Are the radical environmental activists our allies? They are basically embodiments of what Ted Kaczynski told to do...

Are the radical environmental activists our allies? They are basically embodiments of what Ted Kaczynski told to do, but isn't their struggle too left-oriented?
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Fuck off Chernobyl

>left-oriented
The left right paradigm is a fabrication. Dont get caught in the weeds of words when you agree with a concept. You can care about the environment and be a conservative, which again is just another fabricated word that increasingly doesnt mean anything. Conservatives dont conserve much of anything besides their dollar. Ted says something abouts this like you cant conserve anything when you attempt to make progress technologically and in global finance.

left leaning environmentalists are commies
only right leaning environmentalists actually care about environment, but they are rare since they collide with big industry

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No, look up green Tyranny

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They are basically embodiments of what Ted Kaczynski told to do, but isn't their struggle too left-oriented?
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How are they any more leftist than Ted is?

So this is the power of genius level IQ

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Teodore Kaczynski is not even dead yet and he will be immortalized as radical working for betterment of humanity forever
that one comparative linguist is unknown, and nobody cares

Radical tree huggers are antihuman and are thus useful idiots of the oligarchy.

Actually his brother turned him in, but hey, the FBI has to grab the limelight where they can with all the false flags and spying and shit.

fuck off, I am radical tree hugger and I accept humanity as part of nature
those are (((ecologists))) you speak about, fagets who think "protecting" nature by inaction or taxes is good

>too left-oriented?
Niggers shit things up out of laziness & for shekels.
Intelligent people realize that this is the only habitable planet we know of, and keeping it that way is far more important than any fucking economy we invented.

Yeah, anything that undermines the ((capitalist)) system must be considered an "ally". But dont make the mistake of actively using your resources to promote these people.

Seriously OP, read teddy.. its all written in there.

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>Intelligent people realize that this is the only habitable planet we know of, and keeping it that way is far more important than any fucking economy we invented.

This. Only a semite would strive against nature to suit their own degenerate ways.

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>antihuman
Yes, we're such special fucking important snowflakes that our whim takes precedence over the existence of everything.

daily reminder that Europe is only continent that plants more trees than it cuts

This is the only problem with climate change.

If people stopped cutting down trees climate change would be solved.

>Pump co2 into air
>Cut down the only thing that "eats" co2
>Tax fuels goys! That will help!

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actual factual guy who knows stuff about this here
in Poland during recent COP 2018 we flaunted idea named "Leśne Gospodarstwa Węglowe" (Forest Coal Farms)
Idea about it is to plant A LOT of saplings to offset CO2 emissions
sadly, mathemathics is not our side, since we would be able to reforest almost entire country and offset CO2 emmited ONLY by 1 electric plant, Bełhatów in this case
forcing all other nations to decrease emissions and reforest would help solving problem way more

consider african Savannas. Data from niggers say that trees grow there easily. Why they arent planted you may ask? Niggers explain it this way:
>If we plant trees elephants come and ruin it
THEY LOSE TO A FUCKIN ELEPHANTS
WHY ANYBODY GIVES THEM SHEKELS FOR FUCKS SAKE

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In a fundamental level yes, but too many environmentalist groups have become subverted into caring more about refugees and hbtq and whatnot instead of actually caring about the environment. See most "green parties" for example.

>air is the only element of this
Air isn't what's perpetuating & speeding up the holocene extinction. It's everything all together.
The whole fucking ecosystem is a giant puzzle where every piece interacts with every other piece in countless, subtle ways; and we've been fucking with every piece at once for decades now.

it's easier to just eat seeds than plant it and wait for more crop.
niggers are retarded

fuck their retardation if it hurts my earth
we kill small and big game if it hurts our plants
why cannot we reduce number of niggers this way?
as right wing environmentalist it hurts to live

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last time someone tried to rid the world of useless niggers occupying some of the best parts of the world they got tried at Nurenberg

>we kill small and big game if it hurts our hedonistic level of comfort
>or if it carries maybe a 0.00000001% chance of mortality for the least worthy of us to keep on living
>or if we feel like it because fuck them, actually
>why cannot we reduce number of niggers this way?
Totally agree; we've zero problem keeping the numbers of everything BUT humans in check.

fuck off memeflaggot
thing is, if we consider niggers to be animals we could just stop helping them with shekels and food, and nature would correct their numbers on its own

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>if we consider niggers to be animals
Nice thought, but we wouldn't wipe them out back when we did. We denied them aid for centuries & they still managed to hang on. The aid & shit helps their numbers boom, yeah, but they're nowhere near industrialized enough to be that much of a problem on their own.

>they're nowhere near industrialized enough to be that much of a problem on their own
**IF left to themselves in Africa & not all over the goddamn place like they are. We still shit things up more than enough without them.

