Girlfriend and I are getting married in a few months. Needless to say well become sexually active after...

>U-used goods is a myth!
Sure m8. Not even using anecdotal evidence, virgin marriages (at least for the woman) are statistically more stable.

What is wrong with being a virgin? You really are a stupid roastie.

Can you invite me to your wedding op? Ive always wanted to see a genuine virginal wedding. Maybe you and your fiancees friends are virgins too? Id like to meet people like you

Hes right you know.

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>STATISTICS
>STABLE
You cuck. Stable doesn't mean happy.
And statistics don't mean jack or shit.

Something something the primary response from roasties when confronted with their promiscuity is to assume that virginity is as offensive to the opposition as promiscuity is to them. Which doesn't make any sense, but it's solid logic in their own minds.

Notice how even in less shitposty environments than this thread, any criticism of promiscuity will first be met with an attack on virginity as a concept (always male) independent of whether or not the person is a virgin or not.

>Stable doesn't mean happy.
>Statistics are useless
Fuck outta here lmao.

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Maybe use those statistics and get laid. Tell me how it works out. Statistically

You're missing the point those statistcs tell you not to get laid for future happiness and stability.

Refer to the image here:

Idk, Sounds super religiony.
Like the whole "live like a hobo, turn the other cheek, and be rewarded when you die we promise".
I'd prefer to make my own happiness and stability.

Thousands of cultures value delayed sexual gratification for happiness regardless of religion

>oh lookie here a roadmap to success and happiness
>burns it
>don't need that shit I'm the smartest man that ever lived.

Ask to the nearest priest you found, he'll help you based on his experience.

Only virgins believe in those memes.

And every organized religion.

Lots of cultures value circumcision as well. It doesn't mean it's good. It means it's simple
If we all follow the same map, we all end up at the same treasure. And by then the guy who got there first already raided the place and probably didn't leave an IOU.

So organized virgins too

IIRC only two cultures actually value circumcision. It's legal in the US for financial reasons, not cultural ones.

>Organized religions often promote the notion of large families and as a result a prerequisite large amount of fucking
>Religion is organized virgins

Granted, in the Catholic church, you're supposed to be a virgin for priesthood etc, but you don't have to be a virgin to be a practicing member of the religion.Considering the enormous amount of religious people in the world compared to non-religious, people of faith are fucking circles around atheists and agnostics, albeit to their own varied guidelines as to when exactly they should be fucking.

success and happiness aren't finite treasures though. If you want to face the consequences that you're being told exist in advance then be my guest.

A divorce is a nasty thing so if you want to get dat sweet pussy instead of developing a long friendship first don't say we didn't warn you.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#/media/File:Global_Map_of_Male_Circumcision_Prevalence_by_Country.svg
Idk you tell me. Genital mutilation seems to be far more accepted than waiting for sex until shes got you by the balls, wallet, savings account, house and children

>numbers don't mean anything
just like that bank account of yours

>A divorce is a nasty thing
Exactly my fucking point m8.
Pump and dump. Marriage is for cucks

>he thinks money is actually worth something.
All those nubers are an IOU to the jews.
Property, real estate son. Thats where the real numbers at.

>Primarily in places with high muslim or jewish population
Not really. About 1/3 of the world's men are cut which absolutely sucks, but that's primarily due to those two major religions and the misinfo campaigns that spawn from them.
Just as well, both of those religions as well as another major one are against promiscuity (it should be noted that Christians actually aren't required to be circumcised and there's some explanation as to why Jews should and Christians don't have to but I can't remember).

That said, I don't condone male circumcision but I also don't adhere to a religion that calls for it.

Well sounds like you chose MGTOW. More power too you bro.

Let OP enjoy himself. He's going to live a great life, because he waited. It's a beautiful thing and people in this thread are clearly proud and happy for him.

Much more likely he will have a sexless unhappy marriage.

You're just projecting.

