Yugoslavia

Something something...soviet satellite nations...something...independence...something....a bunch of different little shit countries that could of all still been Yugoslavia if it werent for those fuckin muslim pieces of shit.

Fuckin muslims ruin everything.

Because Slovenia and Croatia were keeping the others afloat through financial aid and by sending machinery and helping with construction projects while still being ruled from Belgrade. Wow, Croatia really needs Traktorijada 2k18.

imperialist policies by capitalists

Spend a few years in Croatia and you'll know who started the war.

Fuck off socialist piece of shit

Yeah well just so happens socialism always fails sooner or later

US and Jewish meddling.

t. magyar tranny loving subhuman
kys

Gib back Kosovo. It is legitimate Romanian clay.

It should never have existed in the first place.
After 1918 Extended Serbia was only logical solution.

Not an argument, Serv.
I know who created the circumstances for war. Stop being a self-hating faggot, Croatia and Slovenia unironically did nothing wrong.

because everybody saw through the lies of the Serbs. Yugoslavia was Greater Serbia

I never hated people of other nationalities, for me that was never a problem. However, I hated communist regime with every fiber of my being. When we, in Slovenia, had an independence referendum, I voted yes for two reasons, economic liberty, and personal liberty.

Showing GDP map of region from 2k15 in reference for country after terrible civil war.
>imagine being this retarded

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Multiethnic countries tend to fall apart based on the national lines.

We hated to speak the hurrdurr version of our language on our soil + our mentality is way too advanced than the average Yugo.

Holy shit slovenia btfoing out of the rest of you niggers.

You just have been lucky to live so far up north. Thats all theres to it. Im glad Yugo state will never exist anymore so i dont share single common thing with other people.
cr*ts, muslims, macedonians etc.
Its far better this way.
Because it shouldnt have and got what was coming for it long time ago.

Question for Serbi anons: Why did Serbia leave those ruins from the bombing?

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The area around it looks rich, like the buildings were left on purpose as a reminder?

You cant compare fcking Slovenia after civil war where they didnt get affected 1% and Serbia for eg. which took brunt of all of it you amerimutt level stupid.

The melting pot has always failed wherever its tried

>The area around it looks rich, like the buildings were left on purpose as a reminder?
Yes. Its a monument for every time Stoltenberg comes in Belgrade he has to pass by it and then give speech how he liberated us with bombs so peopel see how much full of shit he and his western masters are.
Old building or RTS is also a remainder and monument.

>implying the differences weren't immense during the Yugo times
Nigga lived in HRE for thousand years while you served yoghurt to the Sultan

restoring the monarchy would have kept it together

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i'm not Croatian but I live here. If you want to know who the assholes were, it was the Croatians. Its in their DNA.

American will was the only thing that kept it together.

appreciate the (you)

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>just so happens socialism always fails sooner or later
ethno-socialism works extremely well. You may also know this by the name "national socialism"
>inb4 hurr durr national socialism isn't ethno-conscious
The literal definition of 'nation' is an ethnic group and their territory

They'd be too busy killing each other to make a change.

if only servniggers didn't steal Bulgarian land, Bulgaria would have joined and Yugoslavia would have stayed on the axis side or neutral and we wouldn't had the partisans

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fuck greece

Because serbs are shit

Did you vote in 1990? Get off this site you fucking boomer.

90% of thread shills and diaspora faggots.
Why even post this shit.

Simple. As long as Marshall Tito hold his strong hand over the country, everything was well.

I hope u get raped to death by albanians

Fucking faaaaaagggg

Why is an Austrian so hateful?

Oh it worked out alright for you, thou Kike of the Balkans.
You're welcome for:
-the liberation
-the admission into the union with us
-having a military
-the wealth redistribution
-the protection against Italy
-the bolstering of your national identity
-us pretty much deciding NOT to destroy you in 1991
-the fact that you have a country
Дaлeкo вaм лeпa кyћa.

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Please don't start this shit again čefur, you brought your misery upon yourself. Stop blaming others for shit

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t. Miloš Jovanović

This.