>they still managed to hang on
yeah, but not in numbers this big
and you have to start somewhere
if we deal with africa, then we could deal with Indian shitters, and then it would be world vs china in terms of environment protection

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>fuck off memeflaggot
>durrr memeflaggot deflection

lets face it, there are 40 million Poles, and only 8 million Swiss. The Swiss gave the world hundreds of scientists, technologists, science noble prize winners, etc. Poland made it possible for France to produce two times noble prize winner 100 years ago.

If your advocating for exterminations based on utility factor, wouldn't it be prudent to start with Europe and remove useless nations like Poland, Slovakia, Ukraine, Balkaniggers, etc. and populate said areas with objectively better people? Oh but that's too politically incorrect to say on Jow Forums, better compare yourself to subsaharan negros.

ayyyy so its Serbian clay speaking bullshit about things he dont have any interesting ideas to convey
you will get what is coming for you one day soon enough

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>then it would be world vs china in terms of environment protection
You're correct in everything up until here; you can't deal with China without dealing with Merica. Neither will voluntarily budge while they can use the other's shit as an excuse. China can't be forced while they have Russia as bffs, and I don't know that the rest of the world could take Merica at this point. Maybe.

but at least they cleared almost all our clay off germs and jews
they died so we could have our ethnostate again.
truly great people

>only right leaning environmentalists actually care about environment, but they are rare since they collide with big industry
true user. there are some right leaning env groups, but not many unfortunately

yea, best would be to just don't send niggers food

welp, there is also option that chinks would actually see that stable environment management is more profitable long term and would apply, just like they dropped gommunism in everything but name when they learned that capitalism is actually viable
thats because modern greens are reds that are not ripe yet

>science noble prize winners,
this jewish "worker of the year" award doesn't mean shit jew.

true user

Very interesting perspective.

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hey, at least they gave it to commie agent Bolek AKA Lech Wałęsa for being a patsy while commies gave away power to other commies

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The left-right division falls apart somewhat when talking about neoluddism/primitivism because it's so anti-government that those leanings are less relevant. That said, Ted has some choice words about lefty primitivists who push horseshit like the noble egalitarian savage. Also, environmentalism is only one facet of neo-luddism. Most eco-terrorists would be fine with industrial society if it could coexist with non-human ecology peacefully.

left leaning environmentalists basically worship earth as Gaia. It is a regression from the solar and Apollonian to the lunar. Why do you think all these groups are filled with women and cucks?
No a masculine appreciation and care for nature is of a completely different kind as it will embrace hierarchy and the transcendent. The feminine will always degrade into chaos and equality while worshiping nature as God.

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Chinks knowingly still eat food from their street vendors when "gutter oil" is a fucking known thing that exists in reality. A level of "no fucks to give" most can't really fathom.

>while worshiping nature as God
Nigger we fucking degrade a thing that PROVABLY EXISTS IN REALITY WHICH ENABLES OUR OWN EXISTENCE in favor of one that by all evidence we fucking made up, and consider this shit redpilled?

No, if you bother listen to them most of them are rad-fems, anti-natalist, anti-nationalist and anti-conservatism. Kaczynski was very much an outlier in that milieu.
Even conservative ecological vews are not necessarily acceptable because of the climate alarmist cult they've built up demands a particular set of liberal """solutions""".

He was caught because his brother ratted him out after recognizing the writing style. The only thing they could say about the unabomber before the tip was that he used sophisticated tactics and was highly intelligent. Also, that's not what comparative linguistics refers to, you dolt.

>climate alarmist
>conservative ecologists
u wot m8
climate change is normal and natural
manmade climate change is irrelevant jewish bullshit meant to tax you off it

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>our allies?
does that answer your question

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it was calligraphy that got him caught not linguistics. also ecological fascism and the biological bombing of Asia and Africa is the only solution for mankind

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Environmentalism stretches back in the US to Western Romanticism as well as Gilded Age politics. People felt a longing for nature in the industrial world and worked to protect it. At the same time, people despised Native Americans and many advocated for American Imperialism.

In Germany, environmentalism has had many revivals over the centuries, the most recent right-wing revival being in the Völkisch movement and pagan occultism. The Nazi party and high ranking Nazi officials were well involved in advocating for the natural.

American Republicans who despise the idea of environmentalism simply due to the fact that it's connected to left wingers are brain-washed buffoons. There's a reason why country folk tend to be more traditional.

A RETURN TO ROOTS: Nature, blood, and culture.

These things are inherently tied together.

