There is a rising trend of homosexuality in white nationalist circles

What the fuck is going on?

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It isn't new at all man.

Homosexuality and the far-right are a lot more interlinked than you would like to admit.

Nicky Crane, one-time posterboy of the British neo-Nazis, was a closet homosexual, who, whilst openly a bouncer at Heaven, London and Europe's largest gay bar, was shagging twinks on the side.
>pic related

It came out when he succumbed to the 80s HIV/AIDS epidemic.

I can tell you on good authority also that there still exists a massive fetishisation of right wing men amongst the gay community, or those of that ilk.

Scallies specifically.

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>gay men fetishize the master race. Seems legit
Hail the Trumpenriech!

Unironically so, yes.
It is all about masculinity and strength.

Unfortunately, I could give you just as many if not more examples of them fetishising other races too, and many who openly rejected getting with whites.

Honestly, it's nothing new and it would make it easier for everyone if gayness became non-issue.

Gay's can be great contributors for natsoc cause, but need acceptance and need to be made useful in natsoc society, gayness isn't genetic, so gaymen should donate to sperm banks, also they should be somehow forced to have children, as children are necessary for natsoc society to remain strong and prosperous.

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>Gayness isn't genetic
We don't know that, it may be.

Before you come back with "hurr durr how is it genetic if they can't breed?", think genes that carry the risk of infertility, they can skip a generation or two.

Spergs would like to believe allegations of gayness in right wing circles is some kind of jewish freudian attack but it's very much grounded in reality. Gays have been overrepresented amongst influential political figures ever since politics has been a game open to the public and not just aristocrats or warlords. When people don't have a lot of family obligations grounding them to simple money-making pursuits of life for stability, they have the time and inclination for bigger ideas and causes. Plus movements like fascism have a natural homoerotic appeal since they worship masculinity. How many chiseled males faces and torsos have we seen as symbols of nationalism? It's everywhere. But even in extreme cultures like islam that abhor depictions of humans or nudity in art, there is abundant homosexuality because the more extreme you get into misogyny the more society becomes a game of men who appreciate men (for whatever reason, not all of them sexual but those who do have a sexual bent to it will naturally gravitate and percolate up into those areas as well). It's just a fact of life that the worship of masculine will attract homosexuals or bisexuals of varying states on the spectrum.

Not unprecedented with Rohm, just need to purge the problem

Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:

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Genome-Wide Association Study of Male Sexual Orientation:

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Female relatives of male homosexuals have 1.3x as many kids:

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News article summarizing the study:

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Bisexual females have more teen pregnancies:

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Straight males carry gay genes:

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Not rising always was there, ANTIFA
Michael Kühnen (21 June 1955 – 25 April 1991)
And
Ernst Julius Günther Röhm(28 November 1887 – 1 July 1934)
Not even a big deal about that.
Degenerates that knew degeneracy was wrong.

There is not. It's just faggot basedboys from /lgbt/ raiding us daily

Leading scientific development leads toward conclusion it isn't genetic, but mostly likely due to mother's hormonal imbalance affecting neural development of fetus in certain ways. Most likely gayness could be fixed, if we knew specifically what kind of changes occur and how can we reverse them. However due to political nature of the issue it isn't likely we are going to see any significant progress with this issue anytime soon.

Neural plasticity is a thing up to a 7 years of age after that it's pretty much irreversible as changes are too deep layered. We know at this moment that gay men's brains resemble more female brains in certain aspects.

Because white men are beautiful divine creatures, and homosexuality is nothing to frightened of, and please don't confuse it with pedophilia, which disgusts most of us too. I love my country as much as anyone and I want to fight for it. I can't help who I fall in love with, and I'm discreet and respectful of other people anyway.

gay whites don't like this new paradigm.

keep trying moshe....
you nigger are always GLO-ING, these days...
you pathetic niggerfaggot...
you know how we feel about f@gs..

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You know just saying that you want to live in peace and freedom, and that forcing an end to this behaviour has more drawbacks than advantages would have done. This kind of tirade just makes you look like a dumdum.

>greg johnson
>jack donovan
>woes
>MILO
>the golden one
>SPENCER
why is fascism so fabulous?

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Alright you're not a moron. All that doesn't mean there isn't a genetic component to it on the mothers' side of things.

