Christians of Jow Forums, how do you deal with sexual frustration...

>wet dreams
I've struggled with these for a while. As a Christian, I tend to avoid lustful thoughts. They're easy for me to avoid during daytime, as I meditate often, however, they strike me during nighttime. When I'm on a higher vibration, so to speak, from being busy, out in the world, experiencing nee things, I either rarely have sexual dreams or resist them (I realize that women are having sex with me and throw them off, for instance). I've gone for months without losing any semen this way, but within the past week, I've had 6 wet dreams altogether or so. I had 4 on one night, and now I'm experiencing "blue balls" for the first time.
I've struggled with resisting the urge to hook up, and it's now physically painful for me.

Have fun with your nihilism
Tell me that promiscious sex has benefitted anyone, with the amount of failed marriages and relationships that its resulted in

I agree, it reminds me of something Christ said about the religious leaders of his day. He said "They lay heavy burden grievous to be bore yet they themselves are not willing to even lift a finger to help them."

Nowhere in the Bible is masturbating condemned as sin, arousal isn't lust. Lust is being willing to go against God's will if you were to have the chance, that's why it's equivalent to adultery so if you look at a women thinking you wan't to have sex with her, you've done it in your heart. You're able to masturbate without doing that. Arousal can happen without anything explicit as shown by us getting 'morning wood'.

You forgot to put your trip on hitler

>Tell me that [promiscuous] sex has [benefited] anyone
Not the same guy but....
Anchoring, much in the same way Christians anchor themselves to the ways of Christ, is a common way to live a life; putting your all into something you value and upholding its sanctity. While it may not be overly common or even ideal, a child born of premarital sex can provide an anchor to some in need.

He's touching on a point, either intentionally or not, that says to look for the reasons behind the commands for purity. If you view it at surface value as a list of dos and don'ts, you'll find it's difficult/frustrating and will feel like it's useless. If you look further you'll see that while they are rules, they had health reasons that have been mostly identified or are able to be dealt with by antibacterial soap today such as STDs, infections, etc and are still generally good to follow just to keep your junk from itching. From the spiritual standpoint they're also trail markers to community with God, as honoring these with the intention of following Him (why else would you limit yourself?) will cause you to reach a point of internal struggle to either indulge yourself and feel like shit for failing or lean on Him.

Thanks for letting me know -- I was actually a loose "Christian" up until recently. I've had a change of heart and began taking my faith more seriously, so I've only recently begun reading The Bible.
>T. Nearing the end of Genesis
You know what I just realized? I just took a cold shower and had the blue balls go away. I think it's just a matter of transmuting the sexual urges towards difficult tasks, which is why it's only recently become an issue for me, as I got hit with a ton of free time starting last week. Do you have any experience like this?
This is a great point, I know someone who's been anchored like this. That being said, I know things aren't good between him and his daughter's mother, and I keep seeing him with different girlfriends. All I can say for now is that he's having a very hard time finding a stable relationship.
OP here, I've been inspired to convert because I was inspired by philosophers (The Stoics and Kierkegaard) so I started reading The Bible. I think promiscious sex does a lot of damage, and the people I know who engage in it seem to have a sociopathic view of other people. I tried Tinder before I became Christian and had to stop because I felt uncomfortable with hookups. By reducing people to "fuck or not", I also felt that it was making me see people like they were objects. I do see not engaging in promiscious sex as a rule, not a guideline, but I think it's a necessary one in our society, if you want to have a lasting and successful relationship

That's great, brother, ya I sympathize with you, I did the same thing when God found me. One important part of being a Christian I think I should tell you about, my advice is to not get sucked into theology for it profits nothing without one very important thing, that being Christ the cornerstone, belief isn't just about saying something or even believing but rather doing, Christ said "Why call me Lord, Lord yet do not the things I say?" The teachings of Christ something almost universally ignored by most professing Christians. I suggest reading through the Gospels and really looking for the commands i.e turn the other cheek, do good to those that hate you, etc. There's a lot, I can name about 25+ off the top of my head. Don't threat too much about the small matters like masturbating, Christ called it "Straining at gnats and swallow camels." (means stressing on small matter but ignoring large ones.)

Yes, I do have experiences like that, my point with masturbating isn't so much about sexual urge, it's more about releasing something that's gonna release itself regardless but in a less healthy way. There have been studies that show not releasing enough can result in testicular cancer.

