Okay what's the real story with the CSA...

Okay what's the real story with the CSA. The left act like all they were fighting for was MUH SLAVES! MUH SLAVES! But that can't completely be it. There had to be multiple reasons but we're never told them. Can a Ameribro enlighten me on the matter?

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The southern economy was dependent on slavery. 4 out of the 5 richest states at the time were southern. For the South, ending slavery would have been like cutting off their dick. Who cared if the rest of the world saw it as barbaric and outlawed it generations beforehand? All that fucking money for the 1% needed to be made.

Muh tarrif of abominations.

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They were fighting to keep slaves dumbass

It's basically the same thing as California and its illegal Mexican slave labor today. The wealthy need their slaves.

Which is the ironic thing.

They were fighting for the core values the USA was dependent on to begin with. Taxation without representation was one of those triggering points for American's at the time. Of course, that was before the cucks of Germany were shipped over after their failed revolution, and about 80% of all the losers of Europe.

Now you have the largest Jewish-Gangster ran nation in the World. Really quite a sight to see 400+ lb burgers wheel themselves around Wal-Mart in their electric scooters.

Money. Honestly, America would be 100x better off if they just let them leave. Besides North Carolina and Florida, they are just a bunch of niggers on welfare. And we would still be much more conservative.

The poor southern man didn't give a shit about the roughly 4% of his neighbors who owned slaves, and certainly wouldn't take up arms so they could keep them. The north literally began invading the south and the proud southern man fought to stay free. It was really that simple for the majority of them. The war of northern aggression.

He aknowledges that in his post but was asking if there were any other reasons, dumbass.

California actually has more slaves than any state according the government. A bunch of chinks for sex slaves and spics for farms.

The cotton gin would have put those niggers on boats to Liberia faster than you can say " Gibs me dat shit, mane,"

The Northern politicians were insulting the South as backwards and immoral and attacked the honor of Southerners directly for practicing slavery. Also the South feared utter economic collapse and Northern political and economic domination if slavery was abolished.
They interpreted the abolitionist movements in the North as an direct attack on the sovereignty of the individual states and therefore betraying the ideal of the US-constitution and founding ideology.

The North was mainly Republican and the South Democratic. The Democratic party-split in Northern and Southern Democrats during the 1860 election and the subsequent victory of Abe Lincoln meant for the South that Southern-friendly politics will never win an election again and utter Republican domination of the country for decades was inevitable.

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Lincoln should of done what he campaigned on and shipped them off to Haiti and Liberia.

Nope, it was about slaves and dicking over new states and territories into accepting slavery.

The CSA's constitution is almost identical to the USA's at the time and didn't grant the states any more rights.

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That’s because America started out being state first, nation second. North wanted to change that by subverting the law.

Slavery was going out of style. The world new it. The South wasn’t fighting to keep slaves. They were fighting for the right to decide how they were going to end slavery. End it there way rather than it be forced upon them and destroy their economy.

Sort of like what happened with South Africa and apartheid.

Misplaced reasoning for liberation, right of the individual against state tyranny (union aggression).

If the confederates were alive today, they'd certainly be anarchists.

I both like and dislike the CSA. They would have been a better government, and we may have kept our culture if we balkanized instead of formed a union. That being said it was a war for the elites. The main owner of slaves were jews. They were the ones who wanted to keep slavery and forced millions of our men to shed blood. Just like many wars, its more complicated than just saying the south was perfect and was the clear good side. So im mixed even though Im from the south and had family who fought in the CSA. Thet werent fighting to keep slavery, they were poor farmers from alabama.

Hardly. show your flag btw

this. Also, Lincoln was based and redpilled, he wanted a natsoc economy with all-white workers. He had plans to deport the blacks back to Africa, but then he got shot by a Democrat.

South seceded to preserve slavery, but the north invaded to preserve the union, and then justified it by claiming it was to eliminate slavery halfway through when a few hundred thousand people had died.

That's basically it.

