If being a woman is so hard why are there many more male -> female trans than viceversa?

If being a woman is so hard why are there many more male -> female trans than viceversa?

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If you think it's easier to be a woman why aren't you trans? Is it perhaps because there's more to that decision than thinking the grass is greener on the other side?

Men are more likely to be mentally ill, and more likely to be turned on by weird shit. This whole transgender thing is a sick fetish, nothing more.

Autogynephilia. They're fetishists but they don't want to admit it so they must be a woman. Why do you think so many mtf think being a woman means being a bimbo pornstar?

>If being a woman is so hard
You're not going to get an answer that makes sense because the premise of your question doesn't make sense.

If you're remotely feminine and transition you can live comfortably just by whoring yourself out. Women in general always have that possibility, so if you don't want to learn to perform a job you always have sex work to fall back on.
Men used to have manufacturing, but industry gets more and more automated by the day.

Woman have always been a protected class

>Woman have always been a protected class
Yeah, but it came with a few drawbacks, user. It may have been nice not having to be the one on the front lines fighting wars for the king but I'm sure being sold into sex slavery by your dad to pay his debts wasn't exactly a good time either.

A young male child would have just been sold into regular slavery though

not an Jow Forums thread.

>A young male child would have just been sold into regular slavery though
Firstly, my post was just kind of a general, obtuse example of the pros and cons of both genders but I think the general point is saying "women are a protected class" is a very disingenuous statement unless you mention all the suffering they've endured throughout the centuries to pay for that protection. The concept of the disposable male is real indeed but its objectively inaccurate to imply that history has been all fun and rainbows for women. There is a ton of shit that women go through that men don't have to and vice versa.

As was already posted, tranny people are all fetishists and mentally ill. I will elaborate on the a bit more..
Men are more obsessed with sex. They look up far more porn are horny almost all the time. Jack off to weirder and weirder shit to get their fetishes fulfilled. Many of these trannys are damaged men came from a household were either parents are divorced or are fucked up sjw or both. They fetishize the idea of being a woman. They are probably really weak and physically unnattractive to most women so they decide their best way to get any kind of intimacy is to change their gender and try to get other men. As most men will often be thrilled at being offered quick easy sex from a person who is offering their asshole to them(especially drunk guys they bang all kinds of uglys). A drunk horny man will bang a tranny probably cuz either they just think tranny is an ugly chick or they just dont care at the time there drunk and horny. Fucked in the head tranny men get there intimacy this way because they have no other way. They have checked out of the challenge of being a male.

This.

I don't buy the "born this way" narrative for a minute.

I remember one show, ages ago, one the BBC that tried to normalise it via documenting one man's journey through transition. Sure enough, snuck in there, was his retelling of how he was sexually abused as a child. They tried to play it off like he always liked dressing up as a girl and quickly brush over the fact he was doing it at the behest of a strange man in a park.

Exactly.
I would get beheaded speaking this way in a place like ontario.
But its the cold hard truth.
Men who change their gender have some kind of problem going on. It is harder to be a man, this creates even more pressure on weaker men(Probably mostly weak in the head as a real man learns to adapt and thrive with what hes got) to become women. It is extraordinarily more difficult on the dating scene as a man. I know women are always crying around about how there too fat and shit but seriously, women have it much much easier time attracting mates of the opposite sex. I think in reality women who cry around about being fat are just blue pilled hardcore as most men love extra pounds on a woman but there all afraid to admit it because most men are also blue pilled into denying their instincts and go for a fit girl. Even if your weight distribution sucks when your gaining weight as a woman your going to get more men to fuck you if your heavier. Thats the ultimate red pill. Thus women have it easy. They dont have to work out and get jacked or have a high paying job to attract opposite sex. They can basically just exist and eat and spread their legs and get fucked. Men have to have hundreds of dollars to hire prostitute risk getting busted or get married(risk losing half your belongings), or be a turbo chad(gym junkie or roid user or both) to get laid. A man has a HUGE challenge before him to get sex. Thus this motivates weak men to change gender. If you look and act femmy get fat and grow boobs taking female hormones its much easier to attract. But youll be taking it in the ass. But weak men are THAT desperate for intimacy and dont want to face the challenge real men have. They want to get intimacy easy like women do. Women dont pay shit for sex, they just let it come to them.

I mean yeah but history has been rough for both men and women that weren't rich or powerful. Women were considered more valuable, it sucked for them but I'd still rather be sold into marriage than sent to get my guts pierced by a spear.

ITT pol try actual politics outside of its eco chamber. You can smell the AXE in the air.
>Fedora intensifies
Abandon ship!@

Being forced into a trade seems much better than a forced marriage and sex. Labor is worse than rape or learning to fake it whilst trying to not be murdered for any number of reasons.

This is not the debate club, you go the wrong board.

What if they never transition, but also get bashed for being closeted, but also bashed after coming, and den mentally ill and den and den.
>If you're not paying my bills or interested in me
Then when are you so concerned.
>Oh no men think they're women
Who actually cares
>Mostly murderous hateful religious nuts

"Some kind of problem going on"
How eloquently spoken of you, I don't think Canucks would know how to behead something, knives are illegal because they can be a weapon right?

You've never met a dominate trans lolol

This is a board for advice, take this trash to Jow Forums or Jow Forums

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Yes,
Mental illness does play some part in this. But what if there are outliers? Is it to much to regulate something that's already happening?

B8

mfw sensible response that acknowledges both sides

I was "prison trap" because I was convinced that I was too short to be attractive as a man (5'2) and that I was going to live forever as a beta so I told myself might as well transition. Now that I realized that I'm more comfortable being a gay man, I'm just feeling awful for how I've been acting in the past and I'm feeling disgusted by it. Thankfully I never transitioned but it did hurt my manhood and self-esteem, I think I need to puke a little bit after writing this.