Daily reminder that the Romans and Greeks, which this board looks up to as arbiters of greatness or some shit, were extremely homosexual — sometimes to the point of refusing to have sex with women.
Yet you all, in your endless intellect, use the term "faggot" and attack gay people as a means of upholding your perceived hetero superiority. Really makes you think.
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fuck off kike
Homosexuals are mentally ill.
Did you know there used to be a natural contraceptive plant in Ancient Greece that went extinct because people kept using it too much?
proof that I'm right and you have nothing else to say, thanks.
Yeah and thats why they got their faggot ass kicked and are non existent anymore
That's like saying the Weimar Republic was representational of the entire German race. It was an art style popularized by homos. I'm sure there were plenty of greeks and romans who had never seen art of this sort or would have shunned it if they had seen it. KYS faggot
> extremely homosexual — sometimes to the point of refusing to have sex with women.
I'm pretty sure that is the definition of homosexual, thanks for pointing that out .
The Roman's were rarely homosexual, the Greeks moderately.
Homosexuality was only accepted in Roman society if it was being given by a free man to his slave. If two free men had sex they'd be shunned and in some cases killed.
Homosexuality saw a steady decrease over the many centuries and by the time the Roman's arrived is was basically a thing of the past.
>sweaty oil wrestling is not gay
t. Constantinople
It's a well known fact that the Greeks were man-on-boy gay as fuck. That wasn't exclusive to their art.
More proof that willingness to have sex with the same sex is limited by culture and that the vast majority of people are bisexual.
In Greece *
All empires end in degeneracy, happened to the Roman's too. What's new.
August was Caesar's boy lover lmao
Alexander had a lil twink fuck boy
The greatest men in ancient history loved boipucci, how does that make you feel?
god i wish that were me
some faggot Jew probably commissioned the artist to make that, like the degenerates on Deviant Art today making furry porn
doesn't mean it was normal or acceptable
I dont care about gays.
The gay hysteria was brought upon by the abrahamic menace. A worldwide parasite.
>ended
I think you mean began, moron
Read Plato's Symposium.
This.
To claim that the Roman's fucked their boy slaves because they were gay or even bisexual is retarded and just goes to show your utter lack of knowledge of real history. Anally raping slaves that you've just purchased or prisoners you've just captured in battle was a common means of establishing dominance and breaking their will so they wouldn't revolt. It was a dominance thing, not a pleasure thing.
They also had slaves and conquered weaker nations through fascistic force but you dont like that part do you you fucking mongoloid?
Every single pre-Christian civilization across the world excluding the Greeks and sometimes Roman's killed gays because they thought of them as unnatural. Actually read something of history, retard.
>It was a dominance thing, not a pleasure thing.
>Implying it's not both
No because I don't fucking worship them and their culture, I'm just pointing out gaps in logic in the at-large mindset on this website.
>I just fucked that tight little boys butt
>no homo though
kek
Romans didn’t care much for faggotry. They only looked the other way when the person had the ability to destroy them politically and economically.
Thanks for reminding us the greek and roman empires collapsed from degeneracy
Youre the same guy telling me dudes fucked boys but aren't gay. Please stop talking.
You literally wouldn't even get hard if you weren't at least aroused to some degree.
Cute boys CAN be arousing. There is nothing wrong with that.
>Implying it's not both
That's your opinion and although convenient for your argument no historians would agree with you. Not that I expect that you care about facts.
Someone post the Plato v. Aristotle 'Are traps gay?'
>No historian would agree with me that a man fucking a man/boy in the ass as a means of establishing dominance wasn't also sexually pleasurable
really makes me think. again.
>Youre the same guy telling me dudes fucked boys but aren't gay. Please stop talking
"Facts don't align with my political views so SHUT UP"
Grow up libtard.
>You literally wouldn't even get hard if you weren't at least aroused to some degree.
You don't have to be aroused to get hard. Soldiers get hard all the time when they go into battle because of the adrenaline.
>facts
>whatever I spew out of my mouth and make up are facts
I never claimed they weren't physically pleasured, I said their reasoning for doing it wasn't pleasure.
Do you really have no better argument than putting words in my mouth?
(You)
>refusing to have sex with women.
Based &
Redpilled
>the end of the republic was around 45bc, when men were fucking each other all day
>the western empire collapses in the 5th century
>the eastern empire ends in the 15th century
Wow dude it sure must have been degeneracy.
Real good grasp of history you got there
>cope
You realize no one can ask these people right? Youre deferring authority to some random article writer. Sorry. Basic logic dictates you dont fuck something if youre not attracted to it, to believe they were totally straight but fucked men and boys is straight up delusion.
Kek
Wow gays existed before the lgbt movement big surprise huh??
Btw the only one that were gay at the time were the more richest people,the plebs hated this kinda of degeneracy
nothing wrong with fucking guys in the butt. what's fucked up is maintaining man buttfucking as a major part of your identity and teaching children about it
By the way. Nothing in your article echoes your lies of them not being bi or gay and the act being nothing about sexual pleasure.
Fucking a dude in the ass is gay no matter the fucking reason. Stop the mental gymnastics christcuck
>historians now the expert on what is gay and isn't gay
Kek
Nah I fucking love that part. I'm just able to divorce the hating of modern fags from ancient cultures cus I'm not a fucking brainlet
>uhm sorry but you do realize no one could ask these people why they did these things even though they wrote records of why they did them so logically its cause they were gay
The left cant meme and apparently they can't argue either. Cry about it fag.
as soon as we kill people like, hang you in the streets, flush europe of the niggers and muslims. i fully intend to fuck my fellow Jow Forumsanons trappypussy and making respectable art of it instead of flying the rainbow flag or looking like an ugly creature from a gay pride parade
Fuck off Greg
>the left
Ahahhaa newfag christuck trumpniggers ladies and gentlemen. Abrahamic swine.
will u fuck my boipussy user ? :D
Your argument is nothing but mental gymnastics to begin with, but please refer to Caesar taking Augustus as his boylover and then making him his heir, instead of his own child or his right hand man. Moron
Good thread.
