Is Russia on the path to marginalising its Muslim population?

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

trtworld.com/opinion/is-russia-on-the-path-to-marginalising-its-muslim-population-23927

New laws and rhetoric that defines parameters for acceptable forms of Islam in Russia run the risk of turning into draconian laws that can potentially be used to persecute Russian Muslims.
“We, the below-named, promise and vow before almighty God and the great Prophet Muhammad on four of his most just books, the Gospels, the Torah, Psalms of David, and the Qur’an, that we . . . must serve as loyal subjects of his imperial majesty . . . In concluding this our oath, we kiss the Qur’an of our Prophet Muhammad. Amen.”

An oath sworn by Muslims of the Russian empire, 1809

Russia has ruled Muslim populations for over five hundred years, and since the early nineteenth century, Muslims presented a unique challenge for Imperial Russia.

Catherine the Great adopted a policy of co-opting Muslim clergy and utilising them to be able to control and assimilate the Muslim population by inaugurating a policy of religious tolerance that made Islam an essential pillar of Orthodox Russia. For generations, the Tsars supported a particular type of Muslim figure in exchange for ensuring that forms of Islam seen by the state as potentially destabilising would be controlled.

This model informed policies within modern Russia through the institutionalising of Islam as a solid pillar of governance to mobilise religion for its benefit. Russia occupies a unique position in the Muslim world and has a very complex relationship with Islam due to the nine Muslim republics within it - with a total population of 25 million Muslims.

The Kremlin is aware of the historical allegiances of the Russian Muslim Tatars, and the Crimean Khanate's connections with the Ottoman and Safavid empires. Russia has had 200 years of sporadic warfare with the Muslims of the North Caucasus and the suppression of the Chechen quest for independence between 1994 and 2000.

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Jordan Diaz
Jordan Diaz

The stereotype of Muslims being 'Islamic extremists' is derived from the continued clashes and tension in the North Caucasus, like in Dagestan and Chechnya. Russia’s Muslims are viewed by the government as “potential Islamic fundamentalists” that represent an “imminent threat to the integrity of the Russian Federation.”

It is imperative to question whether this threat is superficial and whether this discussion is being encouraged by the authorities to use the perceived threat of Islam as an excuse for crushing opposition.

Islam is seen by Moscow as a transnational, millennialist challenge that threatens to encompass Russia.

Pigeonholes

In the last few years, the Kremlin has been widely using the phrase “traditional Islam” to regulate and design a new form of Islam that is difficult to define due to its several connotations.

The term has confused Muslims with its varied usage in designating forms of Islam that are inscribed in Russian history, and seen as 'moderate' as well as loyal to secular authorities.

In the Muslim religious environment, the term “traditional Islam” was first proposed by the High Mufti Talgat Tajutdin in the early 1990s in response to “new realities threatening the stability of Russia and the post-Soviet space in general.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin has stated that traditional Islam is an integral part of the Russian cultural code and an essential component of Russia’s cosmopolitanism. He has also defined the hijab as not a part of “traditional Islam” – merely borrowed from an alien tradition. This statement has raised eyebrows among Muslims and in particular Muslim women who feel the brunt of his words.

The neologism which was designed to facilitate an understanding of Islamic realities, has, on the contrary, forced Muslims to question what it means to hold onto “traditional Russian Islam.”

Austin Collins
Austin Collins

Any Russian court can declare material (book, leaflet, song, slogan, video, website or webpage) “extremist" or “not traditionally Islamic.” The Justice Ministry is then empowered to list that work on its Federal List of Extremist Materials, including classic literature such as the book ‘40 Hadith’ by Imam Nawawi or works written by one of the most prominent and influential Islamic philosophers, Abu Hamid Al Ghazali.

On 21st January 2019, a court in the Russian city Samara banned a translation of the Quran and blacklisted it as extremist - which outraged many Russian Muslims. This version of the translation by an Azeri theologian named Elmir Kuliyev is one of several available in the country, and for more than ten years it was used as ancillary literature in Muslim educational institutions.