I've seen virgin marriages. They're the happiest and the envy of others.

What I'm saying isn't about circumcision. I'm saying that most cultures do it because its a simple thing to follow
Think of it like those rhymes you mom does about supposed cures. Like putting onions in your socks to cure a fewer and other silly stuff. Because it's simple and sticks.
200 years ago fucking around was dangerous. If child birth didn't kill you than some weird infection would. And it made sense not to risk it until you had a stable pillar. Now days most of these problems are fixed with contraception. But the taboo stuck.

Nice conclusions.
Isn't mgtow a cult that promotes woman hating? and sexlessnes?
I'm just enjoying my youth. I'll get hitched to a teenager when I'm 30 and call it a day.

No, there's a branch called the purple pill popularized over at manhood academy. You'd probably like it there.

I wish you luck man. Wear condoms at least and don't bring a kid into this world that doesn't have a stable family.

Promiscuity was advised against more for social reasons than health ones IIRC. Much like how many faiths discourage polyamory. In modern times, the health and reproductive issues polyamory involves are worked around easily, but I've still literally never heard of a properly functional polyamorous deal despite it.

No you haven't. Such a transparent lie. Just think how pitiful you must be at having to make up shit like this.

Idk, organized mens clubs sound kinda gay. And calling it a manhood academy isn't helping.
Thanks for the luck tho. I always put a glove over it.

I've seen my childhood friend marry two years ago. He grew up Christian and found another Christian girl through a friend.

Then there was my own sisters marriage last year.

Gotta back up this bro here: Virgin marriages aren't all perfect, certainly, but the ones I've seen have ALL lasted longer than ones in which neither partner was a virgin. I'd argue that inherently means they were happier, too, considering they still exist. I know that's not always the case though and some people tough out tough marriages.
Likewise, non-virgin woman/virgin male marriage had the nastiest divorce and the non-virgin male/virgin female marriage is doing fine.

We're making a jump to polygamy for some reason.
My argument is that the sex before marriage taboo is a leftover from times that have past. It had it's reasons but those reasons have since faded.
All I'm saying is test out the waters before you make a commitment to a deeps see diving expedition

I was using polygamy/amory as an example of people wrongly thinking we've progressed beyond the need for ancient systems that have spent literally thousands of years knowing how humans goof off and guiding them not to. People that think the only reason faiths warn against promiscuity don't give due credit to the ancient peoples that knew just as much about how relationships and emotions work as modern man. Check out the graffiti on the walls in Pompeii some time. You'll see that people have pretty much acted the same way in ancient Rome as they do in the US now.

People have always had sex before marriage. They just lied about it. Your pure virgin waifu is just a Jow Forums virgin meme.

>Going from "It's not my thing" to "It's a great big conspiracy and never actually existed" in one convo.

I'm sorry op, but this. Sexual incompatibility is a thing. You should know before marriage.

>Who should we meet for advice?
You may not need to meet anyone for advice, we just googled. Remember most information is opinion based so it may not be accurate or work for you or just be degrading and wrong, it depends on your morals. Try to take it slow. Start simple with cuddling and keep it simple face to face. For her you can physically feel the orgasm inside. She should definitely not fake it but you will need to put in the effort/time to learn how, once you figure out multiple ways it will be easy but it probably won't be at first. Eventually you'll try more and you need to communicate to learn what you like plus keep trying. Keep her feelings up in-between.
Also ignore any porn type ideas, its always stupid things where guys are convinced because girls are lying to them then they wonder later why she doesn't want sex anymore because they are idiots.

>user gets married
>only has sex after marriage
>sex is mediocre
>can't last more than 2 minutes
>she never comes from the sex itself
>more and more frustration in relationship building up
>shit happens
You fucking virgin.

This is the mind of someone eho puts sex as a high priority in a marraige

The only people that don't have sex regularly in a stable relationship - for fun, recreation, as a stress-reliever and time-killer - are people that suck at it or are afraid of it.
Considering that this is Jow Forums out of all places, there's a 99,99% chance that you're either a virgin, or shit at sex.

