Legit discussion about pedophilia and consent

- NO pics of children what-so-ever

I was just thinking. The common argument against pedophilia is that a child doesn't understand the consequences about having sex. For example, it's not that uncommon for a child to want to have sex.

However, children give consent to switch gender, or to become trans. This is where the bullshit begins in my opinion. Why is it that children are considered mature enough to understand the consequences about gender switching (going through hormone injections), but not having sex?

Does anyone actually have a reasonable argument for this?

PLEASE KEEP IT CLEAN.

Oh, and does OP girl have a firm ass? Or does it look fat an soft?

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Sybb. OMG. Give it a rest.

>Does anyone actually have a reasonable argument for this?
Those who advocate for children to make their own choices are retards.

sexuality is fluid anyways. We ought to follow Mexico and lower the AOC to 12.

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So then you're against children switching gender as well?

>Gender discussion.
Let's do this right. What is a gender? Are you referring to the social construct where a boy prefers to do the things predominantly done by women, and vice versa? Or are you referring to sex? which is more in line with one's sexual organs and chromosome structure.

A gender is not a social construct, and it's not about someone feeling like a girl for a day. A gender is biology.

>A gender is not a social construct, and it's not about someone feeling like a girl for a day. A gender is biology.
So when you talk about gender, you're referring to the chromosomes. If so, yes, I'm against giving children the right to switch genders. If they're XX, then their bodies are not naturally designed to have a penis and vice versa. So it doesn't matter what they or their retarded parents think.

>A gender is biology.
Wot?

Gender is not just chromosons, it's also hormones.

And how can children make that decision when they're not allowed to decide whether to have sex or not?

Child do not have enough maturity to chop their own dick off (or vice versa).
This is the narrative the left is pushing!
If you are curious why people should not allow you to stick your dick in a 8 year old, the only answer for you is this;
YOU WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO DO THIS!!
I know you think phedos can ride in on the coat tails of the LGBTQ movement, but this is simply a bridge too far.
There is only three things I can think of that would spark a civil war;
1. Unlawful removal of a sitting president and the political violence that would follow.
2. Removal of the 2nd admendment.
3. Making legal for adults to fuck kids.

That's how serious this is.

>NO pics of children what-so-ever
Fuck you, this is Jow Forums.
>he common argument against pedophilia is that a child doesn't understand the consequences about having sex
No, the common argument is that feminisst hate families and socialists hate property rights and so to destroy these things they demonized pedophilia. There is no argument given against sex with young girls, just "we say it's wrong so it must be", the preferred tactic of these progressive filth.
>If you are curious why people should not allow you to stick your dick in a 8 year old, the only answer for you is this
>YOU WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO DO THIS!!
Oh, of course, you don't need to explain your position, simply stating it makes it correct.
>Making legal for adults to fuck kids.
It was legal in the past. And all it took to change it was subversive feminists infiltrating the government.

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Fornication is a sin. Rape is also a sin. When someone is a minor they cannot give consent due to their nonage. Your convoluted, degenerate opinion means nothing to God.

Keep your cock and your opinions to yourself or face the consequences.

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Here's the actual truth.
Because of all the constant political faggotry on both sides of the argument, we genuinely do not understand the actual psychology and facts about this issue.

Seriously. We don't actually know. That's the real problem and why it's all so risky.
And to make matters worse, doing research on the issue is hard on a good day, but because there's SERIOUS laws involved, doing proper research goes from being very difficult to nigh-on impossible.

It's a fucked situation. A very fucked situation. One that neither side is actually helping.

Now, would you like to see my personal opinion on the matter as a victim?

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>god knocks up 14 year old Mary
>2,000 years later Christfags on a Nazi anime forum will call you a pedo if you say you're attracted to a girl the same age despite girls maturing much much earlier now

lul

>Fornication is a sin
Sex within marriage or in the family is not fornication.
>Rape is also a sin.
Rape is not "sex with a girl too young", that's retarded, rape is "sex with a cunt someone else owns". If you own her(are her father or later husband) is your right to sex the girl, her age doesn't matter.
We do know the facts, facts are just illegal.
>my personal opinion on the matter as a victim?
Where did he touch you?

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>Where did he touch you?
Specifics don't matter. The point is, FOR ME(I can only personally speak for myself), I went through far worse as a kid that was considered part and parcel for growing up. And getting type-1 diabetes was infinitely worse. I wanted to be a fighter pilot. I can't even command a fucking Cessna. Compared to that, being molested means nothing to me. I want to fly.