>no future significant progress
Yeah, to which my heart sinks entirely. I would have a chance at a normal life if it wasn't for these fucking degenerates at Pride marches.

homosexuals have always been present in national socialist sects; take a look at Ernst Rohm.

>I can't help who I fall in love with
Love God more.You people were the ones to put your foot in the door that has led to transgenderism, and soon pedophilia and bestiality will be championed as a human right. Heterosexual sex for the purpose of reproduction with someone of your own race constitutes the limits of accepted sexual behavior.

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Love men. Just do it.

>twinks
Nice gay porn lingo you faggot. That's not a term straight people knew and use. Shills use that term constantly because these shills are all gay faggots.

You fucking cretinous moron. Don't talk about shit you don't know. God Americans can be such retards on here. I won't be replying to you any further, troglodyte.

homochecked

>Common Filth was right again

Because they're all faggots

The shills that fill this board included

>I can tell you on good authority also that there still exists a massive fetishisation of right wing men amongst the gay community, or those of that ilk.
No, there's not. Stop pulling shit from your gay ass.

Gay niggas are scared of Islam and are wanting to fight it off alongside Nationalists.

to Fuck off faggot

There has always been "butch" (masculine) homosexuality is Nationalist circles because "butch" fags have always been attracted to fascism, masculinity and militarism.

Hell...the Jews got WW2 started by using their network of secret societies to assemble the butch homosexuals of Germany, finance them into power and give Germany massive transfers of technology and industrial equipment.

This butch fags should be our allies but never our friends...we have similar goals when it comes to the Jews and race but our goals for a social order are completely different.

hot white uncut cock

Black Israelite here, all fags deserve the day of the rope

Incels discover they all have wet holes to fuck...

1. be a productive human being. Be sure to question "Are your really?"

2. get married to mercenary woman. (they all are)

>That's not a term straight people knew
So you are admitting you are a faggot?

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

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(((Neo nazis))) being closet homos is no secret. They're just as gay as antifa cringe

Gays are potentially our greatest allies, they just need to wake up to the fact that the left doesn't have their best interests in mind. What gay man wants to live in a world where masculinity is shamed and persecuted by feminists and Muslims are everywhere threatening his very existence? Gays have been pushed away by the stupidity of our religious right, that would rather ally with nonwhite civic nationalists than with gay white nationalists.

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Hate to say this but German Nazi government during WWII had very high ranking officials that were fags... Why would this surprise the neo-nuckleheads.

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And also pink balls

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Yes, I like masculinity and strength. I also really like nice, high-quality things. So why wouldn't I identify this way?
A lot of us hate degenerate behavior. The problem is, (((THEY))) keep flaunting what a gay person is supposed to be. This makes liberals excited to cheer someone on who is "different," while making conservatives think that's literally all gays. You rarely see the normal acting gay guy because he's just living his life and not putting on some kind of show.

You just forgot homosexuality doesn't exist, and perverted peoples should be corrected

14 with no 88.

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There is a rising trend of retards just making shit up then starting threads.

I'm admitting you faggot shills would have people looking into your gay language

It's true. I talked for months with another pollack about how I would be his little sissy faggot bride, and how he would completely feminize and emasculate me...while we worked to rid the west of shitskins

pretty hot

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Kinda. But homosex doesn't secure a future for children.

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Nobody appreciates masculinity such as gay men do.

wtf are you talking about? go away with your jidf tier shit

Nice

Reminder that Common Filth was right.

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My dad said back when he was a kid there was some tv drama about gay skinheads which put an abrupt stop to the skinhead/white nationalist movement at the time. Sounds like typical kike trickery.

Faggots are invasive and subversive.

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seems legit

Every damn time

yeah I should talk to him it's just hard to reconcile the sissy thing with huwhite birthrates

There is a rising trend of OP being a raging homo & trying to increase the size of his fap folder with threads like these.

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Good lord you're a faggot. Get fucked faggot. You should spend more time getting fucked by "masculine strength" faggots than shilling online pushing gay faggot shit under the guise of heterosexuality pretending to be"right wing."

>durr Chad so studly
These faggot shills

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>Thinking skinheads are NatSocs or WhitNats
>Making shit up
Did they pay you to put out stupid shit?

someone doesn't know what fascism is

>there is a rising trend of shills calling all white nationalists closet faggots

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Fags have always been part of the nazi and white nationalist movement.