The Quran translation case seems to have gone further in regulating a large and long-established minority by narrowing the field of Islamic education in the Russian language.

According to the Kremlin, all foreign Muslims are the principal factor behind the radicalisation of Muslims in Russia. Any Islamic idea, book and organisation influenced outside of Russia can be branded as “non-traditional Islam."

The “domestication" of Islam has created dilemmas for Russian Muslims in contemporary Russia and raised concerns of how they relate at the same time to secular authorities. The concept of ‘traditional Islam’ will make it easier for Russian authorities to repress religious communities, stifle peaceful dissent, and detain and imprison people.

Similarly as China has clamped down on its Muslim population of Uyghurs, one must question just how far Russian authorities are willing to go in regularising Islam in the country. To what degree will a large section of the population become marginalised, and to what extent will draconian measures be adopted in suppressing the identity of millions of Muslims who are unlikely to remain silent for much longer.

Julian Sanders
Julian Sanders

bump

Josiah Foster
Josiah Foster

Nice info dump. Hopefully the Russians can manage the Muslims more efficiently in coming years. Putin and Kadyrov's relationship is particularly interesting.

Ryan Rogers
Ryan Rogers

Greetings, user. Here's someone from an actual muslim area in Russia (Bashkortostan).
As far as I can tell you about that area, it's just normal to have Muslims, Christians and Atheists all around and the vast majority of people don't care too much about it.
I couldn't say that the muslim population here poses any problem for Russia. I would describe a lot of them as basically behaving like Atheists, just that they believe in spiritual stuff.

Isaac Rivera
Isaac Rivera

Who cares?
Isn't this board againts Islam?

Adam Howard
Adam Howard

Bashkortostan and Tatarstan are Europeanized, so they don't really strike out like Chechnya, which is a savage shithole like Middle East

this board supports Islamic-style conservatism, but doesn't like Muhammad and Arabs

Nathan Bennett
Nathan Bennett

Islamic-style conservatism
You mean by being retarded cunts ?

Lucas Adams
Lucas Adams

kek welcome to the club. no place for faggy liberals

Jacob Russell
Jacob Russell

LIE

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Sebastian Fisher
Sebastian Fisher

Where did I say that they had to be liberals?
Just out of curiosity, what is Islamic conservatism?

Daniel Sullivan
Daniel Sullivan

i don't care about their political ideology, if they're stupid they're stupid.

Hunter Cooper
Hunter Cooper

sorry Mongol subhuman this board is ours now

Brody Martinez
Brody Martinez

this

it's mainly hatred to women because they don't want to have sex with them, hatred to Jews because they're smarter,
a bit of homophobia, etc, but those are weaker forms

Hudson Carter
Hudson Carter

Islamic-style* conservatism, this is revival traditional family-oriented values in place of "enlightened" liberalist individualism and humanism dissolving Western societies into oblivion

Samuel Young
Samuel Young

calling someone subhuman
comes from Algeria

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Noah Cooper
Noah Cooper

Putin doesn't care about Muslims, all what he do is in order to satisfy the Islamic population of Russia and to evade any possibility of religious civil war
if such a thing happens Burgerland will take the chance to interfere in Russia and this is exactly what the Kremlin
better have muslims as your allies then as pawns used by western globalists

Daniel Hughes
Daniel Hughes

Because Muslims were oppressed for centuries in Russia.

Dominic Price
Dominic Price

shut up roach go back to Turkey

William Perry
William Perry

flag
calling others subhuman
Maybe
Are you sure, you aren't from Syria?

Tyler Stewart
Tyler Stewart

*what the Kremlin fears

Owen Hughes
Owen Hughes

Russia is starting up policies that favor ethnic Russians.

One reason for this is that pro-white policies resonate with westerners that are flooded with non-whites, as that get a good percentage of whites in the west to be on their team.

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Isaac Bell
Isaac Bell

To Turkey? You seem confused, little man.

Jayden Clark
Jayden Clark

putin promised
I would take a word of actual Muslim than lying KGB scum.

