>President Donald Trump doesn’t need a wall to stop undocumented immigration along the U.S. southern border, three-time presidential candidate and well-known Libertarian Ron Paul told CNBC on Tuesday.
>Instead, the Trump administration should remove incentives for coming to America, said Paul, who also served 12 terms as a U.S. congressman from Texas, a state that shares 1,254 miles of a common border with Mexico.
>In previous negotiations with Trump, Democrats had agreed to some border wall funding as part of an ultimately scuttled deal to protect the so-called Dreamers, people who were illegally brought to the U.S. as children.
>“I don’t like walls,” Paul added. “I don’t want to wall people in and wall people out.”
It's not just about a wall for today. It's about having a wall in case shit pops off south of the border. How long do you think that might be? 5 years? 10 years? It doesn't make sense to not have a wall.
Caleb Wright
I wonder what a Ron Paul presidency would have been like.
Liam Edwards
> walls mean keeping people in What a fucking retard
>man who wants to abolish 99% of the federal government also doesn't want the federal government to build a wall i fucking love Ron Paul but this isn't news
Matthew Thompson
Tbh shit is going to hit the fan in canada first. Making 40k jobs a year and bring in at least 333k of unskilled immigrant every year is like a first storm to fuck over a country for good. People will have to revolt soon, there wont be enough food and money for everyone, and not even close.
Tyler Edwards
Ron Paul is a kike and nu-pol is retarded for worshiping him.
Jacob Morgan
Aktually, punishment of employers should be more of an issue. Start fining companies $100000 on an escalation scale for every illegal employed. When companies won’t hire them, they have no reason to be here.
Dominic Carter
Civic nationalism and weed, that’s about it
Jack Reyes
Yet states like California keep incentivizing people to come. Ron I love you but we both know that that’s a factor
Christopher Smith
Your right but congress isn’t doing f what we actually need so a wall is good for now
Jayden Long
What was the Berlin Wall ?
Charles Green
Watching in 10-20 years when the Dems exclaim "Mrs Presidente -- TEAR. DOWN. THIS. WALL." will be much more epic, though
we waste a lot of money on all kinds of shit, so I really don't care what happens here.
Jacob Walker
>"I don’t like walls,” Paul added. “I don’t want to wall people in and wall people out.”
Which would be a valid argument if Americans actually wanted to emigrate to other countries. There is nowhere for us to go. The whole planet might as well be a 2nd world shitshow as far as the American is concerned.
Ayden Brown
>What a fucking retard When WW3 happens good luck dodging the draft.
Logan Hall
This. He's basically saying get rid of all the welfare and protections for illegals and you won't need a wall.
Christopher Sanders
kek. right. getting a wall would be easier to do. THEN work on the punishing the fuckers hiring them.
Lucas Howard
You should teach every US state and the feds how to make actual secure prisons.
He's right. Here's a little-known fact. For most of the United States' history, you could come and go across the borders at will. Unless we were at war with either Canada or Mexico. Really, the problem is welfare, minimum wage, and jews. And as long as we have welfare systems in place, we're doomed. Welfare systems like Social Security cause the death of nations. They're scams. They cannot be sustained.
Jordan Barnes
Ron Paul thinks America is based enough to lay land mines across the southern border. If we don't have a physical wall to stop the spics they'll just keep flooding in the average normie is still too cucked to agree that spics should be shot if they try to flood in
Based as fuck and he’s right. Wall is a bandaid job on a cracking bridge.
There’s so much stupidity within US system and many proto-socialist countries with welfare and and benefits and all that shit that inherently makes the country worse by virtue of promoting a runaway inflation system that is doomed unless it gets fed with constant growth.
Evan Hall
I van agree with that. What we really need to do is ruin the businesses who employ illegals. Fine them so heavily that they go bakrupt.
Grayson Campbell
Having said that it's easier to just have the military build a wall than to try and get the commie dems to cut welfare right now
Adrian Hernandez
our assimilation was also more rigorous and oppressive as well. discrimination was part of that process which is now verboten. we're on the multicultural path so looking to the past isn't that useful.
Nathaniel Johnson
He's not wrong. Don't give Paco free welfare, free healthcare, free schools, free housing on the taxpayer's dime and there'll be less leeches coming for gibs. They'll keep on migrating to Canada because the USA isn't a safe country for them to "escape war" from, just like leeches skip Euro countries with shitty welfare to go to GER-MONEY that said, enforce the god damn border. that's literally one of the DUTIES of a country's government--unless that government is occupied entirely by jewish globalist pedo mobsters, like the DNC and their "abolish ice" stance.