If you secede from a country, you don't get to keep it's property, aka Fort Sumter and every other federal fort the United States Government put in the South. Maybe if the South treated Fort Sumter the way Cuba treated Guantanamo, they could have co-existed.

the jews owned the slaves and owned the distribution of goods like cotton
they also were heeavy in the other end (british textiles) that took delivery
they also were heavily into lending and upplies to both sides of the war
they have a history of playing boths sides of every war
they do it to sacrifice the souls of men from Christian nations to their satanic god
the same type of people push abortion, degenerate pornography, never ending wars, debt slavery, and anything else they can to poison the souls of people living in a nation that was traditionally Christian.
they serve their master, lucifer, literally

Where does that leave the US and England then?

When you secede from a country you are one way or another taking their property.

Lincoln would have never allowed that. He would have sacrificed every man woman and child in America to preserve his precious union. Now look what you have: an endless string of fast food joints connected by federal interstate highways. Soooooo worth it.

What? You realize I'm talking about before a war, and you're talking about after a war. If the Confederacy wanted to keep all American Military bases and forts, they were going to have to fight for them. If they won, they'd be theirs. They lost. If they didn't want them, there would have been no massive Civil War, just some subversive tactics and an eventual economic collapse of the South because the rest of the world was anti-slavery and wouldn't trade with them.

France was pro south and a lot of England was too, despite the slavery

The South would almost certainly have been recognized if they won the battle of Gettysburg

It was unironically about “muh slaves”. The hidden knowledge that a lot of people don’t know is that the southern slave owners were predominantly jewish and that the leaders of the confederacy were predominantly jewish.

So basically jews told the USA to fuck off and tried to secede over “muh slaves” and then Lincoln btfo out of them and was going to send the niggers to Liberia but then a faggot Jew shot him.

That’s what happened.

>cucks of Germany

A faggot Jew doing hasbara in this post. No you faggot Jew, the civil war was 100% about slaves and the confederacy was mostly jewish and Lincoln was shot by a kike before he could deport the niggers back to Africa.

Get in the oven.

yeah, war mongers wanted to sell arms. Big deal. No one would have traded with them. Whether they started the war, or won it. Which is probably the reason Lincoln wanted to end slavery, since he knew niggers sucked too.

No. The confederacy was jewish. Lincoln did the right thing. No jews stealing the southern states allowed. Sorry rabbi.

No that’s just what the kikes want you to think. It was a war of southern jewish aggression. Kikes tried to secede and steal half of America.

He was going to until he got executed by a faggot kike.

Who the fuck do you think the south sold all their cotton to DURING the war? The north!?

The other factor that people seem to be missing here is the free speech side. The north arrested pro-slavery newspaper editors, etc. They did not allow free debate on the issue, during a time when a lot of southerners were being quite reasonable. Many wanted to phase out slavery and proposed a number of ways to do it.

>German flag
>talks like a kike
>verbal IQ
>hasbara about the civil war

Get in the fucking oven faggot.

No kikes wanted to secede and create a new israel in the southern states you lying little bitch.

No. Kikes in the south were most definitely fighting to keep their slaves.

Based Jews, all niggers should be in chains if you ask me.

No one. Why do you think they lost?

The Rothschilds (france england) as usual financed both sides, but promised to bring in support if the south set up a central bank. They politely declined and the rest is history. Lincon was going to get rid of the niggers, but a 33rd degree mason put an end to that, and all of the racial harmony that comes with it. The rest is just diversion and distraction for those that cant see the big picture.

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Bribing, take it from someone who grew up and lives in the belly of the former confederacy (Alabama)

The civil war was fought strictly and explicitly over the south’s reliance on slave labor for their economy, and the north’s ever growing abolitionist fervor. It came to a head when the United States completed our westward expansion and the issue of what states would be free or slave states.

Finally a “compromise” was reach in which if a slave escaped to the north, the slave was declared a free man, and if a southerner lost his slave with the fugitive slave act, northerners had to help or face federal penalties. This was short compromise, sectional tensions only rose and not long after Lincoln’s election and campaign on abolition, the south ceded, some states at first, the others soon joined.

