Why do you hate women so much Jow Forums?

Some of them truly are that entitled, some of them set insane standards so they can blame being single on the standards that they "chose" instead of other factors. (See also: a fat chick demanding six figures six inches six feet tall.)

No, retard. Go back to r9k.

Yeah some

You want to be recognized as someone that is equal and just as capable as men. You want equal possibilities and "respect". You don't want your sex to be the factor that prevents you from entering certain rooms in life, due to sexism.

That is all fair, I will stand by your side. However, what you say and what you do does not correspond in the real life. You want to be recognized as someone that is just as intelligent and competent based on your own merit, however, women are being quoted into board rooms, executive positions, entry level jobs, having lower requirements for being accepted into certain programs in university.

You say that my life and your life is worth equally much, however, my court sentence will be three times harsher than yours. When there is an emergency, you get to evacuate before me. If I experiencing rape or domestic violence, you'll laugh at me.

You say that both our struggles should be taken seriously, but when I speak about my problems, women call me a pussy and a sissy and god knows what. You say that crying is okey, but when I cry, you don't want to have anything to do with me anymore.

You want to be recognized as an independent individual who can take care of herself and support herself, yet, when you get pregnant, I'm the one who has to pay for your paid leave through taxes. You want me to pay for our dates. You want me to buy you a really expensive ring. You demand half my net worth, half my income and our kids if we divorce. Why?

When you hit me, no one gives a shit, when I hit you, I'm suddenly Hitler. When you smack my ass, I should be happy. When I smack your ass, I should lose my job, reputation and any kind of future life prospects.

You say that this isn't right, but you do nothing to support the other side of the equation.

I can go on forever.

I’ve never said anything like that to my boyfriend. You’ve either dated emotionally immature weirdos or haven’t dated anyone at all and get your “girl info” from other retard 4channers.

Protip incel, it's not women calling you virgin as an insult

Sexism and gender roles hurt everybody, but I wonder how much of that rant is you actually caring about the issues of other men, and how much of that is a tactical derail of the conversation to shut women up (again.)

You underestimate Jow Forums's audience, we're a very diverse bunch.

>Yup. Female here. I think men who hate women are just as cancerous as SJWs.
They don't hate women (though some probably do), they hate that women use Jow Forums, because as soon as girls are involved, shit hits the fan. Just look at the thirsty fuckers on /soc/ or Jow Forums when someone mentions they're a grill, it ruins the thread dynamic.

That's my wife, my mother, my friend's girlfriends and their mothers. You likely don't know that you do it yourself.

That's not to say that life is ALWAYS like that and I hate women, that's just on the whole how they operate

Oh jolly gee, now I wonder how much of this answer is you actually caring about those men's issues and how much is trying to act as if arguing was retarded

LMFAO the fuck is wrong with this board good lord. Are you all like 12 or something?

And if it's the guys calling you a virgin and thinking fucking some random thot is a success today that speaks more about that guy's opinion of women than that same "bitter virgin" he's apparently insulting.

See, YOU don't actually give a shit. This can hurt your team. Completely ignoring all the outrageous things I listed. There is nothing equal about it. You're not interested in equality.

You don't care, it doesn't affect you, it isn't your reality.

I agree with you on some of those points but shut the fuck up about “paid pregnancy leave”
Suck it up. We deserve it. You would too if you had to carry a human being for 9 months and then have it permenantly ruin your vagina.

It seems like you have some anger towards feminists. I get it, so do I.
Both men and women have benefits to their gender. Both men and women have setbacks due to their gender.

I won’t play the “who has it worse game with you” because that’s silly.
Both genders have problems and it sucks that we talk about women’s issues more then men’s.

But don’t blame all women for that, blame feminism.

Males on the Internet do it all the time. If a woman breathes too loud, she's immediately descended on with "but what about male abuse what about male stoicism what about the men WHAT ABOUT MEEEEENNN" as a way of controlling and redirecting the conversation. It's a manipulative thing that I'm trying to bring to light so that others can see, learn, and not fall for it.

No, I won't shut up. You should not have a baby if you're not capable to provide for it yourself. It is incredibly, incredibly selfish.

You dont understand you insecure little fag. Insults are used to hurt your feelings. If it upset you to be called a bunnyfucker than that's the language we would use.
The fact that you keep responding and trying to damage control with your faggy moral justifications shows how butthurt you are you virgin.