Thanks, man, I'll bear that in mind. I agree that theology comes second to actually putting Christ's teachings into action. Do you go to church?

>become christfag
>trick yourself into "believing" in god
>now when you get your first gf your virginity will be seen as a sign of dedication to your religion instead of a red flag
Holy shit why didn't I think of this

I wish I could but I've yet to find one near me which lives in communion together 7 days a week as the early Church did. In 3 years when I am loosed of being a slave of sorts to the legal system (1 Corinthians 7:21) I plan on making the endeavor. I read the book of Acts and what Christ calls his people to act like and I read what he says about the Pharisee's and I don't see the institutional "church" whether Catholic or Protestant, though from what I know Catholics are a bit better, at least at following the teachings of Christ and putting importance on it. So in short, Church is your spiritual family, the Body of Christ, since we are all children of God we are still called to live together.

user it isn't a trick
But what you did say is true.Have never asked anyone but you seem knowledgeable. What about doing bad things to bad people? Do I respect thots and try to get them to become less thotty, or do I shame them into it? Shaming seems more effective, but you know, about Jesus teaching peace.

Not him, but don't let yourself be concerned with petty matters like that. You're just being needy for validation from women. Mind your own business, focus on improving yourself, and you will find that you're unconcerned with others' degeneracy. There are still many pure, attractive women, but you need to be improved to a point that God deems that you're deserving of someone like that.

That being said, Christianity is not entirely a religion of peace. God wrestles with and breaks the leg of Jacob upon realizing his deception in Genesis. Jesus also whips corrupt churchgoers at one point in The Bible.

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I have sex but no one knows but me and the guy and if no one knows it didn't happen. There's no way God can keep up with all this.

Where does it say in the bible thou shalt not have sex before marriage?

You need to understand the vast differences between today and the time the bible was written. As an analogy, jews have kosher cooking rules, but those were put in place because of sanitary reasons that made sense at the time, but completely obsolete now. In biblical times there was no such thing as dating. Your daughter was arranged to be paired to someone, then they met, married, had sex. There was no dating someone for years, that you chose yourself, and consider getting married to. Since this did not exist, there is nothing that applies in the bible to this situation.

Would God be such a sadistic bastard he wants you to miss out on all the fun of dating, giving you new problems that did not exist in old societies?

lmao

I feel bad for you. Delusional, brainwashed. Enjoy your sexless life full of fairy tales and rules you dont need to follow.

Interesting question. Well what did Christ do to a 'thot', John 8:1-11. The thing with 'thots' is, what they do comes from insecurity, often from a lack of a father, show them the Father and they'll have that balance in their life. The adulteress Jesus saved wasn't deterred by the death penalty, what makes you think a 'thot' would submit to shaming more than the light of Christ? So no, you do not do bad things to bad people you turn the other cheek and do good to those that despise you for your Father in heaven lets the rain fall on the just and the unjust and the Sun to shine on the wicked and the righteous.

According to the religion yes.

Whether or not you believe in whether an all loving God all forgiving actually gives a shit, and actually punishes people when he's supposed to be better than us, and yet even the smartest of us know that eternal damnation and hell for not loving someone or doing exactly as they say is petty af, or whether you believe in God at all, that parts up to you.

In general this one has always been very strange for me when I listen to people complain about it. I have had sex in years nor have I masterbated in years/looked at porn and I haven't found it that difficult. To I think about sex? Sure, everyday. But I remind myself what the purpose of sex is

Sex allows you to share in Gods creation, or the ability to create another living thing. In fact it's the only way Humans can create another living thing. It that sense it's the greatest gift God has given you

However, sex also feels very good. It brings pleasure. And in this pleasure there is nothing to be ashamed about. However, isolating that pleasure in lieu of sexes natural purpose, childbirth and creation, is wrong and is a sin and is something you SHOULD be ashamed of.

Therefor masturbation, homosexual sex, birth control, and premarital sex are all sins. They isolate the pleasure from sex and spit out its purpose. It becomes pleasure worship or going about a good pleasure in the wrong way, and therefor worships Satan. Men and women reflect the union of Christ and his church where the man represents Christ and the women his church. In real life the 'faithful' (but really all humans) are Christs children. Therefor to have Children in the right way or to raise them properly requires marraige, or the physical manifestation and union of this celestial union between Christ and Church. Of course you can also repent if you make a mistake: if you get a girl pregnant, the Christian thing to do is marry her and start a Christian life/family. You have 9 months to decide.

