Pretend you are a female looking at you. What would make you attracted to yourself? What is your ideal version of you from the female perspective? We assume obvious things that everyone wants like clear skin, cleanly... Feel free to use this template...
>Height
>Weight
>Body type/muscle
>Level of education
>Job
>Income
>Personality
>Style of dress/hair
>Close to family?
>Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)?
>Pretend you are a female looking at you. Instruction unclear. I cut off my dick.
Do you want me to imagine an ideal guy from a female perspective? Or point out things females find attractive about me?
Isaac Adams
>Pretend you are a female looking at you. What would make you attracted to yourself? What is your ideal version of you from the female perspective? We assume obvious things that everyone wants like clear skin, cleanly... >Feel free to use this template... >>Height 5'6 >>Weight 130 >>Body type/muscle Average >>Level of education College Masters Degree >>Job Environmental agency state of federal >>Income 66,000 >>Personality Quirky, loves animals and the environment >>Style of dress/hair Short black hair, punkish >>Close to family? Yes, love my mother >>Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? Libral >>Hobbies Reading hiking shopping social media >>Religious affiliation/views None >>Attitude around children(good with kids)? Pleasant and sweet.
Austin Bailey
Pretend you are a girl you would be attracted to, looking at you (actual male you)
What would you want, as that attractive girl, in your actual male you, to make you attracted to him?
Pretend you are a girl YOU as a guy would be attracted to, what would make you attracted to you(actual male you, not the girl you are pretending to be)
>>Height Haven't measured in a while, either 6' or 6'1 >>Weight Haven't measured either, a bit chubby but not fat >>Body type/muscle I work out but not as consistently as one would want >>Level of education Currently doing my PhD in a STEM field in a good university >>Job ^ >>Income Decent >>Personality Extremely introverted >>Style of dress/hair Decent >>Close to family? Kinda >>Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? progressive >>Hobbies vidya and mango. Also hiking >>Religious affiliation/views atheist >>Attitude around children(good with kids)? nah
I guess from a girl's persopective I'd want me to leave the fucking house for once and get some real hobbies. Problem is, as an introvert I actually enjoy my hobbies more than I would enjoy being with another person
>Body type/muscle athletic, strong but not body builder or crazy powerlifting type, body of a fighter, can look at arms and see he is strong
>Level of education graduate degree would be nice but bachelor's If he is successful
>Job this is hard. doctor, scientist, high level GOOD engineer, job cannot be more than 40 hours per week, preferrably is flexible and gives him time to be with me. Basically whatever pays him the most with the lowest hours
>Income $75,000 bare minimum, preferrably over $100,000
>Personality Virtuous, speaks only when he has something to really say, imitate George Washington and Benjamin Franklin basically, can make me laugh, confident in himself
>Style of dress/hair imitate Paul Newman minus Jew hair probably
>Close to family? preferably but if his family sucks then no way it would be understandable
>Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? Traditional but enlightened
>Hobbies plays an instrument maybe, sings and dances, reads a lot, like 1 book every week
>Religious affiliation/views not sure, extremely moral and virtuous, no drug use or sexual promiscuity, but an organizationed religious affiliation isn't necessary, but probably some Protestant deist, not sure and not necessary, extremely virtuous is what I'd want
>Attitude around children(good with kids)? VERY GOOD with kids, like undeniable amazing father potential that makes you wet
Use your damned imagination and pretend you are a girl looking at yourself
William Jones
The idea is that you look at yourself honestly from the female perspective to see what you could change about yourself to make your pretend female self attracted to you.
Colton Edwards
>Height 5'11 (though I'd probably want a taller guy as a girl tbqh) >Weight 155 >Body type/muscle basically otter-mode >Level of education who cares >Job who cares as long he's not a wage cuck >Income who cares >Personality ambitious, humorous, relaxed, open minded, curious, empathetic >Style of dress/hair who cares as long it's not too try hard/preferably short ... I think >Close to family? who cares >Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? somewhere in the green when using the political compass thingie >Hobbies who cares as long there is something creative and something active >Religious affiliation/views please no/materialistic fuck >Attitude around children(good with kids) at the very leasts gets along with them
Grayson Carter
That's the easy part. So now I am a girl, looking at my old male self, I should list what I find attractive about him? But then the whole going out of body experience was pointless. And if it's about the things I'd want him to be, static factors like height make it kinda to start with our old selves.