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Thomas Torres
Thomas Torres

Because Muslims were oppressed for centuries in Russia.
Time to restart that, and for the Russians to use the mixed western populations to create as much ethnic tension in the west as possible.

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Blake Harris
Blake Harris

Translating to English

Islamic-style conservatism
Aggressive toxic uninformative behaviour full of hatred and venom

revival traditional family-oriented values
Hatred to women and desire to oppress them because they don't want to have sex with them and follow their rubbish views voluntarily.

Ian Garcia
Ian Garcia

Tatar super power when?

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Zachary Barnes
Zachary Barnes

He is, he hates jews and makes threads about sending them back to Poland.

Angel Lewis
Angel Lewis

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Leo Anderson
Leo Anderson

flag
nah am not Mr.roach

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William Stewart
William Stewart

I really prefer just having european and decent muslims over radicalising them even further

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Joshua Allen
Joshua Allen

TRT

Blake Ross
Blake Ross

lol I am Danish, jeg er pæredansk. but I have realized that Western nations are becoming empty shells and cannot survive the "inevident" globalization, which is solely due to our weakness

David Taylor
David Taylor

t. Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov
Why don't you go back to Russia, if you hate west so much???

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

I would take a word of actual Muslim than lying KGB scum.
You'll get a chance to do that soon, as Ukraine will need to take in muslims to get EU money.

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Ryder Perry
Ryder Perry

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Jackson Gomez
Jackson Gomez

I'm not even close to being Turkish, lmao. But thanks for displaying your sub-saharan IQ

Andrew Nelson
Andrew Nelson

IN THE NAME OF VODKA

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Nicholas Fisher
Nicholas Fisher

ukraine
every tiem
no one here cares about muslims
CIA shillnigger pls go

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Evan Scott
Evan Scott

calm moshe

Evan Carter
Evan Carter

He's not Russian, he's from muslim shithole, pakistan or something.

Blake Morris
Blake Morris

Putin loves muslim shitskins a lot, and needs them.
I suppose it is because he expects that as him and his kike buddies rob entire country further, one day common working russian men supported by ethnic nationalists have enough of him and will tell his regime to fuck off. If this happens, army and police manned by Russians refuse to use lethal weapons to subdue rioters. This is why he needs muzies.
Make no mistake, Putin is mongrel manlet whose only allegiance is to his kike mob.

Adrian Butler
Adrian Butler

nice try shlomo, you're not fooling anyone

Cameron Russell
Cameron Russell

Islam
not marginal
Where in the whole white world, exactly?

Isaiah Sanders
Isaiah Sanders

it's time for you to go back to /po/russia, kiddo

Ryder Gutierrez
Ryder Gutierrez

I'm not surprised. Germans are demoralized, and no longer see any value in continuing to exists as Germans.

It's painful to watch.

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Elijah Bennett
Elijah Bennett

this

Brandon Foster
Brandon Foster

as for us we don't need to bother ourselves to kill you, i mean you're already doing this by drinking vodka to death
i think you should pay more attention to your sister, these new Somalians immigrants in your hood having their eyes on her

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Logan Morris
Logan Morris

after the sudden skyrocketing of Orthodoxy in Russia, Islam has decreased more and more

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Gabriel Jones
Gabriel Jones

Remind me, who once did explicitly stated that "Russia is not for the Russians"? Or who made holohoax denial a crime?

Hudson Lewis
Hudson Lewis

it really depends on the region. There are more than enough regions where the german population still makes up the majority and sees islam as pure cancer.
But really, I don't think that Islam itself is cancerous, but rather following any religion to this extent. If you had people following the bible just as the arabs follow the quran, it would be just as disgusting

Oliver Sullivan
Oliver Sullivan

Ask tatars themselves.
They got cucked very easily. Half of the marriages in Tatarstan are mixed. I bet the majority of female are tatars :/
Where specifically is your weakness? Just as it was expected

Levi Baker
Levi Baker

It's our elites that hate the west, while I want the west to survive as white countries.

