What traits do you have to have in order to be considered an a pretty girl...

What traits do you have to have in order to be considered an a pretty girl? I don't have a great face or tits or ass or a nipped in waist or long legs so...I'm wondering if there's anything else that I can have in order to be considered attractive?

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Well, what do you have?

You can of course work out and get a better body. Sure, it may not be exactly like others. You can get a better ass by squatting more.

You also listed all physical stuff, there's also personality traits. After all, most guys don't want some lying bitch as a gf.

I've tried lifting weights for improvements to my ass, but because of the shape of my pelvis (square instead of round) I can never have a round ass or hips without surgery

Can't really think of anything that I have

Having 21 bmi
Shaving your legs
Dressing like a girl, not a man
Smiling
Subtle makeup
Cheerful attitude
Knowing how to compliment men
Knowing how to boost fragile mens ego
Letting men do stuff for you
Smiling
Sucking dick like your life is depending on it
Knowing how to cook
Smiling
Going to gym and being that cardio bunny in leggings which gives everybody around boner
Not swearing
Dressing "dangerously"
Innitiating flirting on your own or skipping the middle man and stealing virginities of shy boys yourself
Having long hair

If you are in school, you hunt nerds by: hi user, can you help me with a homework after school?

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this

I'm not talking about psychological stuff here

Sure I can be thin, but my legs are still short and stumpy and I don't have an hourglass figure

I have never met a woman or girl in my life who wasnt insecure about her own body.
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Focus on things you can actually fix and dont give a shit about what is considered as conventional attractive. It isnt worth it. Or post pic if you want to hear: please marry me (You)s.

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I'm sure you can have a better body if you lift and squat, even if your pelvis is a different shape.

I'm also sure you got other things and of course you got your personality.

Well, in my frat we came to the conclusion that the ideal woman should have a pleasing face, big perky breasts (like a good handful), nice squat bubble butt, smooth legs, soft skin and thin. Very important that she is thin. Her breath should be neutral, good oral hygiene in general. Beautiful long hair. She can have a couple of scars because she is still a human. A woman who knows how to sing and dance is incredibly hot, very attractive trait.

Those were the main take aways.

And everything on that list is fixable. Like your face will most certainly look a lot better if you lean out to a decent and healthy bf%.

>Knowing how to compliment men
Actually, not OP but how do I complement my bf? I feel like the constant "hey there handsome" kinda get drowned in their frequent use.

>And everything on that list is fixable
>>big, perky breasts
Do you consider surgery as a fix that most women should strive for?

I mean saying he is handsome a lot doesn't necessarily get old. Or at least , it wouldn't for me.

Just be more specific, comment on other things.

Men dont want compliments, they want physical affection and desire from their woman.

Idk man, do what makes you happy. Do you want a guy who is with you for your breasts? Or do you want a man who is with you for the whole package?

Don't compliment him only on physical appearance.
Compliment him on his grades, his job accomplishment ( any accomplishments), make him feel proud of himself and wanting to impress you.

Breasts.

Gross. You have to be 18+ to use this site, little boy.

You have to be born pretty to be pretty.

This

fucking kek

friendly eyes and a cute smile are the things that i fall for. feminine hair style too

Yes

London?

Nope, Australia. Good luck though

A good haircut and hair care routine does wonders for both sexes.

Depends on the guy really some prefer ass over breasts and vice versa. Some would want shorter over taller girls and vice versa. Some are picky or have a preference on traits like eye color, hair color and style, eye shape, face, etc. You probably won't please every single guy whatever you look like.

In my case, I don't really care too much for body shape unless the difference compared to my ideal gf is extreme. Say for example she's about 20 pounds overweight comapred to being 200. Even then, I would probably consider dating someone like that but they would have to improve themselves and be serious about it. You like what you like, there's no getting around that.

Sounds like a virgins wishlist starter pack

>it is all about your personality sis

>but because of the shape of my pelvis (square instead of round) I can never have a round ass or hips without surgery
That's the most retarded thing i ever read here

You're just lazy, sry

Either or both can make anybody look better. But unironically, so can a great personality. I've had crushes on people I wouldn't have found attractive from a photo, but did after getting to know them in person. Not trying to meme you, just keep it in mind.

