure everyone is as comfortable as possible. But the moment you put a Mexican in office, it will all burn. Take a look at Puerto Rico and the fucking idiot crooks in charge over there. And even when copious supplies were sent after mother nature attempted to cleanse that area with a hurricane, they were ungrateful fucks saying America did nothing. It's an absolute shit hole. And so is Mexico, and damn near every country in south America. The only place worse off is the entirety of Africa.

No, that is retarded as fuck, a shithole with money is still a shithole.
See china.

Yeah that seems reasonable

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To liberals, money is both something to be loathed, yet, it can magically fix every social issue that exists. They’re funny like that.

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Mexico will still dump their poor on us rather than invest in welfare, it's what those duplicitous beaners have always done and will continue to do, don't throw good money after bad investing in them America, shun them until they properly care for their poor like a civilized nation would.

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They say the same shit about niggers.
>need to give this school district billions of dollars so they can host another mid-night basketball session, that is sure to stop the killings

the solution is simple end birth right citizenship for children who have illegal parents or restrict the ability to draw welfare benefits for children who have one illegal one legal parent for 3 years after birth. this would eliminate any benefit to sneaking over here and going on the dole as illegal households use welfare at a rate of 66% which is welfare for their children but is welfare all the same and is paid to the illegal house hold head

this is just like these geniuses that have found a solution for african immigration to europe: just give africa more money for "development".
if they can't make their own countries sustainable/livable, sending them free money (like europe already did for decades) will not fix that.

Makes sense to me.

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This, these idiots think giving money to countries will automatically fix them

The whole country needs a complete civil war overhaul to even begin to do anything

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Let’s examine your logic.
I’ve seen pictures and organizations my whole life about feeding Africa. People have poured billions into feeding Africa.
And the kids grow up depending on hand outs.
So no. Nowhere in the world has that ever worked. So explain to me how it will work here, when it hasn’t ever before.

We tried that with nafta 25 years ago and look what happened. We opened factories and created tons of manufacturing jobs in mexico. Still had a flood of them coming here.

Bill Clinton's excuse for flipping his position and screwing the unions and signing NAFA was that "we need to send jobs to Mexico to develop their economy" to stop Mexicans from sneaking into the US.
Yeah, that's working great. We hardly have an illegal immigrant problem now

Restrict welfare entirely - it should be for people who, through little or no fault of their own, need assistance to survive.

If you really want people to stop illegally immigrating, Mexico does need to become a better place. Mexican politicians need to be held accountable for the corruption by cartels. On our side, stop prescribing opioids and federally legalize marijuana, and the cartels suddenly lose a shitload of income.

And maybe not vote for a president who wants to arm cartels just because he's black.

>Just give Mexico more money, goy! What could go wrong?

fucking hell

>Unironically invading and taking over Mexico to unfuck it.
>tfw we should have did it over a century ago

>invest in mexico, pls

we did

it was called NAFTA

fix your own nation you brownskinned moron

So the left honestly thinks that the best hting for us to do is essentially go nation building in Mexico? We have to fix Mexico's problems if we want a strong border?

Why not just have a strong border and strong deportation forces? That will be far less costly, it will reduce the strain on our domestic welfare state and we won't be entangling ourselves in the mess that is Mexican politics

Also I thought the leftist talking point was that immigration from Mexico has been a net negative? I thought Central America was the real problem these days, which it appears to be, so how will helping out Mexico solve the problems in Honduras and El Salvador?

they’re not at all idiot
we manage their drug industry nigger and we created the conditions that make their country so dysfunctional. They’re low iq and violent but there’s no reason for their nation to be this unstable unless outsiders are influencing it

Immigration from Mexico isn't really that big a problem, it is the central Americans that are a bigger problem. But there is a lot of illegal border crossing of Mexicans associated with human and drug trafficking. That and NAFTA are why Trump flipped the blue wall, and why here in Ohio even the Democratic senator is now campaigning on ending NAFTA/free trade agreements.
It's really only (((New Yorkers))) who are at all interested in trying to nation-build Mexico. Those of us actually affected by the porous border support a hardline stance.

>work with Mexico to improve their economy to the point where they don't want to leave
It's like they want to be utterly clueless.
Businesses have been working extensively with Mexico for decades now, they have factories just over the border where local Mexicans are legally hired to work with all sorts of benefits for the border communities and the economies of both the USA and Mexico.
I mean jew or not, the guy's being willfully retarded. This is old practice now.

