Well, Jow Forums?

>Average IQ doesn't matter
Opinion disregarded

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tl;dr

Who said anything about nationalism

Your meme is shit, and a really low IQ take. History has been a struggle between races, not classes or intelligence. Intelligence of a race can be changed somewhat through eugenics, and multi-racialism causes alienation and racial tension. You don't consider any of this. You are, as I said, an autistic retard.

>not classes or intelligence
What was the French Revolution
What was the Bolshevik Revolution
What were the medieval peasant revolts

Wrong. Intelligence can kill. There needs be balance, so thus, the stupid people will always retain the sane edge of sufferance, while the super-intelligent may advance schemes that eventually end the world as any sort of meaning adaptation of history.

Maybe recent history, but I would say that the main divide is national and thus racial.

Once you kill everyone with an IQ of 99, IQ will need to be standardised again and you will once more have people with an IQ of 99.
Man it's hilarious how many of you IQ mongoloids don't even know how IQ is calculated or how it is defined. Bunch of LARPERS.

French & Bolshevik were fucking kikes revolutions

The deadliest conflicts in human history have not been between racial groups

If you think that everyone in Europe is the same race then you are a retard. Also, as I said, racial tension is inevitable in mutli-racial areas. If you think that a black person with an IQ of 120 has more in common the a white person with an IQ of 120 than he does with his own race or visa versa then you are retarded, autistic, and naive.

Intelligence is moreso a product of guidance than genetic predisposition. If an already intelligent person who understands what it takes to teach someone critical reasoning ability along with powerful strategies for learning takes in a child from the lowest 'IQ' population who has not yet been educated, that child will be intelligent. It's that simple.

As long as a child doesn't suffer from some kind of biological impairment that affects their brain in such a way that they can't function 'normally' with respect to the average human being, they can become intelligent. Have no doubt about it. It's not some process that's obscure to mankind.

>If you think that a black person with an IQ of 120 has more in common the a white person with an IQ of 120 than he does with his own race or visa versa

I absolutely do. I certainly prefer the company of intelligent blacks and hispanics to low-IQ whites. There's no difference between a 85 IQ black and a 85 IQ white to me. They are both philistines.

Sounds like you're still in the first box

Well then you are a snobbish, autistic, self-unaware retard. Besides, blacks with high IQs typically stick with their own race anyway.

Not in my experience. High IQ-blacks I've known have always grouped themselves with others with similar IQs (typically white)

You're just unrealistic and delusional. I'm not going to speak with you anymore. There are other important things other than IQ, our European countries are better due to European people, not because they have a higher average IQ although that is part of it. Just look at the shit show that is China. The average IQ in china is slightly above average and it is probably a worse place to live in than the lower IQ Brazil, Argentina, or Chile.

honestly what are you even trying to achieve, this is an obscure taiwanese jelqing board, what do you gain

>Reversion to the mean
which wouldn't be a problem in any hypothetical civilization of high IQ individuals because IQ is mostly heritable and isn't an inherent aspect of any race. The fact that blacks have a large number of low IQ individuals keeps averages low due to sexual selection pressures that wouldn't exist in this hypothetical scenario.

Either way the scenario sucks ass. Low IQ people make the entire underclass and while removing them from a society would probably solve crime problems you'd also be removing a huge portion of the workforce that is doing jobs you don't want to like serving McDonalds to your fat ass

you only have iq because of stolen genes
after the world is reset, you may find yourself
back on the level of a cavebeast.

What would you propose, an ethnostate? That's surely more unrealistic and delusional.

You do bring up some good points about the West vs. Asia. I'd offer a couple of possible rebuttals (neither of which, I admit, is supported by any research):

>The average IQ in the West may have been higher when its civilizations were built and developed. IQ tests were only developed and widely implemented after the West was in decline. The improved standards of living and a falling infant mortality rate could have pushed the average IQ lower as the lower rungs of society began to outbreed the upper echelons of society.

>While many Asian countries boast higher average IQs, their populations may be more homogeneous, and thus have a lower percentage of citizens with turly superior intellect

But who will dig ditches and shovel shit?

The bottom one should be "IQ doesn't matter anymore because our technology has developed to the point we can transfer our genetic advantages to other races and vise-versa."