There are people who prefers ass over breasts?

You are never going to be considered pretty by 100% of your target audience, whether it's in real life or on 4chinz, so work on improving yourself physically and mentally the point where you can feel good in your own skin.

Start with not obsessing over it because many guys find that a turnoff.

Hi OP
I wish we had more time to talk than just this Jow Forums thread, and I hope you're still reading.
I hope you aren't trying to hunt the popular perception of beauty, because you'll never get there. The further you go along with all modern trends and demands of what a woman should look like, the more and more pushed away from reality and yourself you are. You need to take stock and inventory of what you currently have to work with, and learn to exude confidence about it. Your body is art, love it.
Fuck other people. As a girl, you'll never be at want for a partner if you look. You dominate every social field you're in.
Confidence is the only thing that matters.

>As a girl, you'll never be at want for a partner if you look. You dominate every social field you're in.

OP here, I've looked and found no one except for guys who want to hook up. I'm 25 and have never had a boyfriend.

My wife was the sort of the same way. She was raised in a strict household and wasn't allowed to socialize after school.
She spent the first 18 years of her life without any interaction outside of her family. She became overweight, she's got health issues, and emotional baggage we're still unpacking together because of it all.
We met after she graduated through a penpal website. She happened to live 4 hours away, but for the first 4 years I knew her I never met her. When we were both 18 I drove to meet her, and we've been together ever since.
I'm sorry men seem to only want one thing. How do you meet guys? Do you initiate contact?

Lazy? I lift weights and do glute exercises, but like I said it's never going to magically change the shape of my pelvic area, it has only made my butt more plump but that's it

We're not similar as I socialise regularly.

I don't know, over the years I've approached guys but I've always been rejected even though my standards are super low

I've kind of given up now.

just post a fucking pic of yourself for more realistic and specific advice, but honestly no one wants to get w a hot girl if shes a bitch. you cant change your body but you can change your personality and thats what sticks wth you, we all get saggy and old anyway. or just post a fucking pic

This.

> stealing virginities of shy boys.
They never caught the 16yo me!
HeHeHe.. eehh..

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Pretty girl, pretty face.

Pretty scowl, pretty neutral grin, have half the mind to hide it when its not, and make sure to always allow in a little bit of sunlight to let the day do some of the work for you.

Otherwise I think you mean be attractive and to that extent youve got to extend a bit of prejudice to your prey bc then you are seeking and nothing is more attractive to a man than a woman that is trying to be with them. It is like super hot and why the "ugly" girls get the chads and model type guys more than pretty girls do. They just "put out" that vibe.

Uffda, I understand vaguely where you are coming from. A coworker who I am close to has a similar problem. She's a great gal, but she is built like a bouncer and has a face that makes makes most drag queens look more like natural born women. So far the things that have helped her the most were toning it down on wearing butch clothing, dying her hair and styling it, light makeup (the one time she went heavy on it was a disaster), but she still gets more comments about how her muscles are real than on how attractive she is. So, the best I've got is to try and smooth down some of your rougher edges and be ready to play on hard mode. Oh, and as always, have realistic expectations.

>smaller face to skull ratio
>large eye sockets
>long neck
>full lips
>soft skin
>prominent breasts
>wide hipbones
>prominent butt and bicep muscles

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And to reiterate, theres this girl in my history class. Way too young, im 30, and shes like 19 and she knows it doesnt work out and that shit gets hard and knows being in that class is like one of my most favorite times of the day but she really seems to like me, im no chad but i have an air of confidence to me most people i meet cant seem to look past even if im bummy, and she will literally put out that vibe to me all day, every day and just kind of say things out loud too like "i wont tell", "no one will find out", "every day" and Im just like...

...8========D
but as pretty as she is I know I cant do it, like the whole package, because thats what she means and even through all that its like...that is a really good opportunity to turn my life around. And it is. But shes young and although I know I can ascertain that she never has to or ever wants to screw that up, the outcomes dont justify the course Ive taken on prior or upto being there that way. And its fucking tough. I otherwise have fewer prospects and, supposedly, have a litter to pick from, no homo, but its like shes so pretty to me...but...is she really or is that whole air of sentiment so attractive to me. I cant tell. And every day or so I convince myself how much more pretty this is or isnt and how much prettier that is and how that cant be right cause look at her. I am an excellent iudge of character, btw.