I will say one thing. Serbs sacrificed a lot for other "nations" here as well, but it was only the Slovene who rose up and pretty much blossomed into a beautiful superior being that he is today. You were the only ones who knew what to actually do with a country.
>t. slovenes are the only competent people here with a brain

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I hope we build a wall towards you and cro*t faggots. I would volonteer for free. I hope we never see you again in next 200 years.

they hate each other, multiculturalism cannot work, even when the ethnicity isnt that different

I agree. You were too long under Austrian rule, we under Turkish. 2 very different cultures.

Just look at Slovenia and Croatia's differences versus the Serb and Bosniak mongoloids.

Yeah imagine not having absolute retards in country pulling it appart and causing civil war.
their only luck is that they have their mountain village so far up north away from Balkan hell.
Literally only thing.

Another burger mutt brain.

I still love you guys. Been to Beograd a few times, people there have good memories of living in Slovenia and we generally like each other.

True, we have ordnung and say "ja" instead of "da".

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okay goblino

Boosh man me kour-atz

t. Dušan Goldštajn-Muhamedović (HNS)

Serbs would be doing ok if the US didn’t keep intervening and bombing them to help Muslims.

>their only luck is that they have their mountain village so far up north
We didn't have national pretensions on gaining clay. Our people mostly lived within our borders. We didn't hate Serbia so I think the "ten days war" was a good example of how we can separate in a civilized manner.

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It generally feels different for me when I visit Slovenia. West-ish kind of feeling, especially regarding infrastructure. And I do feel a bit sad that we fucked all up, it was a beautiful country we had together.

>people there have good memories of living in Slovenia and we generally like each other.
diaspora slovenians like other slovenians in commie bars in Belgrade.
Paint me surprised Janez. I dont give a shit about you, we dont have anything in common and dont even share border.
Feel welcomed then move along, who cares.

and now we're getting overrun by arabs, chinks and blacks the EU pushes on us

Serbia was literally 90% to blame for the dissolution of Yugoslavia.

The Serbs were always the majority in Yugoslavia, and in the 'Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes' the Serb king split up country in such a way, that the Serbs were also the majority in almost every province. This caused considerable anger in all the other ethnicities, and most of all the Croats, who in return became Nazi collaborators and committed horrible war crimes against Serbian civilians (Jasenovac concentration camp).

The communists inherited Yugoslavia after WW2, and they knew exactly what was the problem and at all cost wanted to avoid repeating it. So they decided to balance the power between all ethnicities, such that no single ethnicity could pass laws that would harm another. Most importantly this meant leaving the supreme executive power in the hands of a council of 6, the communist party chairman of each member state - and requiring a simple majority to declare war, change the constitution, pass laws, etc. Montenegro, Serbia, and Macedonia would always give the "pro-Serbian/Orthodox" vote, while the other 3, Bosnia, Croatia and Slovenia could counter it. If the parties couldn't find a compromise over ethnic issues, they would always end up in a stalemate. To seal the deal, the member states were forbidden to secede by the constitution, ruling out any change in the supreme council and making the civil war of 91-95 impossible (!). And to make doubly sure, they even declared Croatia and Bosnia as multi-ethnic in their respective constitutions, forcing any constitutional changes to be approved by every ethnicity in the respective state.

So Croatia and Bosnia were twice bound by law, Serbia was bound by the fact that they had large minorities in other constituent states, and Montenegro, Slovenia and Macedonia were also bound by the constitution. The communist feared a break up the most, and they made it impossible.
1/2

Jannina wuz Albanian?

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Now, enter the mid to late 80s, where communism was starting to fall apart and the economy declined. After the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, many people wanted away from communism, even many former communists themselves. For the minorities this meant either seceding, or fighting the hardliners in Belgrade - of course the former option was more convenient. Slovenia especially wanted to secede, since they were the most economically developed republic.