Chase Gomez
>Pass laws making it harder for beamers to just run across the boarder >Democrats repeal them all the exact yottosecond they have a chance
Apart from plugging up a realtively easy way for beans to smuggle drugs/people into the country, it also makes it alot harder for Dems to just undo everything. Intentionally letting the wall go to shit or just knocking in down is alot more noticeable and looks worse then quietly repealing any and all bills that stop shitskins from flooding in and voting
Jaxson Morgan
Good. More precedent is always good. My facefag is full of cucked friends and family who sang Macron's praises. I ask roundabout, leading questions to remind them of this, and they know I'm mocking them, but have no response... They still have no idea how to feel about France or the EU in general now. "Y-Y-YAYYYYYY... G-Go protesters..."
Going after the incentives, while being more effective at curbing illegal immigration, would be a much more difficult and time-consuming process than building a literal 2000 mile border wall, not even considering all the (((hand-wringing)))
Isaac Rodriguez
Yep! Ron has beautiful principals but when it comes to pragmatism he falls a lil short
Yeah you only need enough M60s and the ammo for it
Landon Nelson
Fuck yourself I've been shitposting here since Jow Forums was in its infancy. Ron Jow Forums for president nigger.
Wyatt Robinson
Then die you retard.
Kevin Adams
He is right, but a wall wouldn't hurt as well. Why not both?
Colton Reed
I understand his point but in the end of the day being homeless in America is still better than living in some Central America jungle war zone narco state
Jordan Ross
eventually
Connor Thomas
>MFW it will NEVER happen You shitheads don't deserve the title of Libertarian.
I'd just kill whoever came to my door if it wasn't a legit reason. Vietnam ruined the concept of drafts. It's too obviously a form of population control now.
Parker Hill
We had open borders for most of our existence. Open borders are only a problem if you have welfare that poor people from out of town can mooch off of. YOU want a pension, social security, and all that good GIBS bullshit. 99% of people do because they're faggots. Well guess what, faggot? As long as you have any form of welfare, you will have abuse of that system and will lose because of it.
Under a Ron Cuck Paul presidency we would witness mass invasion due to open borders and no limits on H-1B visas. Ron Paul was not the man we thought he was. Total sell out of Americans for foreigners.
All else he sounded pretty good but who can trust him after this cuckery.
Josiah Edwards
sigh
Hunter Long
Exactly. It's the wall AND what Paul is talking about. This problem requires a shotgun approach.
I want welfare for whites who deserve it ONLY. Scandinavia has the highest living standards on the planet and they were doing fine before they opened their borders you mutt. Iceland is still the nicest country I have ever had the privilege of visiting.
Jaxon Hall
>he would be like Trump
Justin Morgan
>and they know I'm mocking them, but have no response... I have a similar situation going on, but my liberal family members know I will kill them as soon as it becomes legal. Happily. I give zero fucks as to why they sold me out. I just want revenge for it when it's legal.
Liam Sanders
Cool story commie. Neck yourself kike shrill.
Joshua Richardson
Ron Paul is a dumbass. Policies change every 4-8 years. You know what doesn't change every 4-8 years? A fucking wall.
Joshua Clark
No he's not right, the idea that ending welfare ends illegall immigration is complete bullshit libertarian talking point
Matthew Mitchell
Harsh penalties for people who employ illegals would be easier and cheaper. Remove all public assistance for them. Prevent them from using public schools. If there is nothing here for them, they will stop coming.
Cameron Myers
>>Instead, the Trump administration should remove incentives for coming to America I'd rather have a wall than America turn into Mexico to keep Mexicans out.
John Sullivan
>Ancap >Commie Wew lad. This is your party, thanks for giving Montana to the dems by the way, very smart.
>Scandinavia has the highest living standards on the planet And a negative birth rate. There's not enough young people to pay for the older people retiring. What do you do?
You see, THIS is why welfare, aka gibs, is destructive. The US is doomed, border/wall or not, as long as social security exists.
Jose Hill
He's right about the benefits though
Still, ask him if he believes we have a country.
Henry Cooper
i actually agree with the democrats that we should be punishing employers who knowingly hire illegals. we still need the wall though
John Powell
He’d be right if we didn’t have birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship fucks everything up because illegals shit out kids like a redneck at KFC and all those kids are Citizens that vote
Nathan Smith
He has his anti government spending shtick, but he understands that a wall saves a lot of money. I bet he'd be ready for a compromise, build the wall first, and then end the welfare state.
