Straight/FtM

That's what I'm thinking but, I feel as if it wouldn't be fair to them. I honestly don't think I could accept them if they fully transitioned with horomones. Which just makes them feel like a shitty person you know?

>non transitioned FtM men
With top surgery and facial hair? Kinda yuck but I don't think it's all that gay. It's not like you want the cock.

I mean, I'm into flat chested anorexic girls. Doesn't mean I'm into teenage boys. I just like the aesthetic. I'd probably be into the same as you except I hate tats/body mods (and for some fucking reason FtMs ALWAYS are loaded up with that shit) and wouldn't be able to deal with facial hair.

Like gimme a tomboy? Heck yes. A literal guy with a vag? No thanks.

>Tomboys don't exist anymore tho
They do man. They're just not in the cities and probably not at your college.

I have short boy cut length hair,play a shit ton of video games, and my only transportation is a motorcycle. I'm a straight females who's disgusted by vagina. I dont like shppping heels etc. Stereotypes either. Girls who like "boyish" things definitally exist, I exist. Mind you, you do sound quite unattractive op, and this isn't a come on.

Oh and i prefer no label, i am me and i like dick, it's simple. Think what you will, idc

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And I live in LA, that's definitally a big city. Big cities have more people and where he should be looking to increase his odds

I don't know how I feel about this thread but I'll bump it with some music and camdamage.

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See I would be fine with top surgery (tho I've talked to a lot of transgenders who end up regretting it).

But facial hair and I think the structural body changes I couldn't do.

And Ithanks btw user

Maybe it's just the area I'm in then. So maybe it's just the way things seem. But I have seen cases where people are sort of thrown into a box because they are tomboys.

>Mind you, you do sound quite unattractive op, and this isn't a come on.

How so?

Also keep in mind this is Jow Forums, so no one reads huge walls of text and shit, so I just tried to boil down the points that I thought were relevant

Thanks for the bump

You just need a Tomboy-GF I guess.

Also why do people in here insist on them not existing anymore?

I have a tomboyish GF, without her trying to fit into some label. She just isn't too fond of being overtly feminine, likes more to pick up male habits, clothing, hobbies, activities and stuff, without the whole tumblerite-feminazi-dyke shit.

You need a girl like this I guess. Probably should look into girls that do prominently male jobs/uni-studies and stuff, like handywork or sciences. Those are the type of masculine grilles minus the gender-studies and humanity dykes that only try to be masculine and tomboish because they want to fight the patriarchy.

>why do people insist that tomboys don't exist anymore

Not OP, but I assume he's in college/uni.
colleges and universities tend to be a breeding ground for SJW and feminist shit and it's kind of causes this weird shift in thing.

Like before, college was for experimenting. Yu could have sex with a girl or guy and find that, no, your not into the same sex and that's okay. You could try out different styles and clothing and that was fine. Hell you could completely transform yourself or try out new things and no one would care.

But now it seems like colleges are different. Sjw/feminism likes to really label, sort and put people on boxes. No longer can you be curious about your sexuality, your automatically bi or gay. A woman who dresses as a guy/tomboy is no longer trying out a new style. She's obviously trans or lesbian as that's reserved for them. Etc etc. So people don't do that anymore.

Like my best friend was a tomboy, we grew up playing soccer togeather. She never let anyone tell her what to wear or do. But in college she dropped it entirely. Why? She was tired of people assuming she was lesbian and trying to get her into their lgbt clicks.

it kind of sucks, but honestly OP you need to look outside of college.

Is it really that bad in the US?

German poster you quoted here, we also have sames, but only if you go into the more leftist parts of humanity-studies (i.E. Philosophy, cultural studies, gender-studies et cetera). Besides that you can get your normal run off the mill tomboy grilles, without the Feminist baggage.

Of course outside of Uni it is better. My Tomboy-gf isn't a student and doesn't want to either, atm she is looking for a apprenticeship for some handywork like montage, mechanic, something like that. OP should look into that.

Although I have to agree with you at least in part, when I met my GF and got her number I was kinda thinking from time to time until our date "What if she just thought I was friendly and this isn't a date, but trying to become friends, she seems pretty lesbian. What if she's a lesbian? Oh no!"

So yeah, because of her tomboish behaviour and looks I automaticall partially assumed that she could be a lesbian. When I told her a few dates later about that she laughed and told me she is 100% straight - well, sadly, because I wouldn't mind a little FFM threesome. But well.

Don't know about the U.S. but it's that way in Canada.

Probably the same way in the US thouh, or at least in parts of the U.S.

Identity politics is kind of really heating up around here. The idea of what you do doesn't matter as much anymore. All that matters is who it is who does it. Which is sad desu.

stop taking life so seriously

Listen to how you feel, what your logical course forward is and ignore the voice that says 'what you are supposed to do' because there is no such thing.

life is what YOU make of it.

You want to hate yourself for an action, then do it anyways... your problem

a well adjusted person would just stop giving a fuck

Yeah, but I also don't want to cause undue harm you know?

It's easy OP, find a woman who has short hair and date her. Those exist. You're thinking incredibly short-term right now. Most transgendered people commit suicide by 30, those that live past 30 no longer look like "tomboys" but instead men with makeup, also you will never be able to have biological kids, also mental illness, also...

>But facial hair and I think the structural body changes I couldn't do.
Oh. You just like tomboys then dude.

I mean maybe you could handle those girls with congenital adrenal hyperplasia—they tend to be quite tomboyish, though supposedly a lot of them don't like sex or go lesbian. Or even the "XY females" with androgen insensitivity---basically their bodies don't respond to testosterone, they have undescended testicles (which need removing because they're likely to go cancerous), and they have a vagina but no uterus.

But yeah man, I think you're letting what people say about sex and gender and shit confuse you and turn your preference for a particular aesthetic into something more like a sexuality. Don't do that.

>oh you like tomboys then

So then how do I pursue tomboys I guess? Where do I find them? Etc etc

You probably just like androgynous girls. There are hetero androgynous girls out there (I am one). Just find one (not me tho).

>Just find one (not me tho).
Not OP, can I find you instead?