5 to 6 weeks out from my last dose of Cymbalta. I am way past the head zap phase and the tiredness phase and I have now entered the murderous rage and regret phase. It seems really easy at this point to just go back into god mode and start taking them again so I don't have to worry about life's problems. But it is better to suffer as a human being than to go gentle into that dark night as a zombie.
The world is so fucked right now that anyone could persuade himself to start taking an SSRI or SNRI. These may take away the psychic pain you feel at the hopelessness of your situation but they will also take away your ability to feel love, excitement and any interest in living a life of physical health and human companionship.
They should diagnose you with a chronic nature deficiency. Living in cities and watching the new all the time makes you hate the world. Some time in the wilderness all by yourself can really help. Just a few weeks away can change you.
Henry Hall
Happy pills are for weaklings who have shit tier genetics
Jaxson Rogers
Wow, WTF is wrong with Iceland? They've got glaciers, puffins and Bjork. Why they so depressed?
Isaiah Barnes
Money-making Creating problems in a patient to sell even more drugs Mind control tool
John Hughes
>puffins
Yeah, something must be wrong there.
Camden Turner
This post is going to be on CNN in a few days.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
likely due to the long long winter nights. and the long long summer days. I imagine that's the most likely commonality also between all the top countries in that graph.
Andrew Russell
I took Ambien for a few years. Then I started getting really bad panic attacks. Thought it might have been from alcohol so I stopped drinking. A year later I was still having them. It’s like any stress I had was amplified. Nothing mental, just all physical. Suddenly an out of control heart rate and I’d feel like I needed to run. It was like prison in my mind. I stopped Ambien and the anxiety went away. Never ever again will I take that garbage. But hey I did stop drinking so that’s good. I look at feel great.
Jordan Thompson
Kek
William Ward
What’s Alaska’s rate of antidepressant usage then?
Eli Price
Jews have convinced white people that it's totally normal to CASUALLY change your hormones/chemical balance whatever and not even blink. That stuff is awful for you. In emergencies, fine. Taking it casually is idiotic. "I need to sleep, I'm depressed, I'm in pain, take drugs." Not only that but they prevent you from actually fixing the problem.
(((pharmaceutical company)))
Julian Campbell
I was on an anti psychotic and anti depressant for light anxiety but mostly because I was stuck. Get yourself through it. Embrace struggle and watch how thing change
Brody Reed
>god mode these are pharma shills. i was on that piece of shit for several months all it did was make me lethargic and have difficulty ejaculating
Luis Evans
I took them for a few weeks before I started noticing really concerning side affects. Take control of your fucking life ffs
Joshua Ross
I take Xanax every night before bed to not have night terrors. >4 years in Afghanistan and Iraq as a grunt. It’s a crutch but it’s better to take a pill then drink a 12 pack before bed.
Nathaniel Harris
from family members I've had take this shit, this is accurate I've stayed away
Colton Ramirez
Inb4 some faggot says I was never built for war. I loved war but when I came back I started having fits in my sleep and I’ve choked my wife on multiple times in my sleep. Taking a pill is better than feeling like shit the next day for thinking you are a person who could hurt women.
Jordan White
>zombie
They should make you more motivated if you need them, not the opposite.
Robert Hall
Lol bro I haven’t felt like a human since 06. Just except it or kill your self.
Lincoln Campbell
It should make you have more energy going by its mode of action.
Serotonin and NET will make you happier and more active, and will facilitate Dopamine release.
Easton Walker
Not on Cymbalta, I'm a F33.3 NEET on a SNRI (Effexor) but I still have zero ambitions or drive. The main effect is that I leave my flat once per week to buy groceries and don't have suicidal thoughts anymore. Should I try Cymbalta?
Meds like that are prescribed far more than they should be, and should not be prescribed to teenagers ever.
Noah Reed
Last part sounds weird m8
Jaxson Phillips
I sleep walk when on xanax. I can see how it would help with nightmares, however
Asher Cook
I tried that. All it did was make me angry and agitated all the time. I take these pills for anger management and curbing my extreme emotions. I still feel emotions but normal on the meds. The people who say just cope don't know what it's like to have extreme explosive up and down emotions. That's why they feel like zombies whereas I feel more manageable emotions.
unironically consider enrolling in this, it's still taking participants
Owen Green
Cymbalta is a SNRI too and probably won't do any better.
The only option you've got is Quetiapine, really; whilst it's an anti-psychotic, it's unique in that it increases PFT Dopamine and Serotonin levels (whilst blocking Dopamine and 5HT2A further back in the brain).
However, it's a heavy drug and it probably will make you feel like a zombie due to how sedating it is at first -- that wears off, but some people can't handle it. It's indicated for MDD if the SSRIs/SNRIs don't work.