If America is safe and prosperous, and Mexico, Guatemala, and Honduras are shitholes, then the worthless spics from the shitholes are going to invade whether they can get welfare or not.
Shut that senile oil boomer the fuck up.
Sebastian Howard
A negative birth rate is not a bad thing. There are 7 billion people on the planet
Josiah Anderson
BUILD THE WALL
Gavin Lopez
Ron Paul is proving himself to be quite myopic. Its a fuck of a lot harder to tear down 2k miles of wall then it is to reverse policy when some fag democrat is in.
Nolan Lewis
He would have put troops on the border which is always funny to read him when he says shit like this; because specifically he's saying the wall won't do shit compared to making life unlivable for illegals. Which is 100% true.
Noah Moore
It's a bad thing when you want welfare. Those old people need someone paying taxes to fund their existence.
Adam Green
exactly, i think we should implement every idea suggested by both sides to solve the problem. and don't try to tell me we can't afford it. the military could do the whole thing with the money left over in their budget every year
Michael Martin
>“I don’t like walls,” Paul added. “I don’t want to wall people in and wall people out.”
This is such a dumb argument, why do you need infinite population growth. Half of the population is still going to generate the same amount of wealth with the rise of automation.
Jackson Price
>Ancap wearing Pinochet's hat
Wasn't Pinochet a statist dictator who frequently used state violence and coercion against his citizens? What's so anarchist about that?
Nicholas Cooper
Stop trying to prolong the life of 90 year olds then, holy shit.
Xavier Powell
why not do both? a wall and remove incentives. in face the money saved from removing the incentives can help build the wall
Isaiah Williams
The wall is not enough. The wall is only part of a solution. It has to be backed by extensive legislation against any nation, employer, ngo, or citizen for helping illegals
Adrian Adams
libertarians are really contradictory with this stuff when they're supposedly all about private property (which is about delineating boundaries)
Julian White
If they passed a law forcing visa workers to be paid the same wages as everyone else, wouldn't that make the incentive to hire them (and bring them in) disappear?
Xavier Rogers
>not wanting to throw commies out of helicopters Cringe and blue-pilled desu.
He's right though. 3 years minimum sentence per head of illegal hired. Let the competition of those who hire illegals do the work for the government. A federal bounty of just $500 per illegal caught would clean up the rest of them through horizontal enforcement of the law. Then build the wall to stop the human trafficking. Ideal solution
''Let's not build a wall because this politically impossible LARP solution is better.'' Nevermind they will come anyway because they are subhuman Spics and they love living near White people.
Jonathan Morgan
He is more concerned about being walled in. I have been following his work for over a decade. He is worried that whatever Trump leaves behind is going to be used by The One, the one who ass fucks us all without remorse.
We got lucky it was only Obama and the drugged out late boomers wanting to relive the 70's. The next one might just succeed in raping us all.
Jack Rivera
>telling individualists they have to identify with retards See here's the problem. You've outed yourself as retarded and you can't avoid that association. I don't have to associate with degenerates/libertine retards, but you have to associate with yourself.
When you have pensioners, you need even more workers to fund their pensions. That's the problem with social security. Why it's a guaranteed failure. To pay for non-working people, you need as many working people, but then you need even more working people to balance it out since the working people ALSO need to pay for their own upkeep.
As long as welfare exists, you MUST have an ever-increasing population. But the irony here is, welfare causes people to have LESS kids, especially by those that work, because more work=less children.
That's the enemy here. And no wall is going to help us. Because the underlying problem is still here.
Brayden Garcia
It's nothing like the Berlin wall, which went through the middle of a city.
Jacob Moore
He's not wrong, but the bennies are never getting taken away so we need a wall in the meantime.
Blake Nelson
ARREST THE FUCKING EMPLOYERS
Brandon Watson
>making life unlivable for illegals
Agreed. A belt of rounds from a 240 would make a spic's life unlivable
for all of his good qualities, RP pushes (((von Mises))) & (((Hayek))) ad nauseum. non-starter.
Thomas Rogers
Americans aren't pissed off enough to demand that sort of prevention. A wall would be a helluva lot more symbolic anyways
Caleb Diaz
fuck fines, execute them. it's treason.
Hunter Stewart
Laws can be changed or ignored. We need a fucking wall.
