As a 25 year old virgin, how much would you guys say I'm missing out on with the whole sex/gf thing...

I don't think its a good idea to "love" someone who isn't a blood relative (no im not talking about sex or incest), relationships should be more about inimacy, companionship, sex, maybe after a REALLY long term relationship you can start to love your partner but not in the fireworks romantic chemical kind of way, same as you would love a long term good friend

I don't mean to be a dick but, you probably will. proceed with caution and level headedness. I really doubt most normie couples actually love each other

It is my strong belief that we humans desperately NEED another person, someone who we allow to know us wholly, physically and emotionally.
We need someone who's judgement we respect, to give us the feeling that we're enough. Otherwise your insecurities will never stop rampaging and you'll lose your sanity over the years.

We need someone to save us from ourselves.

I know you're right. That's honestly kind of why I retreat, catching feelings terrifies me.

you can handle it, you just have to get used to dating first. You might catch strong feelings for first one or two girls you particularly like who reciprocate interest and it will probably end quickly and badly. Then after that you should be fine.

It shouldn't. Maybe you will get laughed at but you have to remember that she's putting herself out there too. Whatever the circumstances it's still two separate human lives being jammed together and there's going to be conflict. It's inevitable. However, there's plenty of good there too.

Hang in there, you still haven't bounced back fully. Eventually you'll reach the point where you feel you are your old self again. Took me a year and a few months to fully recover from the breakup of a 4 year relationship. E

Sex is overrated, stop watching porn and start talking to girls

I honestly don't even see what I'd do if a girl actually reciprocated and I liked her, I'd either self-sabotage or not believe it.

Most people aren't as defective as me and can deal with rejection/negative feelings much better. I'm an extremely negative person, I can ruminate over bad things that happened for hours and forget good things in a matter of minutes.

You're first mistake is assuming other people arent as fucked as you. They are. Let me tell you for a fact that people are fucking amazing at bottling up and hiding their issues. You can't really be sure until you know them and they open up to you. I'm also incredibly pessimistic but have learned over the years that you can't go into dating by assuming you're going to get hurt.

You're not, people die happy virgins all the time
The most common realization after having sex must surely be 'wow, that was what all the hype was about?'

Good sex is usually good because the other person has deliberated on that; even hot girls catch shit for 'starfishing,' so you gotta know it's at least partially personal input
More importantly, you'll definitely not get it if you're hungry for it constantly; girls are deathly afraid these days of being seen as fetish picks. Even being a virgin is a fetish pick now, guys will hound a girl just because she's a virgin.

Shitty people will always exist. Even as a non-virgin I have to deal with shitty people, it's never going to change
The trick is not to let them screw over your shots at other opportunities

just get a sex doll bro they feel better then real women because you can enjoy it without a pregnancy scare.

where do I meet girls, user? I go to work then back home and then my days already over after some free time

If you're looking for love, don't go online.
Just go somewhere, like a church, park, beach, anywhere that can be nice you'll be bound to find a girl.
Avoid bars those are for a quick fuck.
On public transportation there's cute girls at times. You just gotta talk.

>gf 1 year no sex

You didn't have a GF. Holy shit, when you'll learn?

Most people are much more "normal" than me. I'm barely function in the feelings part, I'm stable enough to work and have some social relations but when it comes to inner feelings, intimacy and more intense stuff I'm a complete abomination. I can't even tell what I'm feeling half of the time, spend most of the day daydreaming in fantasy world and barely feel "real".

Love: non-existent Sex: meh
Seriously, stay alone before you get stuck into a relationship like I am. Pure torture

I always read that.... avoid bars!?
Where I live (central Europe) most girls want relationships. Sure if you're looking for "a quick fuck", a bar is a good place... But it really depends on what you're looking for and flirting is really accepted in bars. I don't think a church would be a good place.

I know that feel user.

Over and over I've heard people say it's unhealthy to base your personality over what you like. And, I agree for the most part. Eventually it becomes an obsession and nobody wants to hear you talk about your obsession for the tenth time in an hour. I'm not saying you do this, I'm just getting these points out of the way before I make mine.

My point being that, while the above is true, it's also true that what you like *is* a part of you, sort of. What you like reflects who you are in a way. The important thing is your reason for liking it.

If I were you, I'd take intimacy and more intense stuff, and just put that off for now. This might be your mind's way of telling you that you're not ready for that shit yet. After all, you can't really love someone if you can't love yourself, or at least love to hate yourself.

Instead, I'd pick something, anything that makes you feel. And then I'd analyze the shit out of why it makes me feel that way. Don't judge yourself, that comes later. Put it off for as long as you can. It's okay to procrastinate with that sort of thing. That sort of introspection should give you hints as to who you really are on the inside. Then, I'd keep doing that until I had enough to work with, to form a sort of base.

Next, remember that everyone has a different mask they use for different situations. *Everyone.* This doesn't make them fake. Every mask is real.

If you absolutely have to judge yourself, then congratulations, it means you feel a certain way about feeling something. Everyone has things about themselves that they hate, that they wish were different, and that they hope nobody else ever sees. Even loved ones and SOs. And that's okay. You have to decide for yourself if you want to let people in to see that part of you or not.

Now if only I could follow my own advice. Well, one day at a time.

*And you can't love or love hating yourself if you don't know who you really are in the first place.

I only had sex once (Well, 3 times, but within 24 hours with the same person so that doesn't really count), and to be perfectly honest I enjoyed the cuddling and affection more than the sex.

Then again, that might just be me. I've considered myself asexual since before that but figured I might as well try it rather than just writing it off.
Speaking for myself,
Losing my virginity chamged nothing.
Sex feels better than a fleshlight, but only marginally and not enough to justify the effort that goes into one night stands, nor to justify the stress of trying to make sure you're pleasing her too.

If I were to get two texts right now, one offering a night of sex and one asking if I wanted to curl up on a couch and watch movies with a friend, I would pick tje couch every time.

No in a relationship sex is the ultimate connection

Bump

>After all, you can't really love someone if you can't love yourself

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