That was my initial interpretation too but then manlets would have to pretend that a girl would have their height as an ideal, which while possible, just doesn't seems realistic enough to count for honesty. Other factors like "closeness to family" would be limiting too, due not being fully in our control.
The general idea was pretty interesting but the template would definitely need more work.
Ryder Wilson
>Height 5'4" >Weight I dunno, but right now I'm good. Not too slim but not fat. >Body type/muscle I bike a lot and I'm a healthy guy even though I don't go to the gym. >Level of education Currently getting a bac in Software Engineering >Job Multiple summer jobs, but as of right now: none (but money ain't an issue because I save a lot of it during summer) >Income More than my girlfriend >Personality I'm a cool guy. I do stupid jokes. I'm careful around others and I do all kinds of special things for the people I like. However, I'm kind of insensitive towards the people I dislike... I don't mean to hurt them, but when other people have issues, they should try to fix them. >Style of dress/hair Like a gramp. I have one pair or beige pants, beige "summer fuckboi shoes", and I wear wool shirts. >Close to family? Haha nope. My family is messed up and disfonctionnal. While I can get along my family just fine because I'm used to them, most of them are very asocial and make other people very unconfortable. >Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? Progressive for the wrong reasons (money, equality of outcome, helping people who don't help themselves) and conservative for the wrong reasons (they hate migrants). >Hobbies Readibg about history, politics, economy, randon shit. I like all that techno stuff. Play too many video games. I also did some musical comedies back in high school or whatever it's called in the US. >Religious affiliation/views I don't go to church but I really respect those that do. I think the christian religion is important because it is at the foundation of our western society, but obviously the Church is not necessary and the stories from the bible are not to be taken litteraly. I dislike those who think that they are more intelligent than others because they were able to see through "the lies of religion". >Attitude around children(good with kids)? I don't know. I want to be a dad, but I'll probably be thought love
Jeremiah Bailey
I would most definetely want to date me. Im 5.11 king of manlets, muscular, steadiest job you could ask for, have friends, older people like parents fucking LOVE being around me , dress properly and i have a 18 cm dick.
Sadly, girls don't think like men so they don't want to date me. I spend my days moping over my exes and working out till somebody loves me again.
Kevin Hernandez
Then use your own template nigga?
Blake Torres
Nuuu
Wyatt Green
No, manlets don't have to pretend. If their height is unattractive to their female self, then it is.
>I should list what I find attractive about him? noooooo. You list what you would want in him. If you already have some of the things your demale self would want, list it as long as you are being 100% honest about it.
Some of it doesn't matter if you can't change it as it would be understandable to girls, like your family sucking etc..
not you, holy shit... what would you as a cute girl want? How is this shit so hard to wrap your heads around
This isn't a fucking stats thread. This is a thought experiment, use your imagination and try to visualize the female perspective. This is not that fucking hard
>doctor, scientist, high level GOOD engineer >job cannot be more than 40 hours per week Yeah, about that...
Evan Ross
I know. It isn't realistic at all. I would revise it to just a white collar job that isn't retarded that is 40hr weeks at the most, preferably part-time
Liam Smith
> gay lumberjack outfit > short beard hiding weak chin > his hair is better than mine > blue eyes > mental illness is cool
Cameron Bell
6'5 210 Pretty lanky but some muscle. Dress like a redneck wigger most of the time but throw on a suit jacket and I'm gold Can't grow a beard but look OK with stubble Big goofy glasses. Need to get contacts Work 2 shit jobs make about 430 a week. Big wang, and the looser pants give me a pretty intimidating buldge. Overall 5.5/10 Would bang
Cooper Johnson
>Height 178-180cm >Weight 60-70kg >Body type Skinny/slightly toned >Education Probably in college >Job Bartender or something like that >Income Average I guess >Personality Goofy, clumsy >Style of dress/hair Pretty boy type (think young Leo Decap or Cole Sprouse) >Close to family Probably >Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional I assume I seem pretty liberal >Hobbies Geeky stuff (music, videogames, books) >Religious I think I look kinda Catholic >Attitude around children Pretty good
Robert Ramirez
Pity bump
Jason Watson
What even is the point of this thread? Are you trying find out how to best attract traps?
Christopher Johnson
It's a thought experiment.