To continue, you have a stink face but put out that you want a relationship. You can put out sex and make out like you just had your fill of dick and cant get away with more to get out a relationship and not put out like a slut. Just do it in private and no one will be able to tell. Otherwise let out the vibe and youll be pretty to him immediately or later. Just dont be a pin up doll. Make him want to look deeper and then eventually find that hes found you. It sounds dirty but i think you get it. Sleep with something over your eyes to make sure you can regain your color.

gee why dont you just post a pic of yourself instead of a fucking stock image im tryna help u b but looks arent all and tthats what you should focus on

if any girl is getting asshurt girl reading this, please keep in mind you could easily make a similar list for men. thx

Wear a dress. Even an ugly girl looks good in a dress.

Guys omg I'm attractive to the rando :DDDD

>Sucking dick like your life is depending on it

I miss sucking good dick. It's been far too fucking long since I've gotten some.

I've met a few guys who actually aren't into blowies at all. Any of those on here?

And ladies, thoughts on oral? Am I alone in my craving to suck?

You can't cum inside a breasts

BITCH IM FINNA FUCKIN GET YOU

I really don't like getting blown. I'm curious as to how common it is. Whenever guy friends have brought it up and I've expressed my dislike, the only responses I've received have been mockery or silence. I think some of those silent dudes are with me, but I'm never sure.

I can think of like two or three guys off the top of my head who have expressed it. Is it that you'd rather fuck a hole and be able to move your hips yourself? Have you had a bunch of bad blowjobs? There's also like the "if I wanted a handjob, I'd do it myself" kind of argument. Is it similar to that..?

Dude, idk. I just really want a cock in my throat. I've been pretending to be a lesbian for far too long, and I want to play with someone.

A combination of bad blowjobs and compassion on my end. Basically getting blown for me entails getting half of my dick wet, some really awkward gagging, which seems unpleasant and has led to mishaps, and watching someone tear up as they try to please me, which they are failing at, and so then I feel terrible because no one likes watching someone they care for fail, while hurting themselves, especially while trying to please you.

Why pretend to be a lesbian?

>compassion
The way you described that empathy was actually very very sweet...
>bad blowjobs
Sorry to hear. :/ I guess I'm still wondering if the sensation was what turns you off about it..? Or just the other things you listed.
>getting half of my dick wet
Damn, how big are you..? Or maybe she just stinks at using her mouth.
>gagging has led to mishaps
Does that mean puke? I think that means puke. Oh dear god, I am so sorry for everyone that was involved in that.
>Why pretend to be a lesbian?
Actually a very long story. Sure you're interested..?

In America you need one trait to hit top 60%
>Don't be fat
If you dress well, take care of yourself, and are fun/interesting you will be top 70% if not turbo ugly

Ha ha, yeah, I'm too nice for my own good at times, but I run with it, it isn't like changing my behavior is going to make me less sympathetic to people, it just means I'm a dick too.

>I guess I'm still wondering if the sensation was what turns you off about it..?
The sensation isn't terrible, it certainly isn't the best, but it isn't unpleasant. It's mostly the other things I listed.
>Damn, how big are you..? Or maybe she just stinks at using her mouth.
A little shy of 7.5" and girthy. Basically big enough to not worry and get compliments, but nothing to write home about. The problem most likely lies somewhere between size on my end and lack of skill (is that the right term?) on theirs.
>Does that mean puke?
That does, amongst accidental teeth, jaw spasms, and a handful of other problems.
>Actually a very long story. Sure you're interested..?
I'm posting on my favorite Polish doll making site while I multitask, I am not hurting for the time.

