Voter ID laws target minority demographics, prove me wrong

fucking india requires photo ID to vote and they're a third-world shithole
if some dirt-poor indian can get a photo ID to vote, so can you, nigger

>treating poor and old people like middle class or younger people is stupid

you don't believe in basic human equality so of course you're broken. something in your mind needs to be repaired with drugs, possibly physical ablation. so sad.

you missed the point. its not about being completely helpless, its about removing their ability to vote. as the articles said, a majority just gave up. yes they can get a photo ID but whats the point of introducing it when its blatantly suppresses voting?

Create a Federal Agency to provide free ID cards to every American citizen, just like we have here in Brazil, supported by tax payers. Problem solved. Next question?

I'm sure you have lots of dumb Jewish misrepresentations to try to talk around the issue, which is that niggers are too retarded to get ID's

Every law in the country “targets” minorities because they break them more often

so i guess we shouldnt have pedophilia or consent laws because we can treat young and teenaged people like adults right? and child labor laws shouldnt exist? i guess age discrimination isnt a real economic issue in america. redlining is a totally fine business practice and racism is a myth. imagine being retarded enough to think that everyone should have equal treatment regardless of circumstance.

>a majority just gave up
Then they don't get to vote.It's simple as that.If someone is indeed politically active then go through every fucking procedure required and get your voter ID.If they don't care enough to do so then i d say good riddance,they shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place.Laws are not and should not be made to cater to sub optimal IQ and the innate laziness of niggers.Get with the system or go back to Africa.

or just not create this retarded ID law that prevents registered voters from voting so we dont need a shitty government program to inefficiently distribute american ID cards.
well ur not exactly wrong

>For example, residents can vote with a government issued ID conceal-carry license that requires two Federal background checks and ANOTHER government issued ID to obtain, but not their state-issued student university IDs printed by a first-year student on equipment the school purchased from Staples."
I legitimately, no role-play, want to start seeing you worthless lying kikes executed on the streets. I pray I get the chance to put a bullet in you before I die to the browned hordes.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_Identification_laws
every fucking country on that list except the US requires photo ID
mexico, india, brazil; all these nations have populations much much poorer than our own, yet at a national level, you must present photo ID to vote
being poor or busy is not an excuse to not have a photo ID; if you want to vote but can't be asked to put in such a minimal amount of effort, maybe you shouldn't be voting. it's fucking free

Pretty much every other western nation on the planet (including all those social democratic utopias in Europe that leftists idolize) require you to prove who you are at polling locations before you're allowed to vote.

This is not some onerous or unreasonable requirement. There are a lot of things in this society you cannot do if you do not have photo ID or other forms of authentication. This is not to fuck people over or disenfranchise them, but to PREVENT FRAUD.

lets walk through this
>completely able to vote and registered to do so
>new law invalidates your ability to vote even though you were previously perfectly fine
>you just now learn about this at the ballot place and only have a few days to obtain an eligible ID
>you give up because its a giant waste of time and money
but theres absolutely no suppression going on here right? just black people being black right?

other countries requiring photo ID doesnt mean that the US has to do it to. these other countries having voter id laws is completely unrelated to voter suppression in the United States. for the fraud point, i already talked about that in the OP. other countries dont have a second amendment, we do. surprisingly, countries govern their citizens differently than others.

>people lacking proper identification Texas
Gee I wonder who they could be referring to

I guess we should just never pass new laws and regulations, because there's always a risk people who don't keep up with them could be negatively affected by it. I'm sure corporations would love not having to hire armies of lawyers to keep up with all the new federal codes and regulations.

The point of voter ID laws is not to identify a voter or prevent fraud. It's to normalize voting precincts larger than local neighborhoods where people know one another. It normalizes the idea that government is some far away inscrutable, non-responsive database that doesn't have anything to do with you personally.

Also
>you can use (an identifier that you are a law abiding tax laying citizen registered with a permanent address in your county) but not (literally just a piece of laminated paper with your face and school logo on it)

You're right, just amuses me that socialists hold countries like Sweden up as a shining example of governance, despite their "racist" voter ID laws.