How often and to some extent passionately the general public, and even certain churches, defend and try to argue all these things are okay is really quite remarkable. I know a lot of people here won't believe me; some might not understand me. It took me a long time to understand too. But you are never truly a man until you have control over your passions

I haven't had sex in years*

You guys are basically non-believers who use the scripture as guidelines. You are just so god damn attached to the idea that "believer" means "good" that you can't let it go.

oh man, I pull out every time

god must hate me

but that's ok
he isn't real :)

>how do you deal with sexual frustration?
What's that? I don't have it. Is sex some sort of goal for you? See through the bullshit which "sexual liberation" media feeds you, and you'll see clearly that sex outside marriage is completely and absolutely unnecessary.
It's a drain and waste of time at best, very harmful psychologically and socially to both sides at worst.

Explain this "sexual frustration" of yours better and I might be able to give a more specific advice.

>Does God actually advocate that we wait until marriage for sex?
We don't know for God is God.
However, Church advocates it and they've got very good reasons to do so, thus I'm with them on this one.

You say it as if Church was one entity. Many churches understand the practicality of things and don't preach abstinence but instead safe sex and keeping it in a relationship.

>Never experienced sex
>Assumes people are into some media sell out sexual liberation shit
>Has a string over simplified opinion of a massive majority of the population.

Live, act, and believe as you wish. It's not concern to me or disqualifying trait in my eyes..

But my dude... Maybe it isn't media. Maybe some of us don't believe in abstinence for as many reasons as there are people and kind of like sex.

Not everyone is going to agree on every moral you have, and you can't put anyone in tiny boxes like that.

No different from jews saying bacon is evil and anyone who eats it is immoral. No one can give you a good reason why, but if you question it, you're immoral.

The Church is one entity, and there are many churches that understand the practicality of things and don't preach abstinence but instead safe sex and keeping it in a relationship.
It's not mutually exclusive. But you are right that I should have specified I meant catholic church.

>Maybe it isn't media. Maybe some of us don't believe in abstinence for as many reasons as there are people and kind of like sex.
But of course.
I'm making an educated guess about OP here, based on my experiences with modern youth.
People nowadays are extremely misguided and cling to bullshit ideologies. Media is just the statistically most probable cause for OP's "sexual frustration".
I'm still convinced I got that right. It's such an overpowering majority.

>Not everyone is going to agree on every moral you have, and you can't put anyone in tiny boxes like that.
Excuse me? People are free and I respect their freedom. OP comes here asking for help so I try to offer them some. I apologize if you found offense in my post, for it was never my intention.

In any event, I seriously don't think this is the place to debate morality of out-of-marriage sex.
Feel free to derail the thread but I'm not following you there.

I wasn't really debating and even said you can believe what you want and no one shares morals. Not sure how you got derailing the thread or a debate out of that...

And it's not your values I'm offended by. Even if you're directing straight at op, given any topic, oversimplifying someone's feelings and decisions and values is a hot button for me.

He simply said he feels sexual frustration and asked about religious implications.

Sexual frustration is a real thing. It's a strong instinct. It won't affect everyone and I'm even envious it doesn't affect you if your claim is true.

Anyway you seem like a decent enough person. Just think you're a bit out of proportion here, including the accusations I'm trying to argue about morals or derailing. Simply pointing out you can't just blame the media for how people think on any specific given topic.

Their experience is not yours.

Sorry to drag this out, but:

>Simply pointing out you can't just blame the media for how people think on any specific given topic.
I disagree. I can, and given enough reason to do so - will, blame the most logical culprit.
It's understandable that you don't agree with this and it's perfectly fine.

It's true that each person has an individual way of thinking and yet media is adept at controlling the masses. I involved statistics in my claim for a reason:
So what that everybody reacts differently, if in the end majority shares the same opinion? Invoking individuality is of no use here.
Groups within groups. It's one huge psychological game.

It's really nice talking to you, but as much as I'd like to continue, I really don't think this is the place.
Perhaps we'll speak again in a more favourable thread.
Have a nice day!