The world of tomorrow is a post-racial world because we can make anyone a high functioning individual on a genetic level.

holy shit man, this is what I have been gravitating towards too. How the fuck did you peer into my brain user.

And well even with this, you are still mostly only defending the other whites, no niggers since a vast, VAST majority of them are fucking stupid as balls. Even if there is a smart one between them, his genes will cause him to regress to the mean.

But yea, when you are part of this high IQ thing, you get lonely, finding, and protecting other people who are also high IQ becomes somewhat of a "I dont want to be alone man" kind of thing.

conversely it is also the reason why this board is so popular, since we are being driven purely by IQ here. Its multicultural extremely high IQ crap being done here man.

>And well even with this, you are still mostly only defending the other whites, no niggers since a vast, VAST majority of them are fucking stupid as balls

True, but the rare intelligent black shouldn't be forced to suffer for the failures of his brethren.

Ideally I'd want to live in a society where the IQ issue is in the open, and high IQ blacks accept it without feeling ashamed or obligated to defend less gifted blacks.

I propose repatriating the non-white immigrants that are already in my country, first through deporting all non-whites with criminal records, then telling the rest of the immigrants they have 5-10 years to leave the country and then finally deporting the lot of them.

I do agree with the idea that when times were harder in Europe there was a certain level of natural selection which raised IQ, but even so, without counting non-whites, our crime rates are very low and are standards of living is high in comparison to Asia. I also agree that Asians maybe more homogeneous with regard to intellect, but again, the leaders in either of our countries probably aren't much different with regard to intellect, most are between 110-125. so I think it has much more to do with sensibilities and other differences in personalities and values that result in the drastic difference in living standards.

Also, I have a higher IQ than my uncle, he has an IQ probably in the low 90s, and I have done much better in school than him (I have an A in GCSE mathematics, the subject that correlates the most with intelligence), but I get along with him much better than I would any non-white even in my own classes, I know this is an anecdote, but you have been using mostly anecdotes and hypothesis.

the problem is that by supporting this autistically correct position, you're just back at the first box

you have more in common with low-IQ people who speak your own language and have your same culture than high-IQ people from other countries that don't speak your languages or share your culture.

And the high-IQ people from other cultures don't share your autistic "enlightened" vision of the world, they just see you as the elite of their main competition. Chinese and Jews are the perfect example of this.
They see other high-IQ races as competition for resources they want and seek to destroy them by pushing memes of social cohesion through liberal capitalist, consumerist hedonism.

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You're probably low IQ and autistic.

Hahaha ur rite, what was i thinking haha

i gess ability is innate and wrking to succeed is gei HAHA ecks DEEEE

so basically niggers will always be stupid?

What incentive is their for rich people who own this technology to share it with poor people who may raise their intelligence-gifted progeny with an anti-elite bias?

“The future is already here – it's just not evenly distributed."

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They have the most voting power though. When they want programs they get them. Your aversion to public healthcare will probably mean you won't do it. Other countries will however.

if their environment doesn't require them to be smart then the few that do end up intelligent will be brought down by those that are not.

This is the usual liberal drivel you will hear, but the truth is that unless we let them fail they will not learn the things they need to in order to survive.

If you stop feeding Africa then only the toughest survive. Right now they only survive off the goodwill of the West and reluctant reciprocity of the Chinese. Both are utterly detrimental to their societies because it does not teach them the skills they need to build and maintain civilization and will always be at the mercy of foreign governments. Without a culture of nativism they ultimately will not grow.

The Chinese will, definitely. They already have with those recent twins.

The irony here is that it only works in ethnostates, of which China basically has already. It's a matter of trust based on tribal identity.

>Voting does things

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>I propose repatriating the non-white immigrants that are already in my country, first through deporting all non-whites with criminal records, then telling the rest of the immigrants they have 5-10 years to leave the country and then finally deporting the lot of them.

Doesn't sound feasible to me, unless you're talking about the 'refugees' that arrived within the past couple of years. The situation is different in the US. There's no moral or credible case to be made for deporting all the blacks.

>I know this is an anecdote, but you have been using mostly anecdotes and hypothesis.