Or maybe it's that there's nothing racist about requiring people to prove they're the registered voter they say they are at the ballot box. This whole discussion stems from the uniquely US idea of "disparate impact," where even if a policy itself isn't inherently racist, if it negatively affects one group of people more than another, it is a bad thing and should be ruled illegal.

keep moving the goal posts and you might end up in the white house

Voter id targets common sense.

Why in the fuck do you people not require identification before being able to cast a vote? Its fucking retarded and you know it

>have a few days to obtain an eligible ID
That's the only thing i m willing to give you as being a mistake.But then again that should affect everyone equally.Asides from that,voting without proper photo ID is asking for FRAUD and it's preposterous your state allowed it up until now.

>the onus is not on the people to be educated, or proactive in their exercising of their rights
get a load of this guy, he wants niggers to keep being soulless automatons

And that's because minorities overly represent crime related to voting in any given country at the time.

Good job avoiding the point altogether. Your argument has been centered around people being too poor and busy to get photo ID, I show you that virtually every democratic nation (including the incredibly poor ones, much poorer than us) in the world requires photo ID to vote, and your only argument is that we're not them so it doesn't matter. I don't really have anything else to say, you're just ignoring common sense that voting should require identification, I show you evidence that every other nation does it, and you say none of them matter either. I tell you voter fraud occurs, you just say I'm wrong, I tell you poor people get photo ID all the time, you just say I'm wrong, I ask you how we're supposed to identify voters if not with photo ID, you ignore the question.
I can only assume you're stupid or doing this intentionally; in either case you're not worth talking to.

I don't believe for one second that they don't get it.They just allow it to get away with vote tampering.If that wasn't the USA you can bet your sweet ass any independent international observer would have declared all the past elections fraudulent and invalid

Whatever. If an ebil corporation missed broke some minor regulation in the millions of pages of US codes, you and your ilk would be screaming for their heads. But if Shanequah can't keep up with even the most basic of civic duties like voting, all of the sudden she's a poor victim of our bureaucracy.

i dont think anyone in this thread would want to live in sweden. the second part is just simple economics though, you need to look at all parties affected by any parties action.

Nigs have no problem buying malt liquor and Newports, how would voter ID effect them in any way?

Who cares? They shouldn't be there.
You know when people say "well if that burglar hadn't burgled someone's house then he wouldn't have gotten shot. I feel no sympathy for him"? Well this is basically the same thing. Get he fuck out of the country if you don't want to be "targeted". I'm glad to see (((they))) have proven the old adage of "beggars can't be choosers" wrong because apparently they can.

It's pretty fucking weird to be a legal citizen who has no ID. We don't pass laws to pander to outliers, regardless of race. Yes, it disproportionately impacted minorities but that doesn't mean it's inherently racist. Laws against murder and rape disproportionately impact minorities as well. Are those laws racist?

You’re right. Minorities are too stupid to use identification.

fraud is almost entirely a myth. when it does occur, its taken to court and 9.9 times out of 10 proven to just be some simple mistake on the voters part that gets resolved within days.
>i tell you voting fraud occurs you just say im wrong
>I tell you poor people get photo ID all the time, you just say I'm wrong
so you give me absolutely no evidence and i link evidence in the OP. what did you expect? i can tell you didnt read any of the links. once again, another nation having a different system doesnt disprove that the law being passed in the United States would negatively impact minorities more than any other demographic. idk why you think india needing voter IDs has anything to do with registered american voters not being able to vote

You are being racist for assuming minorities dont have id's or are to incompetent to get them

They do. But not explicitly. They only target minorities because everyone knows that ethnics are lazy, low IQ mongrels that won't do anything unless it's placed right in front of their face.

btw OP can't inb4
OP is a newfag shilling kike faggotry straight from leftypol

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Sounds good. Lets do this.

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the goal post has moved so far that i cant even see it anymore.
im not assuming anything, im reading reports from articles and lawyers discussing the situation with federal data.
federal courts are striking down these voter ID laws specifically because they disenfranchise elderly people and minorities.
'The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, in its decision last week, held that the North Carolina state legislature acted to entrench itself and “it did so by targeting voters who, based on race, were unlikely to vote for the majority party. Even if done for partisan ends, that constituted racial discrimination.” '
washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/03/courts-are-finally-pointing-out-the-racism-behind-voter-id-laws/?utm_term=.ceff8bf073b4

You're not wrong that fraud is rare. But when elections are sometimes decided by one or a handful of votes, it's important to ensure that every ballot cast is by a person who has the right to vote and has only voted once. Voter ID is one of many means towards that end.