Brody Miller
Perhaps it would be more interesting if people had to post what they actually were.
Parker Morgan
That is uninteresting. It's more interesting to see what you think girls would want in you. Just letting your stats, nobody cares
Carson Gutierrez
i'm already so fucking weird as a guy that self-inserting as an equally weird girl will do nothing for my objectivity
Jose Lee
I meant in addition to the man they want. Either one alone is pointless.
Carter Davis
>Height 180+cm >Weight not too chubby >Body type/muscle somewhere in the middle, not too muscular. >Level of education love degree ;) (bachelor is minimum, but not really) >Job yes, but it should be something he likes. And with lots of free time so he can be with me Income 2k+eur per month >Personality Not violent, responsible, passionate, tolerant, smart and fun. Little bit introverted (because he would spent more time with me) >Style of dress/hair Just normal. Not too much fashionable, that's a redflag. Just clean elegant clothes and haircut are enough. >Close to family? Lives on his own (not in mother's basement) but loves his family, and helps them occasionally. >Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? I want him to respect and support me (I don't mean financially but emotionally). >Hobbies some sport, traveling, cooking and hugging :3 >Religious affiliation/views Not a muslim! >Attitude around children(good with kids)? yes good with kids
Brandon Allen
and for >Pretend you are a female looking at you.
>Uwaah our eyes met, what a creep. I bet he is gigantic loser or IT guy.
Julian Brooks
Why would anyone be attracted to me while there are other guys out there who are more attractive and don't suffer from depression? There's no way I can ever acquire what a normal average guy has, I don't see the point in trying anymore. I'm in a dead end.
Jackson Stewart
If you don't have any self-value why do you even want a mate? What would you share with them?
Jaxson Kelly
My knowledge, creativity, the fact that I never cheat, the potential fun we'd have if we had common interests. But I don't think anyone would want someone lik eme.
Carson Anderson
>Height 5ft 5 >Weight 150 lbs (i think) >Body type/muscle Hourglass. Carry most of my weight around my hips/butt. >Level of education College >Job Entrepreneur >Income 100k >Personality Very loving. Kind. Good sense of humour. I am nurturing. But can be snappy and impatient. I need a lot of space and relationships make me feel suffocated, usually. Had 2 sexual partners both ltr. >Style of dress/hair Ripped jeans, fitted tshirt, hair is dark and down to my butt >Close to family? Very >Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? Traditional but, unless the woman is at home looking after a baby for the first few months/years, she should be working too. I have no problem flirting with a guy to make it known I'm interested but he needs to ask me out first. >Hobbies I play video games, read and shop. >Religious affiliation/views Spiritual >Attitude around children(good with kids)? I love kids and good with them. I don't want more than 2 though.
Connor Robinson
Same :c
Henry Ramirez
Then why are you depressed? If you're so knowledgeable and creative then you should have a will to live regardless of what others think of you.
Aiden Phillips
Bump
Mason Bell
That's not how real depression works though.
Joseph Adams
If you believe you have chemical depression caused by brain problems then see a doctor and get medication.
If not, then it's up to you to find the will to live and enjoy life, and diagnosing yourself as "depressed" won't help.
Why did you put >Pretend you are a female looking at you in the OP if you had no intention to have the imagined perspective be compared to the real us? It makes things confusing
Camden Stewart
Absolutely nothing, which is why females aren't attracted to me.
Owen Green
This is a stupid question, but men have proven to be better at being women than women themselves.
Brandon Mitchell
What does that even mean.
Aaron Perez
>Height Taller than me >Weight Not fat >Body type/muscle Slightly fit but no big bodybuilders >Level of education Educated, going for a scientific degree >Job Doesnt matter as long as he has goals and is building his future >Income Doesnt matter unless 28+ then more than average could be nice >Personality Confident, no ego, peaceful, charming, likes everyone, funny >Style of dress/hair Doesnt matter as long as it looks good on him, prefer some sense of fashion tbqh >Close to family? Doesnt has to be but its better if he is >Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? Doesnt matter >Hobbies Has some, no anime tho >Religious affiliation/views Just not orthodox >Attitude around children(good with kids)? Always an advantage never a must
Sounds a bit like me except the confident part Not so charming with women either
I think it is easier to think of what I think women would avoid >Height Shorter than herself is bad. >Weight Higher BMI than 25 is bad. >Body type/muscle As long as people are generally fit and not overly obese or overly muscular, it should not be an important factor. >Level of education >Job >Income I think women would dislike if there were no job and no possibility for a job. I don't think a minimum level of education is required by anyone. Typically women would prefer a lumberjack or construction worker over an engineer or a scientist. >Personality Fun, caring and reliable. >Style of dress/hair I think women despise people with t-shirts, I know I do. >Close to family? Huge red flag if someone isn't close with their family. Either way, retardation runs in the family if they can't get along. Divorced parents is also bad. >Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? Disagreeing about this should be a red flag >Hobbies Things people can do together is a plus, other things are not a negative. >Religious affiliation/views Militant in any direction is bad. >Attitude around children(good with kids)? Bad with children or other people is a bad thing.