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Carson Cox
Carson Cox

sister
somalian immigrants
i have neither here, lol. but i guess even the somalians are better people than you

Parker Jenkins
Parker Jenkins

Most Muslims in Russia are ethnically Turkic and Erdogan's media machine is eyeing the opportunity - OP's source, TRT World, is Turkey's official mouthpiece.

Any Muslim persecution in Russia, historically and present, is the result of their mutiny and they end up hurting themselves. Not unlike Kurds.

Christopher Howard
Christopher Howard

The west was dead drunk for three centuries,(16-1900) and Russia and Ireland is just a century behind.

Russians drink more beer and wine than vodka now, so it's going in the right direction.

Parker James
Parker James

MUH JOOZ
Dumb moron, don't involve Jews in the same shit as pootin. Any self-respecting Jew hates this KGB manlet and his cronies.

Carter Morgan
Carter Morgan

Thats only good thing Russians do, at least they will not get fucked by tribes of "Muhamads". In all i think Russians should start global effort to burn all mudslimes alive.

Nathan Allen
Nathan Allen

Its better to have them opressed, than raping your doughter.

Austin Reed
Austin Reed

Russia isn't the worst country by alcohol consumption, the Irish, Finns, Brits drink much as well and may be even more.

It's mostly the retarded drunk behaviour made that Russian stereotypical image.

Jack Cox
Jack Cox

So this is why half of his oligarch friends has Israeli dual citizenship, and all the lib kike mass media get funding from state-owned Gazprom? Sounds like you're too small fry of a yid to see whole picture, perhaps nose enlargement surgery will help.

Gabriel Hughes
Gabriel Hughes

I want those sweet soviet numbers back though. 61% atheists is pretty nice

Blake Wilson
Blake Wilson

it really depends on the region.
The Russian occupied parts are not as demoralized as the Western occupied ones.

If you had people following the bible just as the arabs follow the quran, it would be just as disgusting
Being this brainwashed.... Norwegians never followed the bible, like muslims follow the koran, and the same is probably true in Germany.

I'm no fan of religion, but to say all religions are equal is childish.

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William Wright
William Wright

i have neither here
sure you don't

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Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan

He uses Jow Forums memes to make it look like libshits from /po/russia hating Putin are /ourguys/ that's it.

Landon Lee
Landon Lee

Why would you be against Islam if you are a man?

The world becomes much freeya with Sharia.

get multiple wives
wives can't ho around
only thing you have to do is not publicly say islam sucks monkey dick

Colton Edwards
Colton Edwards

our weaknesses
Messiah complex, hedonism, narcissism, apathy to self-destructive behavior, disappearance of social cohesion, rampant degeneracy and disloyalty to nation and family. this is almost unfixable as of today, we are bound for dissolution into globohomo multikulti wonderland

Anthony Reyes
Anthony Reyes

yes, east germany is doing pretty alright in that regard.
in the west you have many cities where like 70% of young people are foreigners. But it's not just muslims, there's basically everything. Russians, Italians, Poles and what not.
The non-white article is pure bullshit though.

Hudson Kelly
Hudson Kelly

Cкaжи "Чeчня - кpyтo", poccиянин.

Jose Evans
Jose Evans

It's mostly the retarded drunk behaviour made that Russian stereotypical image.
I suspect Russia also contains people like the Scandinavian Saami, or American indians that don't take alcohol very well.

It's true that the West were dead drunk for three centuries though, and that some countries were ahead and some countries lagged behind.

google 'drunk for a penny, dead drunk for two'

Evan Gonzalez
Evan Gonzalez

yep, a wet dream of an incel

Gavin Cox
Gavin Cox

Muslims oppressed Christians since the beginning, you shitskin.

Evan Kelly
Evan Kelly

in the west you have many cities where like 70% of young people are foreigners.
Oslo is majority non-white, so the cancer is in all the US imperial puppets.

Bentley King
Bentley King

not following the religion is what makes them bearable.
Christianity and Islam both have just stupid religious books. Only reason I see why christians are better is them not actually following any of it.