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>manmade climate change is irrelevant jewish bullshit meant to tax you off it
"Climate change" is a fucking misnomer term meant to be a "normie-pill" encapsulating all the fucking things happening simultaneously which by logic represent "bad fucking things" down the road; usurped by who the fuck ever to gain shekels & other desired-to-them outcomes.
Just like the "warming" shit. That does NOT mean humanity is incapable of idiotically rendering the planet unlivable through fucking hubris alone. Only a fool believes otherwise.

>bullshit meant to tax you off it
While this is true, there is no question that our actions accelerate a normal process.
Yet, either way the change was bound to happen.

and yet, climate change cant be profitable if one prepares for it
longer vegetational period? yes please

>radical environmental activists
Global Warming alarmists are just using it as a tool to push communism. They don't actually believe/care about the environment.

Real environmentalists and animal-rights activists are often not even leftists. Their movement has just been co-opted by the left because it sounds noble.

Very true, but just as well (unfortunately) the countries which will get hit the hardest in regards to sea level rise (besides the Some islands especially around the Pacific) are Western countries and our coasts.
Luckily we might be able to pull a Netherlands on some of these rising waters, but for the most part it will not be likely or possible.

eh, burgerland have shitthousand of more or less inhabitable areas, and islanders will have to adapt
nevertheless making entire world do sacrifices for few seaside nations is bad since everybody have environmental problems of this or that variety

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Unscientifically-based but it strikes me as almost an autoimmune system response. We shit up the waters to such an ungodly degree the only real solution is a much larger volume of water & dilution.

don't be a commie asshole

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The worst thing is going to be how a larger volume of water affects the currents. Midatlantic current fails & things get really shitty in a relative hurry.

dont speak about environment you asshat, you are shit at managing it

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True, we will adapt due to the amount of land-mass but it will be a major hit. The State I live in at the moment (Florida) is extra susceptible to the sea-level rise because I cannot be protected. Our ground is made of limestone, and thus, even if we border the entire fucking State somehow, water would still seep through the ground and flood our State. So, the fact that an entire landmass like Florida and other such bodies of land are super-susceptible to flooding due to low-level flat land is alarming. But we have so much land to compensate that it shouldn't be a major problem.

Europe, however will have some major issues in the future too.

A larger surface area to pollute isn't a good thing, though, even if it disperses some of our waste.
A real solution is cutting our waste (thanks especially to consumerism and wrapping literally every piece of food and toy in plastic packaging), and developing new methods of cleaning waste in our environment.

Leftists CAN'T be true environmentalists anymore. They want more people consuming more shit that's not even produced in America with the environmental standards they cried for, they want cheap and polluting shit from China.
Trees before refugees.

The ELF have some excellent arsonists in their ranks.

Certainly not on its own, we'd need to stop being niggers also, which is highly unlikely. More likely we keep introducing microparticulates to the level where there'll be fucking plastic fish in a couple thousand years, if the planet's still at all habitable by then.

Conservation
Conservative
Conserve
Honor and respect what came before

Ted wasn't an environmentalist, nice try goy.

Very true.
There is no mass criticism of the waste necessary to significantly push back on it. Which is bizarre, because there's is so much funding and push for alternative energy... (((I wonder why))) but a complete lack of focus on other major self-made pollutants in our environment.

He was, actually.
Of course, his beliefs are more complex than simply the term "environmentalism", but his thoughts clearly incorporated the idea.

meanwhile, alternative energy becomes so stupid you wouldnt even believe
check this out
>>youtube.com/watch?v=itbwXMMkBQw

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The green party is not your friend.

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Fucking KEK
Is that honestly seen as a viable alternative to battery storage?

It's the shekels. It's always the fucking shekels.
If it can be made significantly from it it's pushed, if it costs to address it it's fucking buried.

>(((ecologists)))
I can only assume the term has a different meaning in polack.

no idea, but my weird leftard/ dude weed / anarchist / green friend sent me this
I bullied him for believing into this stupidity
how are you forests?
do you even have more than 3 trees on your godforsake island?

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>the only thing that "eats" co2
Trees aren't the only photosynthetic organisms.

ITS

FUCKING

TIME

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>everywhere should just be trees
This is almost as retarded as arguing for complete deforestation.

>parroting Evola

Hemp is better than trees.

>animal-rights
Thats an inherently leftist concept desu. Animals don't need """""rights"""" to be treated well

Our ancestors saw the toxic onslaught that industrialism would (and was) bring(ing). Many of our European ancestors tried to stop or cripple the "progress" but (((they))) won every time.
Unfortunate. But people like you and me can still do a lot to better our lives by reducing our dependence on consumerist garbage and minimizing (minimalism), avoiding excessively packaged foods, avoiding excessively processed foods, and ultimately and ideally moving outside of city centers and raising animals and/or crops in whatever small piece of land we can afford, etc. Even an amateur can do this with practice.
It's very expensive for me at the moment given that I was suckered into dumping money into schooling, and I have a lot coming up (including an imminent move) so I only grow some small snacks and herbs in pots in my cuckbox. But I make it a goal to act on the rest of my beliefs once I have everything settled.

