Why is whenever someone makes a thread anywhere on this site it automatically gets overrun with shills downplaying the military might of these countries? Is it just westerners who dont want to accept reality or is it Russian and Chinese agents trying to downplay their capabilities before the big attack?
Everyone knows you dont underestimate your enemy. History has taught us that countless times through history. So why are we doing it now? The west is fractured, most nations in NATO have comparatively tiny armies compared to China. We rely on Americas might which is spread all throughout the world. China and Russias assets are concentrated and combined together are the largest militaries in history. Simply sitting back and saying 'Oh the boomer boats will take of it' its mere complacency.
When is the west gona wake up and start re-arming? Both China and Russia have made quantam leaps in military weaponry, equipment, vehicles, aircraft in the last 20 years then probably any army in history. Go back to the early 2000s and the chinks were still running around in olive drab padded uniforms and carrying those ancient type 91s. They wear digicam, use QBZ-95s, modular body armour. The Russians wear multicam, their weapons made of polymer, railings, hell even straight up using NATO gear and equipment. Theyre Spetsnaz look like DEVGRU. Theyre not fucking around anymore.
Im from Australia, we're already being overrun by chinks as it is but I also know that when they come we wont be able to stop them. Our military is fucking tiny.
Russia can only afford 50 new tanks and the chinese army's task is to kill unruly chinks if they step out of line.
Justin Thompson
kek you're pretty clueless. Russia is a paper tiger on the verge of demographic collapse. The main danger is that they chimp out and wage one last war before they're forced to bury their imperial ambitions for good. Which is why sanctions are the wrong way.
China is a different beast, they will claim their sphere of influence and there is not much the USA can do about it. Taiwan is lost, Japan will have to deal with the fact that they need good relations with China to prosper and the nations bordering the SCS will suffer a similar fate to Carribean and South/Middle American countries. China might turn out to be a more benevolent hegemon anyway, to pretend that they're as aggressive as Russia or the US is scaremongering. So far the worst they've been doing is building infrastructure everywhere.
The most important thing to note is that Chinese are not a martial race, they have been rice-helots enslaved by northern warrior races for most of their history, one European soldier is worth 10 Chinese on the battlefield. China's greatest advantage is that they are an actual country, not just a multicultural international economic zone. Russia is dying from the same civic-nationalist decay processes which are killing the West, albeit at a slower pace. If we manage to reestablish our ethnostates and form a global European military pact, we would have no trouble frying the gooks again.
>Russia is a paper tiger >German flag here we go again
James James
Russia has done some very interesting stuff with artillery in the Ukraine. They give low level commanders the ability to call for artillery and CAS based off drone feeds. This significantly reduces the time required to coordinate a strike and is a much more rapid loop than allowed by the US Army. They also outclass the US in Anti-Air capabilities as our AA assets have basically been left to rot since 1989.
China is shit. Their equipment is all cheap copies, their units are trained at the individual soldier level, and not much more and they have a brown water Navy.
Russia is more dangerous than China and we should be allying ourselves to Russia against the yellow peril
Oh please, Russia isn't the USSR and you know it. You'll sell us gas and rattle your sabre a little bit here and there to remind us that you're a nuclear power. But Russia is a declining power trapped between China, the US and the EU with many internal problems and a failing economy.
>he west is fractured, most nations in NATO have comparatively tiny armies compared to China NATO exists to deter Russia. Do Australians really believe that Europeans will help you contain China? >China and Russias assets are concentrated and combined together are the largest militaries in history Why would China support Russian interests over their own? >When is the west gona wake up and start re-arming? The West as in US, Japan, Australia, Phillippines? Because you're on your own vs China.
Criticizing China or Russia doesn't equal being an USboo, stop being such a sperg. China is a joke overall, they can't even make proper use of their huge population, so their real domination tactic is trying to colonize other countries, they're trying to do that here too. Pyccňa's strength is within their territory, with their honed tradition of killing the enemy through attrition. The US is strong in logistics, but it's lacking in some of those things which are hard to define, perhaps the soldiers know, deep down, that they're going against their own interests, mainly since US involvement in international wars really began in the XXth c. Look at how they lost at Nam, for instance. One might argue that they didn't really want to win that war, that its purpose was a few people profitting, but that happens elsewhere too. For instance, in Russia, the communists genocided rebels so all they'd have left were obedient goys, and yet some people show resistance. And about muh China: everything they currently have was handed to them by kikes who transferred manufacturing wealth there, they didn't actually build anything, it can be taken off them just as easily.
Grayson Lopez
The last war the chinese won was against themselves and even that took 25 years.
Dominic Bailey
The US is saying its not ready for a peer war, while china is continually saying it is. Ask the battalion of ruskies that ran into a marine listening post earlier this year about who's more ready for a fight.
Daniel Davis
Having two superpowers is good for small countries like mine, when it was just the US they didn't give a shit and now they're offering billions of dollars in investment because China did.