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

Чeчня - кpyтo.

Now go back to /po/russia. People come here because they're tired of your libshit bollocks on harkach. And take your Ukrainian friends with you.

Noah Mitchell
Noah Mitchell

Oslo is majority non-white
soon.

Eli Myers
Eli Myers

If Russia joined the EU, tomorrow, their entire country (except for kikes who control it and rich oligarchs) would move even to fucking Slovakia and Croatia

t. know dozens of Russians who got moldovian citizenship(had romanian grandpas and parents) only to move here and then go west
some stayed tho

Ryan Howard
Ryan Howard

I have put my peepee in more than one vegana including unused ones, thus my opinion is valid.

islam is against degeneracy (homos, trannies etc)
islam allows you to go to heaven if you kill at least 1 infidel, compared to christianity which requires you to act good and shit
islam allows you to come on and in 9 year olds, while christianity reserves it only to priests
islam is clearly superior religion to christianity

I am a realist and nothing matters once I am gone, why not make the ride the best we can?

Evan Scott
Evan Scott

Christianity and Islam both have just stupid religious books.
Denmark-Norway was sort of a military state and dead drunk when book printing gave us the "trve Bible" and Norwegians found out that they were heretics.

Bentley Jenkins
Bentley Jenkins

messiah complex
dissapeqreance of social cohesion
These are they key problems imho
Yet, do you really think they can't be fixed?
Why do you think so and how did you get to that conclusion?

Evan Thomas
Evan Thomas

One of our worst cities is Stuttgart.
610k total population, 340k germans and 270k people with migrational background
Counting by citizenship, they have 155k foreigners out of which 118k are european.
Biggest groups are from following countries in following order:
Turkey, Croatia, Greece, Italy, Romania, Serbia, Bosnia, Syria, Portugal, Poland

Hudson Rivera
Hudson Rivera

Do you think Estonia will go muslim in your lifetime?

The answer is obviously no, and since you don't care about what happens after you are dead, you don't even have children.

Asher Reed
Asher Reed

Хәйepлe киc, иптәштәpe. How's the situation in Kazakhstan at the moment?

Jaxson Rogers
Jaxson Rogers

One of our worst cities is Stuttgart.
The worst is when you have this continuum. It's easier to create tension and hatred when you got Norwegians(poles+swedes+danes) and the Pakis, MENA and niggers like we have.

Brayden Sullivan
Brayden Sullivan

Thats actually a decent form of conservatism
In reality bad islamic conservatism is essentially arabic nationalism with arabic-only quran readings, arabic-style only dresses, arabic-style only tradition and so on and so forth to the point where non-arabs being declared not true muslims because muhammad was an arab(some of ismalic denominations in meddle east are already like this, you can read about non-arab muslims on hadj or joining islamist groups getting shit from arabs despite supposed muslim brotherhood)
Bascially if we throw out all the arab influence from islam its an ok religion not unlike christianity without rome and judaism without jews

Lucas Nguyen
Lucas Nguyen

sovietization of muslims
Based and redpilled.
Mad Tatar detected.

Jace Myers
Jace Myers

Modern Westerners are taking our living standards for given, and it cannot be fixed unless we go through economic downfall. General populace live in bubbles, and they have to be affected personally

Nicholas Bailey
Nicholas Bailey

Who fucking cares? Russia should be nuke

Ryan Turner
Ryan Turner

It's not really creating much tension. But Germany is far far away from becoming non-white. You could just describe Germany as becoming USA Junior.

Cooper Diaz
Cooper Diaz

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Michael Nelson
Michael Nelson

This 100% summarises the problem with most Westerners.

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Lincoln Ramirez
Lincoln Ramirez

sovietization of muslims
:)
sovietization of poles
:(

Justin Evans
Justin Evans

You could just describe Germany as becoming USA Junior.
'Germany becoming Brazil' is the meme.

But Germany is far far away from becoming non-white.
The German regime have made having children to expensive for the natives, so I'm not sure that is true.