>I'm too nice for my own good at times
Too nice to get a blowjob would definitely do the trick lol
>The sensation isn't terrible
Again, I wonder if it's the lady you were with. (Bro, I'm just trying to deny so hard that you shattered my belief in oral XD)
>A little shy of 7.5" and girthy
*jokingly asks for sauce but would totally accept if you oblidged*
>Nothing to write home about
*writes home anyway*
"Dear Aunt Mary,
Today I sucked this big phat dick. It was really great."
>The problem is size...
With 6"+, a girlfriend that doesn't cam for a living, and modest girthiness about you? Hell yeah. Personally, I'm not too into sizes or big cocks or anything (my type is generally a smooth-looking head and some thickness; no smegma/STDs is always a plus) but you made me salivate with that one so gg, bro.
>... and lack of skill (is that the right term?)
I think skill is an okay word for it, haha. Or maybe effort? ("Sucking life your life depends on it") Idk. Some of the culpability would fall back on her for sure though. I'm level 81 in Suckin' Dat Diccque though, so I don't think it would be a problem for us, Totally-Random-user-Friendo.
>That does (mean puke)...
AAAAAAAAAAA--
>... amongst accidental teeth...
[insert the SpongeBob meme where he's scraping his teeth on the chocolate bar]
>... jaw spasms...
--AAAAAAAAAAA--
>... and a handful of other problems.
--AAAAAAAAAAAHH!
>I'm posting on my favorite Polish doll making site while I multitask, I am not hurting for the time.
1) Are you Polish?
2) Are you gay?
3) What are you multitasking with?
4) I probably need to start a new post to explain. I'm running out of room, heh.
5) Also, what is a Polish doll making site?

Fucking poofter.

Blowjobs are nice when they involve her just kind of being stuck down there and you not realizing that she really wanted to do it. Ive had maybe one or two of those, otherwise it was a lot of tugging and dry hokey shit that shouldve felt better but im empathetic to like some severe degree that I just zone out being with that person rather than enjoying what could be a sense of euphoria over the tugs in my deepest nerves. Im not very romantic. Affectionate to the brim of desire but only when its a two party favor. Otherwise i think i should feel like a player or a pimp and in that case I just dont feel that way.

I'm bisexual, but kind of jumped into this monogamous relationship with a girl around a year and a half back. Our friends were kind of pushing me into it, and she was into me, so I went with it. She has always kind of been an asshole to me. When we're together, she doesn't want to touch me or talk to me at all, and it made me feel super unwanted, but she said I couldn't leave her because I'm all she has. She's suicidal. I kept feeling more and more unwanted and undesirable and lonely and used, and it felt like shit. Ended up cheating on her because she wasn't fulfilling my needs, and I couldn't talk to her. I'm an ass, I know. I know I shouldn't have cheated. Just felt so fucking trapped. I blew this guy, and I always knew I had an oral kink, but it had been so so long, and now I really can't get it out of my mind. I want to suck someone off again. Porn isn't the same. Like, watching blowjobs and crap doesn't help. It's the actual /feel/ of it I miss. The physical, carnal intimacy. The way it feels to lick my lips against his skin, the pulse of him as he throws in the palm of my hand, the silkiness of his head pressed up against the back of my throat...

I fucking ache for that shit.

>Only when its a two party favor. Otherwise i think i should feel like a player
So is it that you don't want to be serviced..? I think I kind of touched on that earlier.

Talk to me

>Again, I wonder if it's the lady you were with.
Ladies, it isn't a tried it once thing, it is consistent.
>jokingly asks for sauce but would totally accept if you oblidged
Sauce provided, not the most recent, but the only thing that has changed is me growing a bit of bush.
>1) Are you Polish?
No, I'm 'Murican.
>2) Are you gay?
As sappy as it is, I believe in love. If I fall in love with a man, then I guess I am, but as stands no.
>3) What are you multitasking with?
The entire laundry process, some cleaning, planning out recipes, some light grooming, and posting here. I'll switch activities in a bit.
>5) Also, what is a Polish doll making site?
One of my many niche interests.

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I always thought of it as degrading and thought women generally disliked it and only did it as a favour, so I didn't like the idea.
However my gf is really into it, which made me change my mind. I can't cum from it yet, but we are working on it.

hey

Ouch, shitty situation, but yeah, you fucked up too. If you haven't ended it, you should, sorry to say that. I'm sure with a bit of time and effort, you can find someone who will let you give them head though, so there is always the bright side! I imagine that is the downside to being bi though, the grass is always greener and what not. I'm also amazed that you would put up with someone being that frigid and distant, I'd take that so personally and bail so quickly.