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The real answer is because it is morally wrong and an abomination under the eyes of GOD. It is fucking obvious to anyone with half a brain cell why it is wrong.

Pedophilia is disgusting. There is no reasonable argument for it, at all, ever. It's all about sexual maturity, nothing about them understanding the consequences. However people not fully understanding the consequences is an issue of consent. I strongly believe no human can give full consent to almost anything until they have finished going through puberty, it's the most logical way of viewing things.

>getting type-1 diabetes was infinitely worse
That's pretty bad, my dad has the beetus. I don't think I could deal with sticking myself so much.
>it is morally wrong
Why? Why are healthy sexual relationships morally wrong?
>an abomination under the eyes of GOD
Where in the scripture is this ever indicated?
>Pedophilia is disgusting
How could love between a man and a young girl be disgusting? It's the purest form of love.

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Yes and the jews used to commit genocide on a frequent basis.
Just because barbaric shit waz okay to do in the past, does not mean its okay to do now.
I don't need to explain myself to a degenerate. If this evil shit is pushed by the left as their "new reach to tolerance" it will not go the way you think.
If you want to rape children (who cannot give consent) you are a monster who needs to die. End of story. Kindly KYS

>Just because barbaric shit waz okay to do in the past, does not mean its okay to do now.
Sex is not barbaric.
>If this evil shit is pushed by the left
You retarded piece of shit. It has always been leftists pushing against pedophilia. They're the ones who forced girls into schools, tehy're the ones who pushed up the age of marriage and encouraged girls to delay marriage even more. Is the modern world good to you, where girls go about being sluts instead of being married young and being good wives?
>If you want to rape children
This "all sex is rape" crap is feminist talk. Littl girls like sex.

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i agree on all three points, and honestly, #1 is sort of shaky depending on the situation.

I never said all sex is rape.
I said sex with children is rape.
You are twisting my words to try and justify you reprehensible position.
There can be no healthy sexual relationship with a child.
If you truly loved children then you would keep your sexual desires to yourself.
This is only about what you want. This is only about your sexual desires towards a child not any kind of benevolence on your part.
I hate feminists. I don't give a shit who is pushing it.

If you are so far gone that you have allowed yourself to think that it is okay to rape and molest children, the only place for you is in the ground.

There is no common ground here.

>What is a gender?
A linguistic term twisted to mean something else entirely. Every time you use it to refer to human beings you play right into Their hand; don't let them control the narrative. There are only two SEXES.

>I said sex with children is rape.
And I say that it isn't. A man has his young daughter suck his dick and he licks her kitty, how is that rape? He didn't hurt her, she liked it, how could it be rape? Just because you say so?
>There can be no healthy sexual relationship with a child.
Yes, there can be. Just because you've been taught that sex=rape doesn't mean it's true.

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>That's pretty bad, my dad has the beetus. I don't think I could deal with sticking myself so much.
You get used to that. Hell I sometimes forget if I've taken a shot. That's how used to it I am.
A quick stick to the belly fat(I have very little at 135 lbs) rarely even hurts.

It's the limitations of life choices that hurt.

But as for the "sexual abuse", for me it's nothing. As far as sexual deviancy I have, I'm a pure 2D fan, and loli/shota shit is included, but that's as far as I'm willing to go. 3D porn kinda turns me off because so much of it is fake. Boner killer.
2D is fake too of course, but it's different there. There's no exploitative feeling behind it. Just sick-fuck(and often beautiful) artwork.

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you just need to see masha or vicky get a cumshot in the mouth, they love it, nothing wrong with those

So now we are bringing incest into this as well.
I can only assume the pics you are showing is indeed, her. You are truly a monster. You are abusing your daughter. You need to stop. Think about her, instead of your own desires.
I will be contacting the FBI about this thread.
This conversation is over.

Simple. Supporters of the trans insanity are mostly pedophiles as well

The sort of damage that people who were molested as children seems to suggest that sex below a certain age, even if consensual on the child's part, leaves clear psychological damage

So while 16 or 17 might be okay between people of the same age, any younger and you're asking for trouble imo

Bro, these are just pictures of girls with guns from my folder of pictures of girls with guns.
I do not yet have a daughter of my own to put my dick in.
>So now we are bringing incest into this as well.
And why not? A girl's father owns her until he has her married, it's his right as her father to dick her if he chooses.
>I will be contacting the FBI about this thread.
This joke is only funny with a silly screenshot. You can't just say it.

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Wait you got a problem with kids with guns?
Fuck you. Genuinely.

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Dats cute

Age doesn't matter as long as both parties are White.

all these girl are ugly

would not/10