Another fun liberal hypocrisy, I love how Democrats in Congress scoffed $2k bonuses for the working class as a result of corporate tax reform and called it peanuts, but someone suggests making those same folks pay $20 for a government ID, all of the sudden this is some obscene amount of money that they could never afford lol.

atleast you lads can admit it. now if only we could take away the womens vote....

this is epic pilled

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>so you give me absolutely no evidence
>post the fact that third-world nations require photo ID
>ignore it
I don't know what's so hard about the idea that if poor people in other nations can and must get photo ID, then so must the poor people in our own nations. You don't see indians or brazilians complaining about how much their free photo ID costs, but dear God, get a nigger democrat up on stage and he'll do nothing but complain about how his extended family doesn't have an hour to spare between their 3 shifts and mcdonalds, the meat packing plant, and the stone quarry to go get a photo ID for free at the DMV
fuck this, I'm out, you're retarded; your intentions have nothing to do with trying to help people vote, you know that niggers are too lazy to even bother getting a photo ID, so you have a harder time taking them by the busload around town to vote democrat at every polling place
you're not convincing anybody here, I don't know why you're even posting

the democrats treat any success by republicans like an inconvenience. its kinda sad seeing the partisan mental gymnastics from the left

Why don't democrats ever cry that Chinese, Japanese, or other high IQ minorities need help getting a fucking ID? It's always the low iq tier ones...

You are a racist

Beauty is but a mouseclick away. Ty. Basedboy testicles are small like marble

Okay so what?

So would you support laws against rape being stricken down because they disproportionately impact minorities?
Who cares what some kike loving judge decides, make up your own mind on right and wrong.

because they arent the ones that are affected the most by these laws.
you are not old enough to be on this board

They changed it. Fuckers

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>new law invalidates your ability to vote even though you were previously perfectly fine
it doesn't
>you give up because its a giant waste of time and money
so voting is a waste of time to these people? then why are you complaining on their behalf

rape was never legal. people were never registered and within their rights to rape. this is a total false equivalence.

If your too stupid to have id you shouldn't vote fucking man childs

>A lot of people don’t realize what it takes to obtain an ID without the proper identification and papers
then they don't realize what it takes to be an informed voter, either
>Many people will give up and not even bother trying to vote
then voting isn't important enough to them, is it? why should they be able to vote?
>voter fraud is largely a myth
are you fucking stupid? were you here in November?
>1,586 did not — meaning their votes did not count
as it should be. if they didn't return, it's probably because they were trying to vote illegally and were afraid of getting caught.

There. Problem solved.

Why would white people make it difficult to get IDs for some races but not others? Especially since all these races (blacks, mexicans, chinese, etc) all vote vastly democrat.

You dense fucking idiot

If you believe it's a giant waste of time and money then you don't vote. Simple as that.

Who the hell doesn't possess and cant get a government identification? You need it for almost any interaction with the government save voting (the citizens most important governmental interaction)

No it isn't. Your only argument for voter ID laws being racist is that they disproportionately impact minorities and I just illustrated how that line of reasoning is bullshit.
Voter ID laws always should have existed (fucking India has them for christsake) and yes, some toes will get stepped on when we wise up and implement them.
Breaking eggs to make an omelet.

How do niggers get welfare without ID?

>Less Democrat voters
Give me one reason to care.

wtf is that game
I'm interested

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"A federal court in Texas found that 608,470 registered voters don’t have the forms of identification that the state now requires for voting. For example..." in the op retard
you're*
and they were registered with a valid ID until this new law was passed in texas.
>they dont realize what it takes to be an informed voter
well they did when the laws were reasonable but then some republicans wanted to suppress their ability to vote under the guise of voter fraud. the 1568 were mentioned in the article to have brought invalid ID aka ID that previously would have worked but now doesnt under the new photo ID laws.
>were you here in november?
because Jow Forums is now the leading researchers in voting fraud i guess?
so you prove my point that its just suppressing votes that were previously completely viable. amazing.
because republicans want to pass these laws and democrats want to keep their voting base.
rape isnt a privilege or a right. you arent taking away a demographics right or ability by making rape laws. if you cant understand the difference between registered voters who had the ability to vote now being unable to vote and rapist who were never allowed to rape being unable to rape then ur either arguing in bad faith or a retard.