>girlfriend and I are getting married in a few months.
So, is she your fiancé or nah?

I can't stress this enough

t. 20 something that has never been married and will probably get divorced some day

>calling someone a cuck that is marrying a virgin while you've been fucking sloppy seconds your whole life
Baffling.

t. 20 something beta mgtow that throws away all of his idealistic principles when given the slightest bit of attention from a woman

>marry virgin
This is something almost none of you will achieve, though.
All of you will marry used up Stacies anyway, because you're like drooling dogs towards women irl.

It's an achievement - in stupidity.

Yikes. Imagine being so mentally unstable that you can't conceptualize growing with your partner and instead want instant gratification. Mediocre sex can be worked on in a healthy relationship with communication and wanting to fulfill each other's needs. I don't see a happy partnership in your future if you think being sexually incompatible is a real thing. Sex is sex and like people it can and will change with time. If you think bad sex is permanent and will end a marriage then you are simply an envious slut. You will betray your partner if you ever end up with someone who cares to stick around as soon as they don't immediately fill a need of yours. I'm sorry that you will never be able to form a real bond with another person due to your selfish nature and I'm sorry for anyone who makes the mistake of getting involved with someone like you. Oh well though, at least you get to have casual sex, and lots of bad sex until you find "the one" who is sexually compatible enough for you to develop feelings. Shame that they won't see you as more than a piece of meat, especially with all that mental and moral instability.

Signed a non virgin who knows how sociopathic sluts, both male and female think. Sex doesn't fill that void in your soul no matter how good it is. It is a temporary pleasure, you stupid whore. Enjoy being alone, even when you have someone there for you; it will never last and you are the only one to blame.

You say you are not a virgin yet your post overflows of delusional virginity.

>mentally unstable that you can't conceptualize growing with your partner
Drifting away from each other is much easier that way.

>Mediocre sex can be worked on
Adding stuff that isn't sex... just isn't sex.

>I don't see a happy partnership in your future
Wrong.

>Sex is sex
A dog can't become a gorilla.

>If you think bad sex is permanent
In the case of you incels - it is.

>an envious slut
I'm a guy. And my SO is shivering from pleasure every single time after I'm done pounding her for 1 - 2 hours.

>You will betray your partner
Wrong.

>as soon as they don't immediately fill a need of yours
Wrong.

>I'm sorry that you will never be able to form a real bond
Wrong.

>your selfish nature
I'm the least selfish person on this board full of mgtows, incels and autists screeching "reee, gib virgins, I deserve pussy on a platter, fucking roasties".

>at least you get to have casual sex
Every single time I have sex, it is far from casual, because I'm just that good at it.

>until you find "the one" who is sexually compatible enough for you to develop feelings
A few steps ahead of you.

>Shame that they won't see you as more than a piece of meat, especially with all that mental and moral instability
Ironic.

>Sex doesn't fill that void in your soul
Seek therapy.

Also, the requirement for having all that good stuff and none of the bad stuff:
>don't be American

>What is wrong with being a virgin?
Nothing, it's the lengths you'll go to to pretend involuntary celibacy is actually a strength that makes you retarded

There is a reason why people say the united states is run by Jews

Like clockwork. Whores are so predictable.

>involuntary
It sounds like it's very much voluntary in OP's case.

>pounding her for 1-2 hours
I love when an incel starts trying to have a go at other incels and pretend he's not a virgin.

tfw you stick your cock in her stretched cunt and realize she's far from a virgin...

It's almost like people were dying in childbirth every day or something. Retard.

How would he be able to tell?

I for one will welcome OP in six months when he comes back having a panic attack because he's tormenting himself wondering what sex with other people is like, just like the dozen other HURR I SAVED MY VIRGOONOTEEE LIKE I'M SPOSED 2 BUT IM NO HAPPEE ;__; posts we had here last month.

