Will the shut down work?

What are the chances trump gets anything out of the shut down?

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I don't know but at least no one can say he wasn't trying to build the damn thing.

I think that is the main reason he's doing it

To prevent his base from hating him

We will all get a beautiful new wall!

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Nice for Trump but not for the Republicans next Trump-free election bunch of commie fucks.

Newfriends, this has happened every year for almost a decade now. Here's what happens if dems don't blink and shutdown. Shutdown will be temporarily delayed by house vote, then dems blink later. Mayyybe 1-3 days of actual shut down. Just bread and circus.

I like the headline
"White house refuse"
Not "democrats refuse".
Seems like the democrats would rather make Americans suffer that allow Americans to get their wall, just to make sure Trump can't keep his promise and no other reason.
It's fucking disgusting actually. People and kids are dying sneaking across that wouldn't even have tried if there was a wall.
Maybe democrats just don't want all the jobs building a wall would create?

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Pretty much this. Government employees will get a few days off (paid), nothing will get solved and the national debt will continue to rise.

Won't help unless he actually succeeds. "I tried" doesn't stop illegals.

Jazzhands McFeels says there is an extremely low probability that Trump will be able to get the $5 billion for the border wall in order to avoid a government shut down and that there aren't movements in Congress to acomodate that demand. Basically TRS says Trump has lost this battle most likely and he's gonna get raped this month and next month when Nancy takes over.

>its gonna be a shut down look out
>shuts down for holidays anyway
wew lad

Kys. Trumps promise was that mexico would pay for it. What happened to that you fucking faggot? Dems dont need to pull a stunt just so he wouldn't keep his promise. He did that on his own autistic accord. Kys

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Isn't the only part of government that is shitting down Homeland?

Shut it all down. The only problem with a government shutdown is congress gets back pay when they come back. That’s 1000% bullshit.

He won't shut it down, he'll make a deal for something non wall related and then build the wall with the military afterwards

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I don't understand why they hate the wall so much.

it depends on who caves first

I don't care if it goes on for months and creates havoc. I will gladly take losses and respect Trump more and more each day that he holds out.

ITS HAPPENING

Pretty good. Trump doesn't lose anything by the govt shutting down, however the democrats have everything to lose.

This. Dems and RNC both fall in the same quadrant of the political spectrum. Dems just have to damage control a bit before towing the line.

Trump wrote some checks with his mouth during his campaign now he has to start paying them off

There will be no wall. There will be no compromise. In fact, we WANT *rump to shut down the government. The less he gets done between now and impeachment the better it is for America. Tick tock retards, January and the investigations of the century are coming.

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So why didnt it get passed last year when republicans controled everything?

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>paid no attention to NAFTA replacement
>Trump never said how they would pay.

The dems know they won't get campaign support from Shlomo Shekelburg if his Globalismcorp can't hire illegal spics for maintenance and janitorial for peanuts.

not enough Republicans in the Senate

Duckduckgo or Bing search Mexico $30 billion to combat immigration.
Mexico is now willing to pay because of the influx they got (due to democrats).
So now it's just a matter of democrats budging.
But I guess your trusted news source neglected to tell you about Mexico's $30 billion dollar pledge.

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if our government lacks the will to preform their basic duty of securing the border they should shut it down and keep it that way

its a schumer shutdown the left will be blamed no matter how the media spins it because everyone knows its about the wall and pro illegal dems

50/50... This shutdown is going to be a case of who blinks first, and which side bitches the most.

Trump promise that so he wouldn't be bogged down in a tax payer debate about why taxes that could go to feed the homeless are being sent to a wall. I always knew Mexico wasn't going to pay for it but I supported Trump at the beginning because it as unlikely of Trump victory was at the time it brought it to the forefront of the election. We came this far and I don't care if we have to raise taxes to pay for the damn thing. Without the wall the Right is lost in the 2020s.

this

>Trumps promise was that mexico would pay for it.

We build it and charge $10 to each Mexican that passes though. Mexico WILL pay for!

Also I miss eating Hawaiian spam musubi!

>republicans
you mean the people trump made fun of in the Primary election
you mean #neverTrump republicans who spent 100s of million fighting trump in the Primary elections?

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All it would take is for someone to put in a unrelated bill, like how Israel keeps getting money.

Just like last time, the Dems will be blamed (rightfully so.)
Trump is already on the offensive with a tweeted video today calling out Schemer's hypocrisy.
Literally a video of Schumer, Obama, and Clinton all PRO border security prior to Trump taking office.