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There's not, it just media optics to group center right people that happen to be homosexual in with the far right to make you all look like you're self hating Homos.
Everything to the right of Stalin is white nationalists to these weirdos.

homosexuality and Nazi stuff is quite related.
Manosphere, soldiers, fit bodies, authority, dominance, SM, cool uniforms, potential for powerplay in the bedroom

we had a gay Neonazi leader in Germany who later died of AIDS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kühnen

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>knowing decades old slang means you're a faggot

Go fuck off back to your normalfaggot sites or lurk moar.

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to the people doubting these claims- how many of you even know a white nationalist irl? i know for a fact that most of you don't communicate your views in any capacity outside of pol

Ackshually, the liberal (((media))) tries to make (((gays)))(all fags are jewish FYI) look like normal people who just want to be in loving monogamous relationships just like everyone else in shows like ‘glee’ and (((‘Deborah Messing’))). Meanwhile (((homosexuals))) have literally millions of sexual encounters throughout their brief AIDS shortened lives and they always need to cruise newer younger cocks to keep the high going.
>t. Reformed faggot who was saved by Jesus Christ, before getting AIDS’ed luckily, and is now making white babies Helleljah

i'm on Jow Forums. Now I even know what a colonovaginoplasty is

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Most WN look like subhumans.

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You're a gay faggot shill and that was specifically gay porn terminology, FAGGOT

Well imagine my shock

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>Obsessed with gas chambers
>Into anal

It's a mystery.

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People here that excessively hate gays are truly over-compensating to cover up their own gayness.

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Good ol Milo "too many black cocks in my mouth to be a white supremacist" yiannopoulos

I've been here since this was fucking /n/, you sub 90 iq doorknob licking snatch stain. Why are you even here? You got called out on being a dumbass and you could have just slunk away in your cloak of anonymity, but instead you decided to double down like some media kike on your idiocy. Knowing a word doesn't make you a faggot, but prolapsing your leaky anus from repeatedly shoving your own fucking head up into will.

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Because they know the left is way too tolerant of Islam, muzzies are bigger homophobes than white conservatives.

I saw a Times video on FB showing all the pro-gay things Trump has said, the gays know the straight white men are standing in the way of them and muslim invaders.

lmao Holy faggot

Def this.

General notice, I don't hate gays, to be clear. But I do detest these faggot shills here that are complete faggots while pretending to be otherwise, WHILE doing and propagating gay shit. Basically what I said here

Many founding and high-ranking Nazis were homosexuals.
The evidence indicates that Adolf Hitler himself was a homosexual.
Persecution of homosexuals by the Nazis was for show to deflect from themselves and keep the German public fooled. And only feminine type homosexuals were then persecuted. The "Butch" homosexuals who founded Nazism viewed femmes as lower than heterosexuals, not even men. The persecution of a small percentage of Germany's femme gays was a public relations move to obfuscate the Nazis' own perversity and placate the German masses.


-- The Nazi movement was riddled with homosexuals at the highest level. The most obvious was Ernst Rohm, the most powerful Nazi in Germany after Hitler. Homosexuals prefer other homosexuals for company.


-- After coming to power the Nazis did not persecute homosexuals at all. They did so only when their own homosexuality began to surface to the public, especially because of the antics of the obtusely flagrant homosexualist Ernst Rohm. Hitler was in fact Rohm's early protege. The gay Rohm was Hitler's longtime right hand man, head of the violent SA, the most powerful man in Germany beside Hitler, and the man most instrumental in creating the Nazi Party and setting Hitler up.He was also a homosexualist, an open advocate homosexuality, really one of the first militant gay activists. Rohm refused to hide his homosexuality. He was even a member of an organization that pushed for the public acceptance of homosexuality. The other Nazi gays (including Hitler), were of the usual discreet and covert class.


-- When Rohm's antics and stories about homosexuality in the party became a political threat, Hitler made a show of denouncing gays. Still it was only a small percentage of the hated "femme" gays who were sent to camps. The Nazis also used the new "anti-gay" posture as a ruse to trump up charges and put away all manner of political enemy.

