Reminder that Wind Energy is a scam, don't fall for it

Windmills are literally some of the oldest and most based technology.

Imagine thinking that glorified windmills are the secret humanity needs to save itself. Lmao

Gonna need some sauce on this one user

1postby this Id nuclear energy shill lol

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Maybe things have changed recently but it used to be the case that the cost of maintenance outweighed the profit of selling the electricity, necessitating the taxpayer to subsidize the loss. I think windmills are pretty cool, how big they are, but you can't spin something that big that fast and not have extreme wear and tear on it

better scam than PV
mafia's in on it, so there's money to be made

Hahahahahaha
Christ you're dumb.

Do you think skyscrapers affect the local climate?

Seriously. Imagine thinking that technology from 4000+years ago is the secret humans need to save our species. But then these same people constantly deride others who follow religious texts. Pure pottery.

We Norwegians adhere to 99% hydro craft. Self sufficient while sporting.

You clearly don’t live near these cock suckers. The noise will drive you insane.

>Hurr durr let's block the wind near mountains.
>Durr hurr it surely wont affect the formation of rain clouds.
>Durr huh? Why are our reservoirs empty? Better blame global warming and call it drought.
Greenfags are the stupidest people on the planet.

Because you can. It's a good idea if you have the landscape to do so.

>Ground water is essential for maintaining a local climate that isn't shit.
Source?

Farming. You know what happens when you drain a water table? And that doesnt even include elevation shifts and other problems.

Alright first start by reading any random book that explains what soil is. Then read about how rivers form. Then you can finish it off with a book about how rivers and soil benefit humanity. At this point you should have an extremely primitive and lacking understanding of why ground water is essential to human prosperity.

Read something that noise pollution created by wind farms is so bad that if they were located within a 70mile radius of your home you would go mentally insane. The bird population within that same radius experiences exact same effect. Animal activist btfo

They should try something with turbines in the water using currents to produce energy as well as in revolving doors of busy building with lots of traffic

Kills birds and bats. While less efficient, vertical turbines can actually produce more energy per square foot, are easier to service, require less wind to spin-up, and are more forgiving to birds and bats. So why aren't they being used?

well, it does have impact on the local climate, but it is renewable and produces very low trash, or no trash at all
geothermal is better but only for countries which are in good locations

>he got the whole germany to ich will

>the sun is bad!
>the wins is bad!
>we need more chances for strontium, cesium and ruthenium poisoning through reactor meltdowns!
no matter where you go a penny hungry shill will be there to promote the death of mankind.
fuck i hate poor pieces of shit

wind energy is indeed an enormous scam.
the purpose of the wing energy scam is to re-nationalize our power grid and make electricity very expensive.

What makes wind energy a scam is the fact that it is an intermittent source of power. This means that you generally need to keep all on-demand generation stations anyways, as back-up (think coal, natural gas, nuclear, hydro- anything that you can turn on when you need it).

Now, you might be tempted to think that you are still saving the environment by having wind and conventional generation in your system, because when the wind IS blowing you can turn all those dirty fossil fuel plants turned off.

Well, leaving aside the stupid economics of over-building power generation to accomplish this, one should also understand that fossil fuel plants operate more efficiently at a steady rate of output. Just like a car in stop-and-go traffic, you will actually burn more and waste more energy constantly cranking your power plant up and down. Moreover, you may also ruin your facility through wear and tear by doing this load-balancing with the wind.

Combining wind with hydro and with specially-designed peaking facilities mitigates this somewhat, but peaking facilities need to be paid when not running (or they won't get built) and you need the right geography for hydro).

The net effect of this load-balancing is far less than the expected reduction of emissions (ins some cases increases), and a massive increase in cost.

So it is quite correct to call wind energy a scam. It costs a lot and it achieves fuck all.

>revolving doors of busy building

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kek
look at them, trying their best to sell you on bullshit.
what a pathetic existence

If climate is maintained locally and I live in a well maintained local climate, why should I care about the prophetic doom supposedly in the future?

Know what happens when you drain a river? Or catch rain water?

Know where city water comes from?

Lol

no wind turbine will ever generate enough electricity to pay for its construction and maintenance, and these turbines don't last more than 10 years before falling apart.

>in Canada irrigation has not been invented

you laugh but imagine energy from all fat americans forced to push turbines

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Most of our windmills run on motors using electricity from our nuclear plants. We turn on all the windmills when we know government officials are coming to town.