Have Germans started to hate on journalists yet? The German regime can't protect those treasonous scum, so they are Globohomo's weakest link.

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Nathaniel Jenkins
Nathaniel Jenkins

Lol, Russia’s entire population is marganalized. It has a lower GDP than the state of Ohio.

Andrew Howard
Andrew Howard

Хәйepлe киc, иптәштәpe.
?
how is situation
What exactly do you want to know? let the situation fix itself
believe the universe
we don't matter
Lol, are slowly turning from syrian into chinese?

Austin White
Austin White

Probably not.

You are right, I don't have children and don't plan on having any, because in this day and age they are an economical suicide and a trap.

Imagine having to pay 250 euros a month minimum for 18 years should you split with the mother of your children.

250 * 12 * 18 = 54000 euros. Would I rather buy real estate and rent it out to ensure financial stability throughout my life. That 54k euros could start doing drugs, die in a freak accident or just outright hate you because the women tend to get custody of the children and so on.

Jeremiah White
Jeremiah White

Not to mention, I could save those 54k, eat healthily and work out, then take a trip to asian countries and have unprotected sex with bunch of prostitutes.

Jack Smith
Jack Smith

I'm not trying to use a meme or anything, i'm actually serious about it becoming USA Junior.

58% of children age 0-3 are foreigners. 61% between 3-6. With foreigners already taking up roughly 44% of the population, it's not overly drastic.
It's just something that happens when you give women too many rights and they start pursuing careers instead of having a family

Elijah Taylor
Elijah Taylor

well, I have a solution but most people prefer their comfortable lives to this and wouldn't make the concessions needed in their lifestyles. Most Westerners would take the path of least resistance, like water. so they have to learn the hard way

Nathaniel Barnes
Nathaniel Barnes

?
well, i don't really speak any Kazakh, only a little Bashkir/Tatar. этo знaчит "дoбpый вeчep, тoвapищ"
What exactly do you want to know?
Are there any problems due to religion in your country?
Are people still speaking and learning Russian everwhere?

Noah Turner
Noah Turner

Completely right. This is what Islam has been doing right the whole time, which is why it will conquer the whole world. R will outbreed K.

Robert Lewis
Robert Lewis

I'm not trying to use a meme or anything,
Why not?
Are you some cuck, that are content with just watching?

It's just something that happens when you give women
I'm not surprised that you blame it all on women.

Owen Price
Owen Price

Why would being Muslim help you, since you would just put your four wives on birth-control, since you don't want to pay for children?

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Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

Since we don't believe in the" right to chose" shit here, ypu are free to enforce your rule over the others just like the juden.
Masses exist to be pushed
tatar
Well, ok then.
religion
There is an Islam threat. Their numbers do grow, however primarily among the old generation. Youth, in a big cities, live by themselves.
russian language
Yes, especially in rural areas of the south.
Smt else?

Noah Anderson
Noah Anderson

because memes actually solve problems and determine whether i'm active or passive in that matter. right.

and i don't know about you, but i haven't seen a man getting pregnant yet. Maybe your cuck society has found some way, so your fags can feel more equal to you all?

Grayson Campbell
Grayson Campbell

and rhetoric that defines parameters for acceptable forms of Islam in Russia run the risk of turning into draconian laws that can potentially be used to persecute Russian Muslims.
mfw russia suddelny realy is the good guy
not just a meme
for real a good gopnik

Aaron Butler
Aaron Butler

I'm not tatar, btw. I just come from Bashkiria, where it's one of the rather common languages.
islam threat
what exactly is it? any different from what it was during soviet times?

Bentley Wood
Bentley Wood

when are they making another russian xmen i love that show
youtu.be/T4Oasn5EUac

Blake Bailey
Blake Bailey

Idiot, can't you read between the lines?
A revival implies the previous/traditional ones is dead.
who killed it?
What_is_grozny_policy.jpeg
That revival implies that only state approved imams are allowed. Others are outlaws.