You're projecting so hard dude, I just don't find being called a virgin insult. You write like a butthurt 13 year old.

>If I experiencing rape or domestic violence, you'll laugh at me.
>You say that both our struggles should be taken seriously, but when I speak about my problems, women call me a pussy and a sissy and god knows what.
>You say that crying is okey, but when I cry, you don't want to have anything to do with me anymore.
>When you hit me, no one gives a shit
This is all untrue.

>when you get pregnant, I'm the one who has to pay for your paid leave through taxes.
Is it really a question? Pregnancy is debilitating, most women cannot work when they're in their last month. Right after you had a baby they need to be taken care of by their mother, and the mother needs to get back in shape after giving birth.

>You want me to pay for our dates.
Most people in relationship split the bill. My boyfriend pays for all the restaurant dates, but I pay for all the expenses (groceries, etc) and for drinks every time we go out.

>You demand half my net worth, half my income and our kids if we divorce.
Because if we're married it's not *your* net worth, it is ours. Usually what you had before the marriage stays to you and the rest gets split because the idea is that we earned it together through both our sacrifices.
Half of your income... rarely? In many places you pay alimony for a very limited amount of time, or in very few cases. You might pay child support, but you had the kids too.
And the kids usually get shared between the parents.

Mandatory paid pregnancy leave is economic self-mutilation and the good faith put into that policy would immediately be taken advantage of

Caught you. You aren’t level headed at all. You dislike women and were just trying to pull everything out of your ass to further your own shitty women hating agenda.

>I-I'm not mad
>just had to respond to tell you how not upset you made me

Not that guy but there's nothing wrong with what he said

No, I don't hate women, you won't character assassinate me. You're a disgusting individual.

> I want to have the last word because Internet arguments taught me so
> LOL U responded, I'll have the last word by calling you out on calling me out for behaving like a literal manchild

Seriously dude?

Thank you. He’s just another anti-women dickhead.

Prove that you're such a big boy then, dont respond to this post you butthurt virgin

Let's see
>want to have high paying jobs yet only want boyfriends who earn just as much if not more than them
>last girlfriend told me she didn't want to fuck anyone because she's scared of pregnancy and then she fucks the next guy she dumps me for, who is also rich
>brag to their friends when rejecting a guy instead of keeping it on the down low out of respect

You talk about things you don’t know shit about.
You are just using all of your “men are the victims” crap in order to cover up your hatred for women.

You’re not asking for advice, fuck off.

I don't have time to rebut. I'll be back. Thanks for being an adult about it.

Even if I was, you’d still tell me to fuck off because you’re an angry little faggot retard boy

Mods, this stupid shit has gone on long enough

Do you hate women?

You sound angry at modern feminism more than anything. Feminism should truly aim for equality, but like with a lot of SJW causes nowadays they want women/lgbt/ethnic minorities to have MORE rights than the other, rather than equal rights.

Also
>you are
>you
>you
That's like me saying "you are rapists, abusers, murderers etc". Sure, some are, but plenty aren't, and to lump in you and the rest of the men reading this with those men and boys would be unfair.

No but this board is for building people up and bettering themselves, not for attacking people with baseless accusations
Take that shit to >>Jow Forums

This.

When we raise our concerns, women tell us to shut up or that we’re doing so to somehow attack women. It isn’t just.

On your own moral compass, hoe can you not see that?

No one is telling you to shut up, the only thing I've personally said is that some of the points the guy brought up are untrue.

I've been here for 12 years (god help me) and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I find it just as annoying when people don't remain anonymous (unless there's a good reason to). Of course, you wouldn't know that unless I revealed it about myself and would automatically assume I'm just another guy.

Anyway, it's clearly more than just dislike of women in their "safe space" - the malice from some posters is undeniable. It seems to have gotten worse over the last couple of years.

The way he wrote it was accusing ALL women of being a certain way, which is ridiculous.

You have the IQ to understand that he isn’t accusing all women of being like this, you’re just scared of him being right. What if he is right? I’m currently studying with women who wouldn’t have made if if they had a penis (engineering), due to different admission requirements.

women are more emotional
if you think of them like of robots, of course you will think they are somehow broken or unreasonable
They act reasonable in their own context and view on the world.
Watching football is not reasonable duh, you could be much more productive when you would not watch football.
Women just value different things than men, that's all.

