So You Got Some Money

Imagine you’re stupid filthy rich. Bookoo dollars my friend.
And the people you share a country with decide to take an exuberant amount of the money you make. Let’s say somewhere around 50%
Half of all the money you make.
Now, what is actually stopping you from just taking your fortune elsewhere?
Patriotism? Laziness?

Discuss..

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and do everything you can legally to report the smallest amount of income each year
this is the most basic argument ever. yeah, taxes are a pain in the ass.

I make around $700k. It's not enough to put my money off shore in the caymans, and my business is here, so I would be fucked.

>bookoo

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>Bookoo
lol brainlet

If my predictions are right, we'll all be multimillionaires within 2 years

because living in the country with half your wealth is better than living in the alternative with all your wealth.

Where is this billionaire utopia where you can live the same lifestyle and keep all your money? It doesn't exist. All the "good" places to live tax the rich, as they should.

>spelling beaucoup as bookoo

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>Bookoo
Jesus...really...."bookoo" Fucking kids can't even French.

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oh god. you are to woke for me :DDDDDDD

Well originally people were tied to their countries very deeply and would not think of going elsewhere. Today the rich live as materialists and cosmopolitans. To them New York is no different than London, Beijing, Melbourne, Johannesburg, and so forth. They are truly rootless with no morals.

i would invest all my money in real estate and rent it out for cheapest possible price while breaking even in the long run
of course i'd also buy my own property and live a minimalistic lifestyle so that the medium amount of income generated from being a landlord would be enough to pay for insurance, electricity, water, food and other basic necessities like clothing

Taxes keep your country relevant. If the US wasn't a global superpower with the best-kitted out army you'd just be a nation of farmers and media producers. Never understood why yankees complain about them for that reason.

You pay taxes because taxes are the lifeblood of government. Effective (read: well fed) government is the single entity stopping everywhere looking like Somalia.

they're the worlds largest oil producer you fucking imbecile

I have a better argument than socialism or capitalism or any of that shit.

Why don't we just go to some shithole country, conquer them, and tax them instead of our own citizens? Imperialism motherfucker, you literally cannot find a flaw or you're a filthy profligate.

The point is that when the government is taking that much money from you, why not just leave?
People want to tax the rich at like 90% without the thought crossing their mind that they will just say fuck this and leave

You know, suddenly every problem your nation has makes perfect sense.

>let's invest trillions into a military occupation
>so we can make.... MILLIONS!

wow dude, genius, where did you study, the Dick Cheney Academy of Business? jesus christ

>he thinks with fiat currency
I put it to you that having a nation of thankful workers who will willingly piss away 80 hours a week to pay for their iphones and netflix is worth more than any dollar amount that could actually provide you with.

I could never be that rich because its so much effort
I just love shitposting too much

Stop making us look bad you dopey faggot.

>conquer a country
>"a nation of thankful workers"
you're delusional

So tell me then how long your work week was and which brand of asian bullshit are you posting this from? I was talking about you, you dumb fuck.

>Now, what is actually stopping you from just taking your fortune elsewhere?
If I was wealthy beyond belief, my money would be hidden away in multiple places so that I looked much less wealthy on paper, contrary to public opinion. What are they going to do? Take my building that is filled with private hired guns and booby traps? I will gladly press the "explode main support beams" button as soon as my helicopter lifts off the pad on the way to the airport.

Yeah, and if the Feds didn't have a massive fuck-off army, Texas would take their oil and run.

The sheer American cope.

i own my own business

Get fucked cunt

that massive army has only really existed since the interwar period, why did Texas stay in the Union in the century prior?

You stupid, British fuck.

Most people's net worth isn't just sitting in a savings account. Chances are it's tied up in property, investments, etc.

it got it's shit kicked in in the previous civil war

You ignorant, classless plebeian. Where is Aleppo?

so that massive army wasn't needed after all then, you fucking moron

If taxes affect you, you aren't actually rich.