Julian Howard
Julian Howard

So you are one of the 'new Germans'. No wonder you want the native Germans to die out, since you probably feel inferior.

Gabriel Miller
Gabriel Miller

Why does this so-called "Russia" look like an American theme park?

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

the new germans? whut. I'm not even german, mate.

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

According to Mama Merkel, you are.

Adrian Hill
Adrian Hill

Only place the wives would go from the relationship is to the graveyard.

You don't have to pay alimony if you are "together".

Aaron Morris
Aaron Morris

Don't confuse Muslim countries being shitholes and their birth rates being inherently high. Most of the Greater Middle East already has TFR near replacement level or below it, and they are continuing to drop as people get to cities, buy iPhones and send their daughters to college. In a couple of decades they will have the same fertility rates as Europe but with much higher mortality and infertility rates due to centuries of inbreeding. Even secular Jews are already outbreeding Arabs in Israel. All Europeans have to do in order to win in the long run is not letting shitskins in.

Andrew Morgan
Andrew Morgan

this. K-selection is supposed to value quality over quantity. as soon as K-selected groups are dominated by r-groups, K-selection is a useless feature, and K will die out

enforce your rule
first we need to identify and remove traitors, kikes and their bootlickers. before we are done, we have turned into a Muslim country

Nathaniel Stewart
Nathaniel Stewart

wont happen. putins need the muslism to keep peace. otherwise the will be a wave of terror attacks in russia from the caucasus

Justin Robinson
Justin Robinson

Islam in USSR
I am sorry, but don't really know anything about it
what exactly
I mean, they are just regular muslims. Like in Germany, as an example, however there is one force which keeps them from behaving the natural way, it is government.
There is a mutual agreement between the majority of people, because if we start have hot debates or protests, can easily get beaten the shit out by the police.

The post below I wrote to danish user, but thread hit the bump limit so it didnt reach him. I thought you might get interested

what do you do for entertainment
Drinking and nothing.
Not joking , all they do is get drunk.It is the most affordable pastime.

paintball
softball
skiing
hiking
swimming in the lakes and rivers
Too fucking expensive,but time to time people find money for this.
Ok, it isn't costly to swim obviously, but to get there is whole another story.

clubs by interests like reading, sports , philosophy etc
Actually,the most developed part of entertainment aside from trade centers, but sadly only in big cities.

tourism
People really like travelling , but get very similiar with their choices.
It always starts with Turkey for some unlnlwn reason.
Inner state tourism is developing at a drastic rates, but still not enough for our high standarts, lol.

politics
No political life. Our commies,ancaps and nazies gather in basement jungles of huge buildings, kek.

Want something else?

Grayson Brooks
Grayson Brooks

Hell no. And no one gives a fuck about Merkel. She'll soon be gone and even at this moment she's less popular than Trump and the people who like her are either old pensioners who've voted for the same party their entire life or people who want to see Germany burn.

Easton Butler
Easton Butler

Thanks for sharing OP.

Ayden Flores
Ayden Flores

And whats your problem with Islam?

Owen Walker
Owen Walker

How much ISIS pays your for proxies and shilling?

Owen Bell
Owen Bell

Noone gives a fuck, you Ukrainian disgusting faggot. Keep doing your gay shit to suck up to the globalists while it lasts.

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Ayden Martin
Ayden Martin

Glad we are finally in agreement, Ivan.
It's Russia as usual. They always try to brainwash conquered nations into becoming like them. Tried it on us too, but didn't get very far. They even attempted to teach Jews honest work in the 19th century.
Also the principal reason why we and the Baltics joined NATO and try to stay the hell away from their "sphere of influence".
We will see how taming Muslims will work out.

Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

Completely agree. Some if not most African and Arab countries are literal shitholes.

As I said R dominant strategy will outbreed K. Have 10 kids. Even if 5 die, you still have 5 high functioning autists to go. Meanwhile K will have 1 kid, spends a bunch of time and money to get it through education system and if then something happens there are 0 kids.