Milosevic came to power as the chairman of the Serbian communist party, and he realized what a secession of Slovenia would mean in the supreme council - a 3 to 2 "pro-Serbian/Orthodox" majority on every vote. Since Serbia never had any claim on Slovenia, he could let them go all the same. So Milosevic incited Kucan to start the separatist in Slovenia. When the vote came around in the supreme council to mobilize the Yugoslav People's Army (4th largest in Europe) to crush the revolt, the Bosnians and Croatians voted against, Montenegrins and Macedonians for, and everybody waited for Milosevic (Serbia) to seal the deal. However, Milosevic voted against, and the army was powerless.

Since the Slovenian separatists were uncontested and were besieging Yugoslav border troops and recruits in their barracks, Yugoslavia had no other option but to (unconstitutionally) accept the Slovenian independence. At the cost of the lives of few recruits, Milosevic had won a great victory for the Serbs, who now de-facto ruled the council. And since he was the Serbian chairman, he was the de-facto new dictator of Yugoslavia. Croatia and Bosnia couldn't possibly leave, since unlike Slovenia, they were bound by their own constitutions and would have to convince the Serbian minority in their country to secede - which would never have happened.

Of course, many Croats and Bosnians were having none of it. And this is where the civil war begins.
So tl;dr Serbs are 90% responsible for all the shit that happened in the last few decades.

Serbian autism.

Yeah imagine having country that doesnt have anything in common with Serbia and almost no serbs and a country like Bosnia and Cro*tia where half of their imaginary states circle out over a milion and in later case thousands of serbs who were suddenly enemies.
Yeah you realy knew how to shoot at JNA basis and recruits for your balvan revolucija.
.You even dare to call it pretensions on gaining clay.
Yeah go fuck yourself Janez

That's only part of the story. Serbia and Bosnia were kinda backwards even before the war and before communism.
Pic related, literacy rate in 1931.

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Those were Serbs who used to work in Slovenia. Met quite a few of them and they all speak of good times here. Some served in the army here, again good times.
Idk why you're so salty. I see no reason why Serbs and Slovens should hate each other. We even have some mutual strategic benefits. I'd focus on that.

>Yeah you realy knew how to shoot at JNA basis and recruits for your balvan revolucija.
Shooting at JLA personnel was highly discouraged. It rarely escalated to the point of an actual war clash. We set up barricades and most of the work was done by the police. Don't overblow this shit pls.

>You even dare to call it pretensions on gaining clay.
Yes, I acknowledge the difficulty of your position. I said we were lucky not to have this fucked up relation between our country and ethnic border.

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Yeah convinetly ignore golden age of that failed state, lets just take periods of it lowest.
Also you do realise how many times less people lived in those northern regions compared to rest of the fucking country.
Even today Slovenia has what, about milion residents.
Its like comparing Luxemburg GDP with German one, misleading at best.

yes but you don't deserve it because you are mudslimes

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>Radu don't know serbs started the ww1 killing Franz Ferdinand

Nice map. It beautifully illustrates who was living under a Kraut skirt and who had to claw and fight to literally survive as a country, with a dream of sovereignty and self-leadership. I'm sure that the uprising-era Serbs would apologize to you for not finding the time to read books and go to school.

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Check'd tho.

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True, and most of the people here, for fuck sake, like the idea of socialism again. We have the most extreme left wing goverment in europe. I just don't get it. Most of the people are fucking retarded.

well can't just ignore centuries of Turkish oppression, Austrians weren't saints but still better to live under them than under turkroaches

>We even have some mutual strategic benefits
No we dont. We literally appart from unresolved leftovers Yugo property dont have anything with you anymore.
>I see no reason why Serbs and Slovens should hate each other
Same way we have no reason to be any fond of eachother appart from personal beliefs.
>Some served in the army here, again good times.
Yeah, many others served too and you shot at them during 90s in JNA kasarne with a downing of helicpoter also with your ``peacefull`` stupid revolution. Lets not forget how you stopped food coming to those poor recruits for days.
>et quite a few of them and they all speak of good times here
Pecalbeni workers speak noce of country they work in, i wonder why.
>Don't overblow this shit pls.
Yeah i will believe your shit instead of my own eyes and ears.
>Yes, I acknowledge the difficulty of your position. I said we were lucky not to have this fucked up relation between our country and ethnic border.
Yeah, now act all smugg and dandy how you are so smart and succesfful to rise from rest of us barbarians. Keep on sucking that i realy, honestly dont care if it boosts your ego for some reason.