True, and fair enough

At the end of the day, I just don't see a white race or white culture that is worth fighting for. Even if all the POC in the US were deported, you'd still be stuck with a plebeian majority who are just interested in consumerism, eating, dopamine-pumping cellphone games, and football. I'm in awe of peak European culture, but since it seems apparent those days are over, it makes more sense to me to strive for something new and better. Given the hopelessness of the white underclass, I'd care more about cultivating a society and culture in which the best are able to fully realize their intellectual and creative potential.

The biggest redpill is not IQ that makes society better, it's morality. And that is only possible through Christ.

he's a leaf, what were you expecting

lol

But yeah, ability is innate. Even if you have an advantage over other people due to working harder rather than raw intellect, that just suggests you're more conscientious. Another innate trait.

Ok, but the new 99IQ people will 1) all be white and 2) be exponentially smarter than the ones on the old scale

You

>take the racial collectivism redpill
>return to individualism
Nice try schlomo

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DA JOOS

shut up you shill, white people are the only humans and we are coming to kill you jewish internet defense force faggots

high iq people are fags too though, they're still susceptible to propaganda, just under the guise of their own "reasoning"

You’re final box has the correct reading of humanity but the improper response

The high, the aristocratic class, must be completely annihilated for their sin of not removing the low.

You have forgotten the 6th panel:

We already do what is written in the 5th panel right fucking now, it's called "Globalism", but the cutoff edge is far higher then you think.
You think that people with an IQ sub 100 should be culled. Haha, you poor nigger, that is because you yourself have an IQ of 110, and now you think you are worth something. The real cutting line is at 140. Everyone bellow does not matter, and social justice and political division are all designed in order to cull them. Creating a subhuman underclass, that poses no threat to us and a world nobility that will rule eternally.

forgot to mention this applies to white people as well. really it's a matter of taking the power away from the fickle uncaring masses who don't know what's best for themselves and giving it to someone who isn't impulsive and short sighted

>last one
>hurr I'm smart me ignore proportions and inclinations

Sage

This is the stage I'm at now. It's been a long journey. 98% of the human race is niggers.

Sounds reasonable

I used to think like you.
I used to mock anti-Semites.
I used to think myself superior and enlightened to them because they were blinded by hate, blinded to objectivity by their biases.

Truth is, I had it backwards. I was so blinded by my hate for the 'bigoted' that I could not bring myself to take an objective look at their claims and arrive at my own conclusion. It really is quite amazing how perfectly the masses are gaslight into believing an inversion of reality while thinking others have it wrong.

>but the cutoff edge is far higher then you think.
>The real cutting line is at 140.

Nope sounds about right to me

t. No evidence to support this at all

Some of the criticisms of Jews/Zionism are accurate. Attributing every disagreement you have with others and misfortune you suffer to a global jewish conspiracy is dumb.

imagine having genetic engineering but still making yourself black lol

You don't understand the Jewish Question if you still buy into the trope of a coordinated global Jewish conspiracy. It's much more nuanced than that

you mean this?

you are just buttman that you have low IQ man

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god I hate this fucking forthcoming "muh based blacks" every aspect of it all. Niggers are garbage, they are animals, they dont need even a single uplift from anything, just as cockroaches and rats dont need it.

>muh individualism is all that matters!
What a retarded belief.

Important differences between races extend far beyond intelligence. Intelligence is simply what most people argue about.

There are other, innate differences that matter more than intelligence. Personality, aggression, creativity, etc. These things are not just a function of IQ.

Then there's beauty. Arguably, the aesthetic quality of a race is very important. Having beauty in one's life is necessary if one wishes to live well. And whites are doubtlessly the most attractive race. Things like this are mocked for being trivial and so are overlooked but they're just as important as intelligence. Surely you can't tell me a world full of soulless, hideous monsters would be preferable to the world we have now if they were highly intelligent...

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also at every level of society, somewhere, some elite or high IQ person goes outside and thinks to himself "god I hate these retards, what kind of stupid shit are they doing today again, god I wish I could have someone to share my interests with and make these people just disapear"

wish...almost...granted...

I'm not approaching the issue of blacks from the same perspective as MAGApedes. They're happy if a black person puts a MAGA hat on.