No way

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>Kills birds and bats

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but that defeats the purpose

You're implying a low water table has o negative effects on soil or land? How can you be this retarded?
>flag checks out

We can artificially maintain a climate but it's expensive and has poor productivity. This is why the vast majority of farming happens on small 'fertile' lands such as the Nile estuary or most of Western Europe and the Yellow River.
Meanwhile American farming has been on permanent subsidies even though you are forced to substitute sugar for corn syrup and other such disgusting food choices.

Not if the purpose is to receive subsidies.

>Irrigation and ground water are somehow unrelated concepts.
You don't actually believe this right? Have you never seen a river before? Or were you planning on irrigating from the sea?

375 square miles of wind mills equal one nuclear power plant.

What do you drink then faggot? Do you lick puddles after it rains? What do you do in a dry continent like Africa? Just die? I thought the flat earthers were fucked up, but this might be the stupidest thing I've ever read. 10/10 troll, made me reply. Have a fucking you, cunt.

>Cali is retarded
>30% of energy must be (((green)))
>Build giant windmills by la
>Hundreds and hundreds
>maybe thousands of them
>Look like they cost a million each
>Like 2 or 3 of them even moved when we drove by
total SCAM

Right. Cities/regional authorities try to do a good job of maintaining water tables, and they don't always. This why they will have sprinkler bans and shit. Water tables being too low causes serious problems. Poor soil quality, shifting earth, and wildlife damage are some. You can use water tables but doing things that add extra pressures is not necessarily a wise idea and has to be closely managed.

bullshit

bullshit

cali has a solar heating power generation plant, of course you don't know what that is because you're a fucking worthless piece of shit.
I'd rather see all of you shills be killed and replace with a green system, that would be a carbon neutral concept.
Hmm I might just write a paper on in and let the jews decide if it's a good idea. They love killing their cut-dick slaves

It's no use, Bong. These people are full retards.

Any undertaking involving government subsidies or benefits is bound to become a scam.

Perhaps you've heard of rivers and lakes, where every non coastal city or town is built next to

We have these magical things called hills that catch the rain effectively. The rain then runs into these magical things called rivers. The river water is then magically collected into reservoirs which is then magically supplied through pipes to people's houses.
Supprise supprise the areas of the UK that use reservoirs as the main source of water have the best environment while the welltards constantly suffer droughts.
Then there is recycled water in London which is similar to USA processed water and it sucks just as bad as the USA city water supply. Enjoy drinking other people's piss if you live in a city nowadays.

rodaku, EU forces errybody to do 30% green energy or some shekel punishment
incoming angry green protesters

>t-they have solar too
Are you literally retarded? There’s billions of dollars in windmills just SITTING there doing nothing 99% of the time

Windmills can't provide base load.
You always have to keep a conventional power station on hot standby to be able to compensate changing generating capacity.

I dont think you realize how vast groundwater resources actually are or how quickly it replenishes.

t. Environmental Engineer

What are some real clean efficient energy source? Solar?

google.com/amp/s/oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Is-Renewable-Energy-As-Clean-As-We-Think.amp.html

>Wind plants reach a sound pressure level of 90-100 decibels, with scientific studies suggesting that exposure to such a level of noise will lead to annoyance, sleep disturbances, headaches, anxiety, depression and cognitive dysfunction. These risks can be, and often are, mitigated by building wind plants a safe distance from any sort of human habitation. Yet it would be very difficult to convince birds that sticking to their traditional habitats and migration routes is no longer desirable.

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hydroelectric and solar are alright

I think you need to consider some of the statements made in this thread and perhaps go back to university without a commie/green as the teacher this time. It's unfortunate that you wasted your time and money for such a substandard education.

Wave/tide

You are both millennial retards

Solar is pretty much king as long as you don't place them flat on the ground like a drooling retard.
Tell South America about how great Hydroelectric is.
>Flooded vast swathes of the Amazon with their mega dam.

Based American.
Nuclear energy is the only viable energy source going forward.

Salt of the Earth detected.

Well you could do anything retarded I guess kek

Batteries

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Oh dear just look at that web address
oilprice.com
'scientific studies'
>oil industry pretending to care about birds all of a sudden
Pah utter nonsense.
Have you ever been near a wind turbine user?

But user, don't you know? Wind is "renewable".

Envirofags are some of the most retarded people ever, they can't even grasp the basics of energy transfer.

This is "wind is a nonrenewable resource" levels of retarded.
>dig well
>extract ground water
>use
Where does used water go? BACK IN THE FUCKING GROUND

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>derides nuclear
>most populous province relies on nuclear power to supply clean electricity

Day of the rake soon, leaf.