Jason Turner
>sed a law forcing visa workers to be paid the same wages as everyone else, wouldn't that make the incentive to hire them (and bring them in) disappear? >>> > Anonymous (ID: I1NSNUZg) 01/12/19(Sat)07:13:26 No.199479159▶ >File: Ancap Girl.jpg (124 KB, 1000x1000) > >>not wanting to throw commies out of helicopters >Cringe and blue-pilled desu. >>> > Anonymous (ID: n2K4lWs7) 01/12/19(Sat)07:13:59 No.199479227▶ >File: 1546330421100.jpg (1.1 MB, 1800x1579) >He's right though. 3 years minimum sentence per head of illegal hired. Let the competition of those who hire illegals do the work for the government. >A federal bounty of just $500 per illegal caught would clean up the rest of them through horizontal enforcement of the law. >Then build the wall to stop the human trafficking. Ideal solution >>> > Anonymous (ID: j5ke4cLC) 01/12/19(Sat)07:14:56 No.199479312▶ >''Let's not build a wall because this politically impossible LARP solution is better.'' Nevermind they will come anyway because they are subhuman Spics and they love living near White people. >>> > Anonymous (ID: h9yULevy) 01/12/19(Sat)07:15:29 No.199479358▶ >He is more concerned about being walled in. I have been following his work for over a decade. He is worried that whatever Trump leaves behind is going to be used by The One, the one who ass fucks us all without remorse. >We got lucky it was only Obama and the drugged out late boomers wanting to relive the 70's. The next one might just succeed in raping us all. >>> > WHEN WILL YOU LEARN YOUT ACTIONS HAVEC OSCONESQUENCES
>President Donald Trump doesn’t need a wall to stop undocumented immigration along the U.S. southern border, three-time presidential candidate and well-known Libertarian Ron Paul told CNBC on Tuesday.
>Instead, the Trump administration should remove incentives for coming to America, said Paul, who also served 12 terms as a U.S. congressman from Texas, a state that shares 1,254 miles of a common border with Mexico.
>In previous negotiations with Trump, Democrats had agreed to some border wall funding as part of an ultimately scuttled deal to protect the so-called Dreamers, people who were illegally brought to the U.S. as children.
>“I don’t like walls,” Paul added. “I don’t want to wall people in and wall people out.” >> Anonymous (ID: jV1H7XE8) 01/12/19(Sat)06:35:51 No.199475828▶ It's not just about a wall for today. It's about having a wall in case shit pops off south of the border. How long do you think that might be? 5 years? 10 years? It doesn't make sense to not have a wall. >> Anonymous (ID: vvGuvQZF) 01/12/19(Sat)06:43:48 No.199476588▶ I wonder what a Ron Paul presidency would have been like. >> Anonymous (ID: l/biC9B7) 01/12/19(Sat)06:47:21 No.1994
>428 (OP) >i actually agree with the democrats that we should be punishing employers who knowingly hire illegals. >we still need the wall though >>> > Anonymous (ID: iznGz2IJ) 01/12/19(Sat)07:08:31 No.199478700▶ >He’d be right if we didn’t have birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship fucks everything up because illegals shit out kids like a redneck at KFC and all those kids are Citizens that vote >>> > Anonymous (ID: Xe2wnV3N) 01/12/19(Sat)07:08:42 No.199478716▶ >File: 1545065506910.jpg (133 KB, 794x1024) >He has his anti government spending shtick, but he understands that a wall saves a lot of money. >I bet he'd be ready for a compromise, build the wall first, and then end the welfare state. >>> > Anonymous (ID: 5Audqedk) 01/12/19(Sat)07:08:47 No.199478723▶ > (OP) >What a fucking retard. >If America is safe and prosperous, and Mexico, Guatemala, and Honduras are shitholes, then the worthless spics from the shitholes are going to invade whether they can get welfare or not. >Shut that senile oil boomer the fuck up. >>> > Anonymous (ID: LYFnzxlW) 01/12/19(Sat)07:09:02 No.199478740▶ > >A negative birth rate is not a bad thing. There are 7 billion people on the planet >>> > Anonymous (ID: R5T62vWf) 01/12/19(Sat)07:09:12 No.199478762▶ >BUILD THE WALL >>> > Anonymous (ID: 7yN4fGF0) 01/12/19(Sat)07:09:44 No.199478811▶ > (OP) >Ron Paul is proving himself to be quite myopic. >Its a fuck of a lot harder to tear down 2k miles of wall then it is to reverse policy when some fag democrat is in. >>> > Anonymous (ID: Tdp5Z+E9) 01/12/19(Sat)07:09:47 No.199478814▶ > >He would have put troops on the border which is always funny to read him when he says shit like this; because specifically he's sayi99479159 >
NOT A FUCKING ARGUMENT SCHLOMO
Logan Moore
Aside from the libertarian circles and RT, what authority does Ron Paul even have?