So you would, in fact, say you are very grateful for your opportunity to provide your overlords with fiat growth. Thanks for playing.

File a dissolution of corporation form. Keep all your money. File it for yourself, not your bussiness.

Taxes are generally against INCOME not WEALTH. If I'm super rich then I probably only have investment income and don't give a fuck.
There's also probably some good tricks to dodge most of the taxes. Biggest reason not to move is that the taxes would be worse almost anywhere I would care to move to.

>big army was raised to crush states wanting to secede.
>big army was reduced in size because politicians didn't want to fuck about with external politics
>states who got their heads kicked in still know they will probably lose another civil war though.
>get drawn into global politics, raise a big army and fufill the power vaccuum left by the British empire's rapid collapse after we were impoverished by 2 world wars.
>keep the big army around and be global superpower, long dicking any country you feel might go against America interest.

But no, of course, those massive armies weren't needed at all :^)

100% of taxes goes to pay the interest owed on the debt the U.S. govt gets by taking money from the federal reserve. A privately owned bank. NONE OF THAT MONEY GOES TO MILITARY ROADS POLICE SCHOOLS ETC.
Not one fucking penny. It ALL goes into the pockets of those that own the fed.

nothing, why else do you think every other rich fuck keeps money in offshore company or even moves to some Monaco - like many super wealthy europeans have to, since their homeland just milks them dry

When you are a wealthy noble, yes you can go to other countries. but your going to be competing with guys who are all friends and cousins and shit. you can do it but its a pain in the ass.

Otherwise, you stay in your home country with the friends and foes you understand.

Except for there was no income tax until ww1.
Your argument is shit and ignorant.

>Bookoo

I'd like you to name more than 10 "filthy rich" people who not only deserve to be taxed@90% of all their income, but have all their assets seized and get publically executed

You dumbass bootlicker

How poor do you have to be to believe that being rich is having a big bag of money and walking off with it?

The truth is that the wealthy have greater need of regulation, government and the rule of law than anyone else. Indeed, government at this point exists pretty much only for them.

What stops you is that you don't own the politicians somewhere else, they don't give you vast sums of taxpayer's money, they don't create regulation to protect your industry etc.

Moving mere cash offshore, nothing stops them, its quite routine but in the end there just isn't that much wealth to appropriate in the Cayman Islands so whats the point.

Unless you're willing to abandon your citizenship, you can't escape from the IRS.

banklicker

1. Homes for my 4 sons.
2. Pay off their college loans.
3. College funds for my grangkids.
4. Any left, pay off my house.

*me = disabled vet

'people' are fucking retards
they think rich are parasites and it would only be better if they leave

every other country is even more of a shithole. go to canada and you get arrested for saying nigger. go to the eu and you get your head chopped off by a sand nigger. go to russia and ur putin's bitch. go to africa, i dont even need to explain. go to mexico and get shot by the cartel. anywhere im missing?

yeah that debt grenade you have is gonna be a real problem if the people ever decide to stop lending you money.

still need taxes to pay off the debt and stop that happening though (and take out more debt to pay for more army etc).

States can get money in other ways, i.e. through different taxes you fucking idiot.

Union privates were paid $13 per month in the civil war. where the fuck do you think the money came from?

No you get fucked you megacunt. Do you know how fucking stupid you sound? I'm glad you live in a block of flats you economic illiterate. Get cancer and die.

block of flats? dunno what the fuck you mean there bud

I'm the only guy with half a brain in here, dickbreath

everyone else seems to seriously believe that tax isn't necessary or big armies aren't needed to be world powers LMAO

Oh no, poor america and russia controlling 95% of the world's nukes, it's gonna be a real "debt grenade!!!" when someone tries fucking with them over shekels
LMAO
All americans needs is good white supremacist war and they are LITERALLY gucci-to-go
Same goes for Russia

if you really think that a country will threaten to use nukes if people refuse to lend it money then you're fucking retarded

also
>actually believing the 'muh race war' meme

If you think this overwhelming advantage is not going to be used and whitey is just gonna wither away and watch non-white genetic trash like you keep polluting the planet, then you should get better memes to believe in britpaki.