>proves you're not lying
>liars think it's unfair
>her-der facts is RAYCIS

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EEnE Online
Did you even try Google before you asked

Checked. This should have gotten trips

You and the Democrats are racist. You believe minorities are to incompetent to have have IDs

i really cant user, i just like to argue with people.
EEE online, closed in beta. theres occassional larp threads about it on /v/

You didn't negate my argument at all. If you're too goddamn lazy to go out and get the ID you know that you'll need to vote then you don't dear your vote. Simple as that. No political party is suppressing them, they're suppressing themselves.

>implying voter ID laws read "minorities can't vote"
Now whose shifting the goalposts?

Used to play ed edd and eddy games online bacl in the day. Miss them days.

There was this top one that was fun af.

you cannot collect benefits without ID.

YOU HAVE NOW BEEN PROVEN WRONG.

youtu.be/rrBxZGWCdgs

>"A federal court in Texas found that 608,470 registered voters don’t have the forms of identification that the state now requires for voting. For example..." in the op retard
that doesn't invalidate them. they can still vote, they just have to get an ID, nobody is preventing them from doing anything and in your own fucking words these people view it as "a waste of time" so why the fuck should anyone care? suck a dick

So? Should I care even remotely?
The smaller and whiter the voting population, the closer we get to representation based on tax burden. The people spending the money should get to say where it goes.

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From now on you need ID to vote.
But I don't have ID.
So get one.
WAAH THATS RACIST

Fuck off, 2nd gen Hispanic born in town of more of the same. We all got IDs. This is because you want the illegals voting. BTW, we fucking HATE mujados.

Im not even us citizen but when i worked there i got ID from dmv in like 5 seconds
Are niggers that retarded?

so every time someone makes it harder to purchase a fire arm or takes away formerly legal fire arm parts i guess thats not supression or gun control because you just need to stop being lazy right? taking away peoples rights for scapegoat reasons is text book suppression.
so people who were perfectly able to vote and legally within their rights now dont have the proper identification to vote and you dont think thats suppression?
>go out and get an ID
read the article. and i guess you dont have to care if ur white and republicans arent trying to take away your rights huh.
interesting video. first one to actually give any form of convincing evidence.
they had an ID but now its not eligible to vote with.
ok whitey
sounds pretty nice ngl.

in germany you have to show your 'vote invitation' as well as your ID(has residency on it)

I support limiting the franchise and liquidating undesirables

Whatvis a fake ID? What is identity theft? A crime most often committed by illegals.

Voter Id laws are racist because brown people are literally too stupid to get an ID.

dude the dmv lines are fucking atrocious. it took me 2 hours to just take my written test for my drivers license. you had the luckiest dmv experience in the world.

there is no constitutional right to vote, mr. cockmongler. also no, I don't view it as suppression and you know why? because
>they view it as a waste of time
it's not important enough to very people you are defending.

Of course it targets them. People here illegally register to vote all the time in Texas. The Democratic party in California has registered many thousand of illegals to vote.
You should have to prove you're a citizen at the polls, it's that simple.

A lot of people who all hold state issues ID don't understand what it take to get state issues ID. Yes, you are that retarded.

If voter ID prevents one single fraudulent vote then it's worth it. If you don't agree then you dont support democracy. You're one step away from saying we don't need driver's licenses because black people cant afford them.

>voter ID laws target minority demographics, prove me wrong
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How does it stop them from voting? Are they too stupid to show ID that they already have?

Name one person in this country that doesn't not have an ID! Prove me wrong!!!

If you're to stupid to get I'd you're to stupid to vote.
The potential for fraud is way to high to have people vote without identification proving they're a citizen or not.
>Op your links are faggy and gay.
Why is it the state of California has 29,000+ more people registered to vote than can legally vote? Well sanctuary cities and illegals voting is why.
Illegals voting is an attack on a counties sovereignty. They could flood a area and put their people in above the interests of the actual tax paying citizens.
Then where do those taxes go? The ones the citizens payed for the security of their people, children and county? To Gibbs for illegals.

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Whites are becoming the minority in most places. Most whites can easily vote.
Proved wrong.