All I am saying is that its pointless to try to save the world, especially if it can mean throwing away your own personal freedoms and ability to enjoy life. We have 1 life, better spend it on the things we like. Although if saving the world is your thing, then more power to you.

Christopher King
Christopher King

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Jack Morgan
Jack Morgan

Germans invented that type of colonization.

Aaron Wright
Aaron Wright

sounds a lot like Kyrgyzstan desu. But I think you're doing better than them, right?

Aaron Campbell
Aaron Campbell

What you miss is that R will envy K and become similar degenerates within a generation or two.
Either we somehow combat this idiocy or the cycle will continue until literally only niggers from the deepest African jungle remain alive.

Caleb Howard
Caleb Howard

sorry to disappoint you, but it's been around for far longer than that

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

I'd say that Kyrgyzstan is catching up very quickly, hopefully they won't get this nation-wide existential crisis like we have.

Carson Nguyen
Carson Nguyen

JUST fuck my shit up

Eli Gutierrez
Eli Gutierrez

They had some people pushing for a more distinct kyrgyz national identity. is it that what you describe as crisis?

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

East Germany filled with slavs
Doing alright
Yeah ok nigger.

t. Thüringer

Andrew Russell
Andrew Russell

As a conscious, "imperial" policy? Give me some examples, Hans

Jack Roberts
Jack Roberts

the Romans for example? и я нe Фpиц, ты чтo?

Lucas Long
Lucas Long

France
Prussia
Sweden

John Perez
John Perez

I suppose we can agree on that today healthy nations or societies have a one goal which United them. The goal is usually something like getting back territories, spreading ideologies or just undermining others . Yet, almost nothing of this is present here.
People do love discussing politics, but that never leaves their houses.
At this point we just exist. Some of us started focusing their attention a lot on families , however it might be all what interests them.
Kyrgyz on the other side have a goal, well I hope so.

Samuel Rodriguez
Samuel Rodriguez

Germany is a Prussian invention.

Aaron Lee
Aaron Lee

We are not, future fellow compatriot
Russification or eradication of everything in the world is our national mission bestowed onto us by the will of the universe

Liam Cooper
Liam Cooper

Плoхoй пpимep:) Из гaллoв нe cдeлaли pимлян зa cтoлeтия гocпoдcтвa

Elijah King
Elijah King

Кaких имeннo? Гaллы этo бoльшaя гpyппa

Owen Flores
Owen Flores

я имeю в видy зaвoeвaния Цeзapя

France
They go full assimilation at 1870, germans started half a century earlier
Sweden
Just no
Prussia

Nice example, dumbass. G*rmans cucked real prussians and stole their name

Aaron Martinez
Aaron Martinez

So, what does Russia and Putin want to do with the Muslims in Russia?

Noah Roberts
Noah Roberts

Hy Цeзapь -этo нe вecь Pим.
Oднaкo, кyльтypнaя accимиляция этo нe пpo Цeзapя, тaк кaк eгo мeтoды вызывaли cлишкoм cильнoe coпpoтивлeниe . B тe вpeмeнa oни вeдь пpocтo выpeзaли дpyг дpyгa. Пoнятиe мягкoй cилa тoлькo зapoждaлocь,пo кpaйнeй мepe нa Зaпaдe.

Dominic Morgan
Dominic Morgan

we dont hate people because of their religion that would be stuipid. we hate people because we are racist

Andrew Green
Andrew Green

Sweden
So the Swedification of the Norwegians, Goths and Danes in the 1600s didn't happen?

John Martin
John Martin

нe пpo Цeзapя accимиляция этo , тaк кaк eгo мeтoды cильнoe coпpoтивлeниe вызывaли cлишкoм. вpeмeнa вызывaли cлишкoм oни вeдь дpyг дpyгa пpocтo выpeзaли.

Ian Russell
Ian Russell

Norwegians, Goths and Danes

They exist, don't they? But Prussians and many other Baltic and Slavic prides were virtually absorbed by g*ermans

Aiden Jones
Aiden Jones

Okay, maybe goths aren't

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