Matthew Russell
What is the point of this? I fail none of these criteria, my main reason I can't find a girlfriend is all women who leave their house already have a boyfriend. Most of these are hard to show to people through online dating or already shown by a picture of yourself + job title. You need to talk to people and online dating is not a good tool for that.
Easton Watson
traps are better women
Chase Lopez
>I think women despise people with t-shirts, I know I do.
Eh? Everyone owns t-shirts.
Kayden Brown
I am fine with a t-shirt under a shirt or under another thing, but a lot of people wear a t-shirt with some bad joke on it as the only thing they wear. That looks awful.
Jace Kelly
This. I objectively fail none of these (meaning I subjectively fail some, not that I'm some kind of perfect ubermench) and I'm still single. I don't know why it isn't obvious to people that dating isn't a checklist of desirable qualities.
Elijah Sanders
You mean graphic t-shirts? Plain colour t-shirts are fine.
Carter Rivera
It all depends. Say your place of work have a company t-shirt that everyone wears. Wearing that at work is fine. Say you go running and you wear a plain t-shirt, wearing that is fine. Most sports should stick to a polo, that is why that was made, but I can accept a t-shirt for those things as you sweat a lot and you only have clothes on because of decency. But just casually wearing a t-shirt anywhere else is like wearing sweatpants outside a workout. It looks bad and you should not leave the home like that.
Levi Gonzalez
>>Height 6'0 >>Weight 150lbs >>Body type/muscle Skinny but fit >>Level of education P.eng >>Job Health & safety consultant >>Income 75k >>Personality I like mine. >>Style of dress/hair Baseball tee, henley shirts, or button down with the sleeves rolled up. >>Close to family? Yeah. >>Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? Right leaning liberal. >>Hobbies Vidya, rock climbing, airsoft >>Religious affiliation/views Atheist but not edgy >>Attitude around children(good with kids)? Kids are great. Used to be a swim teacher and all my cousin's kids love me.
Cooper Cooper
>But just casually wearing a t-shirt anywhere else is like wearing sweatpants outside a workout.
No.
Benjamin Hughes
>Height 5'10 - 6'3 >Weight 160 lbs. >Body type/muscle Toned but not ripped, no belly, 4-pack's good >Level of education Bachelor's or higher. >Job Almost anything they're passionate about. >Income 50k+ >Personality Just don't be a dick. Loyalty would be cool, but everybody cheats these days. >Style of dress/hair T-shirt and jeans/Not bald or balding. >Close to family? As long as they've cut the umbilical cord, I don't care. >Liberal/progressive or conservative/traditional (think gender roles)? Not conservative/traditional. >Hobbies Almost anything they want to do as long as it's in moderation. >Religious affiliation/views None. >Attitude around children(good with kids)? Can be anywhere from indifferent to good. I wouldn't want kids.
Michael White
Can you name an example where this is wrong?
Jayden Wood
Female perspective:
What he's still a virgin? He must be gay! Why isn't he coming up to us after we smiled, ajusted our bras licked our lips and stared at his crotch? He must be gay! Why does he always shy away when we stare at him? He must be gay!
Brayden Flores
>think about what a woman wants Why? >think about changing every single thing about what makes you uniquely you because of all of your life experiences Why? >think about living a lie for the next 50 years Why? >I feel incomplete and I'm looking for another person to validate my existence and I'm willing to surrender my very soul because I think that might make me happy Why?
Your problems lie within, user. Your post is similar to a mentally ill person cutting off their dick to magically'become' female. It's a false hope. Be happy with who you are. Any changes you want to make should be for you and only you.