It's clearly a partisan move that'll further cripple then left.

Im not sure why the Democrats dont postpone this until March.

Do a deal for "some" sq footage, for a pushback of the date to March.

In March, Trump will hit Venezuela, and another oil country, probably not Iran, but maybe. The financial crisis will hit then.

Since a war going on...Democrats have excuse to sign again, this time no sq ft, because Trump will need to sign just as bad as dems. This pushes it to October.

In October, Dems refuse to sign, and the stock market crashes (again) if it didnt in March, worse then before. Dems can let Trump campaign during a financial crisis. Never good for a president in election year.

Guess who won't get paid.

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Are they actually so retarded that even after the public rejected them at the ballot box, they doubled down and started digging their political graves even faster?

Please see

Because Mexico flooding in means more Democrat votes which means more globalism which means less freedom along with white genocide. Have you not been paying attention?

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Probably nada but I think he's just stringing Democrats along to make em look like shit. He'll build the wall with the enormous military budget that got approved already and probably veto their foreign aid to Israel because it makes no sense to give them 3.8 billion a year for the next decade, when it's being used to start wars.

a wall does not = border security you 50 IQ pathetic stupid piece of shit monkey

a wall is barely going to do shit for border security. billions and billions of dollarson a wall is just stupid, wasteful spending. the liberals were about intelligent border security. trump is about ignorant, wasteful spending that just sounds good to ignorant pathetic shits like you

None the less, Trump said he would do it and let the Democrats cry all they want, he WILL get a wall.

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If so trump should be actively calling any desenters out and installing people loyal to him. He could have easily campained and won seats that would support him.

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>implying a wall wouldn't help with border security
>implying liberals are so smart that they can patrol so much open and empty desert better without a physical barrier to help them
>implying you're not just a shill trying to make us lose faith in the one man willing to save America from the likes of you

its about ego
you think they are just going to let go that he made fun of a Bush, and disrespected the Bush family.
you think they are going to let go what he said about McCain ?
why do you think he is never invited to anything

Both of yall are retarded. NAFTA is too different now, and certainly won't pay for the wall. Wishful thinking retards
Wow nice mental gymnastics to cope faggot
Not bad

Isnt* too different

he does
they need to be up for reelection for this to happen

Wall has worked pretty goddamned well for israel

Good looking wall there!

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*selecting another good goy replacement for mccain in Arizona

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>a wall does nothing
except in every country that has them
cant even tell if you people are just shills or actual braindead morons

They have a choice. Move on or end their career because obviously nobody is going to vote for them anymore.

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>But walls dont work
>Give the jews another 20 billion to build walls

Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here - it's hilarious to watch him crash and burn like this. But seriously, we can't let this guy have the nuke codes.

It takes 25 billion for the wall
He is asking for 1/5 of what he needs
He is intentionally low balling them because he knows their denial of even 1/5 what he needs gives him political capital to build it with the military.
He can stand up and tell everyone look how little I asked for that they wouldn't even give me

Their electoral strategy is built on shitskin votes AKA White genocide.

If walls didn't work, than why did the Secure Fence Act of 2006 drop the nunber of illegals in the fenced areas?
Extend wall lengthwise annd vertically so none can circumvent it and the wall will pay for itself before long in recovered illegal immigrant social service costs.
Learn to think longer than next Tuesdays news cycle fuckhead.

>the liberals were about intelligent border security
>intelligent border security
“Fuck it let them in” is not intelligent border security

Fucking hypocritical dems

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Dont fund Isreal until wall is paid for

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What we have right now is a goddamn fence and it's chain-link fencing at that in MANY places. Let's build a concrete WALL.
>Inb4 bigger ladder or digging under it

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Lmao why would they back a fence but not a wall?
Because the wall keeps their future amnestied voters out, a fence does not.

>If walls didn't work
most Americans have 7' fences(walls) around their properties......
i wonder why that is.

>"I tried" doesn't stop illegals.
Well apparently it does because less illegals came when Trump got elected.

These people have got to be fucking stopped, so yes we fight them over it. Ideally this breaks their will and they get with the fucking program of "yes we are building the fucking wall for the people." Fuck, nothing will be seriously affected, and the military can be looked into after the shut down as the ones to begin construction.