So instead of spending some time together and growing more intimate as a couple you just want to knock her up immediately?

I suggest waiting a couple years, especially since you've not had sex.

Don't get married unless you want a divorce. I bet you're not even in your mid 20s yet, aka your brain isn't even fully functional yet

Omg he'll no, don't you dare reproduce. You're too stupid, this world can't take anymore. If you really want one, go adopt one that'll already have superior genetics to yourself

Are you waiting because you are religious or because you fell for "Literally Hitler's" whore memes

Stockholm syndrome

Considering everyone here should be 18+, it shows a lack of mental/social development. Its a normal part of growing up and being human, theres no morality to not having sex unless youre talking about cheating or something.

If it's for religious purposes it makes sense.
There's only really a detriment for your long term relationship prospects as a non-virgin if you're a woman, which OP is not.

So in his case, he should be fine to have sex with his fiancee before marriage, religious objections notwitstanding

Not that I get this wait until marriage thing at all, but to each his/hers own. As for advise, and I'm the father of three have a varied diet, drink lots of water and take care of your body. Alcohol in reasonable amounts are ok, tobacco is not. Also, once you get to it, let me tell you this : the hole is lower than you think ..

>If it's for religious purposes it makes sense.

lol, least accurate statement of the year

This thread is the blind leading the blind

>Don't fuck before you have decided to spend your lifes together

>lolololol, lets turn it around, don't marry before you have fucked, you may not be compatible heheheheheheheh, just fuck lots of bitches until you know if you are comfortable, women too, women should be sluts before they marry heheheheheheheheh

That's a sad, pathetic incel rant.

I just thought the argument to absolutely have sex before marriage was hilarious, and I wanted to make fun of it.

Have fun not knowing if your girl is a dead fish in bed.

When you are at the point that you decided to love this woman for the rest of your life. Nothing else really matters anymore, because you are already completely in love with this woman, no matter what.
And if you two truly love each other you gonna figure it out on journey you both take.
If both are truly committed to each other, everything will fall in place, at the right time.
Also, if you are not truly in love with each other, you shouldn't marry.

Don't worry, Jesus will jerk him off later

nah, i will just fap to mu vannila anime porn
saying that you should have sex before marriage, when people actually decided for themselfs that they want to wait is stupid and corrupting

This is why you will die a virgin.

I think that people should do what they want and not what 'religion' or 'society' or 'Jow Forums' says they should do.

I've fucked ~12 girls before my current relationship and i've decided to keep this one. I didn't ask god or you for direction.

OP: You're trying and that's all that matters, I don't understand why you posted this in the first place.

this guy is an idiot

rather die a virgin, than dying having had meaningless sex with multiple women you never shared a strong bond with
making yourself feel miserable and the woman you sleep with feel miserable
true love between a man and a woman is something unbelievably strong
but go on and satisfy your itch with an other woman because she has different hair or bigger boobs
if you think this will make you truly happy

Sad. You will never know what it is like to be in love, to be there for each other, to enjoy carnal pleasures together.

Neither will you.

Read the Kama Sutra. It's literally a textbook made for sexual positions. Try a few and see what you guys like.
Good luck on the marriage btw. It takes work.

I have that experience every day, stupid virgin.

>making yourself feel miserable and the woman you sleep with feel miserable

Don't tell me how to feel asshole, that shit is now a hate crime!

You are clearly the self loathing religious type. You know that's cool, I respect your right to throw your existence away believing in fairy tales and leaving in fear of god as a spiritual slave to a man made establishment. It's none of my business really, but your indoctrination is showing and I find it offensive.

I did both. Had some relationships, had some 1 night stands, have someone I love and loves me back gonna have a family with her.

Basically,

you
and
this guy
represent two extremest ends of opinion on the matter. My guess is you are both American

p.s.
i'm not this guy

Found the heathen.