This Pascal Leroux guy is a such a fucking retarded loser, he got blown the fuck out in the race debate against Sean Last and Alt Hype on twitter, he's pretty living a lie and will keep doing so until he's dead.

much*

General reminder that the 600 billion we lose every year from illegal immigrants isn't because of the illegal immigrants, but because our tax system never accounted for having millions of illegal immigrants in our country.
So therefore the solution is to just make them citizens. Not much of a stretch after all.

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LMAO their answer is always more gibs. A wall will eliminate 99% of border crossings as well as all sad brown kids stories.

not it isn't they are a net drain of 7 dollars for every 1 they contribute mongoloid

I think I've read that students in DC get if not the most money per pupil damn near the most. Yet their academic results are way worse than Utah which spent the least amount per student. Funding matters to a degree, but ultimately it's the priorities of the family and student that determine the end results

We did do that
It’s called NAFTA
All it did is bring more of them closer to the border and make us poorer.

no dont give them money financially punish central and southern american nations until they close their borders

Bullshit
The reason they have jobs is they work below standard wages and don’t complain since they are at risk of getting deported.
Making them citizens just makes a whole bunch of unemployed people and corporations crying for new immigrants.

You know what would work?
Strike teams to target drug cartels, direct oversight of government to disincentivize corruption. Just giving them money solves nothing. Domestically, we should be enabling Heroin addicts to get slowly reduced safe doses to control their addiction instead of treating their symptoms with an equally bad drug, If all of America's livable, No one has to immigrate illegally. Their wages will go up reducing the value of outsourcing labor to them, it's not exactly the most austere way to do things but it might be the only way.

Bring back gibbeting.

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So we should send more money south, into the hands of the corrupt leadership that's responsible for the way things are? Sounds like a fucking brilliant idea.
Or perhaps we should depose the current regime and put in some puppet? The left would lose their mind.
WTF exactly is their proposal? Just write a blank check and hope it suddenly works out?

Good point.

For any one who thinks NAFTA helped Mexico:
cepr.net/documents/nafta-20-years-2014-02.pdf

I am not sure how Mexico could be fixed now with how the cartels run anything but the way to keep people from hemorrhaging from a place /is/ to have that place be somewhere you want to live, like it or not. I have no doubt there could be a way to nurture enviable economies in Latin America, but it could not be through """"free trade"""" but through protectionism.

they are poor because they overpopulate their resources

Why give money to them? Their country is not our problem. We just keep sending them back across the border and let them all sort it out.

white people should rule the entire world

the solution to the mexico problem isn't giving them cash since they are ruled by the cartels and corruption. the solution is American imperialism, only by conquering and settling can we resolve the mexican problem.

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We should push all the way to the Panama Canal and make that our border.

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"Giving them money" is not an option. Investing in their economy under a sound developmentalist/protectionist regime is.

Some times you have to help repair your neighbor's house in order for him to not ask to sleep on your couch. After all the Reagan/Clinton idiocy of "trade liberalization helps every one!" is part of what helped get them there.

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Send back the ones who can speak spanish
Gas the rest

>100 of trillions of dollars in aid given to Africa over the last century
>still a shithole
nope

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>muh burritos
>muh cheap avacaodos
>why are all the wages so low

>Is it true?
Sort of, but your strawman isn't. If Mexico wasn't a shithole, then those shitskins would stay there.

The problem with that guys idea is that it assumes shitskins are equal to whites. Investing in a shitskins won't yield development, sustainability, and growth - it'll yield dependency, entitlement, and corruption.

either that or make it more expensive to get caught

True, however the burden of fixing Mexico does not belong to the American taxpayer. They got into that mess ny voting for Mexican politicans they have to fix it. Best thing for the US is to quarantine their country until they all die or fix their shit.

Being right wing and being this blissfully stupid with the English language.

>Invest

We give them money and they pay us back with interests, and if they fall to pay back we start taking their properties. Jesus some of you Jow Forums tards don't even walk the talk you pull out of that slutty ass hole.

no more foreign aide
\we will send you books on infrastructure in spanish, thats it

>We have to babysit for Mexicans
No