Hey there, newfriend. It's great to post on Jow Forums, but you may want to lurk a little more to get used to board culture. Typing like you're from Facebook may attract undesired attention. Have a nice day.

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Be a lady

1. A woman wants a career. A lady wants to be a housewife and stay at home mom.

2. A woman can party with guys like one of the boys. A lady doesn't do so, she sees her own friends.

3. A woman sees a relationship as two equal people doing stuff together. A lady sees a relationship as two fundamentally different people complimenting each other.

4. A woman who is angry will hit a man or destroy his stuff. A lady who is angry will let her man know through non violent and non verbal means.

5. A woman dresses like a man or like a hot slut. A lady dresses cute and/or pretty.

6. A woman didn't take the time to learn basic culinary skills because it was beneath her. A lady enjoys cooking and baking.

>Ladies (plural)
Meh, kind of implied. Unless it was all the same chick who blew, belched, bit, and barfed on you. Still damn surprised no one has been able to please you with it. *totally taking this as a challenge*
>Sauce provided
*inhales deeply* Oh sweet jeesus, please let me try to take you... like holy fuck, you look good.
>1) I'm 'Murican.
Wow, same. We have so much in common. You should let me wank some sauce out of that sauce.
>2) As sappy as it is, I believe in love. If I fall in love with a man, then I guess I am, but as stands no.
That was a very gay answer to a question that was really just meant to poke fun at the dolls comment, lol.
>3) Laundry process, cleaning, recipes, grooming, le Jow Forums
I've always found laundry super relaxing, desu. Random fact. Never hated it. What are the recipes for? And is this the type of grooming I'd be interested in assisting you with..? Am I asking enough questions to make you feel uncomfortably interrogated yet? What's your favorite vegetable? How do you feel about midget porn?
>I'll switch activities in a bit.
Late night-skydiving?
>5) Polish doll making
Still confused as to (and interested in) what exactly this is. :P

you've got some good points but others are a bit sexist

*tackleglomps u* OwO

Honest to god, I'm surprised I put up with it for as long as I did, too. Still trying to deal with the aftermath of taking it personally. Thanks though.

Wherefore the tackleglomp..? *still gladly receives*

>Polish doll making
Okay, so I stopped being a lazy ass and Goggled it, and I actually do know what that is. Sounds like something that would totally stroke someone's OCD in all the right ways and give 'em the sense of control, comfort, and simple superficiality they were missing in their childhood. Or they just like dolls, idk.

I am so fucking tired. Also, got politely called a newfag.

*Googled

Wow, I'm loopy.

I would totally goggle a doll. Why not? Could be a whole new world out there.

*spam spam spam*

Awww, thanks! If you're ever in the Salt Lake Valley, take me out to lunch first and we'll see how it goes.
>I've always found laundry super relaxing, desu. Random fact. Never hated it. What are the recipes for? And is this the type of grooming I'd be interested in assisting you with..? Am I asking enough questions to make you feel uncomfortably interrogated yet? What's your favorite vegetable? How do you feel about midget porn?
I like how I can fit the various stages of laundry in between other activities, and I am kind of a neat freak, so there is that. The recipes are for fun, I like cooking and food in general. The grooming is trimming up facial hair, filing, rounding, and blunting my nails, removing tartar build up, and general upkeep, so if that's your thing, you may be interested. I'm not uncomfortable yet, I work with a lot of chatty people. My favorite vegetable is cucumber or squash depending on my mood. I don't think I could keep a straight face or stop laughing during midget porn. Also, yes, late night skydiving for my secret entrance to the jungles by the volcano lair. Someone has to steal those blueprints or else the free world is at stake.

So, what brings you to these parts? Outside of your love of dick sucking and escape from a faux lesbian relationship?

I think that its more about getting serviced for sure but to a salient degree and not like me getting a treat. She should be considering it the prospect that i consider when i want to eat her butt or like the idea that i go through a lot of shit in dealing with women, because i have a big duty to my people in my familys culture, but moreso that it should be a responsibility to myself because "goddamn this sensation, this emotion, tbis desire, this has love!... fueling it and man oh man do i want to make sure we enjoy every last drop". Just the two of us, of course. Anyone showing off anything or doing something to share it at this point would essentially be burning it too hot or fueling another kind of desire. It would be obsolete to consider it a gesture and it shouldnt be one, it would be like work and the pay should be salvageable or subsidiary almost. Its hard to describe without making sure the jew gets his fare of the interest because the jew serviced intimacy a dish side serving of romance and theres literally nothing left on the plate after the pallate has been cleansed. Like I have yet to get a blowjob from someone who loves me or someone that I love. Ive had maybe ten and had sex well over 100 hundred times I believe. Maybe less, though.