You do realize that I agreed with 80% of the things he said? Right? So I’m not sure why you’re treating me like I’m a close minded feminist who doesn’t realize men also have issues.

God made men, god made women.
So they are at the core perfect.
Of course imperfection exists today, but those are in men and women.
Women are not the "broken" gender, they are different.
They are nor worse, nor better than men. Their purpose is just different.

Is it clearly stated on the admission criteria that different grades are expected for each? What country do you live in? I don't think that happens here

>They act reasonable in their own context and view on the world
I agree with this

I’m not treating you like anything.

Yes, and Norway (NTNU), the biggest and most prestigious STEM university here.

>Women are not the "broken" gender, they are different.
>They are nor worse, nor better than men. >Their purpose is just different.
I also agree with this. I'm a INTJ personailty type so my value system is a lot different than the common personality types women possess. I didn't mean being a hypocrite is an end-all irreconcilable offense, it's just a trait that many of them share due to a higher tolerance of cognitive dissonance

Most men who hate women had negative experiences with them or aren’t seen as desireable by women.

Or they are douchebag chads that only see them as cum dumps

Wew yeah that is pretty shit. Congrats on the good uni though.

I do see the thought process behind it - they're aren't many women in STEM so presumably they're trying to make it more accessible. I disagree with it though - it should always be the most talented people getting into the best jobs and unis, and the less talented can fill the lower rungs.

Is Norway quite SJW-y in general?

This is said over and over, but nobody ever mentions what type of man "likes" women

i look like this guy, end me.

>however, women are being quoted into board rooms, executive positions, entry level jobs, having lower requirements for being accepted into certain programs in university.
You're going to need to source that, because I've seen more cases of women needing to be twice as accomplished as men in fields like science. (nature.com/articles/387341a0)
>You say that my life and your life is worth equally much, however, my court sentence will be three times harsher than yours. When there is an emergency, you get to evacuate before me.
I can't argue with that because that's shitty, and I want true equality. The court statistic is slightly wrong, it's a 60% greater length of time, but still shitty and I agree with you. (papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002) IMO it should be families first in emergencies.
>If I experiencing rape or domestic violence, you'll laugh at me.
I volunteer at my universities sexual assault/violence groups and we always set up messages around campus urging guys to come forward too, because it happens to men as well. No sexual assault is okay or "funny".
>when you get pregnant, I'm the one who has to pay for your paid leave through taxes.
I also pay for my own paid leave through taxes, and so does my theoretical husband who also gets a share in the pool of time we can take leave off and is legally obligated to take at least 60 days. This seems like an american thing. Maybe get your lawmakers to include PARENTAL leave (a la the nordic countries) rather than just maternal leave.
>You want me to pay for our dates.
My boyfriend and I split the cost of dates, when we do go out.
>You want me to buy you a really expensive ring.
I feel guilty about this one because it would mean a lot to me, but it doesn't have to be expensive or big diamonds or whatever.

sounds reasonable

I think it has to do with that it is kind of a man's world
The moment a woman tries to be a woman and reasonable, there is one stupid man who says, lol, you dumb, you woman
Then the woman realizes, being a woman and think like a woman is not wanted, and on the outside they behave how men expect reasonable people to behave
but in a woman's heart, she is still a woman and feels like a woman, but on the outside she has to be someone else, or otherwise, this guy comes along again and says, "lol, you dumb, you woman, lol"

Men don't have this as much. They can feel inside, like outside as a man, and will have no problem with this, and no one else has.
So in a sense, with the rise of "ultra feminism", some, weaker men can experience this now too.
On the outside, they are whiteknighting, defending "ultra feminism" and hate everything that has just only a tint of masculinity.

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>I'm a INTJ personailty type
Holy shit jump off a bridge right now.

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>Sexism and gender roles hurt everybody

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

That's a stereotype. You're thinking about turbulent INTJs. You can be a well adjusted compassionate person of my type, it just takes some work to get there and learn to empathize, to step in others shoes.

these two posts

Actually I love the ENFP women thing, that's pretty funny

>Laughing at the sight of misfortune
Not the guy you replied to, but how does that make you better?