Besides who doesn't llike some crazy with their holidays lets be real here guys

Vosotros cerdos americanos no necesitan un muro, necesitamos más diversidad

trump is awesome

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cant he do a obama and just order it done anyway over the senate?

all trump has to do is say he will cut all aid to israel till we have a wall at least as nice as theirs and it would be funded tomorrow, completed by next month.

I'm sure the "shutdown" doesn't stop sending """aid""" to Israel though.

If nothing else he'll regain some favor with his base who he's been losing as of late due to no results on the wall and other things like Antifa, web censorship, South African genocide, etc. This is his last chance to actually do something for once instead of just whining on Twitter.

Federal Govt will NEVER do ANYTHING beneficial for the average citizen!
We must do it ourselves!
More Central Government is Never the answer!

Is there a date for when this will happen?

liberals dont want the wall because of the future of the democrat party. this is at stake

out of sheer fear of our literal hitler gassing them obviously

The american people voted for the wall. Are you against the will of the majority?

Notice how Trump's opponents focus on the win condition of Mexico paying for a wall when the real condition is whether a Wall is built or not regardless if US taxes payers are on the hook. The fact Trump's opponents focus on this ancillary part of Trump's policy proposals, means you miss the Schwerpunkt part of the wall policy. Using Keynesian economics we can see that the economy will be stimulated in the short run with increase in Federal Spending so we should support the construction of the wall.

Using the millitary, sure, but then you can be absolutely certain that the mentally unhinged leftards will flood the streets in unprecedented fashion. Playing the shutdown game is probably the best for him, since he's got the actual power with the senate and EO if they try to pass something shitty.

Shut it down. I want the same wall Israel has.

Useless. All gone back to nothing when he's out of office.

>you can be absolutely certain that the mentally unhinged leftards will flood the streets in unprecedented fashion

dude they flooded the streets because 0.0001% of the population that is Trannys was being"Denied" the right to use any bathroom they want

Patrolling the border almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

You're retarded if you think the normies are ready for Hitler tier talks of the JQ yet. It's best we slow boil them on basic goals which will lead them into realizing Hitler was right when all these Jews scream about how America should die

what does a government shutdown even mean

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no its time, people including trump, have already been saying why is it totally fine for Israel to have a wall and defend their borders but its dead wrong if we do the same?

You overestimate this. The people who got out in the street for fucking trannies are the leftest of the left, the brainwashed, mushbrained part. THose people are gone already. The trouble is that for center and soft left people the millitary is only okay when it's used for disaster relief or a undeniably needed operation. Using them for everything else WILL be unpopular, especially with constant MSM shitflinging.

sign the money bill and hand the border over to the military to build the wall.

mate they flood the streets at the drop of a hat to virtue signal against trump. fuck if he blinked too much they would be matching against him saying he was trying to wipe out the sun with his mind, and MSM would report that as a fact because of "sources close to his thinking"

Chances? Guaranteed. The government is shut down starting tomorrow for the holidays, Congress is out of session, and nothing important is happening anyway.

Trump planned this like a motherfucking champ. He's gonna win this one, too. He's forcing Dems to have to go the American people and tell them letting foreigners into our country illegal is more important than anything else.

They're fucked. And they don't even know it. Trump has barely started pushing them for real on the issue, and this is the first rel, serious shove.

Again, those are the usless, radical leftist type. THere are a lot of soft left people who dislike Trump but won't get off their ass to the streets unless he does something REALLY big. Spending billion from the already overbloated millitary budget will get them out.

>give $5 to build wall

>a year later

>gonna need another $5 billion

>three administrations later
>"""great""" wall

if government funded medical care would be shit - why not this wall? see state-level pot holes

No YOU miss the point, the people who complain about the wall are NOT Trump voters, and never will be. Trump needs the wall to make HIS voters happy. Trump knows if the wall is being built those who voted for him will 99% sure vote for him again.

The Democrats have NO new strategy for stopping illegal immigration, all they will do is more of the same leading to another 12 million new illegal immigrants.

Non-essential shit shuts down, like the national parks. Real government shit still operates.

A wall was needed 40 years ago, and a wall can’t be voted out of office. I could start calling my drug dealer an undocumented pharmacist too.

Congress is out of session for the year, and the 116th session. They won't be voting on anything until the new session starts in January.

Trump picked this time period on purpose, the whole town is shut down, starting last Friday, until January.

The GOP fucked him on the funding. There's too many NeverTrump's in the party.

Trump isn't really a Republican, and the GOP barely puts up with him, that's why he's gonna bend the DNC over and make them fund it.