Redpill me on MDMA. Are there benefits apart from temporary fun? Any dangers?

It was literally designed to help terminal patients and soldiers with severe ptsd. It is fantastic at breaking down the mental conditioning and programming that results in many pathological problems like self hatred and depression. It worked so well (((they))) made it super duper illegal while pushing psycho therapy and antidepressants that make you want to kill yourself and turn you into a zombie. Also some people abuse the substance indiscriminately, like every other medication in the world which triggers pharmajews and nofunallowed underage faggots.

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What if you have self control. And only do as much as you need a couple of times a year? Just making it less likely to get depression in the future?

>t. bong daily user

You know that mummy and daddy will bust you when you get home from the club.

Just start a new hobby and stay away from drugs.

I wouldn't advise doing it more than a couple of times. It can be a little illuminating in that it allows you experience extreme joy followed by extreme depression a few days later.

If you plan on doing LSD It's fun to do it with mdma and means you'll have an excellent trip.

Research harm reduction. Pre and post-care. Understand the situations you want to use the substance for. Whether that's for fun, intimacy, or addressing personal issues. You can get testing kits online and you can get the substance tested in a lab from a group like energy control. If you are in such a hurry that you cannot wait for/pay for the lab test you might want to reconsider your motives.

operah said it makes holes in the brain.

and she never lies, especially about having unwanted sex with her uncle as a teen.

Also my mates did it 4 days in a row over new years, redosing each night, and do it once a month or so. How fucked are they? I did it once for the new years before you give me shit

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Theres no rush for me. Intended for recreational use. Have bought those over the counter kits for testing

drugs are bad. don't do drugs.

Another good side effect is it heats the brain, so if you take too much you die. It fucks up your teeth and messes with your intestines. And no they didn't ban it because "it worked too well" they banned it because people ODed on it.

how do you know you didn't have depression before taking it?
You may have been predisposed to depression anyways.

MDMA has been clinically proven to cure PTSD, and depression.

it heats your whole body, just drinking water should be good

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>they banned it because people od on it
>this is why alchohol and opiods are legal cause no one can ever od on them
Great argument you have there pharmajew

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Your Friends are braindead fucking retards. At this point they have all-ready made permanent damage to their receptors.

As long as you only do it once every third month you should be able to avoid any trouble. Also make sure to eat lot's of fruit the next day

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Then you have time for a lab result on the substance as well. Are you also prepared if the substance is cut with something harmful or with a low understanding of contraindications? My advice would be to source a pure product, learn to clean it further (acetone wash), and use a lab. Once you have a good source you can purchase and wash up a large enough amount to last for a decade with a couple of experiences a year. You also have time to research what is being said by actual drug researches. Plenty of groups for this that are active and public. Start with maps.org.

>they never banned alcohol
Read up on your recent history and tell me what happened.
>opioids are legal
If you have a prescription

>just drink water
We're giving an Aussie the advice to drink water now? What rock did you crawl under from?

neurotoxic, steer clear

youre main argument was simply wrong
I corrected it

Pretty sketched out if I have to send it in the mail. Will look into if local labs will provide such a service

It is fun a couple times but you lose the magic and it's never the same again. Fun to combine with shrooms or LSD though

Only difference with drug and medicine is the dosage. your argument is invalid pharmajew

Tfw used it 5 times, never had feelings of depression the following day. Just to make sure I take 5htp long after I dosed

Not really unless the dealer has cut the pill with something bad.

MDMA floods your brain with serotonin and affect receptors that boost the natural neurochemical. That why you get high. But it also depletes seratonin in the short term, which is why you crash for a few days after. Some people say taking seratonin precursors like 5-HTP and vitamin B help. neurotoxicity is a matter of debate. But common sense is that if you’re taking it a lot, it’s not the best thing for your brain. I’d treat MDMA like champagne... save it for special occasions. Switch it out with mushroom.

More importantly, watch out for psychological dependence. If you can’t have a good time without chemicals or booze, lay off It for a while. Let your brain heal/reset.

Good advice on maps. But SWIM knows an acetone wash wont clean additives like amphetamines. Always a good idea to roll with a partner who’s sober ...

If you keep doing it you will have permanent depression when you are older. Nobody is talking about next day side effects.

Personally would never buy pills. Don't know how much is exactly in them

this guy knows candy-flipping.

No it wasn't, it heats up the brain and rest of the body but I never heard of an mdma overdose where the body was overheated but the brain still functioning normally.

Incorrect, the main difference is quality and consistency of quality, your 1g of mdma might be pure shit the next one high concentration, this won't happen with medication.

Depends on your mental stability.