>implying women didn't grew up to feel even more entitled than they naturally were and that they deserve a rich fit 10/10 with a 7 inch cock and a 140 IQ despite being mediocre 4/10s that don't do anything to better themselves and are content on their mediocrity as long as the world keeps on pandering to them and that even know they are pretty much impervious to genuine criticism and the soul-crushing responsibilities that are imposed on men
If anything men growing up disconnected and resentful of women/society is more of a symptom of women ruining everything than the actual cause.

Because they wont touch my peepee when i want them to and they keep expecting to not be treated like shit just for existing so ill whine about all the negative things i have to deal with AS A DIRECT RESULT of centuries of oppressing and subjucating women.

Well answer me this femanons of Jow Forums My seemingly sweet, smart, private university attending gf of two years just started fucking and left me for a biker guy. I mean a dirty, greasy, hell raising, drug selling, Harley riding biker with hair to his ass. I was stunned and begged for her to tell me what happened. She met him in a liquor store parking lot when she and her roommate went to buy booze for a party and she impulsively asked him to take her for a ride on his bike. How the fuck do you keep that from happening?

>7 inch cock
>entitled
Lol dicklet

You can't. Sometimes things like that will happen.
Date people who are extremely into you.

You're kidding right? We were together two years. She's never, ever mentioned or acted like guys like that were on her radar. The fucked up thing, when I asked her roommate about it she said it happened exactly that way and went on to say the guy was amused more than anything but my ex gf insisted. As she told me about this guy the roommate seemed envious of my ex and was kinda gushing about him.

You have to admit that having a collar w/ leach around your neck is hot, though. I'm not saying it is right, but it's hot you know. Pulling your long hair, pinching your nipples, kissing your red cheeks.

And I spelled leash wrong for some reason. This is how hot it is.

Yeah, and she still wasn't really into you if she left you for someone the first chance she got. You probably were an okay enough, safe bet while he's hot and fun.

If I'm a virgin, why should the woman not be one?
If one is a man whore, of course he should have no entitlement to a virgin girlfriend.

So hot and fun trumps everything else?

Yeah, usually people want to date someone who turns them on and who is fun to be with.
Especially when they're young.

You know whats not hot? A guy that has to try this hard.

>How the fuck do you keep that from happening?
Bring value to the relationship loser

Why do so many people correlate nihilism with Nietzsche when he was extremely critical of that philosophy?

Try hard to do what? I find effort sexy. Why women at gym are extra sexy.

They stopped reading before they got to the ubermensch stuff

In your case it’s different but you need to realize women who are virgins are hard to come by, especially attractive ones.

Because a virgin woman is attractive for many, a virgin man is not.

The guy is a fucking hardcore biker. I on the otherhand in university and doing well, work a little bit part time and study like most serious minded young people do trying to prepare for the future. I never mistreated my gf, got along with her parents and friends and no apparent problems in the bedroom. I'm not the only person shocked by all this but I see what you two imply. No way it could be a womans fault, it must be the guy.

isn't it possible that she was a shitty person who didn't value you much?

She saw the rest of her life before her, and it was quiet evenings reading a book in bed
People will go to extreme lengths, even fucking up any and all progress they have made to escape a boring future
Buy more flowers next time

>this shit is 100% me and I'm female

FUCK I FUCKED UP

true, a virgin man doesn't get bonus points for being a virgin, but it's also not hurting him
the problem are the attributes associated with male virgins
But you can not have those, or get rid of those, and still be a virgin
then being a virgin is not a negative

Chad Virgin > Chad Non-Virgin
Because he can tame himself and make good decisions

Can't you understand that a lot of people in their late teens/early 20s don't want that?

What you're offering her is a middle class life in the suburbs in 5 years and a boring normal college life now, what he's offering her is fun now. She probably can have the middle class life in 5 years with someone else and enjoy the fun.

She was crappy. It wasn’t because she was a woman it was because she obviously didn’t love you nor care enough to not hurt you like that.

I would never do what she did. Not all women.

That's not true.

Chad non-virgin > Chad virgin for nearly all girls. Men are hotter if they're a little experienced, if they know what they're doing in bed.

I don’t hate women, I hate myself. I hate myself for not being born on par with sexually adequate men.

I get that it boring and hard and I want to run off sometimes too but have some self restraint but its not like we didn't party some and travel together when our budget and time allowed.

yeah but how can a guy run up on a girl in a liquor store parking lot and without paying her start fucking

Have you actually done anything to improve yourself? You should hate yourself for not being a Chad or Tyrone, btw.