-- Nazism was founded by macho-style "butch" homosexuals who pursued a Greek/Hellenic ideal of warrior pederasty. With the abundant evidence of this, there can be only one reason that media powers have hidden this from the White public while otherwise demonizing Hitler and the Nazis 24-7:
The gay agenda (moral degeneracy and the destruction of the natural family) -- is far more important to these powers than is any further demonization of Hitler. This knowledge about the Nazis would harm the gay agenda. The gay agenda is central to their world-enslaving strategy. It is vital that all Whites understand this.
Homosexual Movements of pre-Nazi Germany
A nature movement for youth, similar to the Boy Scouts, was started in 1890 by a 15 year-old.(See how amazing are youth when not institutionalized in public schools?) It was called the Wandervoegel ("Wandering Birds", beautiful idea.) However, the movement quickly attracted adult pederasts as leaders. The pederasts perverted the movement into a nature and youth movement in which homosexuality was the norm and homosexuality began to spread to the young German males who joined it. One homosexual adult, Hans Blueher, joined the movement when it had fewer than 100 members. Blueher created a homosexual philosophy and worldview for the movement. It eventually grew to 60,000 members, involving a very large number of German male youth. These masses of German boys, many indoctrinated into a "masculine homosexuality" culture as members of the Wandervoegel, were later attracted to the Nazi movement -- founded by masculine homosexuals Rohm and Hitler -- and were the founding foot soldiers for Hitler and Nazism.

"Ultimately Hitler used and transformed the movement — much as the Romans had abused the paiderastia of the ancient Greeks — expanding and building upon its romanticism as a basis for the Nazi Party (Rossman:103)."

The early Nazi movement contained a great many men who grew up in the Wandervoegel. Songs of the Wandervoegel morphed later Nazi march songs. The famous Nazi salute (extended arm) was created by the Wandervoegel...


Hans Blueher & the Wandervoegel
From "The Pink Swastika"


“In Germany,” writes Mosse, “ideas of homosexuality as the basis of a better society can be found at the turn of the century within the German Youth Movement” (Mosse:87). Indeed, at the same time that Brand and Friedlander were beginning to articulate their dream of a neo-Hellenic Germany to the masses, a youthful subculture of boys and young men was already beginning to act out its basic themes under the leadership of men like Karl Fischer, Wilhelm Jansen and youth leader Hans Blueher. In Sexual Experience Between Men and Boys, homosexualist historian Parker Rossman writes,


"In Central Europe...there was another effort to revive the Greek ideal of pedagogic pederasty, in the movement of Wandering Youth [Wandervoegel]. Modern gay-homosexuality also can trace some of its roots to that movement of men and boys who wandered around the countryside, hiking and singing hand-in-hand, enjoying nature, life together, and their sexuality. Ultimately Hitler used and transformed the movement — much as the Romans had abused the paiderastia of the ancient Greeks — expanding and building upon its romanticism as a basis for the Nazi Party" (Rossman:103).

Another homosexualist, Richard Mills, explains in Gay Roots: Twenty Years of Gay Sunshine how the Wandervoegel movement traces its roots to an informal hiking and camping society of young men started in 1890 by a fifteen-year-old student named Hermann Hoffman. For several years the open-air lifestyle of these boys grew increasingly popular. They developed their own form of greeting, the “Heil” salute, and “much of the vocabulary...[which] was later appropriated by the Nazis” (Mills:168). Early in its development, the movement attracted the attention of homosexual men, including the pederasts who belonged to the Community of the Elite. In 1901 a teacher by the name of Karl Fischer (who, as we have mentioned, called himself der Fuehrer) formalized the movement under the name Wandervoegel (Koch:25, Mills:153).

Hans Blueher, then just seventeen years old, organized the most ambitious Wandervoegel excursion to that date in 1905. It was on this trip that Blueher met Wilhelm Jansen, one of the original founders of the Community of the Elite. At this time the Wandervoegel numbered fewer than one hundred young men, but eventually the number of youths involved in Wandervoegel-type groups in Europe reached 60,000.