Tyler Miller
degenerate
Matthew Gutierrez
SSRIs, SNRIs, and beta blockers accelerate hair loss and make you fat and give you permanent erectile dysfunction and anorgasmia
a bit counter-productive, isn't it?
Dylan Howard
thanks
Jose Cooper
Prozac makes you lose weight and helps control extreme emotions, anger, and agitation. You can't just will the emotional rollercoaster away. Therapists just tell you things like count to ten out loud, close your eyes and breathe deep, or to imagine you're at an island or on a cloud. This is effective at home but not work or any time you have to get something done for obvious reasons. Escapism only helps when you can detach with no consequences.
Colton Ward
I doubt it's a coincidence that basically every school shooter in the last 20 years has been on SSRIs.
Samuel Ross
Rapper Eminem had to go to rehab due to Ambien addiction. That shit can make some people trip balls.
Liam Wright
possibly loneliness, there's only 330,000 people on an island that is nearly the size of england
i was surprised by the portugal stat at first, but it makes sense considering how i've never met a portugese person who doesn't ruminate and sentimentalize
What suggestion do you have to people with agitation, anger, and an up and down rollercoaster of extreme emotions without drugs supposed to do? Before you say exercise I mean at places like a job environment you hate but have to cope with.
Carson Hill
I've suffered from chronic migraine aura since June and my doctor recently prescribed me fucking Zoloft saying it may cause the migraine to stop, is he trying to trick me?
theoretically prozac suppresses appetite but i've never known anyone who DIDN'T gain weight while on prozac and lose that weight when off it
Anthony Clark
it means he can't be bothered to help you
Logan Long
I'm losing weight on it. I have way less of an appetite. I was food addicted.
Noah Williams
doctors should just prescribe speed or oxycodone for depression desu
cool. but are your boners bonering fully?
Joseph Thomas
My problem is anger and agitation by people mostly and being an extreme introvert. This doesn't bode well in the office culture.
Jack Taylor
I was hooked on Xanax for years and all it did was make my baseline anxiety worse. anyone else? how have you recovered? I tried AA and NA but I enjoy dudeweed every now and then because it helps me get out those autistic thought patterns.
Honestly I'm just a young white man who needs some DIRECTION. Why the fuck do you think jordan peterson and others are so popular?
We need a REAL LIFE FATHER FIGURE.
Adrian Gray
A good technique instead of escapism, I’d to become hyper aware. Notice small details, take time to analyze your surroundings. It works, and keeps you cognizant of your current situation.
Julian Ramirez
Hyper awareness makes me angrier or more agitated though.
Carson Rivera
>I have now entered the murderous rage phase not another school shooter, jeez
Jeremiah Campbell
fuck, even nicotine keeps you from starting a revolution. Being free from drugs and not a fucking retard is hard as fuck because you get so fucking fed up and just want to slaughter judges, politicians and journalists... I only have coffee left, everything else have been cut out of my life. Of course if someone offers me some blow I'm OBVIOUSLY not gonna turn it down, same with psychodelics.
Jacob Foster
Have you guys tried no coming on Jow Forums for a year?
Colton Ortiz
Started taking bupropion when needed, after years of switching between ssris, zoloft, and other antidepressants. I hate how they feel, but bupropion atleast keeps me alive when I need to feel that last bit of hope and drive. I Think it has more to do with society, though. so much time is taken by us due to distractions or workload. We work long hours from morning till dusk, usually inside, only to go home and look at a screen all day. I say this after studying 10 hours straight and not even making a dent in what I need to learn by Wednesday for a crucial test that decides if I pass or fail a class. Given, I am a biochem major, but I learn more slow than most people and that shouldnt faulter me, but instead an F has to go on my record because I couldn't learn enough from a fucking foreigner teacher that spoke infront of a class of 400 kids over a very difficult topic. This is the world, paper work and screen time. and when you arent fucking doing those, you can waste your money on consumer goods that arent sentimental in the slightest.
A bunch of bull shit. I can't wait till shit hits the fan.
Cannabis works (is working) extraordinarily well for me. No more valium/oxy/codeine etc etc. 8-10pm have a cone, 60-90 mins later I'm fucking asleep mate. Minimum 6 hours but mostly 7-8 hours UNINTERUPTED sleep. If you don't get good sleep and aren't eating well, nothing else matters.
Austin Myers
People and society are the problem.
Landon Flores
>"Oy vey, depression is a disease. It's not just symptom or reaction to something. Anyone can contract it without any reason at all, goy. So take this pill all your life or you'll be depressed forever. Thank you for your money... Ehem... I mean patronage."