That's valid. I was on the border of Germany and the Netherlands and the contrast was stark.

forest is ultimate climax ecosystem, all shrublands are just ecosystems without enough himidity and humus in soil to create stable forest
Pic related was German national park or something like that where german Greens pushed for leaving it alone
thats the result, Ips typographus fucked it all up, RIP spruces

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The duty of the right wing is to protect civilisation and its growth
The environmental policies must reflect that, if they hinder the growth for very little in return then they are wrong
Ecology faggots need to realise that humans are as much a part of environment as animals and plants, therefore we have the same rights. You don't deny a lion the right to kill a zebra, then why deny a man the right to kill a pig?

"Forests" aren't everything mate. I say that as someone with a heavy preference for them for career and personal reasons.

You're right though, ours are fucked.

>I thought they smelled bad on the outside

>but isn't their struggle too left-oriented?
>left-right spectrum
bitchute.com/video/eFLaKY5ePJxO/

>and its growth
Unironically, y tho?
Why MUST we "grow" ceaselessly?
It sounds exactly like the leftist "there must ALWAYS be progress" bullshit.
Part of being part of everything else is realizing there is a fucking balance, and that WE SHOULD NOT BE IMMUNE TO THE CULL.

florida can't sink into the ocean fast enough, frankly

closed canopy forest is the climax of ecological succession but to assume it is or ought to be a perpetual and universal state is a bit absurd.

Lmfao.
Most Floridian nut jobs will have to go elsewhere by then, though. You should just be glad this state is a containment zone for now.

they arent everything, but they are most important after oceans imho
also, they are universal, but not perpetual

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>Unironically, y tho?
>Why MUST we "grow" ceaselessly?
because muh progress
I am all for progress if it is balanced with resources and environmental protection
eating all resources and shitting more and more useless consumerist shit is stupid and big gay

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Algae produces more o2 than all the trees plants and fauna on dryland

thats cool, and india produces more plastic pollution than all other nations
should we wait until they poo the oceans?

>n fact, there is grave danger that the GA Movement may take the same route as Christianity. Originally, under the personal leadership of Jesus Christ, Christianity was not only a religious movement but also a movement toward social revolution. As a purely religious movement Christianity turned out to be successful, but as a revolutionary movement it was a complete failure. It did nothing to correct the social inequalities of its time, and as soon as the Christians had an opportunity to make a deal with the emperor Constantine they sold out and became part of the power-structure of the Roman Empire.

>There appear to be some disquieting resemblances between the psychology of the GA Movement and that of early Christianity. The analogies between the two movements are striking: primitive utopia = Garden of Eden; development of civilization = the Fall, original sin, eating the apple from the Tree of Knowledge; the Revolution = Day of Judgment; return to primitive utopia = arrival of the Kingdom God. Veganism probably plays the same psychological role as the dietary restrictions of Christianity (fasting during Lent) and of other religions. The risks taken by activists in using their bodies to block logging machinery and so forth can be compared to the martyrdom of early Christians who died for their beliefs (except that the Christians’ martyrdom required far more courage than the tactics of today’s activists do). If the GA Movement takes the same path as Christianity, it too will be a complete failure as a revolutionary movement.

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-letter-to-a-turkish-anarchist

youtube.com/watch?v=QAGxy85R380

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>The GA Movement may be not only useless, but worse than useless, because it may be an obstacle to the development of an effective revolutionary movement. Since opposition to technology and civilization is an important part of the GA Movements program, young people who are concerned about what technological civilization is doing to the world are drawn into that movement. Certainly not all of these young people are leftists or soft, dreamy, ineffectual types; some of them have potential to become real revolutionaries. But in the GA Movement they are outnumbered by leftists and other useless people, so they are neutralized, they become corrupted, and their revolutionary potential is wasted. In this sense, the GA Movement could be called a destroyer of potential revolutionaries.

>It will be necessary to build a new revolutionary movement that will keep itself strictly separate from the GA Movement and its soft, civilized values. I don’t mean that there is anything wrong with gender equality, kindness to animals, tolerance of homosexuality, or the like. But these values have no relevance to the effort to eliminate technological civilization. They are not revolutionary values. An effective revolutionary movement will have to adopt instead the hard values of primitive societies, such as skill, self-discipline, honesty, physical and mental stamina, intolerance of externally-imposed restraints, capacity to endure physical pain, and, above all, courage.

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Eco Gang

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>but they are rare since they collide with big industry
yeah, makes sense that they are rare considering you literally have to contradict yourself to be a rightwing environmentalist