It’s relatively harmless. Makes you a happy idiot, it makes you a temporary literal brainlet. Afterwards it makes you feel blackpilled for a bit.

The problem is that once you open that door, it’ll be never be closed. The option will always be there. And the more often you do it, the harder it will be to not do it. The risk is potentially ending up a degenerate junkie.

Tried it once - years ago. Not sure how much was in the capsule I took. It didn't look like much. Was an interesting experience. I won't do it again, shrooms was much better.

>citation needed
That would only be the case for people who really really abuse it

Completely normie tier. Also feels like meth overdose mixed with confusion and visuals of a high fever.

"I can quit at anytime!" LOL. Next thing you know you are fucked.

>mdma
>stronger than meth

America, everybody

You can mail it anonymously and get your results electronically through TOR. Contact the group (through protonmail or something) and ask them about the steps you need to take. Pretty simple just get started. Treat this like a hobby and put in the time for it.

>But SWIM knows an acetone wash wont clean additives like amphetamines.
there's a lot of things SWIM should know that SWIM doesn't but this isn't a drug forum it's a shill dumping ground

one of my friends from high school used to takebit all the time
he developed microfissures in his brain and is a shadow of his former self. he pretty much became a character from a scanner darkly

To be fair mbma isn't that addictive.

Well I stated it before in the thread all depends on quality, and yeah I know you can get it tested in the club but that's not the case everywhere.

9/10 rats that took it, have prostate cancer

Ive done them all fresh breath. Every single one of them. Its booty.

...what? What are you taking about? What are your assumptions you made off an anonymous post? Congrats you sound like an idiot

Loose molly is a meme. It’s not pure MDMA, just the same mix of MDMA and fillers (including sometimes meth etc) that would be pressed in a pill. The thing about MDMA is that’s a threshold drug. One you get reach a dosage that triggers seratonin release, it happens, you rush. Taking more MDMA doesn’t significantly increase seratonin release. After three or four hours, after your body has excreted mdma (thanks to the water you should be drinking in moderation to hydrate ... BUT NEVER IN EXCESS), you can take another dose to boost.

Loose molly just makes it harder to dose. People are really bad measuring, especially when they’re high.

>every third month

>The option will always be there. And the more often you do it, the harder it will be to not do it.

yes

Do it very occasionally and it's good fun and can teach you what life is like without anxiety. Just be prepared to pay the cost for it after the effects wear off.

Drugs are fun but always come at a cost. Eventually you should grow out of it and realise that it's better to find happiness without paying for it.

Most drugs are fine if you sparingly use them and treat is as some kind of holiday (especially hallucinogenics), but at the end of the day they're a very cheap and unfulfilling way to enjoy or distract yourself. Better to improve the baseline of your life than chase peaks and suffer the troughs.

Depends on the user

it will turn you into an effeminate man in time and might lead you to some gay behavior

it's big around gays (just like AIDS), so you might get abused while you are in a vulnerable state

say no to faggotry

>To be fair mbma isn't that addictive.

It's not addictive at all actually. Like LSD, the effects diminish over time so that the user eventually quits the drug because it no longer provides a pleasant experience.

My endgame with ecstasy came when I dropped $300 on 10 pills for a girl and myself. She did one and was totally blissed-out all night. I did 9 and mostly I just felt drunk. Never bothered with it again.

People can have hallucinations or get overheated or dehydrated from it. Those are the short term effects on a healthy person. It's very dangerous for people with psychiatric issues, hypertension, diabetes, heart disease, liver issues, epilepsy, or some other issues are at serious risk if they use it.

are you cooked, cunt?

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>9 pills
Damn user

It doesn't cure depression you fucking idiot
They keep you on a low dosis of MDMA to make you feel better.
In the end it doesn't do shit.

Nothing quite like getting horny out of your mind coming up with your mates, teaches you a lot about how flexible sexualities can be.

this

mdma is a stimulant, not a psychedelic

user i...

Dosis isn't a word lol

meant for

Just being honest. Drugs are degenerate as fuck so don't know why degenerate behaviour on them would be surprising.

Also stims are for sex anyway it make your cock small and it takes you ages to orgasm.

mdma is like alcohol without the short term side effect. Long term it allegedly damages your brain.

Dose*
Dosis is the Dutch version of dose so it actually IS a word.

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>in a controlled laboratory setting
Wow... Where do you party?

its a fucking weird drug makes you feel like some loved up hippy horny as fuck. and when it wears of you will crash hard

I agree lol. My experience with amphetamines is: 1 hour of creative work, 8 hours of edging to porn. Masturbating feels so good on stims that you don't bear to ejaculate, because it would mean the end of the session.

>read up on history
Prohibition lasted a few years and was repealed and now alcohol is heavily advertised in the media even though alcohol-related deaths are a huge problem
>you need a prescription
You dont say? Whats stopping mdma from being sold with a prescription when it is much less harmful than giving pharma cocktails to people? Your arguments are shit and you are a faggot

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Most MDMA on the street is synthetic coke or just straight up meth. If you want to feel happy and euphoric smoke a j or drink some liquor or better yet go for a jog.

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Only use it once every 2 or 3 months. Take shrooms once every 6 months in good doses, and every 3-4 days for microdoses.

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shit for sex* obviously
Mandy, speed and coke are all pretty similar. Mandy and coke probably make you most horny but sex takes a fuckload of effort. Feels like a really intense effort if you can finish though.

I tried having sex on acid once and I ended up just getting distracted but I can imagine that would probably feel better than a stim.
>alcohol
>happy or euphoric
?????????

Oh you meant legalising it, which implies pharmaceutical companies making it, ensuring quality and consistency. Well sure, didn't know you were for it.

i did it a few times and it was ok but i don't like the fake emotions

In a hotter place than a lab?
Still, doesn't change the fact that it changes the body temperature, not the brain.

Do it once for sure and if you continue use wait an entire year.

T. Lost the magic from rolling too often

>Any dangers
Yeah, plenty. You should only get from a trusted source and remember to stay hydrated if you go out partying.
It's also extremely taxing on your body and your liver/kidneys especially so dont do it often.
It is fun though, I've only done it a couple of times.

Personally I would only do MDMA if I personally made it, as drugs these days are stomped with all kinds of shit.

Very easy to make though.

Burns out the serotonin receptors and makes the rest of your life from mid twenties till death hollow. Thinks that's what's behind the whole "free spirited traveler" bullshit. Running half way across the world trying to feel happy again because they can't feel it anymore.

People only die when they consume alcohol while on it and not drinking water.

Well aware it can still be cut. At least i can get some measure of how much of I am ingesting

where the fuck are you getting this bullshit

It's a drug you fucking mongrel. Stop doing them and do something useful for once.

Its shit, take LSD, shrooms and weed.

Nice pilpul faggot please shill more against it while defending alcohol and opiods in the same sentence.

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Many permissive factors have been shown to enhance the thermogenic effects of MDMA, typically in preclinical studies, and have been summarized with regard to human MDMA use. Factors that increase the risk of MDMA-induced hyperthermia in animals and possibly also in humans include multiple dosing (booster) or high doses, high ambient temperature, reduced fluid intake, crowded conditions, physical activity, and social interaction. Several of these risk factors are typically present in dance clubs or party settings where MDMA and other stimulant drugs are consumed. Hyperthermia is also seen in human MDMA exposure outside “rave” party settings in the absence of physical activity.In placebo-controlled laboratory studies in humans, these conditions are mostly not present for safety reasons. In real-world studies of ecstasy users at dance clubs, increases in tympanic body temperature of +0.2 to +1.6°C have been measured in response to Ecstasy use.

And I already said it increases the body temp not only the brain (so I'll stand corrected there).

And the rest of the conclusion :

The MDMA-induced elevations in body temperature in humans appear to depend on the MDMA-induced release of norepinephrine and involve cutaneous vasoconstriction and likely also enhanced metabolic heat generation.

But I'll give it to you apparently mdma isn't the killer but the setting you are in might do the rest (assuming you don't do mdma at home alone)

>I can be your angle
As in being obtuse?

>use testing kits
>small doses
>max use 4x a year (quarterly)
>hydrate
>healthy balanced diet
>enjoy in a safe clean environment
>with educated, moral people

There. Now go and enjoy safely.

Ok keep doing it because you haven't seen a citation. Fucking dipshit

do it once at max every few months and listen to some good tunes over at the /mu/ /bleep/ general, you wont regret it

M user here AMA

>But it also depletes seratonin in the short term, which is why you crash for a few days after.
Stay in bed and eat well.

>Some people say taking seratonin precursors like 5-HTP and vitamin B help
take afterwards, not before.

Good advice.

i did it a few times, it was alot of fun. i just remember talkng to people non stop and everything they said was completely facinating and i wanted to know everything about them. but yep the comedown is hard but i have had no long term issues.

I'm not shilling against it, I'm pointing out there are risks and those risks increase when it's made by some home cooking retards.

I did half a pilly for my first time a long while ago and I had a fantastic night and literally no side effects

Use psychedelics instead. Whatever benefits MDMA might have, the risks make using it a net negative

I've done it enough, it's fun but always be mindful of the risk involved. That being said it's your life and your body. You only have one so just go easy at it.