Anyone who tells you “muh states rights” is just trying to hide their racism or try and deflect the obvious answer.

The confederates are very much alive today. Just go to a jewish temple in Nashville TN. Those are the descendent of the confederates. They still have a shitload of slave money too.

Britbong * fucking autocorrect

>jewish slave master plutocrats would have been a better government than the Union

Get in the fucking oven kike.

The civil war wasn't a "civil war". It was a war of secession. The North wanted to loot the south. It's really that simple. The South didn't want to be federally unionized. That is literally what the war was over. The north had indentured servants, same thing as a slave basically. The war wasn't over slavery, that is an excuse.

t. TN user

They sold as much as they could to anyone that wanted cotton you dolt. They sold it through Mexico, the caribbean, and ran the blockade. It's how they financed their whole war effort

>the rest of the world saw it as barbaric and outlawed it generations beforehand?
they didn't.
>all that money for the 1%
yeah because the freed niggers surely wouldn't be a source of competition for free whites all over the country. We're in a very similar situation right now with south of the border niggers and, similar to the past, both parties are shitting all over and taking advantage of the average worker
Meme myth. Lincoln never took that idea seriously.

don't trust the rednecks (confederates) posting in here, they are lying and/or ignorantly spreading false information

wtf I love jews now

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All of these anons are a product of Jew controlled education system. It was a repeat of the banking war of 1812


READ redpilled user, he get it

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It was worth it. I would kill every man woman and child in America today with nuclear bombs if the alternative was giving the southern us to a kike government.

Totally worth it. Southerners shouldn’t have fought for kike elites and they wouldn’t have gotten btfo.

Of course that’s what you think, because you’re a kike. Niggers should be in Africa and that’s where they would be if it wasn’t for cock roaches like you. Get shellacked baby dick sucker.

and it wasn't enough, which is why their war effort failed. Put two and two together, Einstein. They needed the big dogs to sell to. Not some dirty spick peasants who wear the same outfit for weeks. All you're doing is moving the goal post and proving what a moron you are.

The fucking irony of this post. How many jew wars has this country been involved in since then? The union sucks, the country sucks and it's a shithole that's soon to be swallowed up by a brown horde. And frankly, you deserve it for actually believing in the bullshit enlightenment ideals like "equality" that led to it.

What do you think "federal unionization" implies you retarded niggerfaggot?

You’re a fucking retard.

T. Nashville non-kike

How triggered are you moshe?

>T. Nashville non-kike
More like t. Nashville Socialist shit brain

You live under a government and banking system entirely ruled by jews. Every single war since the civil war has been for Jewish interest. Are you totally fucking retarded or what

fuck you niggerhipster, too scared to wave the stars and bars; Ive seen the nashville type before

t.ruralfag

I don’t believe in equality you dumb faggot. You’re the one who is too retarded to realize that niggers are a biological weapon brought to the USA by kikes and that the confederacy would have turned the USA into Brazil by now if they would have won.

Shit might be fucked but it would be way more fucked in the confederate kikes would have won. It can always get worse retard.

Seems like a waste to leave all those dumb apes running around in Africa when we could use them for free labor to me. At least those kikes know not to waste a nickel.

Slavery was the main reason. Everything else was a side issue.

Obviously it wasn't enough, but you claimed that other countries wouldn't trade with the south, which proves what a retard you are. The south provided most of the world with most of its cotton before during and after the war. No one gave a fuck about the slaves

National socialist yes

Huntsville Bamafag here. Love driving to Nashville and checking out the bicentennial park and that general side of town.

happy hanukkah

Nah you’re a kike. They don’t fly the stars and bars in Nashville but up north where I’m from they do. You’re a bunch of nigger fuckers and kikes down here.

Where I’m from it’s German blood. The south is biological waste and needs to be nuked because y’all love niggers and kikes way too much.

You're not smart enough to be a National Socialist.

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You and that user got it. Spot on.

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Dude you’re a kike 100% please gas yourself

They thought the union was voluntary. LOL.

The EU needs to pull an Abraham Lincoln on the UK.

