Explain to me how Anarchist Capitalism isn't just a meme ideology and how the idea throwing away all hierarchical systems (Anachry) and a hierarchical system like capitalism work together.
How do AnCaps make this not make this sound like a oxymoron?
Explain to me how Anarchist Capitalism isn't just a meme ideology and how the idea throwing away all hierarchical...
Camden Davis
Isaac Barnes
Not halal.
Nicholas Russell
it doesn't stop taking satire seriously.
Colton Gray
yes that will be 10 dollars and 5 cents
Daniel Flores
>hierarchical system like capitalism
Daniel Hughes
Ancap is the only way for actual capitalism to work. Minarchism is close enough though. At any rate, buy crypto and stfu.
Landon Lopez
Its an individualist ideology. It applies best to how individuals would act in society.
Capital doesnt need a society to exist. A fiat currency does.
Parker Williams
Anarchy isn't exactly "complete lack of governance", it's self-governance. So each person is responsible for their own wellbeing. Capitalism is the best system for this because it is formed on the ideas of private property earned through work and fair and voluntary exchange of capital. I'd recommend watching "the machinery of freedom illustrated" on youtube, which explains the private law system that would arise. The non-aggression principle (NAP) is a meme term thrown around in talks of ancap, which states that any act of self defense is justified, but acts of initiating violence are not. This NAP is the foundation for any society and therefore the lowest level of law that would exist in ancapistan. More laws could be added if agreed upon, and this would likely happen. Instead of giant unions of states and countries (think EU), there'd be a bunch of smaller city states that form around communities with similar interests. Because of the smaller size of these covenants (as Hoppe would call them), people would be better able to vote with their feet, and having capitalism allows them to vote with their wallet. There's a lot that goes into thinking about it, due to people being taught that they need government for everything, but with some creativity and an understanding of economics it really makes a lot of sense.
Owen Sullivan
can't do it chief.
quite telling how ancaps exist online-only for the most part and seem to have no plan of action for how to install their chosen ideological regime. even ancoms have a sort of plan (absolutely delusional though it may be) to bring about their fairytale revolution. ancaps are even more pathetic armchair speculationists than luny lefties!
in short: anarcho-capitalism is just a meme, it exists in the realm of ideas only and not as any sort of program or praxis. pathetic!
Carson Hughes
>not an argument
I see no reason to have to respond.
Robert Adams
For the same reason you laugh at communist means of realizing their ideology is the reason ancaps don't believe in taking the same route. Ancap/libertarianism is the ideal. Unfortunately it won't happen on earth. Its something we can strive for after we take to the stars. This planet is too small and leftist are too invasive to leave well enough alone. So ancaps will just bide their time until then.
Jason Martinez
Sound like the same plan of action as Heaven's Gate desu senpai
Noah Fisher
Explain in a way that makes sense and I'll go grab koolaid right now.
Zachary Bell
Ancap is concerned with the removal of government not hierarchy.
Besides you can invent a new hierarchy on the fly (intersectionality) so who gives a shit.
Zachary Smith
I'll watch that. Thanks
Wyatt Carter
This is now an ancap strawman meme thread
Oliver Edwards
Ancap does not work. Full anarchy is the solution. How do you do it? Well initially its going to be alot of fighting because of how severe the mind control and human slavery is.
Jace Collins
Dominic Mitchell
>Ancap does not work. Full anarchy is the solution
Cooper Adams
>the natural order of human society is mind control
kek
Elijah Taylor
By realizing that the classical idea of anarchism is fundamentally flawed, and that a stateless, non-hierarchical society cannot exist. Ancap is the updated version of the idea of anarchism; instead of being based around no hierarchies (equality can only be enforced by the state), it is based around voluntary action instead. People will always form hierarchies, Ancap just ensures it's done in a non-arbitrary way, away from the decree of the state and to the action between individuals.
Caleb Jones
What happens when an individual with armed followers want power and control over others disguised as security?
Then we get a state (probably feudal at first) and any collective can do this in ancap land so it fails just by existing because some humans like to take advantage of others
Brayden Moore
Nuclear deterrent.
Jack Martinez
The word anarchy is heavily polysemic.
Archos can mean coercion (as opposed to non-commanded action) or the hierarchy issuing the command. In time hierarchy was also used in a more informal manner to speak of anyone having any particular right or even mere moral authority.
Your meme word games aren't very interesting. Ancaps obviously mean anarchy in the first sense of absence of coercion, not absence of "hierarchy" in an abstract sense. It is "hierarchical" in that every person has a sphere of influence proper to himself where he is master (his property) while being in an outsider position in any other sphere of influence (property of other men).
Tyler Thomas
there is still social hierarchy.
essentially the idea is that the social hierarchy enforces the rules of the group. e.g. if you break the rules you get forced out of ancap land. everything would be essentially the same except less complex, more free, and companies would carry out the functions of a government cheaper and more reliably
Jose Evans
It requires white males who are intelligent
Thus it wont work in a non-white society
Alexander Powell
>Keep Hierarchy
>More free
Keep thinking that
Kevin Bell
>we's gon abolish deys hierarchy and we gon do it with violence and enforce egalitarianism through magic and no central authority whatsoever
Jonathan Sanders
You can attack systems of oppression and hierarchy without a central authority. Anarchism argues for no state, not no government or organization.
Samuel Nelson
>You can attack systems of oppression and hierarchy without a central authority
I bet you think Antifa actually has no direction and forms entirely on an individual basis. No rally points, no team leaders, no planning. Just random individuals deciding on their own to dress in black and disrupt particular targets and its only a coincidence that others join in.
Brayden Baker
They aren't a single, cohesive organization. It's a collection of loosly-affiliated antifacist organizations. Local groups will plan a rally, and then publish information online and hand out some fliers. Some left-wing people from the surrounding area show up. Pretty simple. It's not some great conspiracy.
Joshua Morris
>It's not some great conspiracy.
I never implied it was. Everything you described takes leadership. There are shot callers within each cell and even more so regionally. You're in complete denial to think otherwise.
Cooper Smith
Not at first, but it'll become a white society soon enough.
Brayden Ward
It is a meme
Carson Adams
No one is claiming otherwise? Voluntary hierarchies, such as deferring to someone's experience (like entrusting a doctor with your medical care) are fine within anarchism. Strong central authority is different than leadership.
Jonathan Perez
>Voluntary hierarchies
>Strong central authority is different than leadership
Fantastic, glad we can agree that Ancap is the best solution to this.