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>People piss into the ground then use a well to pull it up and drink it again.
Now this is a ground breaking theory. Clearly it needs to be rolled out across America.

>solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment.

>This is one of the dirty little secrets behind the push for renewable energy. While consumers might view solar panels as harmless little windows made from glass and plastic, the reality is that they are intricately constructed from a variety of materials, making it difficult to disassemble and recycle them. Japan is already scrambling for ways to reuse its mounting inventory of solar-panel waste, which is expected to exceed 10,000 tons by 2020 and grow by 700,000 to 800,000 tons per year by 2040. Solutions are hard to find, due both to the labor-intensive process of breaking down the panels and to the low price of scrap. (Dan Whitten, a spokesman for the Solar Energy Industries Association, disputes EP’s study. In an e-mail to me, he claims that solar panels are “mainly made up of easy-to-recycle materials that can be successfully recovered and reused at the end of their useful life.”)

This will also be a problem here in the U.S., which has more than 1.4 million solar-energy installations now in use, including many already near the end of their 25-year lifespan. Federal and state governments have been slow to enact disposal and recycling policies, undoubtedly fearful of raising any red flags about the environmental threat posed by a purported climate-change panacea. Meanwhile, at precisely the moment when, because of the rise of smartphones, Americans are generating less waste from consumer electronics, discarded solar panels are stacking up. EP estimates that Americans with solar roofs produce 30 to 60 percent more electronic waste than non-solar households.

Yes. Used water totally just ends up back in the water table through magic when you take it out and you contaminate it. Totally. That's exactly how it works. Uh-huh.

Based maple leaf

Solar is better. Nuclear is even better.

Maybe if shitskins didn't build your reactors, they would not be melting down.

The real redpill is whether we have centralized power generation, or un-centralized like in the middle ages, because a country that has centralized power generation is so vulnerable to collapse, let's say the country is dependant on one big central power plant, that gets taken out immediately the whole country goes into a crisis. But in a system like in medieval times, most villages had their own windmills, draft animals or waterwheels, which meant that if a crisis affected one village, it wouldn't mean anything for surrounding villages because they all had their own means of power generation available to them intact.
The same principle applies to food production, we are more and more moving to centralized food production and trading + export, as opposed to each small community growing their own food, which is a system that is much more immune to crisis. The centralized system can be devastated if a crisis occurs. Whole countries could lose their power.
Take heat generation as a good example, in a more traditional system each house in a given country supplies its own heat during the winter with a wood furnace . Each house has stored enough wood to warm the house for the winter. What if there is a crisis in wood trade during the winter? No effect... Now look at a modern society where each house is warmed electrically during the winter. What if the power shuts down? Devastating crisis...

Its a bit more complicated that that, but honestly its like you dont know what the water cycle is

Just try to enjoy the short time we all have left. We were so innocent during the industrial revolution. People thought science could exploit nature all the way to godhood, or at least into colonizing space. Look at us now in our overcrowded, uncleaned fish tank. Our mudball tomb.

I work in the power industry. It’s not a scam. It’s actually pretty cost effective these days.

Nuclear.

>water treatment plants and sewer systems are "a bit" complicated.

>90-100 dB
How is that even fucking legal? Anything over 85 dB is sure to cause hearing damage.
Also, remember that the dB scale is logarithmic, so, 90 dB is too fucking loud.

Obviously, the question of wind power is not about the wind itself, but about how do we extract the winder power, and in what manner?
The wind itself is clean, but what about the wind powerplants? They contain a lot of components, where do those components come from? Plastic, metals, oils, silicon, different compounds that were not "Green" either to produce or to maintain.
What if every household had its own small wind power plant, that generated the power that household used? And let's say that windmill was made from natural, organic materials - basically that's how life in the middle ages worked, again it seems the medieval people were on point and we've only regressed since then.

Shalom. This is the only accurate answer. The jew speaks the truth for once.

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it's a study by the oil industry

Gigantic space lifted solar stations that solve energy problem when?

We’re going to mars
You can’t fix everything
But you can always leave

news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2018/10/large-scale-wind-power-has-its-down-side/

Wind and solar cause global warming.lol

>the transition to wind or solar power in the U.S. would require five to 20 times more land than previously thought, and, if such large-scale wind farms were built, would warm average surface temperatures over the continental U.S. by 0.24 degrees Celsius.