Because you specifically also live in a country with nuclear potential, meaning no foreigners are going to be that hot to intervene once whites start hanging you vermin from lampposts.

Hope you don't actually think there will be some sort of "coalition of the willing" that will run in to save poor pakis like you from getting anthraxed in your ghettoes :)

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trust me
if you are really rich you structure things so that you avoid taxes
look at my flag goy
bloomberg lives next door to me part time
guess what his tax bill is?
0%
so pay your taxes pleb
and your masters will decide what crumbs you should be allowed to keep

Get a load of this limey cuck

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Hyperinflation ftw :^)

You fucking idiot. No one is saying tax isn't necessary for the running of a state and the upkeep of its trappings. But there is a marked difference between upkeep of defence and other public services and thinking taxes are the answer to all of a society's ills. "Effective (read: well fed) government is the single entity stopping everywhere looking like Somalia", is the single most retarded thing posted today on pol, by merit of it actually being your opinion. Congratulations.

muh 'government has nukes' fallacy. the second a government uses nukes on it's own citizens is the second it has lost.

plus, don't forget the people who that would have to go through. if you really think the soldiers would nuke domestic america, you're retarded.

>gets BTFO in an online argument
>buh buh u must not be white

ok bud.

Look at countries with effective civil services and a decent supply of tax revenue (such as Britain). They're all stable and unless the governments do something stupid (looking at you Macron), the people will be pretty content.

Please provide an example of how government spending can not fix an issue with society, instead of simply calling me retarded and maybe I'll listen.

tax incentives niggah, you dont pay taxes, you invest in shit the gov wants and you pay no fucking tax, dude all youll niggas never gonna be rich

in economics I think we call it capital controls. like you can't easily bring money in and out of a country without getting taxed, harassed, etc. Otherwise its money laundering.?

I'll make my own country
With enough money i can build a platform off the coast of the US

>Bookoo

not

>Beaucoup

fucking seppo dogshit butchery of language.

dude you get paid in cash and then you buy less than 1200 gold at a time, keep gold no tax and cash it pawn shop when in need, hide in vault.

... are you for real? Jesus. I was just shit talking when I called you retarded, but you might actually have brain damage.

still not hearing how government spending doesn't help society?

with tory police cuts you already see the fabric of society breaking down, 90% of robberies not being investigated etc.

Some people do. Others restructure their lives to make it less taxable.

What?
You ignorant faggot I know the govt gets money many different ways, but until WWI there was no IRS, no fed, no income taxes and the country ran fine. Certainly better than now.
And I pray everyday people wake up and STOP THE FED. No one has to file taxes. Its a big scam.

This could be done culturally with a new mandate that the wealthy fit the bill for things from their pocket. They are free to generate good will from this. We basically have this with internet products that are free to use. This needs to be brought back into vogue for major infrastructure initiatives.

if I had bookoo dollars, I'd be fine with sharing with my fellow countrymen.

Probably the IRS.

This.
If I will still have a fuckton more than I could spend then what's it matter to me?

Ya gawt a loicense ta fink m8?

>dump money into the eternal art bubble
>stuff it in an air conditioned rented airplane hangar so it's not technically imported into any country and don't have to pay import fees on it
>hire three accounting firms, make them blind to the other two

You... understand that the society you live in today is very different to the society of fucking 1914, right?

Use it daily mate, quite expensive though.

>Now, what is actually stopping you from just taking your fortune elsewhere?

So you're saying we should tax the traitorous rats who try to take their wealth out of this country?

I agree with you.

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Somalia looks like Somalia because of niggers.

Whites would keep on trucking without the need of an overbearing Jewish Government, in fact we would be in space exploring the stars and conquering planets.