What about? I made an account on okcupid earlier today to talk to people. What did you do? I have been needing some kind of affection and the semester is almost over.

Just making fun of you for writing like you're on some chatroom for 14 year olds.

Okay, friend, I was being nice before, but you either need to return to whatever 2007 hellhole you escaped from or lurk until you have all the sappiness forcibly beaten out of you.

Personality, and good hygiene. Its untold but the prettiest girls are the ones that keep it simple.
If you take inspiration from trash ladies like Kardashians, some victoria secret model, or some dumb singer, you are doing it wrong, they offer nothing in anybody's life.
As long as you keep dating yourself, someone will notice,is kinda gay what im about to say , but if you keep your attitude positive it will work out. You dont actually see it but theres always somebody around you that would go "yeah, i would date her, shes pretty"

Now I ache too.
If you were in MN we could help each other out

Eh, I kind of like compliments every now and then. Maybe not a felt need, but it feels good and definitely can make you like someone more.

Let me guess your loooow standards are chad - 0,5 points.

On a serious note, women have high standards and often dont realize it. It is their biology after all to find the best man and not the most dicks.

Wish I were, wish we could. Sorry to make you ache lol.

>Take me out to lunch first, and we'll see how it goes.
That sounds like one hell of a maybe. Fuck yes.
>Neat freak
>Dollmaking
Fits into your psychological profile. I dig it. I've got some pretty similar stuff, haha. General like for repetitive motions, mindless monotony. Control. It's comforting.
>I like cooking
Anything come out of the noble pursuit for recipes?
>Grooming and general upkeep, if that's your thing
I mean, yeah lol. If you're willing to take my help on it. It feels similar to the doll thing, and I'd be interested in doing upon you.
>I'm not uncomfortable yet
Oh, we'll get there. Don't you worry.
>I work with a lot of chatty people
What do you do? :)
>Couldnt stop laughing during midget porn
Little people need love too.
>The cute joke about saving the free world
Got the blueprints, sir?

I'm mostly here because of the dick sucking and being a fagfag. Additionally, people talk on here, and I was bored. I mean, I met you didn't I? And you're quite charming, so mission accomplished.

Half the shit on that list is physical. e.g., smiling, sucking dick well, having long hair and dressing well

Wtf kind of answer do you want? You seem to just hate yourself and dislike changing that which is ugly on everyone.

dont be fat and your good (also dont be old)

Yeah I miss it too. I dreamed that my coworker asked me to suck his, but real life is nowhere close, fuck this gay earth

21 is too much
try 19

Half of this list is complete garbage

>That sounds like one hell of a maybe. Fuck yes.
Well, leave a way to get in contact with you and we'll plan something out.
> I've got some pretty similar stuff, haha.
What are your preferred repetitive activities?
>Anything come out of the noble pursuit for recipes?
I was until recently a sous chef, so quite a bit. Plus I always get to eat good if I feel like cooking.
>What do you do?
Now I'm a dishwasher and a student (Yay for career changes!). It isn't glorious, but I get to work with all of the staff to some extent and it allows me to go to school.
>Got the blueprints, sir?
That's a matter of national security.
>I'm mostly here because of the dick sucking and being a fagfag. Additionally, people talk on here, and I was bored. I mean, I met you didn't I? And you're quite charming, so mission accomplished
Awww, thanks again. Glad I could aid you with your pursuit of being entertained!

>frat
>describes ideal women as literal perfect women that has never and
will never exist

Checks out

Amazing hair, slim frame and face, correct posture, lack of bitching, crudeness.

Be like pic related. Im in love with her.

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Creep.

Woaaah, das is kreeps mane

I will break her inside out, she is mine. I like her the more she is afraid of me. I cant get enough if her. I can smell her hair.

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