>Obama shuts down the government for 6 milliseconds Jow Forums: REEEEEE OBAMA IS THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER! HE'S DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY! ONLY A WEAK PRESIDENT IS UNABLE TO GET CONGRESS IN LINE!
>Trump creates the longest shutdown in US history Jow Forums: well obviously it's the democrats' fault even though Trump controlled every branch of government for the last two years. Trump dindu muffin!
Republicans shut down the government over 600 billion dollars. Democrats shut it down over 5.
Wyatt Gomez
It's okay, TARP costed 700b too but we all just shush about it, don't we? :^)
Jonathan Myers
>implying Jow Forums approved of TARP
Jow Forums may not be a hivemind, but I think you'd find TARP polls overwhelmingly negatively here.
Oliver Torres
I don't think it's the cost of the wall/fence/whatever that Democrats are going for, it's that they simply don't want one built. 5b is like nothing compared to the whole budget. Plus McConnell objected to reopening the Government, dragging on the shutdown even further.
Carson White
It doesn't hurt McConnell's base to shut the government down. Rather the opposite, honestly. And why shouldn't the Democrats want a wall built? You wouldn't be saying that Democrats like illegal immigration, right?
Josiah Barnes
Different reasons for shutdown = different scenario's for shutdown = not comparable with past cases where the reason differed
James Williams
I personally believe that a physical barrier would be sort of useless. Dems aren't completely opposed to border security, they just want it more on the technological side of things. Sure, crime and drugs come in, but cartels are smarter to try and fill someone up with drugs, as it's inefficient, and tell them to just cross the border at a random point. Most of drug smuggling happens in ports and points of entry and always has, in most countries. And that's where most attention and funding should be given, whilst not abandoning the length of the border itself. I just find, myself, a wall to be incompetent and outdated. also, >Gov't is shut down over budget issues >Dems try to reopen it >McConnell keeps it shut >"it's the dems fault" Ehh. I've always hated McConnell, ngl.
explain how a wall is useless but some mystery technology will slow people crossing an imaginary line.
Unless you mean automated turrets then I see your point.
Liam Robinson
When the government shut down under Obama everyone knew it was because the senate wouldn't compromise on a budget. It's the same fucking thing here. No one will compromise. It's Nazis on one side and commies on the other.
It's not one person to blame it's the entire bicameral legislative system.
David Cook
That was just the beginning of TARP. Obama presided over the next 15 TRILLION of TARP funds the next 8 years.
Ryder Cook
Tu quoque fallacy. Are you even trying anymore?
Brayden Cox
>It doesn't hurt McConnell's base to shut the government down leave the criminal corporate government closed forever, re seat the constitutional government
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Jaxon Bennett
Wrong. Dems want the border open in order to import new democratic voters.
Nathaniel Phillips
Trump controlled the government? You mean the deep state controlled the government. Their power dwindles daily.
Logan Cruz
How DARE you use Trump's own words against him??
Jordan Campbell
No one chimped out when Obongo shutdown the government.
Parker Cook
Keep the gubmint shut down permanently
Zachary Moore
Yeah, but Republicans worked to get it going again. What are Dems doing?
Christian Murphy
>Yeah, but Republicans worked to get it going again. No, they aren't.
Julian Howard
>refuse to prosecute the bankers >hand trillions of dollars over to ths cabal of bankers who are demonstrably and factually thieves, criminals and immoral lying psychopaths who pulled off the biggest act of jewing the goy that history has ever seen I liked how fast various banking scandals got under-reported/covered up and memoryholed. anyway keep it shut down, maybe people will notice the sky doesn't fall if the feds aren't stealing from your wallet to fill theirs.
So is she saying Obama was a weak president? If you use someone's words against them you have to admit they are true or it's meaningless.
Jose Thomas
a Europoop would never understand what a border is, not when you can bike across their countries in a matter of hours
Julian Ward
you mean it's good faith americans on one side and nazi communists trying to purge the white family from america, on the other side.
Mason Nguyen
user was pointing out hypocrisy, not any fallacies.
Carson Anderson
Most of border security's budget IS towards non-wall things, the issue is allocating 5bil towards the wall.
Easton Davis
Reminder, Obama shut down govt to push through socialism
Christopher Adams
>OBAMA IS THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER! HE'S A TRANNY-FUCKING NIGGER! This is what it was in my timeline
Lucas Turner
>timidly tiptoeing around Drumpf's own words this hard
cry harder little girl
Dominic Nelson
RENT FREE
Jackson Brooks
>i'm a complete nincompoop with zero reading comprehension, the post
Landon Lopez
This place hates George Bush Jr more than you are jealous of America.
Jason Robinson
Sorry, I should say Neocons and their wars for Israel.
Connor Peterson
>George Bush Jr are you retarded or just pretending?
Anthony Long
>Democrats shut it down over 5. In fairness, Trump and the GOP have racked up $2 trillion in new national debt since taking over. I'm a fiscal conservative whose party has left me.