>us pretty much deciding NOT to destroy you in 1991
Ahahaha. You shat in the helmet while I looked you through the sniper, former Turkic vasal and nowadays čefurdžija.

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shut the fuck up cracker

crackers cannot be oppressed. crackers are devils

Well for starters it looks like it was a bad deal for Slovenia and Croatia

This. Bump.

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>Why doesn't this country exist again?
language barrier

because the different populations in this region don't speak the same language

and we don't believe in the same God

how do you make a sign of a cross, with two or with three fingers?

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>You shat in the helmet while I looked you through the sniper
Shooting recruits from ambush is literal tier mountain nigger cowardness.
Now slovenian showing it true colors. Luckily we learned what you faggots are.
>čefurdžija
Stable boy dares to call someone that. kek

fuck off back to some asian thread, no one wants you here

>Yeah, many others served too and you shot at them during 90s in JNA kasarne with a downing of helicpoter also with your ``peacefull`` stupid revolution. Lets not forget how you stopped food coming to those poor recruits for days
Listen you fuck, you niggers were given clear and straight options: surrender and get safely deported home, what the majority of reasonable people did OR fight for literally nothing.
Don't cry over it like a baby now. It was't oppression, there were no warcrimes. You just repeat some emotional slogans.
Where were you at that time?

>Yeah, now act all smugg and dandy how you are so smart and succesfful to rise from rest of us barbarians
You obviously have some national pride issues. It's a world know fact that you acted in a barbaric manner be it in Bosnia or elsewhere.
The fact that we Slovenes managed to deescalate the situation with so little damage and casualties is a miracle.
Get cucked!

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>because the different populations in this region don't speak the same language
Yes, you realy need subtitles to understand me Stipe.
>and we don't believe in the same God
Oooook . absolute kek
>how do you make a sign of a cross, with two or with three fingers?
Why does it even matter ?

do not talk back to your african master wh*Te dog

Speak for yourself. I hated them with all my heart. Primitive and possesive Slavic cunts full of themselves, that's what they are. Let them eat Balkan shit now, washing closets all over Europe.

It was communistic hellhole, rulled by Belgrade crypto jewish čaršija.

Relax Janša, not everything is A or B here.

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>Listen you fuck, you niggers were given clear and straight options: surrender and get safely deported home, what the majority of reasonable people did OR fight for literally nothing.
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE MOUNTAIN NIGGER PEASANTS TO GIVE JNA ORDERS TO LEAVE FROM ITS OWN TERITORY.
well you know what, you can suck your own dick how ever you like, if Slobodan didnt give you green light you would literally end up worse than Bosnia for all of your kikery little shitheads.
>You obviously have some national pride issues. It's a world know fact that you acted in a barbaric manner be it in Bosnia or elsewhere.
Well one of our problems was that commie shitheads didnt allow us to murder every single one of you traitor fucktards but let the country slide it civil war and shit storm. I believe many lives and future would have been saved.
No point now talking about spilled milk.
>The fact that we Slovenes managed to deescalate the situation with so little damage and casualties is a miracle
hahahahahahaha you realy need to erect 20 m Slobodan Milosevic statue for that.
>Get cucked!
Yeah sure, does it hurt that i dont buy up your shit and lies ? Im sure it does.

I was just thinking about them the other day. My town has a monument commemorating an international ploughing competition we had many years back, with such nations as "Yugoslawia" and "Rhodesia"

>Why does it even matter ?
duhovnost.net/zasto-i-kako-se-krizamo/

you make the sign of a cross with tree fingers, we do it it two

maybe you do not understand what that means because of the language barrier