Isaac King
China knows very well that they couldn't take on the US military. The PLA gets BTFO by the Blue Force (basically US army with what the Chinese estimate 2030 tech to be) when they hold maneuvers. But that doesn't mean they wouldn't go to war over Taiwan. That's who these Xi quotes are aimed at. China isn't building a navy to project power into the Atlantic or to the US west coast, they just want to show the SCS bordering countries who's boss.
DESU I don't think anyone except China would fight over Taiwan. It's all just posturing to save face and in a decade or two the US will throw them under the bus.
curious about the listening post thing though, got a link?
Michael Diaz
The military might of those countries is very strong in a defensive posture but don't compete with the United States as far as projection of military power goes.
Chase Campbell
Russia and China can only project power locally and against small countries locally. Weak tier.
>And about muh China: everything they currently have was handed to them by kikes who transferred manufacturing wealth there, they didn't actually build anything, it can be taken off them just as easily.
...and given to Mexico and Brazil. Which is in the new trade agreement for Mexico. Brazil is coming soon.
Christian Williams
Russia s army is ahead in some places but behind in a lot of places
China’s a paper tiger though
Anthony Green
When the west used to be powerful, they invaded the entire world to steal land and resources and enslave/genocide people. They are afraid of China's rise because they think China will do to white people what white people did to the rest of the world.
But that's not the case.
China has never had imperialist and colonialist ambitions like the west. Even many centuries ago when we were powerful, we never sought to colonize and subjugate the rest of the world like white people did. That's still true for today. The Chinese military's role today is to ensure China's sovereignty, territorial integrity, and to safeguard world peace. This is diametrically opposed to, say, the US military, which seems to be always engaged in some war of aggression since the end of WW2.
Don’t be a fool. You’re literally falling for their propaganda cunt.
Just because the Chinese and Russians and North Koreans march out millions of their underfed underpaid drones in fancy nylon polyester uniforms with prop guns on live international television, it’s because they’re paper tigers, they want to make people believe they’re BIG and STRONG.
If you want the honest data, compare our spending, compare our stockpiles, compare our tech.
Look Chinaman. I’m no racist, we all have equal potential. Chinese culture is nice and respectable, but only one nation is making it out of this thing on top.
And in a world where I have to choose between the world being dominated by the communist thought crime punishing Chinese, or the freedom loving libertarian last bastion of hope that is the United States, ill choose liberty every time.
Now, I’m not saying we will indiscriminately slaughter you all, but I’m telling you we are going to maintain our global cultural economic military hegemony, and that’s going to protected at ANY cost.
Anthony Barnes
>USA >free Top kek
Landon Morgan
China could have industrialized before Europe, they just didn't have the need to do so
Yellow peril is just a tool to drum up public support for military spending.The average mutt doesn't understand American foreign policy and genuinely believes that foreign powers are plotting to invade the US to take their freedom away.
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Jackson Gonzalez
Because Jews dont want you to arm yourself up.They want a weak West.
They do shill for a conflict against China and Russia 24/7 in the media but only so you dont concern yourself with another possible enemies and internal problems.
They want Western countries to fall into complacency and suffer high casualities by keep the West weak and letting China and Russia catch up, but only so much that it wont bother a nuclear armed Israel that keeps gearing up on our tabsand looting our armories.
Adam Lewis
>freedom loving libertarian last bastion of hope that is the United State thats a cute euphemism for Israels biggest bitch that is constantly in a conflict between pretending to have a free will and actively enforcing Jewish political, economic and military hegemony over the world, bans on thought crimes over Jews and indiscriminately slaughtering all and everyone that literally stands in their way
Lucas Reyes
As learned many times throughout history never under estimate your opponent
>China could have industrialized before Europe, they just didn't have the need to do so >China could have developed mathematics beyond the gradeschool level, they just didn't have the need to do so >China could have developed the scientific method, they just didn't have the need to do so >China could have won some nobel prizes, they just didn't have the need to do so >Chinese could have stopped being a race of sadistic effete uncreative autists, they just didn't have the need to do so
>Russia can't afford the Armata or the SU-57 >China's military tech is all shitty copies of US and Russian stuff very implessive, America and HATO are finished pic related, Chinese patented "not a BMP btw"
And how many of these tanks are upgraded to 1980ies tech? How many aren't death traps that couldn't even penetrate a modern Western tank's armor? Don't get me wrong, it doesn't hurt to have huge stockpiles and even outdated weapon systems will come in handy when it's time to defend the motherland with barely trained conscripts. But they're useless on the offensive and these comparisons are meaningless.
Jace Ortiz
>12,000 outdated T-72s sitting in warehouses and 8,000 assorted other shit very implessive
Eli Gomez
> sitting in warehouses That's where they keep their T-80
They dont throw out their tanks 2,400 T72.. >"Russia’s Military to Receive 100 New T-14 Armata Battle Tanks. the initial plan of inducting 2,300 T-14 MBTs by 2020 had to be pushed back to 2025, "
The first batch of T-14 main battle tanks has already been delivered to the Russian Ground Forces for trials.
The Chinese probably have a much larger nuke arsenal than reported, for that matter the US and Russia probably do, too. All sides probably have all kinds of unimaginable superweapons.