Levi Phillips
thanks for the warning OP, my doc tried getting me on this shit last month, still havent picked them up at the pharmacy, although I do take ativan almost daily for my anxiety. fuck ssris tho
Christopher Williams
sadly this
Josiah Johnson
I self medicate.
I take: Prozac 20mg Seroquel 200mg Modafinil 200mg
Ask me anything, my social anxiety and fear is almost completely eradicated. People actually ask me "Why are you smiling/grinning at work", I just feel so god damn good.
Wyatt Wood
stop taking seroquel before you get gyno and have permanent mental defects
how do you get these drugs? i've never heard of a black market for fucking prozac desu
Kevin Cook
I already have gyno.
I use a certain website.
Shit is cheap too, I feel a lot better on these drugs, literally no anxiety I feel normal for once in my life.
The numbness is sometimes necessary to survive, but unhealthy in the long term.
I got right with Jesus and slowly I got better and don't need them. I'm not chronically depressed. He really does give Hope. Can't tell exactly how, things are just better feeling, no real change in circumstances.
To be safe for all eternity: A: Admit that you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God, and that you need a Saviour. B: Believe that Jesus Christ, Son of God & Messiah, died for you sins and rose again, as prophesied and recorded in the Word of God. Trust in His finished work. C: Call on His name, ask Him to save you, and confess that He is Lord.
Some resources that may help: TTB.org has a verse by verse Bible Study for download or daily listening. Chuck Missler’s Learn the Bible in 24 Hours (youtu.be/PZ3hESj__M8) Robert Breaker’s Bible Study and Topical Sermons (youtu.be/H124iZiyGUs)
The babydick has worn off since I stopped taking Cymbalta. Have great orgasms and bloodflow downstairs. It's only while you're on them that you have genital numbness.
Robert Stewart
Kind of. We don't have outlets anymore to fill the void that many people have that say, the vikings had. Gender roles are all fucked up and women don't know it, and men for the most part don't either. Even if these men do understand it, they still have very little means to express their male roles with a female. Our society is shit.
Ethan Jackson
Can you legit tell me what your problems were before, and what they are now?
Up until late 2010 I was perfectly fine and never had anxiety/panic. Some drunk t-boned me at 100km+ while I was going 65km/h in Fall 2010. Both me and friend were unconscious for don't know how long, probably a few minutes. I remember coming to and a cop with a dog was at my window, then I looked at my friend who was KO'd, I had to shake him awake because I thought he might be dead. There was blood and gasoline everywhere. Was diagnosed with a severe concussion, PTSD, panic disorder (second to PTSD), moderate depression, dissociation. Had to wear sunglasses during the day and ear plugs (Imagine ordering coffee, they'd speak to me asking the same question and I was just staring at the cars, then they'd notice the ear buds thinking I was crazy). I was running multiple businesses before, never had anxiety really ever, was the most laid back person. Afterwards became completely agoraphobic and abused alcohol. I have never driven a car since.
I'm legitimately thinking of taking paroxetine or trying it. I have a bad car accident years ago and started having life-threatening panic attacks (250/190 blood pressure, in ICU). I had a concussion and post-concussion syndrome so likely some brain damage. Was hospitalized 30+ times for panic attacks. Lorazepam or whatever benzo they gave me usually helped immediately, every SSRI/SNRI/etc I tried didn't do fuck, some made it worse. Been on Clonazepam 2mg/day (1mg twice a day) for 7 years has made my attacks go away entirely, haven't had a legit panic attack in 7 years. Keep in mind I'm very tolerant of it so it's not a big dose for me. I feel fine emotionally, I'm not a "zombie", whatever the fuck benzos fix in my brain works. Every time I go to a doctor they look at me like an evil drug fiend. I saw a new Psychiatrist the other month and he of course recommended (paroxtine) by default. >What do?
Christopher Reyes
>they will also take away your ability to feel love, excitement and any interest in living a life of physical health and human companionship.
ive already lost those shall I get into them?
Jackson Allen
pretty much the same thing as weed and lsd. mind control drugs
Brody Hall
Seroquel made me fat. It is worse than weed in terms of munchies. Particularly desire to eat sweets. But man does it chill you the fuck out...
Ryan Powell
mustard
Mason Mitchell
it means he thinks you're nuts and is just hoping a pill makes you shut up
Christian Adams
I think they're like a shitty precursor to idealized soma. The way most pharma scripts are handled are pretty far in line with Huxley's soma, at least in terms of societal adaptation of substance use by the vocal majority with minimal research/understanding behind what they're actually ingesting. As far as the effects I'd debate that SSRIs aren't really pleasurable drugs (or at least AS pleasurable as what he'd alluded to)
>These may take away the psychic pain you feel at the hopelessness of your situation but they will also take away your ability to feel love, excitement and any interest in living a life of physical health and human companionship. I can make this same argument for a majority of recreational drugs. You made it past brain zaps and insomnia. Now you can start looking inward and figure out why your soul feels like it's being torn apart and figure out what it would take for you to live a more fulfilling life.
Carter Parker
Can you tell me how SSRI/SNRI/SDRIs differ from a benzo? Emotionally I am able to feel all emotions, I function fine, I have no side effects (obviously except for benzo withdrawal, which I must be conscious with. It doesn't help most doctors assume you are an addict if you come in early for a new prescription and of course as a conseque waiting until 1-2 days before your pills run up and have to check yourself into an ER with the ER doctors angry/confused for coming into an ER for a script).
I remember trying like 20+ SSRI/SNRI/SDRIs and none helped for panic attacks, I was status panicus non-stop. Only benzos help. My nervous system is fucked. Should I even try Paroxetine?
Brayden Jones
I gained about 40lbs while taking Prozac. Took me more than 2yrs to loose them. Fuck this shit. Never again.
Blake Powell
in some cases it's persistent
i have no idea what the percentage is though
Zachary Moore
try the gaba* drugs, like gabapentin and pregabalin
they should be used to wean you off benzos, they're not something to take forever
Carter Russell
I've tried those, no difference.
The symptoms come back. I've tried experimental drugs etc. Gabapentin in fact does fuck all, and this is the most pimped drug that anti-benzo phanatics try "oh take gabapentin, this will fix it, even though this benzo has fixed you". This is why I trust very few doctors. Furthermore, pregablin is an unproven, non-studied, LARP gabapentin supposed-alt (it has no clinical trials). KYS.
Joshua Williams
I've heard bad stories about Paxil.
Cymbalta doses are between 60mg and 120mg. At 60mg you feel tired all the time but pretty serene, so you will gain weight and become kind of a shut in. At 120mg you will be energetic and able to do shit like go to the gym and work but it turns you into a robot and you also develop poor impulse control (I drank like crazy on 120mg).
Getting off Cymbalta is like waking up into a nightmare. Not only are you overwhelmed with the build up of negative emotions the drug blocked but your body also aches because Cymbalta is a pain relief agent.
I would not take Cymbalta unless you choose to spend the rest of your life on it and you can live with feeling like a robot, being a recluse, having a damaged liver, not being able to enjoy a sex life, etc.
Cameron Price
As a guy who's been on at least 20 different psychotropic drugs at different times--usually four or five at a time--I can tell you that all that shit is poison. So is alcohol. Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
Kayden Clark
Thank you for your very honest reponse.
The shrink, fuck it. I have tried it before, can't do it
I drink barely anything I do 1000+ pushups a day. etc.
Jason Evans
Can you manage with just antipsychotics/benzos?
I hope you can find a good doctor. I find doctors to be not just useless but actively harmful in managing psychiatric medicines. And when you are monkey swinging from GP to GP while constantly changing up medications and doses to find the best solution you can fall into a pit of personal hell very quickly.
Jonathan Roberts
>easier to get that serotonin release >do less to get that serotonin >less you become useless shit man
Aiden Collins
drugs are the "niggers on welfare" of your brain
If you give it the brain dem drug gimmedats, it stops making it on it's own chems
Charles Ross
What other solution do you have for the extreme introvert who gets agitated and angry easily to survive in an open office culture where no negative emotions are allowed and you have to socialize well.with others to keep the job? There's nothing else that can cut down on the anger and agitation. I tried therapy and it didn't work.
Thomas Collins
Clean your penis bucko
Brayden Sanchez
We would be if we were on it. Nobody does Jewish drugs as much as America.
Jaxon Bennett
>Probably >Antidepressant use highest in most advanced and well ordered societies.
Clearly it has something to with culture and climate.
Portugal and Estonia are the exceptions to the pattern, and I would've thought Spain would be higher.
William Jenkins
I WILL HEAL YOU through my will and energy. I will not accept your sinning though. Even trying to make the easy way out is sinning. Gtfo your bed and start your Life. If its hard good, then its not boring as fuck.
Adrian Gonzalez
test
Colton King
your dr is being considerate of side effects though there are better drugs for migraine they can come with more side effects, zoloft has less side effects than other drugs used in migraine prophylaxis making it safer to try first ssri is like second line treatment anyways after beta blocker/certain low dose tca they would try ssri or antiseizure like pregabalin/gabapentin
t. migrainer
Cooper Roberts
Yeah don’t do this you will become paranoid with everything
Brandon Johnson
I take gabapentine and topamax for cluster headaches my pcp just added Zoloft to mix for anxiety so we shall see how this goes
Thomas Carter
I find Wellbutrin comfy. Effexor was terrible. Felt like I was always a nervous speedy 4 on a scale of 1 to 10.