And yet 100% of the "tax" money does nothing but make those that own the fed more money.
I havent paid taxes in over 20 years. Income anyway. Fuck the fed, and fuck you for supporting it.

Like where?

>when you hope some smart user will catch the error and walla, there it is

Whatever you want to think man.

Say, as a presumed white man, what have you done to further that noble goal?

That's the nature of capitalism? This is some real fucked up cognitive dissonance right here. I bet you support free capitalism (as most burgers do) but somehow you don't support someone receiving the interest on lent money?

Also
>not paying taxes
>on Jow Forums so probably not successful
>likely trailer trash

No I dont. Usury is a sin.
Charging a fee is fine, but interest is not.
Go fuck yourself.

Im self employed. I do voice work, audiobooks etc. I dont have to pay taxes. No such entity as (MY NAME) Exists anymore. I killed it. Kike bankers cant touch me.

Absolutely nothing, taxation is theft

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This guy gets it.
Have you filled a disolution of corporation form?

How is a 'fee' different to interest?

Definition of interest: 'money paid regularly at a particular rate for the use of money lent'.

Interest is simply 'a fee' that is broken up into convenient, reasonable repayments for the debtor. You raging fucking idiot.

Ok, thanks for confirming you're poor then. The IRS would come down on you like a ton of bricks if you actually made decent money and weren't declaring it.

Just pray you don't get randomly audited even before then hahaha.

Are you stupid?
How is a fee different than interest?
Jfc. Ill play your dumb game.
You see interest is a percentage paid over time.
A fee is a one off payment.
So if you borrow 100 from me @10% interest you will owe me 110 dollars after x amount of time...then 121 dollars then 134 et etc.
If I charge you 10 dollars then you owe me 110 dollars. And you wish you had as much wealth as I do I promise you. Its alot easier when I get to keep all my money. Fair chance you have heard my voice. You wouldnt recognize it as I never use my normal voice. But it is very possible you have heard me.

"bookoo"
you mean beaucoup?

I bet your debt ties you down.

The fuck do I care? I'll never have that problem.

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Also...what part of the IRS cant touch me are you having trouble with?
There is nothing to audit. There is no corporate entity known as (MY NAME) Anymore.
Only (My Name) exists. And only corporations can be taxed. Even then its still a farce as the 16th amendment was never ratified.
I have no SSN anymore I got rid of it by filling one simple form. I have never received a call or a letter or a visit from the IRS and I have far more assests than most plebs that pay every year.

>Now, what is actually stopping you from just taking your fortune elsewhere?

the people who want to take your money, if they have any damned sense

Ok, so you want to borrow $10,000 for a year? Well I want $12,000 back.

At an interest rate of 20% over a year, you'll pay back $1,000 a month.

Oh you disagree with that for some retarded reason? Ok, I'll charge a 'fee' of $2,000 and a 'fee' for late repayment. Is that now fine?

Do you not see how retarded people are that think interest is some sin? Interest is simply a useful mechanism stopping dishonest people from borrowing (in your example) $100, holding onto it for 30 years and then paying back $110 because 'that was the agreed fee :^)))))'.

And cool r.e. your voice. Can't wait to hear about how some bigshot voice actor who did one line of dialogue in 'notable videogame' got audited and went bankrupt.

If you really think that, at some point, you won't be flagged as someone to look at you're retarded.

All they'll do is:
1. Look and see you don't operate a company anymore.
2. Look up if you're employed and see you're not.
3. Contact your bank or use a dozen other dirty tricks to see if you've got assets.
4. Put 2 and 2 together.
5. Take you to court.

It's only a matter of time if you've really got as much as you're saying. Hell, all it takes is one jealous neighbor to see you've bought something else and call the IRS.

>Now, what is actually stopping you from just taking your fortune elsewhere?
laws

you can leave (for now) but your shit is staying here

nigger

Not making so much that even if half is taxed you still can buy a new island every week...fuckin wannabe Jews