Wilhelm Jansen became an influential leader in the Wandervoegel, but rumors of his homosexuality disturbed German society. In 1911, Jansen addressed the issue in a circular to Wandervoegel parents. Jansen told them, “As long as they conduct themselves properly with your sons, you will have to accustom yourselves to the presence of so-called homosexuals in your ranks” (Mills:167). Hans Blueher further substantiated the fact that the movement had become a vehicle for homosexual recruitment of boys with his publication of The German Wandervoegel Movement as an Erotic Phenomenon in 1914 (Rector:39f). Mills writes,

"[T]he Wandervoegel offered youth the chance to escape bourgeois German society by retreating back to nature...But how was this accomplished? What made it possible for the lifestyle created within the Wandervoegel to differ significantly from its bourgeois parent? The answer is simple: the Wandervoegel was founded upon homosexual, as opposed to heterosexual sentiments ...In order to understand the success of the movement, one must acknowledge the homosexual component of its leaders...Just as the leaders were attracted to the boys, so were the boys attracted to their leaders. In both cases the attraction was sexually based" (Mills 152-53).


Like many of the “Butch” homosexuals Blueher had married but only for the purpose of procreation. “Woe to the man who has placed his fate in the hands of a woman,” he wrote. “Woe to the civilization that is subjected to womens’ influence” (Blueher in Igra:95).

Foreshadowing the Nazi regime, Blueher “saw male bonding as crucial to the formation of male elites,” writes homosexualist historian Warren Johansson. “The discipline, the comradeship, the willingness of the individual to sacrifice himself for the nation -- all these are determined by the homoerotic infrastructure of the male society” (Johansson:816). Mills adds that Blueher “believed that male homosexuality was the foundation upon which all forms of nation-states are built” (Mills:152). Blueher called his hypothetical political figures “heroic males,” meaning self-accepting masculine homosexuals. It is precisely this concept of the “heroic male” that prompts Steakley to compare Adolf Hitler’s views to those of Blueher and Friedlander.

But this is not the only instance in which the views of Blueher and Friedlander coincide. Like Friedlander, Blueher believed that homosexuals were the best teachers of children. “There are five sexual types of men, ranging from the exclusively heterosexual to the exclusively homosexual,” writes Blueher. “The exclusive heterosexual is the one least suited to teach young people...[but exclusive homosexuals] are the focal point of all youth organizations” (ibid.:154).

Blueher was also anti-Semitic. In writing about his visit with Magnus Hirschfeld and the SHC, Blueher denigrated Hirschfeld’s egalitarian views, complaining that “concepts like rank, race, physiognomy... things of importance to me -- were simply not applicable in this circle.” Igra adds that “[a]according to Blueher, Germany was defeated [in W.W.I] because the homosexualist way of life (die maennerbuendische Weltanschauung) had been considerably neglected and warlike virtues had degenerated under the advance of democratic ideas, the increasing prestige of family life...the growing influence of women “and, above all, the Jews” (emphasis ours -- Igra:97).

Importantly, Blueher’s hostility towards the Jews was not primarily based on a racial theory but on their rejection of homosexuality. Igra writes,

Soon after the defeat [of Germany in W.W.I] Blueher delivered a lecture to a group of Wandervoegel, which he himself had founded. The lecture was entitled “The German Reich, Jewry and Socialism.” He said: ‘There is no people whose destiny...so closely resembles ours as that of the Jews.’ The Jews were conquered by the Romans, lost their State and became only a race whose existence is maintained through the family. The primary cause of this collapse, he says, was that the Jews had failed to base their State on the homoerotic male community and had staked all on the family life, with its necessary concomitant of women’s encouragement of the civic and social and spiritual virtues in their menfolk rather than the warlike qualities (ibid.:97).

Though largely neglected by historians, Blueher was enormously important to Nazi culture. Igra writes that in the Third Reich “Blueher...[was] adopted by the Nazis as an apostle of social reform. And one of his disciples, Professor Alfred Bauemler...[became] Director of the Political Institute at the University of Berlin” (ibid.:75). Writing before the collapse of the Third Reich, he adds that “[Blueher’s teaching] has been systematically inculcated by the Nazi Press, especially Himmler's official organ, Das Schwarze Korps, and has been adopted in practice as the basis of German social organization. The Nazi élite are being brought up in segregated male communities called Ordensburgen. These are to replace the family as the groundwork on which the state is to rest” (Igra:87). The all-male societies of these Ordensburgen (Order Castles) were fashioned after the Wandervoegel.

Through his influence in the Wandervoegel and later as a fascist theoretician, Hans Blueher must be recognized as a major force in the reshaping of Germany. This (and the homosexuality of other Wandervoegel leaders) is acknowledged by homosexualist author Frank Rector: