Is it possible for me to find a bf that doesn't watch porn?

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bcs you wont have sex with him when he wants stfu, also sometimes a good wank is better than sex we men need sometimes time for ourselves

>i want my bf not to masturbate

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>1) look like pic related

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You want a tan long haired girly boy with a hat?

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This is just like when guys say they want their gf to be a virgin. You're right to want it but crazy if you think it's reasonable at your age.

You have to be better than porn if you want your bf to prefer you over porn.

I quit porn when my gf started putting out every day.

Maybe, there are some guys who seem really straight (wake up early, walk the dogs, go to work, etc, sleep early).

My solution is to just not put it in my gf's face. She wanted to get rid of it but she looks at it herself, and besides she needs to be able to find kinky gifs and send them to me like "can we do that". As long as I don't send anything back she doesn't get insecure.

You do realize that people would find you absolutely fuckable by that description precisely because of porn?

I think most guys drop porn when they have someone that they're sexually active with.
I mean "really" active too. Once a day, minimum. When you can let the shame and the disingenuous social games that people play, and indulge in being the wild animal you are with someone that embraces that eagerly, porn just doesn't compare.

If variety becomes needed at some point, that's what slutty lingerie and roleplaying is for. There really doesn't need to be too much of that though. A single woman can be plenty fascinating in her own right.

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I'd be down for a gf like that, but she'd have to be willing to go for at least once a day, probably two on average.

>This is just like when guys say they want their gf to be a virgin. You're right to want it but crazy if you think it's reasonable at your age.

Boom. This

There's lots of guys who never watch porn. But still, they still fantasize about other women. Is that something you're comfortable with OP? If so, why?

>There's lots of guys who never watch porn

There really isn't
There was this research being done on effects of porn. The scientists literally could not find a control group (ie guys that don't watch porn).

If he's a male, under 40, and has an internet connection, he watches porn. Only material variability is if he's not single - otherwise, end of story.

Sex is too much work most of the time. I want to just get off with no muss, no fuss, and spend no more than 20 minutes doing it. Sex involves making you feel good in most cases. Or waking you up, or dealing with the fact you're on your period, or that you're at work.

It's a stupid request.

I know the study you're referring to and the issue is that they couldn't find any guys that had NEVER watched porn. Hell, I would assume a large majority (~75%) of women under 30 have watched porn at least once in their lives. Like one of the other people said, I think plenty of men either entirely stop or greatly reduced their consumption of porn once they get in a relationship.

Low T faggot desu

>this thread again

Why would you ask him to do such a thing? You're degenerate by being here, so you obviously must accept porn as much as he does.

Also, most often
>men either entirely stop or greatly reduced their consumption of porn once they get in a relationship.

This is best post in the thread
Well, I have friends that claim they don't watch porn. They may be liars, I'll admit.

>girl who's willing to have sex with him as much as he wants
Let me guess. You'll fuck with him once or twice in a week and then every time he wants to fuck you'll start bitching about "he being obssesed with sex".

Who's joining me in the no-porn group?

Can the guy just not watch porn or does he also have the reason being because it's degenerate and makes you insecure?

How much sex are you willing to have? What were your previous relationships like? I'm of the mentality that life here on earth is finite so I have a limited number of erections left and I don't want to waste any more of them. But if you are saying as much as the guy wants you better be prepared for twice a day and heavier on weekends or free days.

>"decently attractive skinny conservative girl who's willing to have sex with him as much as he wants"
>having premarital sex
Stfu degenerate
Young girl wants boyfriend to not watch porn, calls herself conservative yet wants to have lots of sterile sex. Sad!

>I WANT A BF THAT DOESN'T WATCH PORN!
Stupid woman, thats like a guy asking for a 9/10 woman who is loyal, conservative, and most importantly a virgin. They are few and far between

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>we never got to see Zero Two and Hiro engage in violent Oni sex
Someone needs to make this happen.

If you offer sex when every he needs it he won’t watch porn.

How good are you at sex because my hand is better than must girls.

I don't watch porn when i'm in a relationship. I just don't need it. Even if i don't have sex one day, i jerk off to a mix of memories and daydreaming of the next time we'll have sex.

i dont masturbate at all, i have tried and failed on numerous occasions and its not like my dick doesnt work its just a psychological problem that i cant seem to fix

visible lust is healthy, stored up lust like me makes you feel like you're unwanted by the world 24/7, ive never understood the logic behind nofap either i would love to not care

i dont understand why youd want to go for the deranged and emotionally needy option

Is it possible for you to have realistic standards?

you assume that your own subjective experience is the baseline for all humans.
it's not.
men have it much harder in terms of sex, for men sex is locked behind multiple filters and random chances, while you can easily get sex and even a relationship just by not being fat and having basic hygiene.
at least 80% of men need porn to cope with the unbalanced sexual market, but even high value males still consume pornography because even they can't satisfy their sexual desires as easily as an average woman.

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I don't understand why some of you girls have this fixation over bfs watching porn

1) you probably won't be able to be sexually available for him as much as he wants to if he has high libido
2) sex and masturbation are two different type of pleasure
3) i still don't understand why feel insecure. Yes, he's jacking off over other and beautiful girls, but it's fiction. Try to think about the fact that usually there are muscular and very well endowed men as well in porn scenes, and men still don't get insecure
4) if anything i would be aroused knowing that my gf would sometimes watch porn. My ex did, my current gf don't, desu

Tl;dr

As long as he doesn't turn real sex down because of porn, leave your future alone

*Your future bf

Not op, but I'm just plain old insecure and expect my bf to accept that fault of mine.
1) Is it really too much to ask a guy to not fiddle with his dick for a while between nights together? I mean, if you know you're going to have sex in the foreseeable future, why not hold out a bit?
2) Agreed. One is fun and is about us as a couple, and the other is masturbation.
3) For sure there are lots of people who can handle insecurity better than I do. Maybe it's possible for other girls to not get insecure about it, but I can't help but feel bad. The fact that it's fiction makes it worse to me somehow.
4) I don't get how having a gf that watches porn is arousing. Wouldn't a girl that doesn't watch porn and exclusively wants to have sex with you be the more arousing option?

This and
Inb4 some moron uses a study that men have more sexual partners than females because the study relies on homosexuals.

1) yes it is too much to ask. You being insecure shouldnt control your Boy friends life, get therapy.
2)skip
3) why? Why the hell does something not real affect you so much? Sounds like you have controlling issues.
4) because she likes sex. Means she is open to other things and men dont have to constantly check if its ok to watch porn.

>is it possible
yes
but it would be more realistic to find a guy who doesn't watch porn while he's in a relationship instead of not at all

How to be a selfish controling girl.
Ladies take note, this is how you lose men.
You want something real, stop expecting a man to have you the center of his world.

But why is it too much to ask? How available would I have to make myself just to stop a guy from feeling the need to jack off to other women on the internet constantly?
It's my one big hang up. It's the one thing I feel irrationally strongly about. Why wouldn't a guy be able to accept that and humor me since I don't judge their lifestyle in any other major way? It's controlling, yeah, but it's such a small thing why can't I have just that?
I like sex. And I like when a guy likes sex with me. If a guy would rather spend his free time pleasuring himself rather than looking forward to having sex together like I would, that's a negative to me.

I'm , and i basically think the same of .

You're using your personal insecurities to try to manipulate the sexual sphere of another person. You are basically saying: "since I don't like it and get insecure about it, YOU can't watch it as well".
To respond to your question, like the other guy said knowing that my gf watches porn arouses me because i know she has high libido like me and is open minded. She probably likes to try new things, like something she saw in that video, for example.
With my ex sometimes we even watched porn together, or better sometime we STARTED watching porn together and we always ended up having sex

How to be my gf:

1. Don't tell me to not watch porn or try in any way to control what I do by myself

Usually people like you are the most degenerate.
Every fucking time I find someone who nags like you ends up being a complete closet whore, it's fucking annoying.

To answer the question, no anyway, if we don't fap we wet the fucking bed.

It's really the idea that he's getting off to other women that bothers me. What if I offered to be on-call 24/7 for him, or asked him to only watch porn that we made together when he feels that urge? Would that be equally controlling and unreasonable? I don't want to stop him from feeling good, satisfying a need, or having control over his life. I just don't want him constantly thinking about the infinite pool of better women out there in that context.

I once every two days but my love on goes for my girlfriend, and she's the one who turns me on for real.
I love her so much and I'd like to be with her forever, hopefully there will be that occasion.

So does the simple fact that your boyfriend will always be sexually attracted to other women not bother you? It's just when he touches himself why thinking about them you have a problem with?

I wrote it before, but maybe not clear enough.

He's not watching other girls. He's watching other girls being fucked by other men.
It's fantasy, like when you watch a comedy, a romance, or an action movie.

Would be the same for you if, instead to watch your next episode, you watched the holiday video you made with your bf?

>But why is it too much to ask? How available would I have to make myself just to stop a guy from feeling the need to jack off to other women on the internet constantly?
Because the feeling of arousal isnt something a man controls.
He can control his actions, he can control what he is looking at, but the actual feeling of arousal is uncontrolable and just happens.
Ask your self something. When something iches do you not scratch it?
Men know they cant get with the woman that looks like that in porn BUT porn does not mean we have an emotional connection to it. Love and lust are 2 different things. The feeling of sexual arousal isnt something we choose, its something that builds up to frustration. If you want him to stop looking at porn get used to being looked at as a sexual object and not a gf.
>Why wouldn't a guy be able to accept that and humor me since I don't judge their lifestyle in any other major way?
But you are, you are basing your relationship on this and thats being judgemental in a very big way.
>It's controlling, yeah, but it's such a small thing why can't I have just that?
Because you have so much already. You have a BF to comfort you to love you to be your rock. Its really "spoiled" I am sorry
to say and all you are doing in this relationship is taking and not giving. You arent thinking how the bf feels you are just thinking how you feel. Remeber we guys are people too, a d being controling like this is making us less of a person and more like a trained pet.
>I like sex. And I like when a guy likes sex with me. If a guy would rather spend his free time pleasuring himself rather than looking forward to having sex together like I would.
Because you dont want to have sex as much as we do. Your sexual drive isnt hitting you constantly, often times you get into a fight or you are not up to it or you just dont want to.
Thats why we go to porn, we dont work on your sexual convience.

>What if I offered to be on-call 24/7 for him
But you wont. And you will make excuses not to. Basically you what you are asking for him to do is the opposite of what you are saying here>I don't want to stop him from feeling good, satisfying a need, or having control over his life.
You are controling his way of thinking. Thats the problem. That means you dont love him.

I wish more men were like you

I wish more women were less like you.

I don't mind if he thinks other girls are attractive, I know there are plenty of cuter women out there.
But I want him to rely on me when it comes to being sexually satisfied. If he spends more time looking at women online, it feels like it proves I'm not good enough. Or at least not enough for him in general.
Are you saying guys don't self-insert when they watch porn?
I don't understand your last question.
I don't want to treat a guy like a pet.
Maybe I just fundamentally don't understand male sexuality. I get sexually pent up from time to time, and I can fix it without looking at random guys online. Is sex seriously on a guy's mind 24/7 like it seems everyone is implying? Does it really need to be kept fresh daily to prevent a guy from getting sexually bored? I thought it was hyperbole. Like a joke that it's a daily primary motivator on par with eating and sleeping for men.
Controlling his way of thinking isn't my intention either. But I guess that's what it boils down to in the end. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't love him.

>Why can't guys be happy with a decently attractive skinny conservative girl who's willing to have sex with him as much as he wants?
Is this fucking bait?

>Maybe I just fundamentally don't understand male sexuality. I get sexually pent up from time to time, and I can fix it without looking at random guys online.
And you are asking for a guy not to do this for himself?
>Is sex seriously on a guy's mind 24/7 like it seems everyone is implying? Does it really need to be kept fresh daily to prevent a guy from getting sexually bored?
Its a reaction, like being around a flower you are allergic to and you sneeze as a result. Only the flower is a woman who dress and smells nice and the sneeze is arousal. If you purposly stimulate something you will get an arousal response. Our sexual arousal is pretty fucking strong its just men vary in different ways on how we deal with it.
And if you are controling how he thinks then you dont love him, you love the idea of controling him.

I wish.

Truth be told after reading all this.
You are only going to get guys who will put up with your hypocrasy because of fear of dying alone.
What i can tell, you dont deserve a good man because you arent a good person. I am not a good person but jesus fuck i would never tell a girl she couldnt do something because it made me jealous.
When did women get so entitled and act like we guys owe them something.

When I say fix it, I mean I acknowledge that it's a thing that's messing with my priorities and eventually take care of it solo if need be. I just would prefer if a guy could do that too, without needing to pull up porn, where he's going to be actively sifting through hundreds of prettier women to find the perfect one to get him off rather than thinking of me or just sex as an idea on its own.

I get the arousal concept, the allergies and sneezing metaphor is good. I get aroused when I don't necessarily want to, too, but I can hold it in easily enough that I never feel like I'm completely forced to "sneeze". And when I do "sneeze", I don't need any tricks or other stimuli to make it happen besides my own physical stimulation. A guy feeling forced to jack off to porn when aroused is equivalent to someone needing to take a feather and tickle their nose to sneeze when they could just let nature take its coirse and either have it pass or sneeze on their own.
And about the whole judging love thing, I can't imagine a relationship where either side doesn't have preferences on how the other person processes and reacts to certain things. I'm not saying I could never care about a guy who jacks off to porn. I'm saying I'd greatly prefer otherwise.

I never said I deserved anything, and I certainly never claimed to be a good person. I have a preference that apparently is innately unreasonable, and it really sucks.

The thing is, a lot of guys are willing to give up porn because it is degenerate (although porn is not just one thing), but a lot of people don't have another option.
We have a shitty contract between the supplier and the delivery system of semen and we get frustrated if we can't get it out there.
Porn makes masturbating easier which makes it easier to manage.
But once you are in a relationship, sure, I can easily give it up, it is not like I am addicted to it. But when I am single and nobody cares about me, I won't abide by your silly rules.

me

>When I say fix it, I mean I acknowledge that it's a thing that's messing with my priorities and eventually take care of it solo if need be. I just would prefer if a guy could do that too, without needing to pull up porn, where he's going to be actively sifting through hundreds of prettier women to find the perfect one to get him off rather than thinking of me or just sex as an idea on its own.
See you did it again, you say you need to fix it with out using porn. Like you tell a guy to hammer in a nail with out a hammer. Thats not how it works. If you are insecure ita not your BF's fault its yours. You need to get some therapy. Because you have no right to tell him not to use porn when you do for your urges.
>guy feeling forced to jack off to porn when aroused is equivalent to someone needing to take a feather and tickle their nose to sneeze when they could just let nature take its coirse and either have it pass or sneeze on their own.
Nature doesnt always work, to "sneeze" he may need to use that feather. He isnt you. Your perception is different than his, so why would you expect him to do what you do just becausecit works for you?
Your problem is that you have no actual empathy or understanding of why a guy does what he does and you make it about yourself and how it hurts you.

>And about the whole judging love thing, I can't imagine a relationship where either side doesn't have preferences on how the other person processes and reacts to certain things. I'm not saying I could never care about a guy who jacks off to porn. I'm saying I'd greatly prefer otherwise.
Because you cant put your prefrences into people. Thats not love. Love is liking the person as they are, not changing them into something they arent.

Laughing at the people who think fapping to porn is an essential part of who they are. That's part of addiction, feeling like you need it to get off. If you're in a relationship and you're still fapping to porn there is something seriously wrong.

Is porn really the hammer to the nail? Is it that hard to get off without the stimuli of porn? I'm not telling anyone to do anything in the end. I'm saying I'd prefer he do something differently. And am I not allowed to have insecurities just because they affect my preferences? I'm not perfect and I'm not expecting perfection, so why are you making me out to be such a monster? Also, I never said I watch porn, because I don't.

No, he isn't me, and if it's really true that guys NEED porn to sexually satisfy themselves then I really am being unreasonable. I can empathize with emotions, not sex drives. Just because I don't understand the sexual motivations of men doesn't mean I can't have opinions about it. I can only say how him watching porn makes me feel, I'm not making blanket statements attacking all guys who watch porn.

Once again, I'm not asking a guy to change. I'm not imposing my preferences on people. I'm stating how I feel and that's IT. You make it sound like I'm some evil oppressor of male sexuality who needs to mold men into some perfect partners. I'm just saying I'd be happiest with a guy who only has eyes for me. That's it. I could love a guy regardless of his porn habits. But I still would prefer if he didn't look at porn. Those aren't exclusive.

Jesus this thread. Porn addicts are easily offended.

I like your feather metaphor it's a bit like that

To explain this we gotta go back to first boners and first orgasms, they mostly come from being tempted by a stimulating inage or video

The more you use images and videos (the thing that introduced you to fapping) the more severe details you require to get off (specific fetishes and such)

In other words you could compare it to an alcohol addiction where heavy alcoholics need more and stronger stuff to get drunk

That and adding the fact that most of us start at young age makes it pretty damn hard to find a man who doesn't use it

But about the other thing you worry about shouldn't bother you
We don't get off on certain girls, we get off on the hornyness of the situation

To use a metaphor you don't self insert into rachel when watching friends to laugh, you laugh because of the funnyness

So it's essentially an addiction. It's okay to prefer a partner that isn't addicted to something you don't like, right?
But if that's really true, I feel bad for guys who become so reliant on porn. It seems like a curse. I completely understand needing to satisfy a fetish to get off because of desensitization, but needing to watch someone else do it rather than do it to yourself or just think about it seems so restrictive.
>We don't get off on certain girls
But you filter porn based on the girls you want to see that you like, right? That makes it dependent on certain girls who have those traits.
That metaphor actually made some sense though, thanks.

>Is porn really the hammer to the nail? Is it that hard to get off without the stimuli of porn? I'm not telling anyone to do anything in the end. I'm saying I'd prefer he do something differently. And am I not allowed to have insecurities just because they affect my preferences? I'm not perfect and I'm not expecting perfection, so why are you making me out to be such a monster? Also, I never said I watch porn, because I don't.
Main because its not enough, we get stimulated faster and women keep uping eachother in looks.
You arent a monster but you are totally unreasonable and unrational. >No, he isn't me, and if it's really true that guys NEED porn to sexually satisfy themselves then I really am being unreasonable. I can empathize with emotions, not sex drives. Just because I don't understand the sexual motivations of men doesn't mean I can't have opinions about it.
Ok I am sorry, you can have an opinion on it but its a very unfair one. You are setting a standard to where you are making men bend over backwards to match your emotional wants. Everything you said was about you and not, why do men do this?, kind of thing. The reason i came off cross or made you feel like a monster is because such thinking like that is monstrous to me. Its because you treat men like they should be at your emotional whims and if there is something you dont like that, really doesnt affect you if they kept it a secret, you feel insecure about it. You make it all about you when its just for guys to help get rid of those negativr feelings of lust. Yes some guys need porn, and nor just 1 type of porn, thats why there are fetishes. You are taking away sexual freedom for the sake of your own insecurities.

>I'm not imposing my preferences on people. I'm stating how I feel and that's IT. You make it sound like I'm some evil oppressor of male sexuality who needs to mold men into some perfect partners. I'm just saying I'd be happiest with a guy who only has eyes for me. That's it.
You dont see how thats insulting?

Ok let me try some thing similar.
>be me
>moderatly attractive male
My girlfriend is constantly hitting on other guys around me. She dresses to show off off her body and has tons of guy friends. What does that say to you about being an independent woman?

Not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.
Not everyone who gambles has a gambling problem.
Not everyone who watches porn is a porn addict.

>I feel bad for guys who become so reliant on porn.
Well having high standards coming from women will do that to you.

I get that asking a guy to put up with a preference based on my insecurities is asking a lot. It's not fair if I don't give and only take. I have that one big hangup about porn that I've never been able to get over. I've tried, but it just cuts deep and I can't help but feel inadequate. Other than that, I'm not judgey.
I feel bad that it may alienate some guys. But I don't express my opinion to hurt anyone or make them feel compelled to change for me. I'm just being honest with myself and with them. I'd hope that a guy who likes me would tell me if I did things he has trouble getting over. It'd let me know if they had any hangups too.

>I'm just being honest with myself and with them.
You see being honest they way you are doing is only helping you. Its only making you feel better. Its not helping anyone else but you.
I get that you are insecure, but its your problem and shouldnt be the guys. Think of it this way;
Think of what men have done for you. Out if kindness or dating or what have you and appreciate that. Realize they are their own person and deserve things like porn to help cope when you arent there. Becuase where i stand you dont appreciate men for what they have done for you already.

No, I don't see how having preferences is insulting. I don't mean to be insulting,if that's how it comes across.
About your situation, it sounds like she isn't interested in monogamy if she's hitting on other guys. It's a preference for most people that their partner be monogamous, though, so I could see how her actions could be a negative to you. I get that, at least.

How so?

To stay with the metaphor
If you don't like the actor you probably won't like his show

Time is valuable so we prefer to watch stuff that matches our interest no matter what kind of reasson you watch it for (fun drama sex)

And don't feel sorry, if we wana quit it's possible, but like any addiction it's tough, don't force someone to quit they need to start doing it on their own intent

Same goes for alcoholics and smokers

And in a lot of times men stop fapping once entering a relationship but they'll resume once the new comes off

It's only natural

That's right. But people who prefer fapping to porn over actual sex, can't go a week without watching porn, have to watch porn even when in a relationship, become crazy and aggressive from not watching porn ARE porn addicts.

That makes no sense though. Expressing an opinion with no expectation that it influence anything can't be selfish. It's literally just stating something.
>Think of what men have done for you. Out if kindness or dating or what have you and appreciate that.
What? Are you implying that, just because a guy I like is willing to date me or be nice to me, I should hide my feelings and insecurities from them and just bottle them up?

I get where you're coming from, at least sorta. But there has to be some level of comparison and judgement between the women a guy sees in porn and his girlfriend, right? That's what tears me up. I'll never be a porn star to him, and the thought that, given the chance, he'd choose her over me in a heartbeat is scary.

>No, I don't see how having preferences is insulting. I don't mean to be insulting,if that's how it comes across.
>About your situation, it sounds like she isn't interested in monogamy if she's hitting on other guys. It's a preference for most people that their partner be monogamous, though, so I could see how her actions could be a negative to you. I get that, at least.
I was using that as a hypothical. And acting ignorant to how it is insulting by saying "i dont think it was insulting" IS INSULTING!
When you feel insecure you never realize your actions of saying it out loud makes guys feel insecure. And its a habit that you wont ever even know or harm you in the least. If anything you are making yourself insecure all on your own and you want some one to blame.

>How so?
Because every guy does and the ones who say they dont is lying.
If you want honesty in a relation ship know you are going to find out things that you dont like. You can open pandoras box and expect no evils to pop out.

>That makes no sense though. Expressing an opinion with no expectation that it influence anything can't be selfish. It's literally just stating something.
Yes it is, because your honest opinion is based on what you prefer, its extremely selfish.

Agressive?
Source? this came directly from your ass.

The issue isnt fapping over sex. Its fapping to porn when they cant get sex. Thats why men do it. We dont get sex when ever we want even if we have a girl friend.

Never really did compare during my own relationship, but thats because sex was out of love while fapping was just to get that feeling

One of the first reply's in this thread is a bit childish in wording but hits the problem right on its head

There will be times where you won't want to while he feels horny, as men we can't expect you to be ready at all times so we use porn

Just like when you want to be entertained you pick up a book or turn up a sjow

It's a small void that needs to be filled, and though you have preferences, the only thing that matters is that it is furfilled

I think you might have some small issues but nothing that cant be fixed

And if you really want to compete with a pornstar, then be one in the sack

Turn this negative into a possitive, let the competition with porn fill you to be the best gf possible

>What? Are you implying that, just because a guy I like is willing to date me or be nice to me, I should hide my feelings and insecurities from them and just bottle them up?
No but i do think you need to give a guy a little more credit and know he doesnt equate you to a porn star because he actually has sex with you.

>I'll never be a porn star to him, and the thought that, given the chance, he'd choose her over me in a heartbeat is scary.
No he wouldnt!
First off you are making sex in to a commited relationship thing.
A commited relationship means sex but not the other way around.
You are thinking that if he were to meet her she fuck him.
Men think more honestly than that, they know they arent up to the porn star standard and couldnt get a real relationship from her in the first place.

I'm only repeating what I read other men on Jow Forums say in threads discussing porn, masterbation, NoFap and similar topics. They could be exaggerating though.

This is also wrong. If anything porn watchers are more sensitive and afriad, its like a child who is afriad of meet mickey at disney land. They are overwhelmed.

Nofap just makes us more charming because we take chances on shit we say.

i dont watch porn anymore desu simply cos i watched too much of it now i cant find anything that isnt boring