Never been to bama but I hope it’s less liked than Nashville I fucking hate this town

>I don't believe in equality
then you're anti-american. simple as that
>niggers are a biological weapon brought to the USA by kikes
which is why the "non-kiked" unionists freed them right?
>and that the confederacy would have turned the USA into Brazil by now
t.56% face
>Shit might be fucked but it would be way more fucked in the confederate kikes would have won
they did win. The entire country was lost long before the civil war and sold out to the bankster jews before you ancestors probably even got here.

keep living in denial or do the proper thing and just kill yourself

You’re not white enough to suck my dick with your moms lips.

Fuck the confederacy. Burn down Atlanta again!

I think you’re a kike protesting about kikes so much to hide your kikedom

>youtube.com/watch?v=uHDfC-z9YaE

Start at 13:00 theres your answer bong. Right from a persons mouth that was there.

1) the constitution said women and niggers weren’t people
2) Lincoln was going to send the niggers back to Africa before a kike shot him

3) I’m not replying to the rest of your bullshit because your obviously a lying kike

You sound like a Jew hating black hating white trash tard so you’d probably like it a little better down here.

Come visit birmingham

>muh mom jokes
retardation confirmed.

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Kikes calling me a kike is one of the rare pleasures of the south. Can’t wait to leave this nigger kike land. I’ll be waiting with a AR up north if you faggots ever try to come up there.

Birmingham sounds like it’s full of niggers. I’m trying to get away from niggers.

Your mom is a whore

we all know why youre running back, pedro; you cant pick crops in the winter

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>1) the constitution said women and niggers weren’t people
no it didn't and no it doesn't and the declaration of independence affirms the founding fathers belief in enlightenment christian bullshit regarding equality
>2) Lincoln was going to send the niggers back to Africa before a kike shot him
no he wasn't but keep believing in this retarded myth. it just showcases how retarded you are
>3.)I'm not replying to the rest of your bullshit
hopefully it's because you're about to take my advice and put a bullet through your head

The Antebellum South was the best and most stable social structure that could possibly exist in a society so stratified by IQ disparities.
They were fighting to protect their way of life which was in every way superior to that of modern America.

>whitenigger thinks he’s going to face less Jews in the north versus the south
>has no loyalty to his homeland

Yep. I’ll agreee with you. You definitely belong up north Yankee Doodle. Whenever the leftists come for your guns, yes, we will still bail you out, dumb faggot.

You're a lying sack of shit. The Brits had a stockpile of cotton during the Civil War and backed the US, so they bought NONE. No one else needed cotton. The rest of world was using silk, or loin cloths. The confederacy's attempt at foreign diplomacy with France failed too because they sent crass idiots, like everyone from the South. So no. no one gave a shit about the South's cotton except so worthless countries that don't even matter in the international trade community.

>ad homs
Cringe, I was 15 once too.

lol wut?

Its not really that niggerly. They live in the north west side. There is a set of projects that are in the middle of an otherwise nice city. But theres nothing around there so you should be good. Also stay out were full.

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The U.S. was wrong for bringing niggers here in the first place. The South was wrong for wanting to keep the tradition going or at least not killing off the niggers once they were done with them and the North was seriously wrong for freeing the fucking animals. but like others ITT have said it doesn't make a difference because the country was lost to banking institutes long before any of these issues came about.

I wanted you to see how fucked up this fucker is.

Do you think he had a rough childhood, anti social, or just one of the inbreeds?

Oh i thought you were replying to me, I was like well damn, I was born in the South, I live in the South, but he called me a northerner.

President Grant was on of my forefathers. You southern kikes are gonna get your merchant ships burned down again and this time we will finish the job.

Sessions is a little bitch.

Fuck you faggots I’m done with this slide thread.

Get burnt kikes.

The only good thing that ever came out of the south was the KKK

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The Cotton Gin took slavery from profitable to mega profitable.

Slave based economics. Exactly.
Same with Texas. When the Texans revolted against Santa Anna it was because he, Santa Anna, outlawed slavery in his domains.