Fuck that, I was here helping your argument before him. I want first dibs on wrecking your boipucci you faggot
thank u for helping me make Jow Forums gay again daddy
>but we're respectable, why won't you accept us, muh based homonationalism
Terry Jones said in one documentary that jew and early Christians are the ones who introduced them to the idea of strict marriage as a way of life and not just a business contract for the rich, witch all marriages were at that time.
Nothing is manlier than making another man take your dick.
Every homosexual I've met irl has been a sex-obsessed effeminate betaboy. Most have rape fantasies. A disproportionate number had drug problems.
Homo communities are riddled with disgusting diseases.
You keep telling yourself that you're "normal" though. Everybody knows that you're not.
I kinda feel bad for all of you hyper-hetero guys. Having a cock in your ass feels so fucking nice. Imagine yourself thinking that licking a girl's pussy is gross, but then once you do it you're like "holy fuck that is awesome." same with sucking dick and getting fucked in the ass. It's just another dimension to sexual pleasure. Open yourself up to sex with guys and all of a sudden you have twice as many potential sexual partners in the world. Have fun!
Mmmmm.
And they fell into degeneracy and got eclipsed by people who did not engage in homosexuality.
>he doesn't joke around about giving his friends brojobs
I've never had any slightly homosexual experience in my adult life. Calm down my afrikaaner friend
Is it bait if its true?
Fugg.
>greeks
>arbiters of greatness
*POP*
Very cute male
I hate this dumb fucking brainlet thinking more than I hate the "Christianity caused the downfall of rome" meme. What the fuck does degeneracy have to do with invading armies you moron
Behaving like a faggot ironically is still behaving like a faggot.
The homosexuality in Greece and Rome was WAY different than the homosexuality we have now. Back then they took pride in fucking, be it fucking a woman or a young man. Being fucked in the ass was the lowliest a man could get. Nowadays fags are happy when you pound their ass. It's a matter of perspective really. Fucking or getting fucked.
Go suck shit out of an asshole faggot.
That's a dude
Oh noes! Did we hurty your prewcious feewings?
>refusing to have sex with women.
As opposed to today when we have thirst retard beta men putting roasites on a pedestal. They really were smart back them.
Yeah I know. I am into guys.
>that the fuck does degeneracy have to do with invading armies
Nothing, but it has everything to do with the collapse of the institutions and social structures that build and defend civilisations
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I hope you get stealthed faggot.
This, essentially. It wasn't some stupid fucking identity it is now. I blame the christcucks for causing this tbqh lads
>the Romans and Greeks were extremely homosexual
>were
Wrong
Again, look at the timeline and tell me it was fucking degeneracy. The argument that it was christianity (which it wasn't) holds up a lot fucking better than that stupid fucking argument.
Pay debnts
You spelled boys wrong you fucking pedo
American Christians are the one that do the conversion therapy thing and taught that the sinner was separate from the sin. It was the secular left that preached the "born this way" horseshit.
Lol
>extremely homosexual, sometimes to the point of being literally homosexual
Not exactly. Ancient Greeks were homosexuals as toady not more not less. Also the public homosexuality was strictly illegal the homosexuals were called "kίναιδοι" means the people who act like wild dogs. A second reason that people think ancient people were ultra gay is due to smearing of "pagans" from Christianity back then.
reported
Homosexuality was common and encouraged in sncient Sparta. it was thought to provide cohesion in military units. The guy to the left under protection of your shield just might be your boyfriend.
Nah, I meant the identity bullshit fags have today. If it wasn't some super awful taboo for centuries I don't think we'd have these attention seeking pieces of shit that make that their core identity.
In Rome it was probably mostly epidemics. But the degeneracy and falling away from traditional marital institutions (massive rates of divorce, promiscuity, faggotry) definitely weakened them compared to their ascent when they'd strictly enforced morality . It's never just one thing that collapses a society, but pretending their immorality didn't play a role is naive. A lot of things led to the foreign invasions, they wouldn't have been preyed on if they weren't weakened.
funnily enough these are exactly the same figures which would be called 'alpha'
Spewing all the hate and rage about women, promoting the superiority of men - put 2 and 2 together, its not exactly a far stretch that these guys are just closeted gays.
The Spartans hated homos
The Sacred Band of Thebes was the homo army unit
They defeated the Spartans
>"Some romans had sex with male slaves."
>"The vast majority of people is bisexual."
Quite a stretch, mate.
Umm twinks are all 18+
All that shit is Christian propaganda
>If it wasn't some super awful taboo
So when people start openly fucking animals you're going to blame that on Christianity because it's a sin too? faggotry needs to be repressed in order to build a productive civilisation. So does promiscuity.
Ew.
There you are Romanian tranny spamer
Holy fuck there's so much wrong with this post. They were fucking boys since the beginning, when exactly was that enforced against? Do you know how many times Rome was invaded? Do you know anything at all to begin with?
Spartans weren't gay.
The Greeks weren’t so gay more like certain places. The Romans however were into it once they turned into an empire and got flooded with slaves.
It is over.