I'd agree that your assessment of blacks is applicable to the majority of the race, but not all. If it's IQ that is valuable (and this is a common mantra of race-realists), why is it rational to treat a high IQ black any different from a high IQ white person? The imbecility of others of his race shouldn't devalue his intelligence. Most people of all races are imbeciles anyway.

Expose your true flag, faggot.

This. When I say "IQ" what I actually mean is innate traits. You can have average IQ, but still be valuable if you excel in lots of other traits.
IQ is extremely important, but if you don't have the other traits, then you will still be culled. Because it is just "potential", but if you don't live up to it, you are still nothing.

Also, don't think any of those traits aren't innate. Everything is innate, upbringing only ever goes that far, it can ruin someone good, but it can't turn shit into gold.

I agree with you, I'm kinda just using "IQ" as a shorthand for a bundle of qualities. Nobility is what I'm really thinking, but that's too lofty a term for Jow Forums.

Beauty and IQ are correlated, though.

nigger, your cleverness will disapear if you mix with others. Even within your race. Each race, the high IQ is like a testament of all of its best, unique genes working together.

What you espouse is also egalitarianism. I have long ditched it, I dont even comprehend it at this point to be honest. You are working with a problem that has no real necessity to be solved. All problems inside of society can be solved with its own race, with in own help. There is no need for foreign interference. Even with the IQ you are not equal to us.

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It is my flag, since the other flags are faggot and aids like.

>It's okay that some nigger carjacked me and raped my wife because he scored well on an IQ test.

You're a fucking faggot.

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I mean show your geographical flag, you newfag retard.

I'm espousing egalitarianism at all. If anything I'm espousing a more extreme anti-egalitarianism than the white nationalists are.

not espousing*

that is exactly what I mean you fuckface. The fasces lives, and your, and my nation has died.

Variety of beauty and variety of intelligence and variety of personality are what really matter. When we mix everything together, we end up destroying diversity, not promoting it.

Group cohesion is real. Culture can be seen kind of like tonal consistency in a movie, or aesthetic congruity in architecture. A good movie wouldn't alternate between heavy scenes and gross-out stoner comedy. A city with aesthetic congruity wouldn't have big brutalist skyscrapers sandwiched between baroque buildings and modernist architecture.

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you are spouting inclusing race wide, its a leftist thing. I know it well. You are just a leftist man. Give to love to the nog, neither to the brown. No culture, no history, just a savage ape with a few more points. If you truly cared about races you would value the chink much more than the negro, since the chinks have a rich culture and history. One lowly IQ chink > a thousand fucknig high IQ nigs

I totally agree, but this fight was lost decades ago.

Your fight has been lost too but you don't realize it.

Fascists care about their people, their history and their identity, and they care about the white race. show your actual flag and quit being a faggot.

>you nonce
Wow, first time in the last probably 5+ years that I've seen an englishman use that word in the right way (as opposed to having it mean "pedo", which it simply doesn't).

Thank you Nigel, very cool.

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fascists also care about power...great individual quality...which you lack...you cant even make me show my flag lol faget

You had me until that last square. Nice try Mr. Stein

Okay, you yellow skinned, evil, smelling yid.

ethnostate for inbreeding
genestate for futurism
i agree with this post

Anyone can increase their natural IQ BY 20 points on average. Education is how this is accomplished.

you have no arguments

polymatharchives.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html

ideapod.com/science-explains-highly-intelligent-people-prefer-alone/

On the plus side, this board has helped me quite a lot on how to cheat normal IQ people, or at least how to better co-habitate with them. There is one obviously huge advantage to being clever, that is if you find someone else who is clever, and who has mastered some part of reality. He can teach you similar ways, with books, blog posts, or even just shitposts here. I guess you would know if you were high IQ as well lol

Not everyone can increase their IQ by 20 points. And it wouldn't matter if a 70 IQ gas-snuffing abbo could increase its IQ to 90 anyway.

Capacity is what matters. The capacity of some races to do some things just doesn't exist. A white man will never beat Usain Bolt in the 100 meter dash.

All those good runners come from one tribe

You can't change your IQ, retard.

You are the dunning kruger effect incarnate.